Re: [Jmol-users] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space in APPLET

2007-06-29 Thread Raphael A. Bauer
Bob Hanson wrote:
 it's a general problem with browsers. But I assure you, we have not 
 generally seen this problem with the Jmol applet. Plenty of people use 
 large proteins with it. So either your protein is REALLY huge, or 
 something else is odd about your installation. It could be, for 
 instance, that you have some other page still present in the browser 
 that is eating up huge portions of Java memory. One thing that will help 
 a lot is if you limit the applet window size. Those pixels cost memory. 
 Also, if you don't use translucency you save 50% on Java memory, because 
 in that case Jmol won't use a second buffer.
okay. so the problem is that each applet running shares the very same vm 
and therefore the very same memory with a maximum limit.
so the only thing i can do actually as developer is to give visitors a 
hint about this check that there are not too many browser windows open 
with applets running inside or increase the memory by clicking there and 
adding ... . or something like that.
ugly one way or the other, but not a jmol problem...
thanks for the explanation bob,
raphael

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users


Re: [Jmol-users] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space in APPLET

2007-06-28 Thread Raphael A. Bauer
Bob Hanson wrote:
 2:1 you have a Mac. In any case, you need to find the control panel for 
 Java and increase the allowed memory. Others on the list can help you 
...
unix like os was right - but i am running plain old linux here.

apart from that - what you are saying means that if somebody wants to
see a protein on my webpage - assuming the protein is too big for his
vm - won't see anything. jmol simply and silently crashes (apart from a
tiny error message in the java error log that no java experienced user
ever will see?).

is there any standard way round the problem? ok i could provide a small
tutorial explaining how to increase the xmx and maybe xms (if you have
windows click here and add -xmx1000m, if you have...) - but that seems
to be not the best way...

any ideas here?
thanks!

raphael

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users


Re: [Jmol-users] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space in APPLET

2007-06-28 Thread Bob Hanson
it's a general problem with browsers. But I assure you, we have not 
generally seen this problem with the Jmol applet. Plenty of people use 
large proteins with it. So either your protein is REALLY huge, or 
something else is odd about your installation. It could be, for 
instance, that you have some other page still present in the browser 
that is eating up huge portions of Java memory. One thing that will help 
a lot is if you limit the applet window size. Those pixels cost memory. 
Also, if you don't use translucency you save 50% on Java memory, because 
in that case Jmol won't use a second buffer.

Bob


Raphael A. Bauer wrote:

Bob Hanson wrote:
  

2:1 you have a Mac. In any case, you need to find the control panel for 
Java and increase the allowed memory. Others on the list can help you 


...
unix like os was right - but i am running plain old linux here.

apart from that - what you are saying means that if somebody wants to
see a protein on my webpage - assuming the protein is too big for his
vm - won't see anything. jmol simply and silently crashes (apart from a
tiny error message in the java error log that no java experienced user
ever will see?).

is there any standard way round the problem? ok i could provide a small
tutorial explaining how to increase the xmx and maybe xms (if you have
windows click here and add -xmx1000m, if you have...) - but that seems
to be not the best way...

any ideas here?
thanks!

raphael

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
  



-- 
Robert M. Hanson
Professor of Chemistry
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr


If nature does not answer first what we want,
it is better to take what answer we get. 

-- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900



-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users


Re: [Jmol-users] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space in APPLET

2007-06-27 Thread Raphael A. Bauer
Raphael A. Bauer wrote:
 hi jmol list,
 
 i am constantly getting out of memory errors when i am trying to load a
 random sequence of (relatively large) protein files.
...
I forgot to mention that this problem occurs in applet mode.
ra

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users


Re: [Jmol-users] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space in APPLET

2007-06-27 Thread Bob Hanson
2:1 you have a Mac. In any case, you need to find the control panel for 
Java and increase the allowed memory. Others on the list can help you 
figure out how to do that if you don't know how.

Raphael A. Bauer wrote:

Raphael A. Bauer wrote:
  

hi jmol list,

i am constantly getting out of memory errors when i am trying to load a
random sequence of (relatively large) protein files.


...
I forgot to mention that this problem occurs in applet mode.
ra

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
  



-- 
Robert M. Hanson
Professor of Chemistry
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr


If nature does not answer first what we want,
it is better to take what answer we get. 

-- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900



-
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
___
Jmol-users mailing list
Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users