[JOYnet] my comments on biji's mail
Hi Joynetters, Firstly let us put things in perspective... What we have in Church are "Statues " not "idols". I totally agree with biji about the various idols in our life like our pride, jobs, money etc.. but they are inbuilt and take some help from the master to break... Are they not enuf that we want to add more... We think that we r hurting people by refusing the prasad... When we do accept it.We r only hurting our selves and our relationship with God , and we r also making them a reason for us to sin against first commandment.Thus putting them in sin.. we have to decide what to do...go against god ,or go against my friend.. A friend neednt be good to u all the time..he is one who does what is good for u at all times.. Let us strive to be Good Friends to our friends..and god will bless us and them also.. Trust him with the relationship part..he will help them understand... Love and Prayers Ravi biji james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Friends, First of all I won't encourage eating the foods offerred to idols like prasad or whatever else. I am not justifying my stand.But what if you are in a situation where there is no go to refuse the affection and interest with which our friend or colleague is offering the sweets. What are the idols first of all? We are very particular about the hand made idols which we see everywhere around us. We are living in a country which is almost surrounded with lots of idols i.e. in homes and temples and we are living in midst of them. Even our church is not an exception where lot of idols are placed. We do have lot of idol worshippers in our Catholic church itself and lot of feasts which encourage the people to perform the worship of idols. Like St.Sebastian's feast where people take the "amb" (the bow if I am correct) from house to house and finally the procession of the idol with people indulging in alcoholism, eating lots of non-veg food,bursting of crackers, etc. What is our stand on this? I do understand that the idols are a symbol and representation of saints,Jesus,Mother Mary etc. Our church goers forget that our God is a living God who is interested in becoming the Lord of their hearts and lives and not in the external observances as written in Isaiah. What are we doing about this?Tell to stop this to our own Catholic friends with due explanation and they will be the first people to hit back us. There are lot of other idols in our lives which takes priority over Jesus as Lord like our immediate priorities and concerns, our pride, our career,our family,our job, etc. and this list goes on. Is this not idol worship?What is our collective stand? Your's in Christ Jesus, Biji James, Bangalore Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Re. trinity (ente mail no:14)
Gr8! Jos, I told u all that this guy can get really contagious! hahaha thanx jos this is a good one! love ya tons, josun/new delhi/india - Original Message - From: jose mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: [JOYnet] Re. trinity (ente mail no:14) > Dear friends let us first of all thank cc for the > heavy input he gives, so go c.c. go... > > well i thought of sharing some thing silly... hop c.c > u will forgive me. > > mom asked little Johny to make the sign of the cross. > so Johnny started... in the name of the father and of > the son and of the mummy amen... > mom corrected johnny saying Johnny it is not in the > name of the mummy but that the of the holy spirit > amen. > Johhy said: i know the father(dad) i know the son(that > is me) and i never knew you wanted to be called > spirit!! > > > > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe to this mailing list, visit > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] My Main Switch turns 57!
Dear e-family, Yesterday 17th January was the birthday of one of the greatest souls I owe my existence to. My daddin turned 57.! (i used to call him main switch! that was before i became a JY) We started our celebration at 1am yesterday. We had a beautiful prayer session, each one thanked God for our loving daddin. After that we made daddin kneel down and we laid hands on him and prayed (there was a small scuffle between my last two brothers! They wanted to lay their hands on the same part of daddins head!!!) My mummy said a beautiful prayer for the man with whom she's shared 23 years together and 6 strong, healthy and wonderful children! (those were her words ok). She thanked God for all the years she and daddin spent together, all the struggles and all the joys that came along the way. She thanked God for daddins parents for bringing up such a wonderful man (for her)..it was truly a beautiful time. After the praying over, we put daddin in the middle and started throwing positive strokes at him. (Jesus youth Style!) Each one of the seven of us said positives that we had seen in our daddin...there again mummy topped the list! She saw the most positives in daddin. Daddin cut the cake and gave a piece to mummy, and smeared some icing on her face.as if that was a signal for us, each one assaulted the cake (we never cared to cut in in geometrical shapes!) and started slinging icing on each others faces!! Very little of the cake went into our mouths! Becoz of my height everyone had a hard time smearing on my face. I smeared on everybodys face..i was the only one who came out with the least icing on my face. Haha (this is one of the zillion advantages of being tall!) On completion of that episode each one brought the gifts they got for daddin, I bought him a book, my mummy also bought him a beautiful book (chicken soup for the fathers soul) my brothers bought him a few handkerchiefs, and sisters got him a shirt. My parents embraced, and as they were swaying in each others arms they kept saying to each other, "Thangam you are Gods gift to me" and my mom would reciprocate "Thangam you too are Gods precious gift to me "(My parents call each other thangam, thangam. I was told it means gold or something) there were tears of joy in both their eyes, after their cuddling session which lasted for about 5-10 minutes, each one of us got a bear hug from daddin...he nearly crushed my ribs! Remember all this is occurring after 1am in the morning, daddin then said a thank you to each one of us. We had a wonderful time joking, remembering our sweet memories of the past, we asked daddin and mummy all sorts of weird questions that I feel embarrassed writing here. (if I ask those questions to any other lady, im surely in for shoes and slippers on my face!! no doubt about it!) I asked them how they met? I asked daddin what was it in mummy that swept him off his feet that finally he married her (to which he replied I had better mind my own business!!). Still undaunted I asked daddin whether any of the 6 of us was an accident! (see, I can become very uncivilized at times!) to that he said something very profound! He said, "NO, none of you was an accident, thangam and me have have always felt that all six of you are our greatest wealth and investment!!" (Wow daddin & mummy! Bravo! I promise your wealth will grow beyond your wildest imaginations!) They told us they have been practicing NFP from the time of their marriage (I swear I never knew that!, I thought NFP was having 1-2 children the natural way), "we have never used any or artificial methods or contraceptives (Augustine my youngest bro. Interrupted "what are contraceptives??" Akku is only in the 3rd standard) from the time of our marriage" they said. It was a frank and a very meaningful time we had together. I'll never forget it. None of us wanted to sleep. We went on talking, pulling each others legs, then my mom and dad both told us, "we are praying for a vocation from our family, I hope at least one of you will take up priestly or religious life as your vocation.." No comments on that:) Like that it went on till about 3:00 am. After that we decided to go to sleep. I set the alarm clock at 6:00 am coz I had to get ready and go to office. I was awakened by the shrill noise of the alarm clock that started blaring. I got up from bed and hit the snooze button and was about to go to sleep again, that's when the noise of free praise caught my ears.I got up and slowly went to the room where my parents sleep..there on the bed sitting beside each other were my parents holding hands and saying their morning prayer together.. Special thanks goes to my sister Betty for planning this time of love together as a family. Bets has really revamped and revolutionized our family bond after she became a fulltimer. God bless her abundantly for it:) I have no reason to boast, or impersonate an I-am-better-off-than-thou attitude. No, our family is off track and derails more than 9
[JOYnet] Re. trinity (ente mail no:14)
Dear friends let us first of all thank cc for the heavy input he gives, so go c.c. go... well i thought of sharing some thing silly... hop c.c u will forgive me. mom asked little Johny to make the sign of the cross. so Johnny started... in the name of the father and of the son and of the mummy amen... mom corrected johnny saying Johnny it is not in the name of the mummy but that the of the holy spirit amen. Johhy said: i know the father(dad) i know the son(that is me) and i never knew you wanted to be called spirit!! This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Please Share your views!!
Dear Friends, First of all I won't encourage eating the foods offerred to idols like prasad or whatever else. I am not justifying my stand.But what if you are in a situation where there is no go to refuse the affection and interest with which our friend or colleague is offering the sweets. What are the idols first of all? We are very particular about the hand made idols which we see everywhere around us. We are living in a country which is almost surrounded with lots of idols i.e. in homes and temples and we are living in midst of them. Even our church is not an exception where lot of idols are placed. We do have lot of idol worshippers in our Catholic church itself and lot of feasts which encourage the people to perform the worship of idols. Like St.Sebastian's feast where people take the "amb" (the bow if I am correct) from house to house and finally the procession of the idol with people indulging in alcoholism, eating lots of non-veg food,bursting of crackers, etc. What is our stand on this? I do understand that the idols are a symbol and representation of saints,Jesus,Mother Mary etc. Our church goers forget that our God is a living God who is interested in becoming the Lord of their hearts and lives and not in the external observances as written in Isaiah. What are we doing about this?Tell to stop this to our own Catholic friends with due explanation and they will be the first people to hit back us. There are lot of other idols in our lives which takes priority over Jesus as Lord like our immediate priorities and concerns, our pride, our career,our family,our job, etc. and this list goes on. Is this not idol worship?What is our collective stand? Your's in Christ Jesus, Biji James, Bangalore Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Birthday Notification !!!
Hi Friends These are the birthday babies of the day (January 18). Francis Rudolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shobith Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shobith Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> xavier thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joji mon Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> randolf cotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sona p jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shobith Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JOY THOMAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shobith Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wishing you a very happy birthday God Bless With Love The JOYnet Family This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] please pray for Dr.Dally James
Hello Family, Please pray for Dr.Dally James,our Chackochen Njavalli's wife and my best friend.They're expecting their twins in february.Last time she had a caesarian section.Pray for a safe confinement.They've two more kids,Kochuthresia going to KG and Geovanni who'll turn 2 years this may. Thanks, Sindhai. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] workings of the Holy Trinity
Dear Shobith, It is wonderful to see the ways in which the Lord is guiding you in each and every small and big things in life. I had an incident today. I had just come down from Mumbai yesterday and needed money to keep the rest of the month going since this month our expenditure was high. I was finding it difficult even to borrow some money, even from daddy since already he has given so much. Even filling petrol in our car seemed difficult. But today when I went to office, I was handed over a cheque for Rs3900/- which I had claimed a month ago. It got cleared from medical insurance at the time when we needed most.Yes Jehovah, Jireh, our provider-let His Name be praised. Our wedding anniversary was on the 15th and I was not sure whether we will be able to celebrate it together (since Annie was in Mumbai and it seemed that my leave could not be extended and I may have to return to Cochin). But the Lord took care of all that. We could go for Holy Mass together. Praise God. I could also narrate another incident where the Lord took care of us two weeks before. Annie was getting out of our car and I carelessly took the vehicle forward as the block in front cleared. The rear wheel almost drove through the ankle of her feet. But the Lord helped me take reverse immediately. Her leg would have fractured, but Jesus saved us. There was only a slight scar and her shoes got twisted temporarly. Praise God. Annie John and Isaac will be in Kalyan till 3rd March. Mumbai joynetters can contact her at her mummy's place at 95251-323827 or mail to her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] love and regards John Wilfred Cochin This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Trinity-5
Dear friends,
I hope that by now you have gone through my last mail on Trinity and have
spent time dwelling on the truths mentioned there.
In this mail I will point out the various things mentioned about the Trinity
in the Scriptures and the CCC. I cannot give a detailed teaching as it will
take me pages to write, so what I will do is just point out some facts and its
up to each one to go through and meditate upon them, if you have questions I
shall be happy to answer them. (Please read the whole mail)
I would like to mention again that we must understand the fact that God
cannot be restricted to time and space he is above them.
1) In the Bible if we read Gen 1:26 " then God said, 'let US make
humankind..."(RSV): what I want to point out is the word US, its plural not
singular how come, I believe it has to be the Trinity. {shows that there are
more than one person in the Trinity}
2) CCC 233 "Christians are Baptized IN THE NAME of the Father and of the
Son and the Holy Spirit; NOT IN THEIR NAMES..." A very important observation
{shows that the Trinity is one}
3) CCC 253 : "The Trinity is ONE. We do not confess three gods, but one
God in three persons... The father is that which the Son is, the Son that
which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is,
i.e. by nature one God..
4) CCC 254 : "The divine persons are really distinct from one another...
He is not the Father who is the Son, nor the Son he who is the Father, nor is
the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son..
5) CCC 255 : " the divine persons are relative to one another...
Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the
HloySpirit ; the Son wholly in the Father and wholly in the HolySpirit ; the
HolySpirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son."
6) CCC 258 : ".. one God and Father FROM whom all things are, and one
Lord Jesus Christ THROUGH whom all things are, and one Holy Spirit IN whom all
things are."
So We believe in one God but three persons. In other words one NATURE but
three PERSONS.
Its as someone pointed out earlier, the example regarding, water, ice and
water vapour. By nature they are H2O but they are distinct from each other, is
water H2O? yes, is ice H2O? yes, is water vapour H2O? yes, are they same no..
Or if you have three candles lit in a room, how many light we have? We only
have one light but how many candles...
Or if we look at the usual fan in our houses, how many leafs do they have
three, but how many fans one. The fan is incomplete with out the three leafs,
the three together make one fan.
Its something like this also; Father is like honey in the flower, Jesus is
like the honey in the honey comb and Holy Spirit is like honey in the mouth.
(as I use these earthly examples I am well aware that these finite things are
not enough to compare to the infinite )
Everything originates from the Father, is brought to completion & actualised
by the Son, and reaches man, is present to and experienced by means of the
HolySpirit
The Four Statements about Trinity:
i) There is one divine nature and three persons
ii) No one is either of the other
iii) Father is God, Son is God, HolySpirit is God
iv) There is not three but one God
Please take time to dwell on these things if you are interested in Trinity
and I am sure that God who does not set any limits of us knowing him will
guide you in this journey.
Love and Prayers,
C.C.Joseph
May God Bless You
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[JOYnet] Rex Band Release
Dear Friends, I would like to inform you a happy news , our Rex Band video Album is released yesturday at 6.30 pm at Eranakulam Bishops house. Cassette was relesed by media commission chaiman Bishop Thomas Chakiath. So now we are looking for agents in kerala , out of kerala and out of country.So please mail me those who are interested to co operate with this project. We are planning to start some more projects soon. We need your prayers and support. If anybody wants vcd or video cassette pls contact Please send DD in favour of C M N, Kochi. VCD 300 (postal charges inside India 35/-) Video cassette 250/- (Postal charges 35-)/ Christian Media Network P.B. No.3537 Cochin 35 Kerala India For Further contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Jesus Leo Thaddeus Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] STORY OF UR LIFE
--THE STORY OF YOUR LIFE... Don't say you're not important, It simply isn't true, The fact that you were born, Is proof God has a plan for you. The path may seem unclear right now, But one day you will see That all that came before, Was truly meant to be. God wrote the book that is your life, That's all you need to know. Each day that you are living, Was written long ago. God only writes best sellers, So be proud of who you are. Your character is important, In this book you are the "Star". Enjoy the novel as it reads, It will stand throughout the ages. Savor each chapter as you go, Taking time to turn the pages. By Wanda Mitchell B JASONV This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Parable Net
Hello Friends, Are you a member of the Parable Net?? ---What is Parable Net?? This is a mailing list which is a part of our JOYnet ministry. The idea of having two separate mailing list is to allow people to choose. So, those who have problem in receiving "many mails" can select. If you want to join both, you are welcome!!! What you get from Parable Net?? Bible study materials, Inspirational mails, "Our daily Bread", In-touch materials etc..etc... -How do you know, if you are already a member?? If you are a member of Parable net, then you will be getting mails with subject starting with " [ParableNet] ". This way you can confirm whether you are already a member. How do you subscribe, un-subscribe to this mailing list?? To subscribe to Parable net, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need still more details, feel free to mail me. Mathew Joseph Bangalore, India. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Accepting food....
Hi Friends, I would like to share my views on accepting food offered to Gods in other religions. I feel that there is nothing wrong in accepting food offered to other Gods(???). I believe that all religions lead to God. This is in accordance to the teaching of the Catholic Church (ref. 12 std cathechism textbooks published by POC, Kerala). We are not gaining anything by refusing food offered to other Gods... The only advantage is that we can show others that we are different. Many evangelical groups encourage this, ie, to show that we are different... in varying degrees... And there lies the problem. Everyone whants to show that he is different from others... or he is superior to others... See how man tries to separate God's creations... Just imagine the condition if a person of one religion refuses the food made by a person of another religion.(When hindu's make sadya's, they first offer the food to their Gods before serving). The result will be religious fundamentalism. (which ofcourse is very common nowadays...). If I refuse the food offered by my friend saying that it has been offered to HIS God, then he has every RIGHT to refuse the food my mother cooks in our home (because she says a prayer of offering before cooking). This can be extended to my friend not entering my house(because we pray in the living room and according to him, it is a place of worship of another God...:-) Who gains from this??? Definitely not God It is the people who propagate such ideas who are finally going to gain from this... Because religious fundamentism(in all religions) have always attracted supporters... and money... It is exactly this kind of fundamentalism that has caused man to raise his sword against his brother... all in the name of religion. Few years back, when I stayed in a hostel, the butcher who used to supply meat was a Muslim. He used to pray before killing the goat. They call it halal. If the Christians in the hostel were to refuse the meat because it was offered to his God, the butcher would of course go out of business:-) Well... if my spirituality is something that gets affected by eating some sweets offered by my Hindu friend, then I dont think it is worth keeping:-)) There are many evangelists(both Catholic and Protestants) who propagate such fringe ideas... and brand those who dont follow them as sinners.. During a retreat, I have heard a Catholic evangelist preach that it is wrong to sing Indian Classical Songs.. and the reason she gave was that those songs contained the names of Hindu Gods...:-) According to my understanding of Hinduism, Hindu's cannot be called idol-worshippers. (On consecrating the idol, the Hindu priest(tantri) invokes the spirit of God into the idol.) They donot worship the idol, they worship the spirit of God that is in it. Just like how we catholics donot worship the idols on our altars, but the spirit of God in it. If we judge Hindu's as idol-worshippers, I can emphatically say that Catholics are also idol-worshippers... if judged by the same standards. Please do let me know if I am wrong on any of the facts stated. Love and Prayers Saju Mathew Alex Bangalore, India This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] A Prayer request
Dear Friends, Please pray for a couple, who got married a year ago. it was a mixed marriage (Hindu & Christian). unfortunately they started server quarrelling & fighting. whoever may read this prayer request, say at lest one hail mary. thanks, JMJ Joji joseph This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] How blessed we are
Dear JY Pals Today I was given one of the best news this year. Being a Member of Online Prayer Ministries, I was told that 4 eprayer sites were going to close down because of the software bubble burst. Many of us were feeling really dejected because simultaneously we were told that people were not willing to fund Religious and Prayer Sites as it seems for a lost cause. They would rather fund Porn Sites cause it guaranteed them safe returns. These Prayer sites were unable to renew even for a single month. Then by God;s grace all of a sudden donations poured in. It seems that each eprayer site had benefitted many patrons in the past and many had their prayers answered. Today all those sites are afloat helping and carrying out prayer petitions for all those desiring the love of christ. One of the main sites forwarded me this : We were able to even send assistance to several desperate families during this past month. a. Helen who lost her job and had hardly any money to provide food for her family; b. Wanda who ran out of food. Both her husband and herself lost their jobs; c. Peg who needed just a little bit of help to provide for groceries; d. Carol who has problems making ends meet. We were able to provide some Christmas gifts for her family. Here is what she wrote concerning the gift: "Thank you so much for the Walmart Gift Certificate. We got it yesterday, and I already bought Matthew two shirts and two pairs of pants for his presents. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you." e. Ross who needed a rolator in order to be able to walk again. A subscriber donated the money through us to be used for the purpose of this purchase. Here is a thank you note from his wife Rev. Sandy: "The money came this evening. So everything will be fine. Ross is moving so much better with the rolator and we are praising God. I really think that it will help him to become stronger because he is able to move around better. He has a little trouble mastering the steps with it but I am sure that he will get it all down with use and practice. I wish that you could be hear to see him. The difference is like night and day. This is one praise report that only being here could do it justice. This is truly wonderful. Thank God and you and all the prayer partners. So my dear Pals in Christ. lets work towards a worthy cause. Today we can certainly help this world out. If not monetary wise, certainly prayers would do. Our Lord seeks our prayers to help others. B JASONV This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] GREETINGS FROM KANJIRAPALLY
Dear Friends in Jesus Christ, You people may forget me, as usual again for a short period I was away from our Joynet family because of some technical reasons. Here I am expressing my sorry to you. Then here every thing is going fine. There was a retreat at Kuttikkanam exclusively for Engineering students. About 20 peoples from my college (Amal Jyothi College of Engineering) was attended the retreat, all of them are touched with our Lords love. They are planning to start prayer meeting tomorrow (Friday - 18th Jan, 2002) kindly pray for them and for our College. With lot of love and prayer Vinish Scaria This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] the food 'gone bad'
No matter how well food is covered or how cold the refrigerator/freezer is kept, food still stinks once it has "gone bad"! This got me to thinking... Our character defects, our sinful habits, are kind of similar. You can cover them with wrap, put them in a dish with a tight cover, shove them out of sight WAY to the back, but... they still stink! Why does food go bad? It is when foods nutrients are contaminated by bacteria and then start to be consumed by that same bacteria. In other words, the food has outlived its usefulness and becomes corrupted. Preservatives only postpone the inevitable. But once it starts to "go bad" its rotten! Our character defect, may seem useful or fun for a while. It may appear to protect us from hurt, fill us up for a time, prevent us from feeling our hunger or from experiencing our empty reality. But eventually, the defect outlives its usefulness and sin begins to grow. It grows until it becomes unmanageable, glaring, obvious, harmful, and unmanageable. Preservatives? I know of a few "preservatives" that one may use (excuses, denials, rationalizations... but these "preservatives" only work for so long before the vile stinkin truth is really discovered. No one can ignore the decomposition of what may once have been quite palatable. Whats rotten is rotten for all to see. So the real question you and I are left with is really quite simple: what are we keeping hidden and under wraps that we dont want known or seen? Yea, it might be quite nasty to clean it out, but remember, eventually the rotten stuff in the hidden corner of hearts always finds a way to make its stinkin presence known. Do we want to throw it out and let God cleanse and renew us, or do we want to wait until it makes us, and those around us, really sick? Dont blame God when you are tempted! God cannot be tempted by evil, and he doesnt use evil to tempt others. We are tempted by our own desires that drag us off and trap us. Our desires make us sin, and when sin is finished with us, it leaves us dead. (James 1:13-15 CEV) www.heartlight.com Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] A Miracle for just 1 dollar & 11 cents
Hi All! The article below is a real-life story which is sure to move your heart. Regards, Rose. Tess was a precocious eight year old when she heard her Mom and Dad talking about her little brother, Andrew. All she knew was that he was very sick and they were completely out of money. They were moving to an apartment complex next month because Daddy didn't have the money for the doctor's bills and our house. Only a very costly surgery could save him now and it was looking like there was no-one to loan them the money. She heard Daddy say to her tearful Mother with whispered desperation, "Only a miracle can save him now." Tess went to her bedroom and pulled a glass jelly jar from its hiding place in the closet. She poured all the change out on the floor and counted it carefully. Three times, even. The total had to be exactly perfect. No chance here for mistakes. Carefully placing the coins back in the jar and twisting on the cap, she slipped out the back door and made her way 6 blocks to Rexall's Drug Store with the big red Indian Chief sign above the door. She waited patiently for the pharmacist to give her some attention but he was too busy at this moment. Tess twisted her feet to make a scuffing noise. Nothing. She cleared her throat with the most disgusting sound she could muster. No good. Finally she took a quarter from her jar and banged it on the glass counter. That did it! "And what do you want?" the pharmacist asked in an annoyed tone of voice. "I'm talking to my brother from Chicago whom I haven't seen in ages", he said without waiting for a reply to his question. "Well, I want to talk to you about my brother," Tess answered back in the same annoyed tone. "He's really, really sick... and I want to buy a miracle." "I beg your pardon?" said the pharmacist. "His name is Andrew and he has something bad growing inside his head and my Daddy says only a miracle can save him now. So how much does a miracle cost?" "We don't sell miracles here, little girl. I'm sorry but I can't help you," the pharmacist said, softening a little. "Listen, I have the money to pay for it. If it isn't enough, I will get the rest. Just tell me how much it costs". The pharmacist's brother was a well dressed man. He stooped down and asked the little girl, "What kind of a miracle does your brother need?" "I don't know," Tess replied with her eyes welling up. "I just know he's really sick and Mommy says he needs an operation. But my Daddy can't pay for it, so I want to use my money". "How much do you have?" asked the man from Chicago. "One dollar and eleven cents," Tess answered barely audibly. "And it's all the money I have, but I can get some more if I need to. "Well, what a coincidence," smiled the man. "A dollar and eleven cents-the exact price of a miracle for little brothers." He took her money in one hand and with the other hand he grasped her mitten and said "Take me to where you live. I want to see your brother and meet your parents. Let's see if I have the kind of miracle you need." That well dressed man was Dr. Carlton Armstrong, a surgeon, specializing in neuro-surgery. The operation was completed without charge and it wasn't long until Andrew was home again and doing well. Mom and Dad were happily talking about the chain of events that had led them to this place. "That surgery," her Mom whispered. "was a real miracle. I wonder how much it would have cost?" Tess smiled. She knew exactly how much a miracle cost. one dollar and eleven cents . plus the faith of a little child. A miracle is not the suspension of natural law, but the operation of a higher law.. (A TRUE STORY) Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Please Share your views!!
Hi Friends, I would like to share my views on this topic of accepting foods from the idols. Before even I use to think that there is no problem in accepting the food offered to idols simply because I din't have the nerve to tell my colleagues in the office and friends and I felt I would hurt them if I didn't accept but evrytime I did this my conscience would prick me and I would justify the act by saying a prayer of Blessing or as Biji mentioned invoke the precious Blood of Jesus. However, in my mind I always knew that I was a coward and was pleasing my friends but displeasing God but since I could justify my act I could cover up. Off late I had been to Potta (Divine Retreat Centre) for a REtreat and there Fr. Matthew pointed out that receiving the food offered to idols is wrong and not only wrong it's a sin against the first commandment of God. Well there and there I made a decision to give up this sinful act. The Word of God speaks about this at lenght. You can refer 1Corinthians 8, wherein St. Paul says in the first half that those who have a sound knowledge that there is only God and that the idols are not gods at all then he can eat the food offered to the idols since but then in the 2nd half he pointedly says that if our act induces the other beleiver who is not so strong in his faith or who doens't have enough knowledge of his faith then we would be responsible for the fall of that person. Again in 1 Corinthians 10 : 20 - 33, St. Paul says that when you are invited by a unbeliever for a meal, we are to eat what is set before us but if the persion says that the food was offered to idols, then it is better not to eat if for the sake of the person and our conscience sake. Again in the verse 33, St. Paul says that I am not trying to do what is good for me but what is good for most of the people so they can be saved. Now this is a question to us., is my act of taking the prasad which my friend said is offered to idols do good to that friend of minewell yes that frind of mine will be pleased because he/she doesn't know the truth and though we know we haven't shared that to that friend so am I saving that soul or by my act I am agreeing with my friend that it is ok to pray to idols. what I feel is that God gives us an opportunity to evangelise in mall things but then we are so scared and we feel we are going to hurt the person that we decide to overlook the consequences of our action and commit an act which is very wrong in the eyes of God. Intead of evangelising and taking up the opportunity we ourselves fall prey. God has set apart a mission for each Christian to spread His good news to all but agin this is a question Are we actually Witnessing Him? Idol worship is not a part of Indian culture, it's a part of Indian worship. We can remind ourselves here what happened to the Isrealites when they accepted the worship of the idols. It began in a small way and then we know what happened. Again in 1Corinthians 10:14 - 22, St. Paul puts in very strongly and directly that we are not suppose to eat the food offered to idols. I agree what George said that whatever we eat is not going to make me impure but what comes from my heart i what makes me impure. The intention with what I am receiving the food offered to idols will make me impure (I hope what i said made any sense). In this chapter, St. Paul is very convinced when He says in verse 21 - 22: "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons also. You cannot share in the Lord's table and the table of the demons? Are we trying to make the Lord jealous? We are not stronger than He is, are we?". By accepting the food offered to idols we directly disobey the first commandment : Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul. Again we are suppose to witness Christ in every situation of our lives but if we reflect on Christ's life, we can see that He never compromised. Accepting the food offered to idols merely on the context of respecting the culture and tradition of the Hindus is what I feel is a compromise since we are a minority. Again I am not against respecting the culture and tradition of our country however what I feel is and correct me if I am wrong, idol worship is directly related to the Hindu Religion and is not a part of Indian culture. I think we need to differentiate between Religion and Culture. I really appreciate Josun's response in this particular situation and I feel that he proved to be a witness of Christ and that is what we as Christians suppose to be doing. We have to witness Christ not by compromising but by standing strong by our faith. Love & Prayers Jennifer - Original Message - From: "biji james" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [JOYnet] Please Share your views!! > Dear Friends, > > What I do if I am in a situation like this is that I > take the prasa
[JOYnet] FREEDOM & VICTORY
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