Re: [JOYnet] Pray for Priests
Friends, We should listen to the call of eddy sir. He did it in the right time. Always in time... That's Holy Spirit, its HIS nature. We must pray for priests. with lots of lov prayers smiju joseph, abu dhabi From: Edward A. Edezhath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JOYnet] Pray for Priests Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 03:37:01 +0530 Hello Joynet Friends, I am from Cochin, Kerala, India. These days I am mostly at my parents' house in the village, Kumbalanghi. The evenings are quite relaxed, with a long dip in the pond and sometimes a walk near the river side. At about 9pm I spend quite some time in intercession. I pray for Jesus Youth all over, especially those with responsibilities in it and those who have asked for prayer. I remember Joynetters and many faces in it and it goes on, International JY conference in Canada, the Rex Band trip, etc are uppermost in my mind. But one intention comes back to my mind again and again, that is, the need for urgent prayer for priests. The harvest is plentiful . . . . Pray the Lord of the harvest . . (Mt. 9: 37) Let me share some of my thoughts so that a few of you readers may respond. We have to pray for priests. Priesthood, I believe, is a wonderful invention of the Holy Spirit. I think of many great priests I know, some of them in this network, Joynet. Some Bishops are very close to my heart. I very well know that one priest alive in Spirit is indeed a mighty force for the building up of the Kingdom. All over the world a great number of priests are doing this wonderful work of God, and we have to pray for Priests. I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word (Jn. 17: 20). When I hear about failures in the life of some priest, I again say we have to pray for priests. They are called for a big mission and they have responded. They were set apart and were given support and training. But they are from among us and need our support. While talking to a big group of priests two weeks back, one of them was sharing from his heart, 'Sir, don't forget, we are human. We need your love and support'. We have to pray for priests. I dream of a wide network of people who will love the Church, love the priests and earnestly pray for them. If two of you agree on earth about anything they ask . . . (Mt. 18:19). I can never do the wonderful amount of God's work that any single priest does. (Though sometimes some priests tell us that many of us Jesus Youth do much more than any of them, I believe that our effectiveness comes from our sharing of the work of these priests.) Even if I cannot work like a prist, I can surely have a share of the abundant graces of priesthood by loving and praying for priests. He who receives a prophet because he is a prophet shall recieve a prophet's reward. . . even a cup of cold water . . shall not lose his reward. (Mt. 10:41). I don't have a complete idea, but we must have a network to specifically PRAY FOR PRIESTS. There has to be certain things that (i) each one in this network should do and (ii) certain things they do together as a body of intercessors. (i) Individually, - Daily take time to remember priests with love and pray for them. = I remember priests in general and then specifically think of the priests I know and life them to the Eternal Priest. And then I say a decade of the rosary for them. - Love and respect priest. = I greatly value my relationship with priests. It is a great thing to know a priest. There is an age-old custom of kissing the hand of a priest. At times it is a little embarrassing, but I take great joy in kissing the hand of some of them. - Try not to spread bad news about priesthood rather spread inspirational tidings. - Collaborate in whatever way possible with the good things that priests are doing. and more . . (ii) as a network called PRAY FOR PRIESTS, would some of you like to give some ideas for me. So, do pray for priests, Eddy/Cochin/ India This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The New RSV - 1 corinthians 11: 27-30 says Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves. For this reason many of you are weak and ill and some have died. On the basis of these verses, somebody told me that it's better not to receive body and blood of Jesus if he/she has committed sin. It is good to receive the communion only after purifying oneself. So does this mean that if on a particular day a person commits sin then it is better for that person not to receive the communion? I am confused. Could somebody enlighten me regarding the above scriptual verses? Mercy -[Baroda] Gujarat. _ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Pray for Priests
Dear friends, I read eddy chettans mail and there's a heaviness I feel in my heart. I don' t know why. I too share the same sentiments with regard to priests. As I've mentioned umpteen times, I'm the eldest of 6 children. My family has been thru a number of good struggles and tough times. We as a family have been very close to priests, infact I remember when I was a kid, the Jesuits, consolata fathers, and salesians we knew, used to vie telling me that I would become a priest!. Even now, our priest friends bring saints stories, rosaries, chocolates, little sacramentals here and there and give it to my brothers and sisters. I've got a large circle of priest friends too. I just love to hang around with them. I spent a lot of time with them. I borrow infinite number of books from them. I Just love talking to them and learning from them. When I need guidance the first people I run to, after my parents are priests. Even to this day people mistake me to be a seminarian. Many sisters, and priests have inadvertently asked me Josun, are u a brother? and my reply would be yes, I'm a brother of 5 mavericks and a potential father also!!. Both my parents have a great love for priests and religious. I remember once back my mother sharing with all of us: After my parents got married, they planned to have a big family. Daddin and mummy love children a lot. And from the time of their marriage both my parents have been praying for a vocation to priest hood from our family. My parents now have 4 sons and 2 daughters God only knows if any of the sons will become priests. I remember after my first holy communion my parents used to specially take me for mass after my school, and with me in the middle of them both, my mom used to whisper . my child, pray that God calls you to be a holy priest ok Speaking from the human point of view, I don't think this dream of my parents will be fulfilled in me. I'm still praying over my vocation, but now my inclination is toward family life. I told this to my parents and I noticed my moms face fall a bit. Then I told her, mummy please allow me to live my life. please don't thrust your dreams into my life, just becoz u want me to be a priest I won't become one ok I told my parents about the very powerful sex drive that I've got and with that, I don't think its possible to live an entire lifetime of celibacy. My parents still hope that one of their sons will be called by the Lord to Priesthood. Whatever it is, do pray that we do only the will of God ok. Over the past 1 and a half years God has brought a holy priest across my life, and with his guidance I've been able to direct my sex urge to more productive and creative ways. These days by the grace of God, I don't lust after every wayfaring girl I happen to see. I'm not aroused by the posters and dirt that's out there in the world. These days God is helping me to live a holy life. but even still there are times I gratify my lower passions.. But even at those times, I don't lust after any woman in particular.its only out of that terrible feeling of loneliness. I love to have a big family with a bunch of Kids around me and a woman by my side to love and embrace and share my life with. I love to see children grow and mature. I love to see myself maturing as a parent like my parents still continue to do. After reading eddy chettans mail I don't know my heart is feeling heavy. It still is. Please pray for me. I remember during one of Fr. George Kumblumootils retreat some years back here in Delhi he told us about an incident that took place in kerala. Once there was a certain meeting in which one of the bishops in Kerala was attending. Little by little people started mud slinging and muck smearing on the priests, saying see what this priest is doing, see what that priest is doing etc. and the bishop just asked them. do you want holy priests? and they all echoed in unison YES and the bishop continued coolly Live holy lives and bring up holy children Eddy chetta, count me in this initiative. I do pray for priests, now I'll do it in a more organized manner. I love priests a lot but i don't think i've got what it takes to become one. Jesus Loves you all, Josun Jose/New Delhi/India - Original Message - From: Edward A. Edezhath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:37 AM Subject: [JOYnet] Pray for Priests Hello Joynet Friends, I am from Cochin, Kerala, India. These days I am mostly at my parents' house in the village, Kumbalanghi. The evenings are quite relaxed, with a long dip in the pond and sometimes a walk near the river side. At about 9pm I spend quite some time in intercession. I pray for Jesus Youth all over, especially those with responsibilities in it and those who have asked for prayer. I remember Joynetters and many faces in it and it goes on, International JY conference in Canada, the Rex Band trip, etc are uppermost in my mind. But one intention comes back to my mind
Re: [JOYnet] Pray for Priests
yes i think it is necessary that we should spend some time praying for christian priests because they are meant to be the spiritual leaders for lay people and very often the layman doesn't realise that they are also ordinary human beings. they are ordinary ppl just like all of us, who have recieved the calling to lead different lives with sometimes more responsibility than others. the power that is invested in their lives makes them more accountable and gives them greater responsibility. so it is up to us to pray for our leaders. but i don't think that wrong doings of a priest should be covered up just to save the image of a church or a particular denomination. action should be taken. i am not condemning anyone and i am not saying that if a priest does wrong he should be condemned. but it shold be made known. in the past this was not done so that is why such incidences continued. i'm talking here, mainly about the child abuse that many priests have been acused of. sexual child abuse. if this is covered up, who suffers? maybe the church retains its image, but who suffers? the children. innocent children. if such things are made public, and priests are punished in the same way as any human being would be punished if they were caught of the same crime, such incidences would definitely be curbed. like i said earlier, when saying this, i am not condemning anyone. we are all human beings and capable of sin. but when david sinned, even though he was so beloved in God's eyes and even though he was forgiven! , he sufferd teh consequence did'nt he? his child born of sin died. God has given us power but with it, responsiblity too. so if we don't act as responsible children, we will suffer for it. hence just as we pray for our families, friends etc, we should pray sincerely for the leaders that God has chosen for his flock that they will be responsible leaders and lead their lives according tot hte vocation they have chosen and the calling htey have recieved. we should also be responsible toward ourselves and our children, and when such incidences are knon, we should not try and hide it for the sake of our church. the church should not be based on lies. in Jesus sheril daniel grahamstown, south africa Hello Joynet Friends, I am from Cochin, Kerala, India. These days I am mostly at my parents' house in the village, Kumbalanghi. The evenings are quite relaxed, with a long dip in the pond and sometimes a walk near the river side. At about 9pm I spend quite some time in intercession. I pray for Jesus Youth all over, especially those with responsibilities in it and those who have asked for prayer. I remember Joynetters and many faces in it and it goes on, International JY conference in Canada, the Rex Band trip, etc are uppermost in my mind. But one intention comes back to my mind again and again, that is, the need for urgent prayer for priests. The harvest is plentiful . . . . Pray the Lord of the harvest . . (Mt. 9: 37) Let me share some of my thoughts so that a few of you readers may respond. We have to pray for priests. Priesthood, I believe, is a wonderful invention of the Holy Spirit. I think of many great priests I know, some of them in this network, Joynet. Some Bishops are very close to my heart. I very well know that one priest alive in Spirit is indeed a mighty force for the building up of the Kingdom. All over the world a great number of priests are doing this wonderful work of God, and we have to pray for Priests. I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word (Jn. 17: 20). When I hear about failures in the life of some priest, I again say we have to pray for priests. They are called for a big mission and they have responded. They were set apart and were given support and training. But they are from among us and need our support. While talking to a big group of priests two weeks back, one of them was sharing from his heart, 'Sir, don't forget, we are human. We need your love and support'. We have to pray for priests. I dream of a wide network of people who will love the Church, love the priests and earnestly pray for them. If two of you agree on earth about anything they ask . . . (Mt. 18:19). I can never do the wonderful amount of God's work that any single priest does. (Though sometimes some priests tell us that many of us Jesus Youth do much more than any of them, I believe that our effectiveness comes from our sharing of the work of these priests.) Even if I cannot work like a prist, I can surely have a share of the abundant graces of priesthood by loving and praying for priests. He who receives a prophet because he is a prophet shall recieve a prophet's reward. . . even a cup of cold water . . shall not lose his reward. (Mt. 10:41). I don't have a complete idea, but we must have a network to specifically PRAY FOR PRIESTS. There has to be certain things that (i) each one in this network should do and (ii) certain things they
[JOYnet] ' Scripture Quote No.70 '
13-5-2002 (Monday) Dear friends in Christ, SCRIPTURE QUOTE NO.70 My word is like fire, and like a hammer which breaks the rock in pieces. - Jer. 23/29 In HIS grip and grace, (Thomas) Bangalore, India This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Life is beautiful !!!
Dear JOYnetters After a short period of hibernation our friend Suru is out from cold to say that he is alone. Suru, its hightime to get doubled???!!! :) Josun from Delhi is also in the same boat and he has declared his intention loud and clear. I am filling out what you have left blank in your mail (about family life). YES indeed family life with wife and kids are really beautiful. I have two tiny tots: One is 4 1/2 and the other 1 1/2 years old. Both are boys. So you know how hard it is. Still I find life is beautiful... If you consider every inconvenience as an adventure and face that adventure with JESUS you will find life most beautiful. So you are not alone my buddy.we all are with you along with our JESUS. Dont worry .be hapy. sebastian thomas Bahrain From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [JOYnet] Life is beautiful !!! Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 02:31:16 +0600 Hi friends, Life is beautiful !!! Why life is beautiful There are many things coming into mind.. let me start with few experiences... Everywhere it is War Terrorism and war against Terrorism CNN, BBC, Sky news, Foxnews or any Tv channels you get this peice of news... India you get Gujrat, Middle east you get Palestine issues, Nepal you get Maoists, Sri Lanka you get Tamil issues, Taliban, IRA, Al Fatah, Jihad, Hamas, Japaneese Red Armay, ETA, PKK, list is going on... If you take religions there also problems, In kerala itself we have time long issues on various things like liturgy, etc, politics is hopeless anywhere... Globalism, International trade, World bank,etc. Attack on a building in New York is affecting a family in the remote village of Assam or Bihar but same time a million dollar profit for the neighbor might not give that family any benefit.. Everywhere you can see unrest among the people. Still life is beautiful Like to share few things coming into Mind. We Joynet members are scattered all around the world. unless like other JY communities we are not from a particular place, job or situation... many of us are alone in their country or City (I mean no other Jy's around). this part of sharing specially for them... for my friends who are away from their home, far away from their parents and loving ones. No Man can Live as an Island Journeying through the life alone Last few days I was feeling so lonely... Where else can we share all this feelings... Being in this community for more than 3 years I feel this is the place we can get the real love, help, spiritual support etc. My job is like operating from my house itself and not much works always so in literal meaning here I am alone. That's is the reason these days thinking the worthiness of being with friends, Being in a Community, Being with family etc. God created this world in a beautiful harmony...Where we all can live as a community...where nobody is alone...Family ties are most important in our life. My father, Mother, their sufferings for me, How they managed to support all our way, They gave everything for us, My sister, brother, their love for me, How much they care for me... (My wife, kids don't know how to explain this part... Some married guys can explain)... Yes experincing all this... Life is beautiful... Something very beautiful right Friends - My memories going back to college days, The friendships we will remember till the end of our life My college days I got my best friends... still we are best friends and when ever in kerala I spend my time with them. Those days we worked for Jesus youth with whole heart. We have a three men Army there me, James Binu (we are best freinds for last 12 years) Last month I went to home for just two days out of that one day I spend time with these JY friends... yes life is beautiful... Today I am stopping here with a small prayer. LORD JESUS I THANK YOU FOR MY PARENTS, BROTHERS SISTERS, THANK YOU FOR THE LOVING FRIENDS AND COMMUNITIES AROUND ME. WHEN I AM ALONE BE WITH ME AS MY FATHER, MOTHER, SISTER (HUSBAND,WIFE) AND AS MY CLOSE FRIEND BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BE ALONE LORD THIS LIFE WONT BE BEAUTIFUL WITH OUT MY PARENTS, BROTHERS, SISTERS (HUSBAND, WIFE, KIDS)... EVEN IF I AM ALONE LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL...BECAUSE YOU ARE WITH ME With Love, Suresh Colombo, Sri Lanka Please Visit : www.crash.to/suresh sebastian thomas Bahrain The storms of our life prove the strength of our anchor. God sends trials not to impair us but to improve us. - - True wisdom begins and ends with God -- _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to
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Hi friends, Life is beautiful !!! When Jesus is with me life is beautiful !!! Because He is My Lord. When I am with Jesus Life is beautiful !!! Because I am walking towards Eternal Life. When I am not with Jesus life is beautiful !! because still He is with me. Even though I fall into sin everyday, I face many problems daily, My boss fired me last week, I failed in my exams, I face financial difficulties, My friends misunderstood me... Still Life is beautiful... Because I want My life to be beautiful... And with Jesus I can make this life beautiful With Luv, Suresh Colombo, Sri Lanka Just some funny infos :) www.crash.to/suresh This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Mail to Josun Jose bounced back
Greetigs. I dispatched two mails this morning to Josun Jose, appreciating his input on the net. Unforutnately both of them bounced back. So I try to comunicate with him this way. I have difficulty with Shobit Thomas from Coimbatore and Priya Joy from Cochin and a few others besides. So I thought it is good to go to them through the Joynet. I don't know what had happened. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Above mentioned is the email ID I tried to reach Josun from Delhi.ThanksGod Bless youFr Thomas Mathew/USA Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] GOD vs Science (Worth reading)
Subject: GOD vs Science (Worth reading) LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with Jesus Christ. The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. You're a Christian, aren't you, son? Yes, sir. So you believe in God? Absolutely. Is God good? Sure! God's good. Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything? Yes. Are you good or evil? The Bible says I'm evil. The professor grins knowingly. Ahh! THE BIBLE! He considers for a moment. Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? Would you try? Yes, sir, I would. So you're good...! I wouldn't say that. Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you could...in fact most of us would if we could... God doesn't. [No answer.] He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer even though he prayed to Jesus to help him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one? [No answer.] The elderly man is sympathetic. No, you can't, can you? He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new ones. Let's start again, young fella. Is God good? Er... Yes. Is Satan good? No. Where does Satan come from? The student falters. From... God... That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? The elderly man runs his bony fingers through his thinning hair and turns to the smirking, student audience. I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies and gentlemen. He turns back to the Christian. Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world? Yes, sir. Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything? Yes. Who created evil? [No answer.] Is there sickness in this world? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All the terrible things - do they exist in this world? The student squirms on his feet. Yes. Who created them? [No answer.] The professor suddenly shouts at his student. WHO CREATED THEM? TELL ME, PLEASE! The professor closes in for the kill and climbs into the Christian's face. In a still small voice: God created all evil, didn't He, son? [No answer.] The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom like an aging panther. The class is mesmerized. Tell me, he continues, How is it that this God is good if He created all evil through all time? The professor swishes his arms around to encompass the wickedness of the world. All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the torture, all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man? [No answer.] Don't you see it all over the place? Huh? Pause. Don't you? The professor leans into the student's face again and whispers, Is God good? [No answer.] Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son? The student's voice betrays him and cracks. Yes, professor. I do. The old man shakes his head sadly. Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you? No, sir. I've never seen Him. Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus? No, sir. I have not. Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus... in fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever? [No answer.] Answer me, please. No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't. You're AFRAID... you haven't? No, sir. Yet you still believe in him? ...yes... That takes FAITH! The professor smiles sagely at the underling. According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Where is your God now? [The student doesn't answer.] Sit down, please. The Christian sits...Defeated. Another Christian raises his hand. Professor, may I address the class? The professor turns and smiles. Ah, another Christian in the vanguard! Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering. The Christian looks around the room. Some interesting points you are making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing as heat? Yes, the professor replies. There's heat. Is there such a thing as cold? Yes, son, there's cold too. No, sir, there isn't. The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly goes very cold. The second Christian continues. You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We hit 458 degrees below zero, which is not heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than 458 degrees. - You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. WE cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat,
