[JOYnet] Prayer Request.
I am jipson.Please pray for me to get a goodjob and to take sutiable decisions with the job that I have at present. Jipson Kochin. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] Clarification Luke 12:53
Dear Sebastian, What Tessy has given is right. Jesus is talking about the division where there is no unity in Jesus (or division where unity is in Satan). Jesus will not allow world moving against God's plan (Read Micah 7:6). For this reason he come with fire on earth (Read Malachi 4:6, 1-6) to distroy those who belongs to the world. These division is not new in old testament. God had punished his people many times whenever they moved away from His plan. You can read the first of these kinds in Genesis chapter 7:4 (Noah) 11:8 (Babel Tower) so on.. I think you will be more clear if you meditate on Mathew 24 with lots of love and prayers Wilson Thomas Singapore - Original Message - From: Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Abha Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [JOYnet] Clarification Luke 12:53 Dear Tessy, Greetings of peace and goodwill. Thank you for the clarification. But still I couldnt able to understand or compare the Word of God with the explanation given by you. Not Peace but Division 49I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! 51Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law. with love and prayers in Jesus, Sebastian --- Abha Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sebastian, One of the pastors I know had given this interpretation to this passage. But you would need to read from Luke 12: 51 onwards. Here it says that Jesus Christ has not come for unity but for division. When do fights and quarrels come up in families.. it is when family members have focus on things other than Jesus. If family members hold anything other than Jesus as their focal point then it leads to misery and strife in the family. In usual families Jesus is replaced with money, selfishness, worldly pleasures etc.. If Jesus is given the rightful place then there will be peace in one's life and in one's family. luv prayers, Tessy. -Original Message- From: Sebastian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:47 AM To: joynet Subject: [JOYnet] Clarification Luke 12:53 Dear All, Can one of you please explain what these phrases really mean They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law. -Luke 12:53 Regards Sebastian Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] should we fear it??
Dear JYs and more specially Wijo Yeah we need to pray. But lets us remember Two Things : 1. To Fear is to concede. So if u fear the Lord u acknowledge his greatness. if you fear the evil one u acknowledge his greatness. u chose whom to fear now. u can neither serve two masters. neither can u not serve no masters. 2. Dogs Bark. Whether Black / White / dalmation / dober hound whatever. They bark. You feed it, it remains quite. But after sometime somewhatever reason, it will bark again. Some of them even bite. The thing is are you afraid of being bitten The Hindus will bark against Christians, Even the Muslims, Even the Atheists whoever. They raise 10,000 points , you will give them 10,000 reasons. And even after all this they will find Point No. 10,001 and so on Remember, you havent become a Christian on your own accord. Christ has chosen you. Christ has chosen them too to remind you that you are a Christian. In his time they will realise. Who knows you may be his vehicle for them to travel to their faith in Christ. But till then hold firm to your faith and Pray that whatever his will let it be done. Let not such outburst overwhelm you. There are still many more to come and many more to continue. However if u do feel that such matters are affecting u or stunting ur faith then to every point raised seek advise from a Priest or any word minister [[EMAIL PROTECTED] :)] or maybe Joynet out here. It is good to have some discussion out here periodically. Wijo, If you notice from your own mail. The Hindu + Muslims are not telling Christians against Christ. They are more telling their own flock about why they should not become Christians. More than you afraid of what they could do to you they are more afraid of people leaving and following the one true God:) Take Care urs in faith Jason Mumbai, India Time is a versatile performer. It flies, marches on, heals all wounds, runs out, and will tell. - Franklin P. Jones - Original Message - From: wijo peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: [JOYnet] should we fear it?? Dear friends, This is regarding a program telecasted yesterday 4-2-03 on a reputed malayalam channel at about 8pm. It was a report on the Hindu Sangamam at Cherukolpuzha. The person was talking about making India a Hindu nation. He was making a comparision study about the vedic books, Quran and the Bible. He was making unrelevent comparisions and statements telling that Hinduisum is the only religion which has scientific base, from his talks we can understand that he is not at all aware of the teachings of the Holy Bible or Quran. He strongly states that India should become a Hindu country. He is worried about our institutions, publications and all these type of movements. Still I wonder why this type of programs are telecasted in prime time. Yet another news is from the madrassas (muslim study centers) here nearby, they are taking classes to muslim youth. they are not at all worried about hindus but they really are afraid of christians, they teach that christianity was not God created but was a creation of the mastermind of Saint Paul. who was first killing all christians but afterwards found a scope of becomming the leader of a big group he managed to make a 'story' of his encounter with God and later he became the first pope. They have many more arguements and these type of stories. (still they fear to say a bad word about Jesus and mother Mary.) some of my friends (muslims) comes to clarify these types of stories. why should they do such things , to make bad remarks of christianity to boost up their religion. won't this be a threat to us later on??. should'nt we pray for this too? with prayers and love wijo === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: Re: [JOYnet] Joynet monthly prayer day
Hello Everybody, I opened this mail at 6:00 pm Sharp... Praise God... Joji On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 PRADEEP GEORGE wrote : Let us Listen to OUR LADY's asking for prayer for world peace. As told by Sindhu chechi we all will be in prayer for World peace at 6.pm IST 7 th feb.(It is first friday...all members of our famiy will be in good spirit.At least some of us will be in fasting so our prayer as on soul will be so powerfullet us try not to forget ...becasue it is so important. pradeep geroge thrissur. - Original Message - From: sindhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: joynet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: [JOYnet] Joynet monthly prayer day Hello Family, Since we got only one reply regarding topic for our monthly prayer ,let's stick by that. Kurien Uncle (again!!) suggested the theme to be World Peace. Actually ,i was also thinking the same,ever since i am hearing daily about USA's war plans And above all our dear Mother Mary,Lady of Good councel, Seat of Wisdom,is also asking us to pray and bear witness to peace. Message of January 25, 2003 ,From Our Lady of Medjugorje Dear children! With this message I call you anew to pray for peace. Particularly now when peace is in crisis, you be those who pray and bear witness to peace. Little children, be peace in this peaceless world. Thank you for having responded to my call. Let us respond to Our Mother's call.And pray for World peace on the first friday ,february 7th ,at 6.00 pm IST. And any volunteers to prepare a prayer as we did before ,when we prayed for an end to Terrorism ? Web team can you upload this intention in our web site too? Let us pray for this prayer time also daily that all will remember to pray ,not only once a month but thru out the month. In joyful communion, Sindhu, Chicago,USA. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Prayer Request
Dear Friends, Please pray for a young lady who is suffering from cancer admitted in Amala Hospital, Trichur, Kerala. She has two samll kids. ( 5 Yrs 3 Yrs) Sojan K.J. Dubai Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] A CURE FOR GRUMBLING
Aye u awsome people of Yahweh! A few days ago it rained here in Delhi and the fog was really bad. The winter supposed to make an exit by now is still lingering around making the nights really cold. My mom told me that the vegetables at home are over and I need to go to the market and buy some. I wasnt very enthusiastic about it, coz after a rain the roads are a mess with water puddles everywhere, its really yuk! But since its mummy who said, I chose to obey. (maybe I could atone for some of my many sins) She gave me the list and off I went in the direction of the market. Carrot juice is one of my favorites, I drink a lot of it. That day was no exception. On reaching the market, I ordered a glass of carrot juice from the juice vendor and started sipping it. As I was sipping from the glass, my eyes strayed at the muddy puddles and wet gravel that was all over the place. All of a sudden my eyes fell on a scene at the street corner across the road. I gulped down my carrot juice fast, paid the money and walked up to street corner. I was truly moved at what I saw. As I was just looking on, I struck upon an idea. With two big shoppers empty and folded in my hand, I immediately jumped on a rickshaw and asked the rickshaw wala to ride me home fast. The rickshaw wala thought that there was some emergency and he was doing his best to reach me home fast. Between breaths he asked sahib, kya hogaya? (what happened, sir?) I replied nothing, just reach me home immediately When I reached home, I ran up to the gate and rapped on it. I directed my youngest two brothers Johny and Akku to hop onto the rickshaw and accompany me back to the vegetable market. Mummy must have wondered at my speedy return. I never spoke anything to anyone. Akku and johny were on the rickshaw with me. They thought I was taking them out for a small jolly ride. Ive got a surprise for both of them I informed them. Their spirits were up. They were all smiles. I didnt mention anything further. Johnny and Akku are a remarkable duo. I feel very privileged to have such wonderful brothers like them. They are good team players. Of late though, Ive been observing a trend. They have developed a very unholy habit. They grumble and whine for almost anything and everything. They keep comparing themselves on the basis of what they dont have and what their friends have. When something is shared among us, theyll see who has got the biggest piece and start saying that they were purposely given the small pieces. At times from what they say, it is apparent that they feel inferior because they dont have the sophisticated gadgets and stuff that their friends at school possess. Johny being an early teenager. It is very difficult at times to advice him or correct him. He thinks he already knows everything! He tends to find fault with everything and everyone. And if we try to advice this guy his defenses go up. To be honest, for me it takes a tremendous amount of self control to tolerate these type of characters. Ive tried a lot to advice him, but even before I say anything he intercepts with now dont start your big preaching to me ok! and hes such a master at switching off his mind if he wants to. The fellow who coined up the axiom Ten can take an ass to the river, but hundred cannot make him drink! must have had people like Johny in mind!. Ive been trying to innovate ways in which I can be a friend and help him to stop his grumbling and fault finding. As the rickshaw reached the market place, we all got off paid the rickshaw wala and strode towards the street corner. Thankfully, nothing had changed. There at the street corner, squatting around a burning tyre on the wet and muddy earth were three small boys, their bare feet half sunken in the wet mud. Their clothes scanty, tattered and dirty, revealed bodies beneath them that pined for warmth and cover. These kids were taking turns puffing at one cigarette and were warming their hands by the burning tire. That day they must have been happy coz their faces betrayed that. A few feet away were 3 huge sacks filled up, leaning on an electric pole. My brothers were standing on either side of me. I dont know what was going on in their minds, but I know something was happening. My brothers were dumb for a time. They never spoke a word to me. They just looked on. I decided to take it a step even further. We walked up to where they were. I bend down putting my hands by the fire and asked them. dosto, mei bhi haath garam kar saktha hu? (friends may I warm my hands also?) haanji bhaiya aaja na (why not bro. Come) I sat on my feet, careful that my clothes dont touch the muddy earth. Akku and johny also joined me. Are these your children? they enquired, No I said, they are my brothers. They must be going to school isnt it? one of them asked. yes the do I replied. I took the opportunity and threw back the same question at them, aaplog padai karthe ho? (do you folks study?), how can we
[JOYnet] thanks
Hello friends, wish to thank you all for the prayers that each of you had done for the success of the forerunners gathering. It was a great time with 12 of the chosen ones gathered for the gathering. others due to various other commitments were unable to attend the program. As such it turned out to be a all GUJARAT gathering. as we had no representation from the 'runners out of gujarat. It was a very good time of fellowship and sharing and coming to know each other. And also as a forerunners team we were able to put together our dreams and think about future of Gujarat as a whole. Do continue to keep us all in your prayers. I also assure you our support through prayers. with love, Roy Manuel. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Great Lessons For Life - very touchy!
1 - Most Important Lesson During my second month of school, our professor gave us a pop quiz. I was a conscientious student and had breezed through the questions, until I read the last one: What is the first name of the woman who cleans the school? Surely this was some kind of joke. I had seen the cleaning woman several times. She was tall, dark-haired and in her 50s, but how would I know her name? I handed in my paper, leaving the last question blank. Just before class ended, one student asked if the last question would count toward our quiz grade. Absolutely, said the professor. In your careers, you will meet many people. All are significant. They deserve your attention and care, even if all you do is smile and say 'hello'. I've never forgotten that lesson. I've also never forgotten her name was Dorothy. 2 - Second Important Lesson - Pickup in the Rain One night, at 11:30 PM, an older African American woman was standing on the side of an Alabama highway trying to endure a lashing rain storm. Hercar had broken down and she desperately needed a ride. Soaking wet, she decided to flag down the next car. A young white man stopped to help her, generally unheard of in those conflict-filled 1960s. The man took her to safety, helped her get assistance and put her into a taxi cab. She seemed to bein a big hurry, but wrote down his address and thanked him. Seven days went by and a knock came on the man's door. To his surprise, a giant console color TV was delivered to his home A special note was attached. It read: Thank you so much for assisting me on the highway the other night. The rain drenched not only my clothes, but also my spirits. Then you came along. Because of you, I was able to make it to my dying husband's bedside just before he passed away. God bless you for helping me and unselfishly serving others. Mrs. Nat King Cole. 3 - Third Important Lesson - Always remember those who serve. In the days when an ice cream sundae cost much less, a 10-year-old boy entered a hotel coffee shop and sat at a table. A waitress put a glass of water in front of him. How much is an ice cream sundae? he asked. Fifty cents, replied the waitress. The little boy pulled his hand out his pocket and studied the coins in it. Well, how much is a plain dish of ice cream? he inquired. By now more people were waiting for a table and the waitress was growingimpatient. Thirty-five cents, she brusquely replied. The little boy again counted his coins. I'll have the plain ice cream, he said. The waitress brought the ice cream, put the bill on the table and walked away. The boy finished the ice cream, paid the cashier and left. When the waitress came back, she began to cry as she wiped down the table. There, placed neatly beside the empty dish, were two nickels and five pennies - You see, he couldn't have the sundae, because he had to have enough left to leave her a tip. 4 - Fourth Important Lesson - Giving When it Counts Many years ago,when I worked as a volunteer at a hospital, I got to know alittle girl named Liz who was suffering from a rare and serious disease. Her only chance of recovery appeared to be a blood transfusion from her 5-year-old brother, who had miraculously survivedthe same disease and had developed the antibodies needed to combat the illness. The doctor explained the situation to her little brother, and asked the little boy if he would be willing to give his blood to his sister. I saw him hesitate for only a moment before taking a deep breath and saying, Yes, I'll do it if it will save her. As the transfusion progressed, he lay in bed next to his sister and smiled, as we all did, seeing the color returning to her cheeks. Then his face grew pale and his smile faded. He looked up at the doctor and asked with a trembling voice,Will I start to die right away? Being young, the little boy had misunderstood the doctor; he thought he was going to have to give his sister all of his blood in order to save her. God Bless You All, Love and Prayers, Rosy, USA _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] posting of jobs ---concluion ----
Hi Pradeep, Janson, and all JY's First of all I really doubt this mail will be posted in joynet or NOT !!! You really did a good job by fighting agaist the Job posting Issue. Let me share with you my first feeling after the original email banning all the Job posting on Joynet. I really feel bad and totally discouraged by that mail and decided Dont ever forward any of the job posting to the joynet!. Because I have forwarded many of my close friends company job availability to the joynet and took the pain to collect all the resume from my Joynet friends which I have received on personal mail and forwarded directly to the available jobs. I think your resume was also there for one job. I did this because I know the diffeculty in getting a good job and the situation of not having a good. I had faced it a lot couple of years back where I had no one to help at all. If you could help any one and give at least some hope, I believe that will be a great help for a job hunting person or a joynetter. But after seeing the banned mail I felt I did something wrong to the Joynet and totally disapointed with that and feel like some thing going wrong some where??. I know there will be few people taking advantage of everything and I will tell you those people are not the people of GOD. But being a real jesus youth we can simply identify and neglet them. I read on that mail that the joynet posting are increasing the traffic on the net. I know for a person who has a good job and enough money to live, these postings are a head ache and they say they dont have the time to delete it. I can tell for the jobless and job hunting people ( I believe the mojority are of this catagory), those posting are of much hope, inspiration and like a real gift from GOD. It is upto you to decide who/what is right and good. May God bless us...Sorry if I hurt anyone by this mail. Lots of prayers, Stanly Kulangara, Scottsdale, USA -- pradeep george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bros sis' A few of US have responded to my last mail regarding JOB Posting in JOYNET.I think some of them did send their views only to my mail id ,not to joynet.I had strongly argued in favour of jobpostings in my last mail. I came to the following conclusions after reading the responses from Janson, Giju,Jose Joseph,Shaji Jose,Jinson J Elayidam.(thank you all for telling your views) Even the orginator of this topic Janson has not argued strongly aganist all kinds of job posting. My conlusions from above mails are as follows, If it is some important job openning , that is very genuine and not availalble thru any other means, it is acceptable to certain extent. It is OK. I too wanted said only this much.Some of the opennings, leave only two three days to apply.So posting of them on joynet would really be a help to persons who check their JOynet mails daily. Also if subject line indicate that its is a mail contianing JOb posting those who are not interested can delete it simply with two mouse clicks. You may notice that some of the mails (of course, those with spritual subject lines) do n't have anything valueable in it.All of us need to open it to see there is nothing inside it.JOb postings with clearly shown subject lines wont cause less trouble than such mails. Next , which are important opennings that are imp enough to waste JY's precious resources.? I am sure all members here have the maturity to decide on it. Janson , that is why I did n't say any thing about other job mails like the one from Angelo. Quoting Jose Joseph .Christ always wanted to feed his falks before preaching his Gospal to them.. I want to see all JYs Occupying Top positions, earning huge remunerations etc...Then only ,all can spend good amounts to the needy people. Quoting Shaji Jose Simply being spiritual is not enough.We should produce fruits.. Regards and prayers pradeep george thrissur. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] TODAY`S SAINT........
FEBRUARY 7 St. Juliana of Bologna.. (--435) life: Married woman of Bologna , Italy. Juliana and her husband agreed to separate so that he could become a priest. She devoted herself to bringing up their four children and to the service of the Church and the poor (Benedictines). . The piety and charity of Saint Juliana were extolled by Saint Ambrose of Milan. Comment: We r fellow citizens of the saints -says St.Paul.Reading understanding the heroic self-sacrificing lives of the saints who really served the mankind, is a daily tonic which strengthens all that is wholesome and generous in us and helps us to overcome our complacency and our fear of being different from other people. REFLECTION: If u lose the supernatural meaning of ur life,your charity will be philanthropy; your purity ,decency; your mortification,stupidity;your discipline,a lash; and all your works,fruitless. -St. Josemaria Escriva - With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] LET US STOP
Dear Loving Friends, Nice to see that all are very active in many of the discussions. I am to put forward a suggestion about the 'discussion' on the posting of job vacancies. All the ideas and suggestions put forth were really with good intentions in one way or other. So let us not judge anybody. But everything has to come to a reasonable conclusion. I think it is time now. 1. Let us be aware that ours is a family of loving, caring bros sis. If one in our family is wandering without a job, would we not try our best to help him/her? If not what bro/sis are we?? So let us not outrightly resist the postings. 2. An advice to those who post: definitely you are doing it with all good intentions. Please try to make sure, to the best of your ability, that those are genuine and helpful, so that our bros/sis may not be cheated. So also try to make it as short as possible; those who are interested will definitely take the rest step to get more information. It would be highly advisable that you give your id too so that those who are interested can contact you for details. Definitely this is a great service. 3. ONLY A CLICK. Should we not be little more considerate? It is for all of us to preach, share many good ideas; but when it comes to the reality, in practice it is very difficult. True that increasing the no. of mails is a problem for many. But I think there are many ways to deal with it. You who are experts in comp. can suggest ways like, filtering your own mails, or putting them in inbox and opening them when you have time or such. But the bottom line is that we only have to take a little pain/ have a little more patience to just click close / delete. In Christian charity let us take that pain for our bros/sis. 4. Those who post it, if could give a title like 'job vacancies', it would be easy for the recipients even at the first site to either open or delete. LASTLY, I recall a sharing we had in Canada during the last WYD, by Fr. S.Areekat, where, while he was giving an idea about what JY is, he mentioned clearly the fact that it is a forum where we try to help one another in various ways to help our young bros/sis to find jobs also. And I do truly believe that it is an important ministry. So please, in good spirit let us stop the discussion, with the understanding that we will help our bros/sis, even when it is painful for us in some way. God bless you all. Sorry for being long, but could not avoid. Fr. Thomas Tharayil USA replied. The little boy again counted his coins. I'll have the plain ice cream, he said. The waitress brought the ice cream, put the bill on the table and walked away. The boy finished the ice cream, paid the cashier and left. When the waitress came back, she began to cry as she wiped down the table. There, placed neatly beside the empty dish, were two nickels and five pennies - You see, he couldn't have the sundae, because he had to have enough left to leave her a tip. 4 - Fourth Important Lesson - Giving When it Counts Many years ago,when I worked as a volunteer at a hospital, I got to know alittle girl named Liz who was suffering from a rare and serious disease. Her only chance of recovery appeared to be a blood transfusion from her 5-year-old brother, who had miraculously survivedthe same disease and had developed the antibodies needed to combat the illness. The doctor explained the situation to her little brother, and asked the little boy if he would be willing to give his blood to his sister. I saw him hesitate for only a moment before taking a deep breath and saying, Yes, I'll do it if it will save her. As the transfusion progressed, he lay in bed next to his sister and smiled, as we all did, seeing the color returning to her cheeks. Then his face grew pale and his smile faded. He looked up at the doctor and asked with a trembling voice,Will I start to die right away? Being young, the little boy had misunderstood the doctor; he thought he was going to have to give his sister all of his blood in orde === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] Is this true???
Hello Joynetters, This article appeared in the December issue of Charisindia .. If these preachers have made these statements (and it looks like they have - since their words have been quoted), then heeding them would be dangerous to our faith as they are based on erroneous doctrines. By virtue of the blatant error the statements convey, I also believe that most of the mainline protestant churches would certainly regard them as erroneous too. False doctrines on the Trinity, nature of God, Jesus, our redemption etc have been prevalent and refuted since the days of the early church. I do not wish to get into the specific errors since they are very obvious and self -evident. In case anyone wants to look into the doctrinal aspects behind these tenets of faith, please refer to church documents such as the Catechism of the Catholic church http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm, etc Having said this, I must also say that just because we find erroneous doctrines in some programs, we should'nt regard the entire channel as heretic since there are a broad spectrum of churches and preachers who appear on it and not all have the same doctrine. There are some programs like messages for day to day Christian living (devoid of doctrine-which may or may not be acceptable to us), talk shows, documentaries, childern's ministry, Evangelizaton efforts, works of mercy etc that seem to be positively edifying and worth emulating. Good testmonies are also telecasted. Who can refute a persons testimony esp if his life has changed totally? I myself have benefited from some of the programs (not all of course) but the teachings on practical day to day living are very uplifting. Some of the are worth watching and emulating. I suggest that we don't discard the entire channel (we get the 'God' channel here - earlier we had TBN) as anti-Christian or heresy-infested but selectively view programs learning from the good and dropping the erroneous ones. However, new Christians and those with shallow faith and doctrine would be easily gullible when error is mixed with truth and it is better to be on guard What approach do we then take? A prayerful approach: Error sometimes creeps in when we are not walking in the truth that we already hold. We twist scripture to suit our pet beliefs. This has to do with obedience and therefore we need to pray for it - pray for holiness of those who preach. Purity of doctrine preached especially because they preach in the name of Christ. Monthly prayer point :-) A sober approach: We need to understand that although our church has the fulness of truth, false teaching is even being spread within the confines of our Church (of course, it may not be 'official' since the Vatican is clear on what we believe). There are a few preachers among the church that preach heresy-infested New Age doctrines, philosophies of indifferentism (all religions are equal) and what not from their pulpits. I have witnessed this myself and am sure some of you would have too. Now, if a protestant were to attend one of these services, would we not be conveying an altogether wrong impression of the doctrines of our church? We need to positively correct the error within I Cor 5:12-13 A Catholic approach : When there is no major doctrinal error, we shouldn ot generalize or condemn Mk 9:37-39 A discerning approach : I Jn 4:1 We need to know at least the basics our faith well - from Church documents and encyclicals, Bible commentaries and good catholic literature. We need to be able to spot and counter any false teaching. II Cor 11:13 However, we need to do so with humility and without generalization which is detrimental to Christian unity. We may have excellent analytical and apologetic skills. But we also need to make use of the media like these channels (and like the article pointed out - Msgr Fulton Sheen did) if we believe that our faith is worth holding and sharing. Otherwise we would be no more than brilliant critics. Only then we will be able to prove worthy of the treasure that has been entrusted to us and meet the yearning in the hearts of so many who do not know the Saviour. Love and prayers, Christopher Rosemary Thomas wrote: Dear everyone, This is a mail I got... I dont know how true it is. I am sorry it is a bit long but please do go through it and if some of you can explain if this is really true or is just made up... pls do. I personally do not like to put down these people since I am ignorant of the situation and this may be wrong... so whoever knows.. pls do enlighten... whether it is true and to what extent... Waiting for inputs... thanks... Love and prayers, Rosemary (Goa) Health, Wealth and Heresy When you switch on to the Miracle or God Channels on television, listen with your head and heart to know how the truth is being distorted We look at the subtle dangers of watching TBN (Miracle Channel) on TV, we shall look at some ofthe
[JOYnet] prayer request: for GATE Exam on 9th Feb 2003, Sunday
Loving all, Kindly pray for my wife Twinkle and for me that we will be made ready to surrender completely to the will of LOrd and receive it with atmost happiness. I thnak God for giving me brothers and sisters like u around to show Lord's love Thank u so much luv n prayers george === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] HOW A SON THINKS
HOW A SON THINKS ... This is about how a son thinks at different ages: 4 Years My daddy is great. 6 '' My daddy knows everybody. 10 '' My daddy is good but is short tempered . 12 '' My daddy was very nice to me when I was young . 14 '' My daddy is getting fastidious. 16 '' My daddy is not in line with the current times. 18 '' My daddy is becoming increasingly cranky . 20 '' Oh! Its becoming difficult to tolerate daddy .Wonder how Mother puts up with him . 25 '' Daddy is objecting to everything . 30 '' It's becoming difficult to manage my son . I was so scared of my father when I was young . 40 '' Daddy brought me up with so much discipline .Even I should do the same . 45 '' I am baffled as to how my daddy brought us up . 50 '' My daddy faced so many hardships to bring us up . I am unable to manage a single son . 55 '' My daddy was so far sighted and planned so many things for us .He is one of his kind and unique . 60 '' My daddy is great . Thus, it took 56 years to complete the cycle and come back to the 1st. stage. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] LET US STOP
First of all let me say this. No offence but my name is Jason. Not Janson. hehe.. Yep its good to finally put a Full Stop to all such mails. We should be really sharing more spiritual matters rather than wasting time on this. If ever you have a doubt on sharing any mail with Joynet u can always mail any of the Core Team Member up before putting on Joynet. In case we dont know who they are, kindly note as below: 1. Giju George (Chennai, India - Administrator)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 2. Mathew Joseph (Bangalore, India- Co-ordinator) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 3. Joseph Lonth (Dubai)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 4. Kurien Nillikunnel (USA)[i dont have at present] 5. Priya Joseph (Kochi, India)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 6. Josun Jose (Abudabi)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 7. Suresh Kumar (Colombo)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 8. Annie John (Kochi, India)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 9. Lovely (USA)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 10. Ravi Vaz (Bombay)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 11. Mathews KG (Abudabi)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 12. Abraham(Fujirah)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 13. Anitha D'souza (Kuwait)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 14. Manoj Jons Davis (Kochi, India)[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 15. Bejoy (USA),[i dont have at present] As per Reshama's mail the Theme for this month from the 1st to the 15th is Thankfullness. Let us be Thankful to our Lord for giving us Joynet where we get a chance to witness his love. Let us be thankful to people like Giju and Mathew Joseph for doing such a wonderful job out here. Let us be thankful to the rest of the Core Team, the Priests on Joynet, the Ex-officio members and the members of the JY Team who work the on and behind the scenes of Joynet. And Lastly leaving you with a thought that was shared with me by my brother and which i shared with many of my friends this month. Where there is a Will There is ... [those who thought way Wrong] Where there is a Will There is Jesus. Because Jesus said I am the Way [John 14:6] take care. urs in faith Jason Mumbai, India Time is a versatile performer. It flies, marches on, heals all wounds, runs out, and will tell. - Franklin P. Jones - Original Message - From: FR. THOMAS THARAYIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: [JOYnet] LET US STOP Dear Loving Friends, Nice to see that all are very active in many of the discussions. I am to put forward a suggestion about the 'discussion' on the posting of job vacancies. All the ideas and suggestions put forth were really with good intentions in one way or other. So let us not judge anybody. But everything has to come to a reasonable conclusion. I think it is time now. 1. Let us be aware that ours is a family of loving, caring bros sis. If one in our family is wandering without a job, would we not try our best to help him/her? If not what bro/sis are we?? So let us not outrightly resist the postings. 2. An advice to those who post: definitely you are doing it with all good intentions. Please try to make sure, to the best of your ability, that those are genuine and helpful, so that our bros/sis may not be cheated. So also try to make it as short as possible; those who are interested will definitely take the rest step to get more information. It would be highly advisable that you give your id too so that those who are interested can contact you for details. Definitely this is a great service. 3. ONLY A CLICK. Should we not be little more considerate? It is for all of us to preach, share many good ideas; but when it comes to the reality, in practice it is very difficult. True that increasing the no. of mails is a problem for many. But I think there are many ways to deal with it. You who are experts in comp. can suggest ways like, filtering your own mails, or putting them in inbox and opening them when you have time or such. But the bottom line is that we only have to take a little pain/ have a little more patience to just click close / delete. In Christian charity let us take that pain for our bros/sis. 4. Those who post it, if could give a title like 'job vacancies', it would be easy for the recipients even at the first site to either open or delete. LASTLY, I recall a sharing we had in Canada during the last WYD, by Fr. S.Areekat, where, while he was giving an idea about what JY is, he mentioned clearly the fact that it is a forum where we try to help one another in various ways to help our young bros/sis to find jobs also. And I do truly believe that it is an important ministry. So please, in good spirit let us stop the discussion, with the understanding that we will help our bros/sis, even when it is painful for us in some way. God bless you all. Sorry for being long, but could not avoid. Fr. Thomas Tharayil USA replied. The little boy again counted his coins. I'll have the plain ice cream, he said. The