[JOYnet] Important prayer request! - P L E A S E!
My dear Joynet family, I have an important prayer request for you. Please pray very hard so that God will do miracles in this impossible situation. This prayer is for a family (husband, wife, two kids) who is very close to me. The couples have been married for the past 7 years. Their family life is nothing but terrible. The husband/chettan has been accusing the wife/chechy all these years. He hurt her physically & mentally.. He is addicted to alcohol. His main problem is uncontrollable temper. This chechy and her family tried their best to please this man all the time but no use. The actual problem started even before their marriage (since the day before their engagement day). [This chettans family background is also very bad. His parents were separated for a long time (not divorced). After so many years, now the parents are living together. So when this Chettan was young, he lived with his father and his sister lived with his mother. I can simply say that his father is a living satan. I am sorry to say thatbut thats what everyone says about him. His mentality, attitudes, things he doesall are totally different than a normal human being. Chettan in this story loves his father so much and will do only whatever his father tells him to do. Anyway, His mother is such a pavum lady like the Chechy in this story. Just few months back, his sister got divorced. She has one son. Basically the whole family has some fundamental problems.] This family hasbeen going through problems. Even the Chechys family thought aboutdivorce with this Chettan. They lived separately almost two months. Butnow they are living together.but the problems are still there. Anyway, this Saturday we having a special retreat for married couples in our church. This is very special that its only including a very small number of couples. Someone contacted this chettan before and asked him to attend this retreat. He said he will attendBut, two days ago, he told his wife that..dont think I will go to the retreat ..i dont want anyone to hope that they will see me change because of this retreat..njan retreat-ne poyittu marunnathu kanan arum agrahikkanda..enne nannakkan arum nokkandaetc etc etc. We all were hoping to see a miracle in their family life after this Saturday. But, now.we all are depressed that he decided to not to go. But, I am sure God can do miracles in secondsIts never late for our loving Father. So, can you all please pray for this familyespecially for him to have the desire to attend this retreat. Pleaspleaseeeplease pray ... WIth love and prayers, Rosy, USA _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] A Lesson for every salaried employee (story)
Forwarded message A lesson for every salaried employee A butcher watching over his shop is really surprised when he sees a dog coming inside the shop. He shoos him away. But later, the dog is back again. So, he goes over to the dog and notices it has a note in its mouth. He takes the note and it reads "Can I have 12 sausages and a leg of lamb, please". The dog has money in its mouth, as well. The butcher looks inside and, loand behold, there is a ten dollar note there. So he takes the money and puts the sausages and lamb in a bag, placing it in the dog's mouth. The butcher is so impressed, and since it's about closing time, he decides to shut the shop and follow the dog. So off he goes. The dog is walking down the street, when it comes to a level crossing, the dog puts down the bag, jumps up and presses the button. Then it waits patiently, bag in mouth, for the lights to turn. They do, and it walks across the road, with the butcher following him all the way. The dog then comes to a bus stop, and starts looking at the timetable. The butcher is in awe as the dog stops a bus by pulling its left leg up and gets in it. The butcher follows the dog into the bus. The dog then shows a ticket which is tied to its belt to the bus conductor.The butcher is nearly fainting at this sight, so are the other passengers in the bus. The dog then sits near the driver's seat looking outside waiting for the bus stop to come. As soon as the stop is in sight, the dog stands and wags its tail to inform the conductor. Then, without waiting for the bus to stop completely, it jumps out of the bus and runs to a house very close to the stop. It opens the big iron gate and rushes inside towards the door. As it approaches the wooden door, the dog suddenly changes its mind and heads towards the garden. It goes to the window, and beats its head against it several times, walks back, jumps off, and waits at the door. The butcher watches as a big guy opens the door, and starts abusing the dog, kicking him and punching him, and swearing at him. The butcher surprised with this, runs up, and stops the guy. "What in heaven's name are you doing? The dog is a genius. He could be on TV, for the life of me!", to which the guy responds: "You call this clever? This is the second time this week that this stupid dog's forgotten his key." Moral of the story . You may continue to exceed onlookers' expectations but shall always fall short of the bosses' expectations. === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Introduction
Dear Joynetters I am Robin Jacob, working in a software firm in Trivandrum, India. I joined the list yesterday. I found the list interesting since it discusses issues which really concern the youth of today. I look forward to enrich myself from the views expressed in this forum and to contribute. I skimmed through the archives and found the thread on marriage and love quite interesting. Though I am not an authority to define love from an ideological perspective, I strongly feel that a relationship grows when it is nurtured. It takes effort and commitment to strengthen the bond. Society, church and culture provide strong nutrients to this relationship. I find the discussion strongly skewed towards the erotic aspect of premarital love, which is considered sinful. I have often seen that many relationships, before and after marriage, does not grow out of this aspect alone, but in the compatibility and companionship each one provides in terms of trust, admiration and respect. Best Wishes Robin Jacob Trivandrum/India Disclaimer: "The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that IBS or IBS Group like any other large global corporation, are unable to exercise total control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of contents of the information contained in individual e-mail transmissions and the recipient acknowledges that any views expressed in this message may be those of the individual sender and no binding nature of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so expressly with due authority of IBS Group. Before opening any attachments please check them for viruses and defects." === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] Don't fall and get fractured
Hi Friends, Sebastian inspired me to share my experience as well. My parents asked my permission to look for a girl. I said it is you decided everything until now. So you will choose my girl. They were very happy hearing that. I was in Singapore that time. They arranged marriage and informed me the date of betrothal and wedding!! I did not even saw a photo my girl. I took leave and got married to the same girl. She is a true gift for me from God. When my parents were planing, here in Singapore there was a prayer group praying for me to guide my parents to choose the best. How God acted? Believe.. what you are going to read is true .. That time there was another strong proposal for "my girl" from a rich family. They have decided to fix that. The day before giving world they all went to Church and prayed. That night my father -in-law saw a dream of cremation and he was there. He got scared and rejected that proposal. Next choice (but God's first choice) was mine. The same they did. All went to Church and prayed one day before giving us word. That night he dreamt a marriage feast. He was walking around and talking to everyone happily. They FIXED my proposal.. Let me repeat the "words of Sebastian" > Blessed are those who get married with the one selected by God for you. > Blessed are those who wait and discern Gods plans before falling and get > fractured. Praise the Lord Wilson Thomas Singapore - Original Message - From: "Sebastian Kakkasseri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: [JOYnet] Don't fall and get fractured > Dear Gigu, > > i forward it to u as my previous mails are not coming in joynet. > tk > seb > > This is my own story > > Before my marriage, one of my friends brought a proposal for me from Kuwait. > She was also working here. We introduced each other, talked, understood each > other etc. etc.. Then What? > > Next step is decision making, but before that discernment. I prayed to God, > but didnt get any discernment (I didnt know the tricks of Dr.Sindhu). Then > I made a suggestion, let us leave it for our parents to make the final > decision, until that we will wait(I am also tricky know?). My discernment > was this that God will speak through our parents. > > Later our parents started enquiries, discussions etc. and finally they > disagreed each other for some silly reasons. > > Now we had two choices. > > (1) We are matured, have good jobs and can insist our parents to forget > about the disagreements and to go ahead with wedding arrangements. > > Or > > (2) To obey our parents and keep our relationship as good friends. > > I selected the 2nd one (that was my discerning point) and called her to > inform it. I was little bit scared because I didnt know her stand. But for > my surprise, before I start, she was advising me to select the 2nd as she > already selected it. > > You might be laughing, .as...wearefools. Am I right? But I would like to > mention a few points. > > We were not lovers, means no commitments. So there was no disappointment > also. > > I was well aware about Gods plans, though it was not clear for me. So no > chance for any jumps or falls. > > Blessed are those who get married with the one selected by God for you. > Blessed are those who wait and discern Gods plans before falling and get > fractured. > > (Dont worry if anybody fractured already, Lord can repair even a fractured > relationship) > > > Sebastian Kuwait > > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > === > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. > For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join > In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Daily Bread 28.02.03 (Simplicity)
Your decrees are wonderful; therefore my soul keeps them. The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple. Turn to me and be gracious to me, as is your custom toward those who love your name. Psalm 119 : 129 - 132 _ May God Bless You This Day And Forever === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] ETHE END-TIME GLOBAL REVIVAL:WHAT IS YOUR VIEW?
E: END TIME GLOBAL REVIVAL WHATS YOUR VIEW? Dear Joynetters, May you ever remain blessed. This write up is aimed at making a clear elaboration on the questionnaire I sent to you on the above subject, as some of our brothers demanded. Actually, the central focus of the forthcoming publication of which I requested to have your personal views is not on end time. The word "end-time" is used here to describe the period in which we are and the classification of the expected revival in our time. The focus is on global revival. Many people have their different views concerning the end-time and these views often results in controversy. However, my approach to it is from general scriptural and Christian perspective. In his letter to the exiles of dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bittynia, St Peter said; The end of all things is at hand, therefore keep sane and sober unto prayers (Pet.4:7). The Catechism of the Catholic Church further explained: Since the ascension, Gods plan has entered into its fulfiment. We are already at the last hour Already the final stage of the world is with us, and the renewal of the world is irrevocably under way, it is even now anticipated in a certain real way, for the church on earth is endowed already with a sanctity that is real but imperfect. Christs Kingdom already manifests its presence through the miraculous signs that attend its proclamation by the church (C.C.C No. 670) While St. Peter tells us that the end of all things is near, the church draws our attention to the fact that we are in the "last hour". To make this clearer, St. Peter added But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for time being kept until the day of judgement and destruction of ungodly men (11 Pet. 3:7) However, St. Peter did not hesitate to clarify himself thus: But do not ignore this fact, beloved that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise as some understand slowness, but is forbearing towards you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned (11 Pet. 3:8-10) In summary, we could see that the end of all things which is also referred to as the last hour is at hand but the date and time of actual end is unknown to man. We could also see that God is being patient to see if all may reach repentance,. This therefore means that the end-time does not just refer to the end day but to the periods that preceed the end day. And we can also see that the period in which we are is referred to as the end-time or the last hour as Catechism puts it. But as to when and how the actual end will be we do not know. Since it is not Gods will that any one should perish but that all should come to repentance, the end-time global revival is all about what God is doing at these last hours of grace through his people on earth in order to save the whole church from decay and the entire human race from destruction. It also refers to the actions of the Holy Spirit in convincing the world on the truth of sin, righteousness and judgement. Contributors should therefore not border themselves with how the end will look like and when it will be but should write based on their view of what God is doing in and through the universal church to restore His people to Himself. What actually is your view on what God is doing in these latter days especially in your country? What are the obstacles to this global revival? Are you a part of it? What is your personal commitment to this global revival? How do you intend to make Christ know to your generation? A paragraph or two is enough (at most a page) . May the Holy spirit inspire you to make a contribution that will help people in other parts of the world to wake up from slumber. Thanks. Jude S.C. Asogwa (Nigeria) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] THANK YOU ALL FOR PRAYING
THANK YOU ALL OF U FOR PRAYING FOR ME .MY LAB EXAMS WERE OVER AND TODAY I GOT THE RESULT I PASSED ALL WITH 74.5% PRAISE GOD. I WANT TO SHARE THE BLESSINGS I RECEIVED THROUGH OUT THE LAB EXAMS DUE TO YOUR PRAYERS. MOST OF U MIGHT THINK I AM TOO PAMPERED ...YES I REALLY AM BY GOD ... WELL HE HAS GIVEN ME SISTERS AND BROTHERS WHO REALLY PRAY FOR ME. OK NOW I WILL TELL ABT MY EXPERIENCE . ...WE HAD OUR LAB EXAM ON 10TH JAN ...I THOUGHT I WAS PREPARED I WENT THROUGH SOME PROGRAMS WE DID IN CLASS AND WENT...I ALSO ASKED U ALL TO PRAY ...I WAS CONFIDENT.. BUT WHEN I WENT THERE THE EXTERNAL SIR DID NOT COME AND OUR LAB WAS POSTPONEDI WAS DISSAPPONITED AS THIS WAS REALLY TOUGH LAB AND I WANTED IT TO BE OVER .BUT THEN NEXT DAYS OTHERS HAD EXAM AND WE FOUND THAT THE QUESTIONS ASKED WAS REALLY FAR TOUGHER THAN ANYINE COULD IMAGINE.SO WE STARTED PREPARING WITH ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. AND STILL I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY OK IN MY PREPARATIONS. I WENT FOR THE EXAM ON FEB 5TH..BY THE WAY I STUDY IN CET TRIVANDRUM FOR EC.WHEN I WAS ABT TO ENTER THE HALL ALEX JOSEPH CAME (CET CORE TEAM) AND HE AND CENNIL TOLD THEY WILL BE PRAYING..AT THAT TIME I NEEDED ALL THE PRAYER AFTER THAT I GOT A QUESTION AND IT WAS SOMEWHAT EASY...I STARTED THINKING THE LOGIC...I WROTE IT AND THEN PROGRAMMED IT IN MACHINE LANGUAGE ..IT WAS 8086 UP LAB...EVERYTHING OK TILL NOW...THEN I WENT TO THE BENCH AND STARTED TO ENTER THE CODE ...THEN RAN THE CODE ..IT WOULDNT RUN...I WAS CALM I DID IT AGAIN ...NO USE ...THE I STARTED DEBUGGING IT ...I COULDN'T FIND THE ERROR.THEN AT LAST AFTER 3 HOUR 15 MIN SIR CAME AND ASKED " DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT HAVE THE RESULT?ONLY YES OR NO ." I SAID I NEED 10 MINS HE SAID SO IS THE ANS NO? I SAID 10 MINS..THE HE SAID THAT U WERE HERE FOR 3HOURS AND STILL HAVE NO RESULT wHAT CAN U DO IN 10 MINS ?...I THOUGHT I CAN PRAY COZ NOTHING WLSE LEFT TO DO...THEN HE SAID TAKE 5 MINS..OK I SAT DOWN CLOSED THE PAPER THEN STARTED PRAYING ..I ALMOST PRAYED FOR THREE MINS .NOW 2 TO GO. I PRESSED THE SWITCH TO RUM THE PGM ...VOILA I GOT THE RESULT .I REALLY DONT KNOW HOW I WAS SO EXCITED THAT GOD HEARD MY PRAYER THAN HAVING GOT THE OUT PUT.. BUT SIR CAME AND TOLD THAT HE WANTED TO GIVE NEW INPUT VALUED AND OBSERVE THE OUTPUT ok then he entered the input and WHEN HE RAN THE PGM ALSO WE GOT THE RESULT. THE VIVA WAS EXTREMLT EASY BCOZ A NEW SIR CAME AND STARTED ASKING VIVA SURING MY TURN... WHEN I REACHED HOME MY THOUGHT WAS THAT MY LOGIC WAS RIGHT AND GOD GAVE ME SOME ASSISTANCE TO COMPLETE THE JOB...ME HALF GOD HALF... WELL THAT DAY VIMAL CHETTAN (SERVICE TEAM TVM) CAME TO MY HOME AND I WAS TELLING HIM ABT THIS . THEN I UNDERSTOOD THAT MY LOGIC WAS ALL TOGETHER WRONG . MY QUESTION WAS TO FIND THE LCM OF N NO: AND MY PGM WOULD ONLY GIVE THE CORRECT ANS TO A SET OF NUMBERS 32,16,8,4,2 AND MOST MIRACULOUSLY MY SIR ASKED ME TO ENTER 32 ,16, 8,4,2 PRAISE GOD. AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS 100% HIM ALONE. DEEPAK TVM/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] RE:GET UP FROM THE LAPS OF DELILAH
Dear Joynetters, Greetings in Jesus name. I discovered that the above write-up has attracted actions and reactions,as it coincided with Valentine season when much articles are written on the subject of love. The comments of all are very very interesting as each person has his own understanding and interpretation of the above subject matter, but for the purpose of clarity especially as this has to do with love, I wish to make the following observations: God instituted love and commanded all to love, the greatest commandment according to Jesus is that we love the Lord our God and second which is next to it is that we love our neaighbour as we love ourselves (Matt 22:36-39) We cannot do without loving one another but we must bear in mind that the world`s concept of love is errotic and that is why a lot of people today are becoming crazy about love. People have defined lust as love because of the sexual feelings they have towards each other and this has resulted in many backsliding from faith like Bro. Samson. Love that makes one to offend God is not love indeed, no matter how we claim to love our partners if such love leads us to committing sexual immorality then that love is not love afterall but lust of the flesh and that was the problem of Samson and Delilah. We should bear in mind that the history of the past heroes of faith is made availaible to us in other that we may be able to see the greateness and mercy of God and at the same time learn from their mistakes and pick challenge from their great exploits. Therefore we should not in anyway think that Samson was right for falling in love with a girl from Philistine because God had earlier warned Israelites not to intermarry with them, it is therefore obvious that any relationship with anybody in our time that is like that of Samson and Delilah will result in deviation and regret. meanwhile Jesus has shown us by example how to love. The love of Christ is self sacrificial ( Agape) which is not based on what somebody can do for us but on what we can do for somebody to the glory of God. Let this kind of love grow amongst us; Love that keeps no record of wrongs and cover multitude of sins, love that is anchored on holiness and on Jesus who is LOVE. THANKS Bro. Jude S.c. Asogwa Nigeria __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] TODAY`S SAINT........ST. ISABEL OF FRANCE
FEBRUARY26TH2003 ST. ISABEL OF FRANCE Virgin ( 1225--1270) LIFE: Isabella , daughter of King Louis VII of France and Blanche of Castle , born in march 1225.and, sister of St.Louis IX, king of france (1226--70).When still a child at court,Isabel or Elizabeth, showed an extraordinary devotion to exercises of piety, modesty, and other virtues.She was devoted to the Franciscan order, & Franciscan fathers were her special confessors.She not only broke her engagement with a count, but moreover refused the hand of Conrad, son of German Emperor Frederick II, although pressed to accept him by everyone. to continue her life of virginity consecrated to God. She ministered to the sick and the poor, and after the death of her mother, founded the Franciscan Monastery of the Humility of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Longchamps in Paris. She lived there in austerity .She never became a nun and refused to become abbess. After a life of mortification and virtue, Isabella died in her house at Longchamp on 23rd february,1270. and was buried in the convent church.After nine days her body was exhumed, when it showed no signs of decay, and many miracles were attributed to her. PATRONAGE: sick people.. REFLECTION: **It gives Me real pleasure when men hope great things from Me. and I always grant themmore than they expect** ( Our Lord to St.Mechtide) COMMENT: Isnt it marvelous to know about this girl who renounced all the prosperity & wealth ,she could have enjoyed for the sake of His love and at the end she partakesthe wealth & prosperity of the Heavanly Kingdom.let us pray for the youngsters , to realise thier call.Western church is in need of religious . Oh! sweet Eucharist ! & beloved Mother keep me as thy own. S.THOMAS NOTTINGHAM ENGLAND - With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] "MY FATHER IN HEAVEN"
Dear Friends! My name is MaryYardlin and I am a software engineer.I came to know about this JoyNet a few days back ago through a friend of mine.I would like to share a small poem against ABORTION which I had written in my schooldays. I am not a poetess -:)...One fine day I felt that I had to write a poem against this crueltyand thats how I wrote it. The poem is written as narrated by the foetus. He wants to live and see his mother and the world. When he is being killed he has no place to hide nor escape and he pleads to his mother to spare him .He tells her how much he longs to see his mums face.But unfortunately he becomes a victim of Abortion.In the final stanza he find himself as an angel in the lap of his creator who showers him with love and rains him with kissesThe name of the poem is "My father in Heaven". Any corrections in this poem and suggestions are most welcome... MY FATHER IN HEAVEN I have life and I want to live I have right ,the right to see this world. I want to grow like all babes do grow. Oh!Mother please do not banish me from existence. I long for the warmth,the warmth from your touch I am your flesh and we are one blood Oh!Mother I plead I want to live! I cry out feebly - a voice no earthling would hear I lay hidden deep in your flesh and blood Anxiously am I waiting to see your face Oh!Mother do not butcher me ,what wrong did I do?? I am a helpless mite ,cannot let out a cry Please give me a chance to see the world. Alas!The time has come and my end is near My blood and marrow called out for justice Isnt there anyone to love and accept me I struggled with my little body to run and hide But the world has won in its own dark ways The hills became quiet , the autumn breeze flew The streaming river flowed in gloom... ** *** I found myself in heaven, on the lap of my creator He showered me with love and rained me with kisses He showed me his palm where my picture was engraved Everlasting joy radiated from my face And two little wings did he present me A beautiful angel did I become. He kept me to his chest and sang me a lullaby "Oh!little baby you are precious to me" I was so happy ,no longer am I worried I closed my eyes and slept peacefully Regards MaryYardlin Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] YOU SHALL NOT DIE WITH YOUR ENEMIES
YOU SHALL NOT DIE WITH YOUR ENEMIES God answered all the prayers of Samson in the Land of Philistines. He pray that God might strengthen him once more so that with a single blow he would avenge one the Philistines for his eyes. God did it! But Samson also said LET ME DIE WITH THE PHILISTINES (Judges 16:30). As a result, Samson died with his enemies, for the building collapsed on them all. Dont you think that if Samson had not wished to die with the philistines that he would have survived? I think so. However, something prompted those words of Samson. The following are what I feel contributed to that. Firstly, Samson had lost his eyes. I have heard people today who say that they prefer to die than to become blind. May be Samson had the same kind of thought. However, no matter how we may have been shattered by our enemy through circumstance, we should never think that there is no way out. I have encountered people who were about commiting suicide for making one terrible mistake or the other. Instead of helping the issue it will result in eternal regret for we have no right to take our lives. Although you may have lost your focus in life, do not pray to die in that state. Your marriage may have be shattered but the world has not ended. Secondly, Samson never saw the possibility of his escape to Israel since he could no longer see. Humanly speaking he was right to pray thus but in any matter that involves God, there is nothing like impossibility. With God all things are possible (MK 10:27). I believe that if Samson had prayed for Gods deliverance, he would have got it. When you are in such situation, do not look at the circumstances or on your weakness for where mans ability stops that is where Gods miracle begins. Trials can come our way, there could be seemingly insurmountable mountain before us but God can deliver us. Thirdly, Samson might have also suffered from self-condemnation. Actually, God gave him a lot of opportunities to escape but he did not utilize them. He might have felt so guilty that he no longer wished to live. Many of us too suffer from feelings of guilt for falling into one temptation or the other. Some of us wish we were dead and cannot boldly talk in the public. Why do you think so? God can still forgive you! He calls you to come and settle the matter with Him no matter how dark is your sins (Is.1:18). And if God has forgiven you who can still condemn you? No one, not even the devil has right to do so. So when the devil brings you to justice, plead Gods mercy. Jude S. C. ASOGWA (Nigeria) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
Re: [JOYnet] ON FALLING IN LOVE- ONCE AGAIN
Hi joynetters, Having seen so many mails on this hot topic, "Love before marriage", my observation is that each one of us has his/her own interpretation of the terms we use. For eg, love. Ravi has finally mentioned of 4 types of love, which I hope most of us will agree. Now that Josun has quoted CCC, I thing things have been quite clear to each of us. Whether falling (or standing up, or flying up, or whatever) in love is a sin or not? We have to answer this question taking into consideration of the persons involved. Sin, I suppose, is anything against love, faith, God's will. A few examples: 1) When a small kid tries to cross a heavy traffic road on his own, his parents object to it. Coz it's dangerous. When he grows up, he can do it. For he is grown up enough to take good care of him. Now if I say - "Do not cross the road alone !!!". Is it right for everyone ?? 2) God commanded Israel, "Do not mix up with the gentiles, people with strange beliefs." Now God here asks people not to reach out to people of other nations. He is setting up a clear boundary, or a barrier. Why? Is it because God does not love gentiles, and have no concern for them. Are they people whom God hated? Definitely the people of Israel believed so. But Jesus, the Holy One of God commanded His disciples. Go into the whole world and preach the Good News to all the creation. You will be my witnesses from Jerusalem to Samaria and to the ends of the world." See, the same God asks His people to reach out even to the gentiles. HAS OUR GOD CHANGED? Is He following His strange moods? NO!!! The difference is between the old Israel and the new one. The old one had not received Holy Spirit in abundance as new one had. Falling in love in itself is not a sin. We have to discern with the help of the Holy Spirit whether a person whom we like is the chosen one for me or not. But those who are not mature enough to take decisions in sync with God's will, I would cetainly discourage them. Not because it is a sin, but there is a danger of messing up of lives, or going away from God. Like our dear Catholic Church, I will not be convinced that it is God's will unless I get clear signs from God; and at the same time would not like to conclude with prejudice that it is not God's will or it is a sin or not. "Everything is according to the law. But everything may not be useful". Love, Binu Asokan, Mumbai. From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [JOYnet] ON FALLING IN LOVE- ONCE AGAIN Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 02:34:20 -0600 Dear friends in Jesus, After seeing all the mails on falling in love Ive grown more wiser and broader in my outlook. Each of those who shared has got a unique dimension to bring out, this proves something- we serve a very creative God isnt it? Isnt it not beautiful that God made each one of us different and unique?. For me its truly wonderful! To know that each of us got no carbon copies or pirated versions! wow! Sounds great!!! I personally have learnt some tremendous lot thru this discussion that I hope will keep me in Good stead all the days of my life. As Jason rightly said, Joynet is a beautiful forum for all of us where we can share our views, experiences, what we feel as right or wrong etc. that is the way we learn and grow. Our Beloved Catholic Churchs attitude is the same. The Church respects contrary views and beliefs even though it doesnt subscribe to them. For over two thousand years our beloved church has kept on trying and investigating the truths on the anvil so as to ensure that they stand the test of time and are Truth. The Catholic church seeks Truth. So after all debates, contradictory viewpoints etc, the truth sought after, emerges. And that truth sets us free. Im sure all of us Joynetters are also seekers of the truth isnt it? Since thats true, after sharing all our views etc lets get back and see what is the Churchs stand on the aspect. I feel that will give a clear cut view and clarify any ambiguities. I sleuthed a bit in the CCC to see if I could get some nuggets of gold and this the closest I got. From the part on PASSIONS AND MORAL LIFE. CCC-1764: The passions are natural components of the human psyche; they form the passageway and ensure the connection between the life of the senses and the life of the mind. Our Lord called mans hear the source from with the passions spring. CCC-1765: There are many passions. The most fundamental passion is love, aroused by the attraction of the good. Love causes a desire for the absent good and the hope of obtaining it; this movement finds completion in the pleasure and joy of the good possessed. The apprehension of evil causes hatred, aversion, and fear of the impending evil; this movement ends in sadness at some present evil, or in the anger that resists it. CCC-1766: To love is to will the good of another. All other affections have their source in this first movement of the human heart toward the good. O
[JOYnet] Don't fall and get fractured
Dear Gigu, i forward it to u as my previous mails are not coming in joynet. tk seb This is my own story Before my marriage, one of my friends brought a proposal for me from Kuwait. She was also working here. We introduced each other, talked, understood each other etc. etc.. Then What? Next step is decision making, but before that discernment. I prayed to God, but didnt get any discernment (I didnt know the tricks of Dr.Sindhu). Then I made a suggestion, let us leave it for our parents to make the final decision, until that we will wait(I am also tricky know?). My discernment was this that God will speak through our parents. Later our parents started enquiries, discussions etc. and finally they disagreed each other for some silly reasons. Now we had two choices. (1) We are matured, have good jobs and can insist our parents to forget about the disagreements and to go ahead with wedding arrangements. Or (2) To obey our parents and keep our relationship as good friends. I selected the 2nd one (that was my discerning point) and called her to inform it. I was little bit scared because I didnt know her stand. But for my surprise, before I start, she was advising me to select the 2nd as she already selected it. You might be laughing, .as...wearefools. Am I right? But I would like to mention a few points. We were not lovers, means no commitments. So there was no disappointment also. I was well aware about Gods plans, though it was not clear for me. So no chance for any jumps or falls. Blessed are those who get married with the one selected by God for you. Blessed are those who wait and discern Gods plans before falling and get fractured. (Dont worry if anybody fractured already, Lord can repair even a fractured relationship) Sebastian Kuwait _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
RE: [JOYnet] Fasting Prayer for the month of March-03
Dear in Christ, The Holy Father has declared March 05 (Ash Wednesday), a day of Special Prayers and Fasting for the World Peace. Let us all join with the Holy Church and dedicate March 05 for this special intention. The message of Pope is given below: Pope Declares Ash Wednesday a Day of Prayer and Fasting for Peace March 5 to Be Set Aside Especially for the Middle East VATICAN CITY, FEB. 23, 2003 (Zenit.org).- John Paul II called for a day of prayer and fasting for peace, especially in the Middle East, to be observed on Ash Wednesday, March 5. "For months the international community has been living in great apprehension because of the danger of a war that might disturb the whole of the Middle East region and exacerbate the tensions that, unfortunately, are already present at the beginning of the millennium," the Pope said today, explaining the reasons for his decision. The Holy Father made this announcement before praying the midday Angelus with the crowds gathered in St. Peter's Square. "It is a duty of believers, regardless of the religion to which they belong, to proclaim that we will never be able to be happy if we are against one another; the future of humanity will never be able to be assured by terrorism and the logic of war," the Pope continued. "We Christians, in particular, are called to be like guardians of peace in the places where we live and work," he explained. "We are asked, that is, to be alert, so that consciences will not yield to the temptation to egoism, falsehood and violence." Because of this, the Pontiff invited "all Catholics to dedicate with special intensity next March 5, Ash Wednesday, to prayer and fasting for the cause of peace, especially in the Middle East." "Above all, let us implore God for the conversion of hearts and a generous view in just decisions to resolve with adequate and peaceful means the contests that hamper the pilgrimage of humanity in our time," he said. "In every Marian shrine an ardent prayer for peace will be raised to heaven with the praying of the holy rosary," the Pope added. "I trust that also in parishes and families the rosary will be prayed for this great cause on which the good of all depends." "This common invocation will be accompanied by fasting, expression of penance for the hatred and violence that contaminate human relations," John Paul II noted. "Christians share the ancient practice of fasting with many brothers and sisters of other religions, who in this way want to be despoiled of all pride and dispose themselves to receive from God the greatest and most necessary gifts, among which, in particular, is that of peace," the Holy Father stressed. The convocation to prayer and fasting is a continuation of the marathon of meetings and contacts undertaken by the Pope and his collaborators to avoid the outbreak of war against Iraq and to try to put an end to the violence in the Holy Land. In recent days John Paul II has received, among others, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz and German Foreign Affairs Minister Joschka Fischer, the current president of the U.N. Security Council. The Holy Father also sent Cardinal Roger Etchegaray to Iraq, to meet personally with Saddam Hussein and with the local Catholic community. love + prayers, Joseachayan / Jeddah / Saudi Arabia > --- Primeson James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Dear Friends in JOYnet > > > > > > I urge all of you to send your opinions / > > suggestions for our next fasting > > prayer of March first Friday. Some are already > > suggested to do on 03rd of > > March and what would be the intention(s). And > > request please post the final > > format of prayer atleast two days before on board. > > > > love > > primeson/dubai > > > > > = > == > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth > > mailing list. > > For more info on the list visit > > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > > To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe to the list visit > > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join > > In case of any issue related to the mailing list > > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > == > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE
[JOYnet] The Struggle Within
Dear Brothers and Sisters, Lets examine ourselves well before sending one more mail on the topic on falling in Love and associated sins. Lets not conclude in a self righteous manner that somebody will never fall if he/she has accepted Christ. When people came to stone the sinful person, Jesus told one simple thing that made the crowd realise that they too were sinners.They dispersed one after the other, the oldest first and then the rest. The clipping given below speaks about the way Apostle Paul faught sin. With lots of Christian love, Shaji Jose (Bangalore) --- --- The Struggle Within --- Romans 7:25 "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin." The Apostle Paul wrote the letter of Romans to the Christian believers in Rome and to Christians everywhere. In Romans 7:14 the Apostle Paul gives us a description of his nature, he writes; "The law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin." The Apostle Paul recognized that although he met the Lord on the road to Damascus and that he was called by God to preach the gospel, he was carnal and imperfect and still held in bondage to sin. As Christians, we sometimes think that we are above sin and can no longer sin, but Paul did not hold himself in that high regard. He knew the truth that even though we was converted on the road to Damascus he was still held under sin. He goes on to describe the struggle he constantly fought within himself as a believer. He writes in verse 15, "For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I." What the Apostle Paul was saying that as a believer he was still under the bondage of sin, for the sinful things that he knew he should not do where the very things that he would give into doing. And, the things that he knew he was suppose to do were the very things that he did not do. It was sin that the Apostle Paul hated, but it was sin that he often stumbled into. Then in verse 25 the Apostle Paul clarifies how he dealt with this situation. He states that it is with his mind that he served the law of God, but with the flesh he served the law of sin. Just because we have made a decision for Christ does not mean that we are above sin. Our body is still flesh, and flesh has a sinful nature. When we get to heaven we will receive transformed bodies that no longer are held to the law of sin. But until that day we will have to fight "The Struggle Within". As Christians we must press forward in our service for the Lord, just as the Apostle Paul did knowing that we are imperfect and will often stumble and fall into sin. When we fall, we need to do what the Apostle Paul did; pick ourselves up, dust off our clothes, and press onward in serving the Lord. With our minds we serve the Lord but with the body the law of sin. Just as the Apostle Paul thanked God for no longer seeing his sin, we too need to thank God every day for not seeing our sin. And, remember it is because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ upon the cross of Calvary that God no longer sees our sin. All our sin's, past, present, and future, are before God upon the mercy seat covered by the precious shed blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you Lord, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, that with my mind I can serve you even though my flesh is still sold under sin. Amen, and Amen!!! Father Alan R. Northam - __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] Love and Marriage (story)
Subject: Love and Marriage One day, Plato asked his teacher, "What is love? How can I find it?" His teacher answered, "There is a vast wheat field in front. Walk forward without turning back, and pick only one stalk. If you find the most magnificent stalk, then you have found love." Plato walked forward, and before long, he returned with empty hands, having picked nothing. His teacher asked, "Why did you not pick any stalk?" Plato answered, "Because I could only pick once, and yet I could not turn back. I did find the most magnificent stalk, but did not know if there were any better ones ahead, so I did not pick it. As I walked further, the stalks that I saw were not as good as the earlier one, so I did not pick any in the end. His teacher then said, "And that is love." On another day, Plato asked his teacher, "What is marriage? How can find it?" His teacher answered, "There is a thriving forest in front. Walk forward without turning back, and chop down only one tree. If you find the tallest tree, then you have found marriage." Plato walked forward, and before long, he returned with a tree. The tree was not thriving, and it was not tall either. It was an ordinary tree. His teacher asked, "Why did you chop down such an ordinary tree?" Plato answered, "Because of my previous experience. I walked halfway through the forest, but returned with empty hands. This time, I saw this tree, and I felt that it was not bad, so I chopped it down and brought it back. I did not want to miss the opportunity." His teacher then said, "And that is marriage." (Received from one of my friend) === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
[JOYnet] ON FALLING IN LOVE- ONCE AGAIN
Dear friends in Jesus, After seeing all the mails on falling in love Ive grown more wiser and broader in my outlook. Each of those who shared has got a unique dimension to bring out, this proves something- we serve a very creative God isnt it? Isnt it not beautiful that God made each one of us different and unique?. For me its truly wonderful! To know that each of us got no carbon copies or pirated versions! wow! Sounds great!!! I personally have learnt some tremendous lot thru this discussion that I hope will keep me in Good stead all the days of my life. As Jason rightly said, Joynet is a beautiful forum for all of us where we can share our views, experiences, what we feel as right or wrong etc. that is the way we learn and grow. Our Beloved Catholic Churchs attitude is the same. The Church respects contrary views and beliefs even though it doesnt subscribe to them. For over two thousand years our beloved church has kept on trying and investigating the truths on the anvil so as to ensure that they stand the test of time and are Truth. The Catholic church seeks Truth. So after all debates, contradictory viewpoints etc, the truth sought after, emerges. And that truth sets us free. Im sure all of us Joynetters are also seekers of the truth isnt it? Since thats true, after sharing all our views etc lets get back and see what is the Churchs stand on the aspect. I feel that will give a clear cut view and clarify any ambiguities. I sleuthed a bit in the CCC to see if I could get some nuggets of gold and this the closest I got. >From the part on PASSIONS AND MORAL LIFE. CCC-1764: The passions are natural components of the human psyche; they form the passageway and ensure the connection between the life of the senses and the life of the mind. Our Lord called mans hear the source from with the passions spring. CCC-1765: There are many passions. The most fundamental passion is love, aroused by the attraction of the good. Love causes a desire for the absent good and the hope of obtaining it; this movement finds completion in the pleasure and joy of the good possessed. The apprehension of evil causes hatred, aversion, and fear of the impending evil; this movement ends in sadness at some present evil, or in the anger that resists it. CCC-1766: To love is to will the good of another. All other affections have their source in this first movement of the human heart toward the good. Only the good can be loved. Passions are evil if love is evil and good if love is good. CCC-1767: in themselves passions are neither good nor evil. They are morally qualified only to the extent that they effectively engage reason and will. The passions are said to be voluntary, either because they are commanded by the will or because the will does not place obstacles in their way. It belongs to the perfection of the moral or human good that the passions be governed by reason. CCC-1768: Strong feelings are not decisive for the morality or the holiness of persons; they are simply the inexhaustible reservoir of images and affections in which the moral life is expressed. Passions are morally good when they contribute to a good action, evil in the opposite case. The upright will orders the movements of the senses it appropriates to the good and to beatitude; an evil will succumbs to disordered passions and exacerbates them. Emotions and feelings can be taken up into the virtues, or perverted by the vices. CCC- 1769: In the Christian life, the Holy Spirit himself accomplishes his work by mobilizing the whole being, with all its sorrows, fears and sadness, as is visible in the Lords agony and passion. In Christ human feelings are able to reach their consummation in charity and divine beatitude. And then I also got a bit on the section TO CHOOSE IN ACCORD WITH CONCIENCE CCC-1786: Faced with a moral choice, conscience can make either a right judgment in accordance with reason and the divine law or, on the contrary, an erroneous judgment that departs from them. CCC-1787: Man is sometimes confronted by situations that make moral judgments less assured ad decision difficult. But he must always seriously seek what is right and good and discern the will of God expressed in divine law. CCC-1788: To this purpose, man strives to interpret the data of experience and the signs of the times assisted by the virtue of prudence, by the advice of competent people, and by the help of the Holy Spirit and his gifts. CCC- 1789: Some rules apply in ever case: - One may never do evil so that good may result from it; - The golden rule: whatever you wish that med would do to you, do so to them - Charity always proceeds by the way of respect for ones neighbor and his conscience: Thus sinning against your brethren and wounding their conscience. you sin against Christ. Therefore it is right not to. do anything that makes your brother stumble (Rom. 14:21) If theres someone who is well versed with the teachin
[JOYnet] Delhi News
Dear friends. 1. We had a youth retreat in malayalam last week ( feb. 21to 24) and it was attended by around 80 participants. Team was from calicut. Lord has blessed the paticipants with pouring out Holysprit in a mighty way. 2. 10 days formation is going on with 30 paticipants. In the last 5 years this is the first time that 30 youth has come for attending 10 days trainning. Keep this programe in your prayer. commissioning is on 2nd march. 3. Shibi parish coordinatior and 1st batch fultimer got married on 23 feb to Mathew, is form delhi. 4. Jomon the present coordiantor is not well for the last 1 week . he is having fever. your valuable prayer is requested . Thanks Sunil Simon. DElhi, India. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus === This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===
