[JOYnet] Trinity-5
Dear friends,
I hope that by now you have gone through my last mail on Trinity and have
spent time dwelling on the truths mentioned there.
In this mail I will point out the various things mentioned about the Trinity
in the Scriptures and the CCC. I cannot give a detailed teaching as it will
take me pages to write, so what I will do is just point out some facts and its
up to each one to go through and meditate upon them, if you have questions I
shall be happy to answer them. (Please read the whole mail)
I would like to mention again that we must understand the fact that God
cannot be restricted to time and space he is above them.
1) In the Bible if we read Gen 1:26 " then God said, 'let US make
humankind..."(RSV): what I want to point out is the word US, its plural not
singular how come, I believe it has to be the Trinity. {shows that there are
more than one person in the Trinity}
2) CCC 233 "Christians are Baptized IN THE NAME of the Father and of the
Son and the Holy Spirit; NOT IN THEIR NAMES..." A very important observation
{shows that the Trinity is one}
3) CCC 253 : "The Trinity is ONE. We do not confess three gods, but one
God in three persons... The father is that which the Son is, the Son that
which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is,
i.e. by nature one God..
4) CCC 254 : "The divine persons are really distinct from one another...
He is not the Father who is the Son, nor the Son he who is the Father, nor is
the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son..
5) CCC 255 : " the divine persons are relative to one another...
Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the
HloySpirit ; the Son wholly in the Father and wholly in the HolySpirit ; the
HolySpirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son."
6) CCC 258 : ".. one God and Father FROM whom all things are, and one
Lord Jesus Christ THROUGH whom all things are, and one Holy Spirit IN whom all
things are."
So We believe in one God but three persons. In other words one NATURE but
three PERSONS.
Its as someone pointed out earlier, the example regarding, water, ice and
water vapour. By nature they are H2O but they are distinct from each other, is
water H2O? yes, is ice H2O? yes, is water vapour H2O? yes, are they same no..
Or if you have three candles lit in a room, how many light we have? We only
have one light but how many candles...
Or if we look at the usual fan in our houses, how many leafs do they have
three, but how many fans one. The fan is incomplete with out the three leafs,
the three together make one fan.
Its something like this also; Father is like honey in the flower, Jesus is
like the honey in the honey comb and Holy Spirit is like honey in the mouth.
(as I use these earthly examples I am well aware that these finite things are
not enough to compare to the infinite )
Everything originates from the Father, is brought to completion & actualised
by the Son, and reaches man, is present to and experienced by means of the
HolySpirit
The Four Statements about Trinity:
i) There is one divine nature and three persons
ii) No one is either of the other
iii) Father is God, Son is God, HolySpirit is God
iv) There is not three but one God
Please take time to dwell on these things if you are interested in Trinity
and I am sure that God who does not set any limits of us knowing him will
guide you in this journey.
Love and Prayers,
C.C.Joseph
May God Bless You
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Re: [JOYnet] Trinity ?????
there are a lot of examples about the Trinity 1.any plant, root-the Father, unseen God the stem & leaves-the Son,seen God the plant juice/sap-the spirit 2.electric system generator-the Father, unseen God electric wiring & equipments-the Son,seen God the electric current-the spirit the Father, unseen God God cares you. with prayers dr.jomon angamaly kerala india - Original Message - > george kuriakose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friends in Jesus, > > Thanks and Praises to the Holy Trinity > ---truncated This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Trinity-4
he cannot remember..our forgiven sins he cannot count .the time for our return to Him with lot of love & prayers dr.jomon angamaly - Original Message - From: C.C.Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Joynet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:53 PM Subject: [JOYnet] Trinity-4 > Haloo, > > Lets continue our discussion on the Trinity, though not many are > contributing.. > > > > ** Some of the things God cannot do !!! > > - God cannot change > > - He cannot learn > > - He cannot move (to move he has to be in one space at one time and > not in another, but he is everywhere so how can he move?) > > - He cannot improve > > - He cannot grow > > - He cannot ... you can add to this list > > > > > > ** God does not have existence, He is existence > > A wooden chair depends on the wood for existence, if there is no > wood, there is no chair. As the chair depends on the wood for existence in the > same way we depend on God for existence. How important. The one who gave me > existence, also needs to keep me in existence. > > > > ** God shares himself for intimacy; he sets no boundaries for us knowing him > > > > > > Please spend time dwelling on these truths and I am sure you will enjoy the > ride the Lord will take you to. > > > > Love and Prayers, > > C.C.Joseph > > > > May God Bless You > > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe to this mailing list, visit > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Trinity-4
Haloo, Lets continue our discussion on the Trinity, though not many are contributing.. Today we shall see some reflections on God, 1) God did not create me out of Need. He created me because He thought I enjoy life. 2) God created me to share in His own life - 2 Pet1:4 3) God does not know me because he created me. He created me because he knew me 4) God loves me as I am, not as I should be. ** We all know that God is Infinite (He is not very very big, or very very large, he is infinite) This is one of the reasons why Jesus had to come; When man a finite being committed an offence against the Infinite being, the offence was infinite. No amount of finite offerings could make up for this offence, there had to be an infinite offering, and that was Christ himself. ** God is above Time and Space (that's what I said in my previous mails, we should not limit God) Some one asked what was God doing before creation, and one answer was that He did nothing as He had no time, seems to be funny, but its true time came into existence only with creation there is no before or after for God, He is the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb 13:8) ** Some of the things God cannot do !!! - God cannot change - He cannot learn - He cannot move (to move he has to be in one space at one time and not in another, but he is everywhere so how can he move?) - He cannot improve - He cannot grow - He cannot ... you can add to this list ** God does not have existence, He is existence A wooden chair depends on the wood for existence, if there is no wood, there is no chair. As the chair depends on the wood for existence in the same way we depend on God for existence. How important. The one who gave me existence, also needs to keep me in existence. ** God shares himself for intimacy; he sets no boundaries for us knowing him Please spend time dwelling on these truths and I am sure you will enjoy the ride the Lord will take you to. Love and Prayers, C.C.Joseph May God Bless You This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Trinity- 3 ???
Haloo Friends, Hope that all are doing well, by the grace. In the last mail I had pointed out some facts that hinder our walk to God, hope that it was helpful. Today we will see what helps in our walk to God. 1) Grace : Knowing someone involves the effort of both the parties, i.e. the one who wants to know the other and the person who wishes to be known. In knowing the almighty we need His help more than anything else. We need His Grace, Faith and Love. 2) Intellect : God has given us an intellect with a purpose, it seems that there is a tendency to say that we should not use our intellect in matters related to faith. But what I believe is that we are created to know and love the Lord, in that case all that we have should be used to know him, even our intellect. 3) Flexibility : We must be open to new things. We have to trust God when he takes us beyond our imagination. 4) Prayer : To know a person we have to spend time with him, not just spend time only asking. Our prayer should be more of spending time with him to know him, rather that just asking him always. 5) Repentance : Approach him with a clean heart 6) Bible : What more can we have than the love letter he has written to us that is the Word. As we go through the word in prayers we will know more about him 7) Books : We should be open to the thoughts of others and often this is in the form of a book, spend time diligently reading books. 8) Think, Meditate, Study : We have to spend time to think, meditate and study. Please send your views. Love and Prayers, C.C.Joseph. May God Bless You This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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you too i'm a fan of suffering theory,if there is any other way,Jesus would have chosen that,to save mankind with lot of love & prayers dr.jomon angamaly - Original Message - From: Berly Earnest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Joynet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:02 AM Subject: [JOYnet] Trinity > Hello once again! > Now for a more recent topic. > I just completed reading Fr.Fio's ,'God's Best Ideas".I am putting in some > of the things that struck me: > From the beginning,FATHER God wanted us as His companions and that's why we > were created.He wants to do all things with us.Even when our first parents > sinned,He did not give up this idea.He could easily have put an end to Satan > then and there.But He chose to do it with man.He is depending on us to be > with Him in the ongoing battles against Satan.That's DIVINE-HUMAN > PARTNERSHIP. > > More than the physical pain, on the Cross,JESUS had to suffer > humiliation.The persons to be crucified were flogged thoroughly before they > were put on the Cross so that they would die quickly.The Cross was meant to > humiliate more than to cause physical pain.People around were insulting > Jesus.Some asked Him to come down if He were Christ.But He remained > silent.His self-emptying reached its climax when He asked the Father to > forgive them.The Cross to us ought to mean HUMILIATING, SELF-EMPTYING.We > carry our Cross daily as we forgive those who humiliate us. > > The HOLY SPIRIT wanted others to continue what Christ did and carry out > Father God's best idea.So He created the CHURCH,His best idea.It's upto us > to complete what is lacking in Christ's suffering.Christ's suffering was not > complete since He too wanted to carry out Father God's best idea of > divine-human partnership.If we suffer now,it is for a purpose. > > I highly recommend this book!! > Love & prayers, > Annie Berly/Cochi/India. > > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe to this mailing list, visit > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Trinity
Hello once again! Now for a more recent topic. I just completed reading Fr.Fio's ,'God's Best Ideas".I am putting in some of the things that struck me: >From the beginning,FATHER God wanted us as His companions and that's why we were created.He wants to do all things with us.Even when our first parents sinned,He did not give up this idea.He could easily have put an end to Satan then and there.But He chose to do it with man.He is depending on us to be with Him in the ongoing battles against Satan.That's DIVINE-HUMAN PARTNERSHIP. More than the physical pain, on the Cross,JESUS had to suffer humiliation.The persons to be crucified were flogged thoroughly before they were put on the Cross so that they would die quickly.The Cross was meant to humiliate more than to cause physical pain.People around were insulting Jesus.Some asked Him to come down if He were Christ.But He remained silent.His self-emptying reached its climax when He asked the Father to forgive them.The Cross to us ought to mean HUMILIATING, SELF-EMPTYING.We carry our Cross daily as we forgive those who humiliate us. The HOLY SPIRIT wanted others to continue what Christ did and carry out Father God's best idea.So He created the CHURCH,His best idea.It's upto us to complete what is lacking in Christ's suffering.Christ's suffering was not complete since He too wanted to carry out Father God's best idea of divine-human partnership.If we suffer now,it is for a purpose. I highly recommend this book!! Love & prayers, Annie Berly/Cochi/India. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Trinity???
Hi guys, just forwarding an earlier mail i had send on the subject of the Trinity. 1Tim3: 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (Jesus isGod manifest in the flesh) Col2: 8,9 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (In him (Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily) Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Rev 1:8-9 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 9. I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. (In the above 2 paragraphs of Scripture it is the Almighty, telling He is the first and the last and there is no other God; and also that He is Alpha and Omega) Rev 1:10-19 10. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11. Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12. And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 19. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; (Here likewise we have the Son as the Alpha and Omega; & also the first and the last) Isaiah 9:6,7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah's prophecy about the son specifically tells that Christ is the Mighty God) Hebrews 1:2-8 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. (The Father himself who had said 'Thu shalt not worship any other but me", and also that "Thou shalt not have other gods besides me" tells that angels will worship him (the Son) and the Father himself calls the Son as O God) Philipians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (every knee
[JOYnet] Trinity???
Hi guys, just forwarding an earlier mail i had send on the subject of the Trinity. 1Tim3: 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (Jesus isGod manifest in the flesh) Col2: 8,9 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (In him (Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily) Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Rev 1:8-9 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 9. I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. (In the above 2 paragraphs of Scripture it is the Almighty, telling He is the first and the last and there is no other God; and also that He is Alpha and Omega) Rev 1:10-19 10. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11. Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12. And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 19. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; (Here likewise we have the Son as the Alpha and Omega; & also the first and the last) Isaiah 9:6,7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah's prophecy about the son specifically tells that Christ is the Mighty God) Hebrews 1:2-8 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. (The Father himself who had said 'Thu shalt not worship any other but me", and also that "Thou shalt not have other gods besides me" tells that angels will worship him (the Son) and the Father himself calls the Son as O God) Philipians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (every knee
Re: [JOYnet] Trinity ?????
Hi Joynetters... A few months back during the Jehovah's Witness controversy I had shared a few thoughts on how do we understand the concept of trinity Also i had shared some examples of trinity available in nature around us... If creation can have trinitarian aspect, why cant the creator... the examples are as follows.. 1)the clover leaf (3 different leaves of same size, still forming one leaf) 2) the Shamrock leaf(shamrock is the symbol of ireland) 3) the equilateral triangle(3 different equal angles, yet making one united figure ) 4) a piece of melting ice( if u observe a piece of melting ice ... u will see solid-ice, liquid-water, and gas-vapour all at the same time..it is in 3 different states but it is still the same substance we call water...) and all these states ice,water, vapour can also exist on their own... you can have only ice,only water and only vapour alsoyet we see all three together at one given moment of time... Same way with the Holy trinity (we have 3 persons ,the Father, Son and Holy Spirit .Yet they have one nature- the divine nature...). Also we experience in our lives that they function independently as well as together...We see the gifts , fruits and Charisms of the Holy Spirit working in our lives as a sign that the Holy spirit is truly with us.. There are many who feeling sad and lonely.. maybe feeling the need of a father figure...and they have felt the warm embrace which only our ABBA can give us.. Yes it is true that the Bible doesnt tell us directly about the Holy Trinity... But it is not meant to tell us everything about everything... Some of us Christians use the Bible as a Textbook... exam study guide, excuse and reason book...Sort of an all-purpose book During the days when the Bible was written, this question about what is the trinity...its technical composition... etc was not relevant... hence there is no mention of this question and many other such contemporary topics ... Almost all of the new testament is actually a response and a set of practical solutions for problems and issues of faith existing at that time..also an exhortation for people to keep their faith strong and their hopes alive... Let us remember that the Bible was written and compiled by the Church and the Church was formed much before the Bible could be compiled.. Thus the Bible is a sort of Handbook of the church which puts forth what the church believes and accepts as the word of God..But it doesnt stop at that It teaches us that the Lord still speaks to the church and guides the church..Which is evident in the Traditions of the church and also in the various pronouncements and encyclicals put forth by the church. The Dogma of the Holy Trinity is the core truth on which the church is based... It is the Centre of any Christian belief... It is not necessary to understand/see to believe...We wont be able to understand anyway..Has anyoone understood God.? Love and Prayers Ravi Mumbai george kuriakose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friends in Jesus, Thanks and Praises to the Holy Trinity Well this is really interesting.In very simple terms It becomes very easy to understand this if we stop thinking that God,The Holy Trinity ,is like a human being or like a Man.God is God and not a human being.There are 3 persons in God and Only the second person in the Holy Trinity became Man who is our Lord Jesus and revealed the "Mystery of Holy Trinity" ,died in the cross so that all generations who repent upon their sins and turn to God, shall get a chance to enter the Kingdom of God. Thanks to the Lord for his Infinite Mercies George --- "C.C.Joseph" wrote: > Haloo Friends, > The Holy Trinity- what is it all about ?? > > In the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) we > read, " Trinity is the > central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is > the mystery of God in > Himself. It is therefore the source of all the other > mysteries" (article > 234). > > Now how many of us know the Trinity well ? > > I think we have an inhibition that a MYSTERY is a > secret and not to be > understood. Well I don't agree to this viewpoint, I > believe a Mystery is an > Invitation to Know. Now I don't believe in a God who > will say "see boy there > is a thing called trinity now I will keep it as a > secret". If it is to be a > secret why at all should He reveal this to us? > Whenever God reveals something > He does it, I believe, with the intention of His > children knowing Him more. > > Is it not that Love wants to Know and to be known? > > In CCC-158 "faith seeks understanding a believer > desires to know better > the one in whom he has put his faith." > > As we all know that we are called to Know and to > Love God, I think we Love > God a lot, but do we Know Him, as someone said we > only know about Him. We have > to know Him, if so we must try to understand the > central mystery of our faith > - Trinity. I am not claiming that we will > understand it in totality, but at > le
Re: [JOYnet] Trinity ?????
Dear friends in Jesus, Thanks and Praises to the Holy Trinity Well this is really interesting.In very simple terms It becomes very easy to understand this if we stop thinking that God,The Holy Trinity ,is like a human being or like a Man.God is God and not a human being.There are 3 persons in God and Only the second person in the Holy Trinity became Man who is our Lord Jesus and revealed the "Mystery of Holy Trinity" ,died in the cross so that all generations who repent upon their sins and turn to God, shall get a chance to enter the Kingdom of God. Thanks to the Lord for his Infinite Mercies George --- "C.C.Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haloo Friends, > The Holy Trinity- what is it all about ?? > > In the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) we > read, " Trinity is the > central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is > the mystery of God in > Himself. It is therefore the source of all the other > mysteries" (article > 234). > > Now how many of us know the Trinity well ? > > I think we have an inhibition that a MYSTERY is a > secret and not to be > understood. Well I don't agree to this viewpoint, I > believe a Mystery is an > Invitation to Know. Now I don't believe in a God who > will say "see boy there > is a thing called trinity now I will keep it as a > secret". If it is to be a > secret why at all should He reveal this to us? > Whenever God reveals something > He does it, I believe, with the intention of His > children knowing Him more. > > Is it not that Love wants to Know and to be known? > > In CCC-158 "faith seeks understanding a believer > desires to know better > the one in whom he has put his faith." > > As we all know that we are called to Know and to > Love God, I think we Love > God a lot, but do we Know Him, as someone said we > only know about Him. We have > to know Him, if so we must try to understand the > central mystery of our faith > - Trinity. I am not claiming that we will > understand it in totality, but at > least we can start this journey to Know our master. > > So my friends why not take this Invitation from out > Lord to know Him more and > start a discussion about the Trinity? > > I will surely put in all that I have read, listened > and understood about this > invitation from the Lord (Trinity-mystery). > > Hoping that many will contribute their > understanding about Trinity, and > enrich all. > > > > With Love and Prayers, > > C.C.Joseph > > May God Bless You > > > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth > mailing list. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe to this mailing list, visit > http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet > For automatic help, send a mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case of any issue related to the mailing list > contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to this mailing list, visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet For automatic help, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
