[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
On 16/04/2007, at 7:36 PM, fambizzari wrote:
However, I am trying to add an additional $(document).ready(function()
{}); in the middle of the document (i.e. inline) but it is not working
and i don't know why.
Does it work if you move the inline $(document).ready(function(){});
into the head element? I can't think of a situation where you would
need it in the body, but I could be wrong. You can have as many $
(document).ready(function(){});s as you want so I'd say your problem
must have to do with having it inline.
Joel.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
Thanks for the help.
Moving into the head does work, but keeping it inline doesn't.
Can jQuery be used inline?
Fam
Joel Birch wrote:
On 16/04/2007, at 7:36 PM, fambizzari wrote:
However, I am trying to add an additional $(document).ready(function()
{}); in the middle of the document (i.e. inline) but it is not working
and i don't know why.
Does it work if you move the inline $(document).ready(function(){});
into the head element? I can't think of a situation where you would
need it in the body, but I could be wrong. You can have as many $
(document).ready(function(){});s as you want so I'd say your problem
must have to do with having it inline.
Joel.
.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
On 16/04/2007, at 8:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can jQuery be used inline? jQuery can be used inline (maybe not the 'document ready' function it seems though). However, one of the cool things about jQuery is that due to the strength of its selector engine (using CSS to target elements etc.) it is easy to use unobtrusive javascript which provides many benefits over inline javascript and is worth getting into the habit of doing by default. Have fun. Joel.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
You should be able to use jQuery inline, but you might want to ask yourself
WHY you want to use it inline. The power of jQuery is that it can affect
EVERY part of the document from just one spot. I'd recommend rethinking your
code so as to remove the need for inline JS.
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Thanks for the help.
Moving into the head does work, but keeping it inline doesn't.
Can jQuery be used inline?
Fam
Joel Birch wrote:
On 16/04/2007, at 7:36 PM, fambizzari wrote:
However, I am trying to add an additional $(document).ready(function()
{}); in the middle of the document (i.e. inline) but it is not working
and i don't know why.
Does it work if you move the inline $(document).ready(function(){}); into
the head element? I can't think of a situation where you would need it in
the body, but I could be wrong. You can have as many $
(document).ready(function(){});s as you want so I'd say your problem must
have to do with having it inline.
Joel.
.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
Can jQuery be used inline? It definitely can be. My guess is you're running into an error. Are you using any JS debuggers to help you out. Firebug for Firefox is highly recommended. MS also has a script debugger for IE--but it's not as intuitive as Firebug. -Dan
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
On 16/04/2007, at 11:34 PM, Dan G. Switzer, II wrote: PS - This really isn't addressed to Andy, just a general note. Sometimes we developers get too stuck on following golden rules and we end up making our code harder to work with. So if you find you have to go to long lengths to code a corner case to a golden rule, just always think if the end pay off is worth it. Ok, don't with my mini-rant. ;) Yes there are always exceptions, which is I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the one ones that apply here, so thanks for your input Dan.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
Sniff sniff... I'll just go play on the Prototype mailing list now. -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan G. Switzer, II Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:34 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling You should be able to use jQuery inline, but you might want to ask yourself WHY you want to use it inline. The power of jQuery is that it can affect EVERY part of the document from just one spot. I'd recommend rethinking your code so as to remove the need for inline JS. While that is generally the best practice, there are exceptions for every rule. The one place I do use inline JavaScript is when I'm leverage jQuery for server-side component helpers (for example, Custom Tags in CF.) In this case, my jQuery code is generally outputted after the DOM element is created. While not ideal, it makes it much easier to encapsulate all my code into one helper function in my server-side code. Having all your JS business logic in one place, definitely makes debugging and modifying code easier, but there are times when inline code makes sense. -Dan PS - This really isn't addressed to Andy, just a general note. Sometimes we developers get too stuck on following golden rules and we end up making our code harder to work with. So if you find you have to go to long lengths to code a corner case to a golden rule, just always think if the end pay off is worth it. Ok, don't with my mini-rant. ;)
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
:) I'm always amazed how much an emoticon can affect the meaning of a message. I sent a sarcastic message to a friend once--which was the norm for us, but left off the ;) emoticon. He got really upset with me (he was having a bad day as it was.) The fact that I forgot the emoticon made him probably go from laughing to be upset.
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
However, I am trying to add an additional $(document).ready(function()
{}); in the middle of the document (i.e. inline) but it is not working
and i don't know why.
I don't believe that you're going to find behavior chained. Doing so
raises the interesting question of does your second function get
inserted before or after the existing chain, and if you are fairly
determined it should be one way, there's a dozen other people who can
reason why it should be the other.
The way I've been able to resolve this mentally is to consider that
each DOM's element handler has a single behavior associated with it.
When you invoke jQuery, you're patching that behavior handler.
Consider the case where you might have a button on the screen that
handles an onClick() event. However, depending on some state, you
might want that button's behavior to change. If you were simply
appending to handler chain, things could get really hairy. Instead,
the solution is just to replace it.
Now, note, this is not a bad thing. There is nothing at all that
prevents your .ready()'s anonymous function from walking through an
array of functions. Effectively, doing a for-each like invocation on
everything. That would allow you to register, in-line as you please,
additional functions, and at the end of it the ready() function would
do it's thing.
In short, make your function do the work, as you'll find the other
libraries do the same thing. You can get the intended behavior, which
is to have one re-usable function who's job is to execute all the
things you ask it to.
-wls
[jQuery] Re: New to jQuery and struggling
On Apr 16, 2:36 pm, Joel Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes there are always exceptions, which is I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the one ones that apply here, so thanks for your input Dan. I use JS/jQuery inline when I'm working on a dynamic PHP site with an included header and footer for example. I don't want to be including the jquery library or code on every single page of a site - or adding extra logic in my templates - when it's only needed for a few pages.
