Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
From: Shawn sgro...@open2space.com Karl said it best - we can't please everyone. Unless someone were to sit down and write a tool to integrate/synch a forum (Zoho in particular And he is right. Unfortunately the ones that will be unpleased and will have even more accessibility issues as before are exactly some people with disabilities that already have many enough issues using a computer. Octavian
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
But each time you want to post a new message, you will need to go to the forum, login, and then try to sent the message, which I don't even know how accessible it is, because friendly it is not for sure. While for sending an email I just need to press Control+N in OE and I can start typing the message. So the forum is definitely much less accessible and friendly. Octavian - Original Message - From: John Arrowwood jarro...@gmail.com To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums Silly thought: What if the forums were 'published' to the mailing list, and the mailing list were made read-only? That is, every time a post is published on the forum, it is automatically sent to the mailing list. Then, in the footer of the message is a link to reply to the post, which when clicked takes you to the forum in such a way that the user can immediately reply to that post. The mailing list could be set up so that nobody except the forum 'bot' could post to it, which would make spam go away. People that have accessibility issues or just prefer to get their information via their email client could continue to read things that way. And you would have all of the benefits of the forum. Best of both worlds. Make everybody happy. I know it would make me happier. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.comwrote: From: MorningZ morni...@gmail.com Besides, as Richard pointed out, the mailing list right here will still exist, it just won't be moderated/managed by the people it was before.. That would be good, because at least for a period there would still be an accessible source of information for JQuery. Octavian -- John Arrowwood John (at) Irie (dash) Inc (dot) com John (at) Arrowwood Photography (dot) com John (at) Hanlons Razor (dot) com -- http://www.irie-inc.com/ http://arrowwood.blogspot.com/
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
From: MorningZ morni...@gmail.com Besides, as Richard pointed out, the mailing list right here will still exist, it just won't be moderated/managed by the people it was before.. That would be good, because at least for a period there would still be an accessible source of information for JQuery. Octavian
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
Silly thought: What if the forums were 'published' to the mailing list, and the mailing list were made read-only? That is, every time a post is published on the forum, it is automatically sent to the mailing list. Then, in the footer of the message is a link to reply to the post, which when clicked takes you to the forum in such a way that the user can immediately reply to that post. The mailing list could be set up so that nobody except the forum 'bot' could post to it, which would make spam go away. People that have accessibility issues or just prefer to get their information via their email client could continue to read things that way. And you would have all of the benefits of the forum. Best of both worlds. Make everybody happy. I know it would make me happier. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.comwrote: From: MorningZ morni...@gmail.com Besides, as Richard pointed out, the mailing list right here will still exist, it just won't be moderated/managed by the people it was before.. That would be good, because at least for a period there would still be an accessible source of information for JQuery. Octavian -- John Arrowwood John (at) Irie (dash) Inc (dot) com John (at) Arrowwood Photography (dot) com John (at) Hanlons Razor (dot) com -- http://www.irie-inc.com/ http://arrowwood.blogspot.com/
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, John Arrowwood jarro...@gmail.com wrote: What if the forums were 'published' to the mailing list, and the mailing ... The mailing list could be set up so that nobody except the forum 'bot' could post to it, which would make spam go away. People that have accessibility issues or just prefer to get their information via their email client could continue to read things that way. And you would have all of the benefits of the forum. Oo! Man with a plan.
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
Do not close the email list Do not close the email list Do not close the email list Do not close the email list Do not close the email list - Original Message - From: Nathan Klatt n8kl...@gmail.com To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, John Arrowwood jarro...@gmail.com wrote: What if the forums were 'published' to the mailing list, and the mailing ... The mailing list could be set up so that nobody except the forum 'bot' could post to it, which would make spam go away. People that have accessibility issues or just prefer to get their information via their email client could continue to read things that way. And you would have all of the benefits of the forum. Oo! Man with a plan.
Re: [jQuery] Re: New Forums
And if you were using a screen reader, and had need to post a question to the mailing list? Then you'd still need to deal with the web page/forums. Your solution is a good step in the right direction, but does not solve the problems. I've looked into integrating a forum and mailing list in the past. Unless something has changed in the past couple of years, there is no good solution. What is needed is a way to keep a mailing list and forum in sync. Messages sent to the mailing list are automagically posted in the forums, with the conversation threads being maintained. Messages posted to the forums are automagically posted to the mailing list. The closest I've ever seen for this is the forums where you can elect to receive an email if a watched topic is posted to. Or if someone replies to you or a topic that you had previously replied to. While this is somewhat workable, it still looses all the benefits of an email list - you still have to go to the web page to view/respond to messages. And visiting the web page is not part of the normal routine for a number of people. Karl said it best - we can't please everyone. Unless someone were to sit down and write a tool to integrate/synch a forum (Zoho in particular in this case) and the mailing list (Google Groups in this case). I don't forsee that happening anytime soon. My thoughts. Shawn John Arrowwood wrote: Silly thought: What if the forums were 'published' to the mailing list, and the mailing list were made read-only? That is, every time a post is published on the forum, it is automatically sent to the mailing list. Then, in the footer of the message is a link to reply to the post, which when clicked takes you to the forum in such a way that the user can immediately reply to that post. The mailing list could be set up so that nobody except the forum 'bot' could post to it, which would make spam go away. People that have accessibility issues or just prefer to get their information via their email client could continue to read things that way. And you would have all of the benefits of the forum. Best of both worlds. Make everybody happy. I know it would make me happier. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com mailto:orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: MorningZ morni...@gmail.com mailto:morni...@gmail.com Besides, as Richard pointed out, the mailing list right here will still exist, it just won't be moderated/managed by the people it was before.. That would be good, because at least for a period there would still be an accessible source of information for JQuery. Octavian -- John Arrowwood John (at) Irie (dash) Inc (dot) com John (at) Arrowwood Photography (dot) com John (at) Hanlons Razor (dot) com -- http://www.irie-inc.com/ http://arrowwood.blogspot.com/
