Antw: RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian Millies

Hi, 

the problem I'm experiencing (I'm the OP) seems a different one, although
it may be related, of course.

1. I'm not accessing the root context (with or without trailing slash)

2. I'm using JRun 26414 on the ReadHat box where the problem occurs.
I suppose this build includes the mentiones patch.

3. I'm using the patched version of JRun 16777 on NT where the problem
does not occur.

4. It can't be I step on other people's session because I made sure I was
the only person accessing the server at the time, and I opened only one
browser session.

5. It's not a caching problem - all happens in our LAN.

6. I'll work on Mike Collins' suggestion to test if an incoming jsessionid gets bound 
to the wrong httpsession object. One other thing I'll look for is that maybe
the binding happens too late, so that all user's would share the same session
for their firstv request, and only then get the proper session. Could that happen?

7. Perhaps this is relevant: I am not using any calls to invalidate sessions or 
   setMaxInactiveInterval(-1) in code.


Best,
Sebastian



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27.03.2002  18.40 Uhr 
So are you saying that the patch for this does not work?  Or people do not know about 
it?

Please see this URL:
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=22260Method=Full 

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: michael veit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 
 
 not the problem - this is on an intranet - no proxy. all our 
 pages carry that header as well. This bug is documented and 
 reproduced by Macromedia:
  Jrun Bug 24049 - It is possible to get a duplicate session 
 id during multi-user use of Jrun if the user browses to a 
 Jrun Web application root directory without using a trailing slash.
   Haseltine, Celeste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, 
 
 Good point. All of our web pages carry the header below. 
 Perhaps that is
 why we have not experienced this problem.
 
 response.setHeader(Pragma,no-cache); //HTTP 1.0 refetch 
 completely next
 time document is
 needed.
 response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-cache); //HTTP 1.1
 response.setDateHeader (Expires, 0); //prevents caching at the proxy
 server, refetches ONLY if it
 has been modified since last fetch
 response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-store); //HTTP 1.1
 
 
 Celeste
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Will Berger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:38 AM
 To: JRun-Talk
 Subject: RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue
 
 
 I am coming late to this thread, but I thought I would give 
 you my 2 cents.
 We ran into this problem sometime ago where it appeared to be 
 a jrun bug
 that caused sessions to get mixed up, turned out to be that 
 the new client
 that we signed up had a proxy caching server and our jsp were 
 being cached.
 Adding the
 
 response.addHeader(Pragma, No-cache);
 response.addHeader(Cache-Control, no-cache);
 response.addDateHeader(Expires, 1);
 
 This resolved the issue.
 
 Will
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:01 AM
 To: JRun-Talk
 Subject: Re: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue
 
 
 Some ideas on troubleshooting this issue:
 
 I can think of 3 reasons why someone can get the wrong session data:
 1. your jsessionid cookie somehow gets reset during the 
 session to another
 valid session
 2. when your session is initialized you step on someone 
 else's httpsession
 object
 3. requests with an incoming jsessionid gets bound to the 
 wrong httpsession
 object
 
 Some ideas on troubleshooting the above scenarios:
 - upon the creation of a new session, record the jsessionid in the
 httpsession object.
 - if a value already exists you know that you have just hit #2
 - on all subsequent requests validate the jsessionid with the 
 value on the
 httpsession object. If they are not equal you know the 
 problem is 1 or 3.
 
 If you add these lines of code I would think you have a 
 pretty good chance
 at isolating and stopping folks from getting the wrong 
 session. I would
 also hope it might lead us to a resolution.
 
 My gut tells me it is number 3, the others seem like they would have
 revealed themselves by now.
 
 Regards,
 Mike

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RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue

2002-03-28 Thread michael veit

The patch did not work. 

--- Scott Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So are you saying that the patch for this does not
 work?  Or people do not know about it?
 
 Please see this URL:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=22260Method=Full
 
 Scott
 
  -Original Message-
  From: michael veit
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  
  not the problem - this is on an intranet - no
 proxy. all our 
  pages carry that header as well. This bug is
 documented and 
  reproduced by Macromedia:
   Jrun Bug 24049 - It is possible to get a
 duplicate session 
  id during multi-user use of Jrun if the user
 browses to a 
  Jrun Web application root directory without using
 a trailing slash.
Haseltine, Celeste [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: Will, 
  
  Good point. All of our web pages carry the header
 below. 
  Perhaps that is
  why we have not experienced this problem.
  
  response.setHeader(Pragma,no-cache); //HTTP
 1.0 refetch 
  completely next
  time document is
  needed.
  response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-cache);
 //HTTP 1.1
  response.setDateHeader (Expires, 0); //prevents
 caching at the proxy
  server, refetches ONLY if it
  has been modified since last fetch
  response.setHeader(Cache-Control,no-store);
 //HTTP 1.1
  
  
  Celeste
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Will Berger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:38 AM
  To: JRun-Talk
  Subject: RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue
  
  
  I am coming late to this thread, but I thought I
 would give 
  you my 2 cents.
  We ran into this problem sometime ago where it
 appeared to be 
  a jrun bug
  that caused sessions to get mixed up, turned out
 to be that 
  the new client
  that we signed up had a proxy caching server and
 our jsp were 
  being cached.
  Adding the
  
  response.addHeader(Pragma, No-cache);
  response.addHeader(Cache-Control, no-cache);
  response.addDateHeader(Expires, 1);
  
  This resolved the issue.
  
  Will
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Collins
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:01 AM
  To: JRun-Talk
  Subject: Re: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue
  
  
  Some ideas on troubleshooting this issue:
  
  I can think of 3 reasons why someone can get the
 wrong session data:
  1. your jsessionid cookie somehow gets reset
 during the 
  session to another
  valid session
  2. when your session is initialized you step on
 someone 
  else's httpsession
  object
  3. requests with an incoming jsessionid gets bound
 to the 
  wrong httpsession
  object
  
  Some ideas on troubleshooting the above scenarios:
  - upon the creation of a new session, record the
 jsessionid in the
  httpsession object.
  - if a value already exists you know that you have
 just hit #2
  - on all subsequent requests validate the
 jsessionid with the 
  value on the
  httpsession object. If they are not equal you know
 the 
  problem is 1 or 3.
  
  If you add these lines of code I would think you
 have a 
  pretty good chance
  at isolating and stopping folks from getting the
 wrong 
  session. I would
  also hope it might lead us to a resolution.
  
  My gut tells me it is number 3, the others seem
 like they would have
  revealed themselves by now.
  
  Regards,
  Mike


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Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Verma_Dilip

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.ja
va:194)
at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.ja
va:177)
at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:3
39)
at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at sun.rmi.transport.Transport.serviceCall(Transport.java:148)
at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.handleMessages(TCPTransport.java:465)
at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$ConnectionHandler.run(TCPTransport.java:7
06)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
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Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Ben Groeneveld

What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin 
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of 
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.  BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.ja
va:194)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.ja
va:177)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:3
39)
   at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
   at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
   at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
   at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport.serviceCall(Transport.java:148)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.handleMessages(TCPTransport.java:465)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$ConnectionHandler.run(TCPTransport.java:7
06)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

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RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Verma_Dilip

Ya, I am using Oracle's thin driver. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin 
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of 
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.  BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:194)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:177)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:
3
39)
   at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
   at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
   at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
   at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport.serviceCall(Transport.java:148)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.handleMessages(TCPTransport.java:465)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$ConnectionHandler.run(TCPTransport.java:
7
06)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)


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RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Verma_Dilip

Hi,
I am using clobs and nested tables but I am also using oracle implementation
of those.
I am getting this error on prepared statement.


-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:26 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Are you using a datatypes like blobs or clobs?  I've been doing some testing
lately with those datatypes and unless you used Oracle's implementation
would get that same error.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:51 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Ya, I am using Oracle's thin driver. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin 
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of 
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.  BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:194)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:177)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:
3
39)
   at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
   at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
   at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
   at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport.serviceCall(Transport.java:148)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.handleMessages(TCPTransport.java:465)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$ConnectionHandler.run(TCPTransport.java:
7
06)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)




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load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)

2002-03-28 Thread charles arehart

Celeste, you say:

 We haven't seen this problem, not yet anyway.  But our servers
 are not under
 much of a load yet, as our site is just getting off the ground.  We expect
 that to change over the next three to four months.  If we do run into the
 same problem, I suspect that will be the final straw for the owner of this
 facility, and he too will decide to go with another JSP/Servlet
 server.

I'm curious if you're considering load testing before just waiting to see
what happens. Indeed, I'd like to open this discussion to a broader one of
whether people do use load testing tools, especially if they do anticipate a
growth in load. Or is the feeling that they're too expensive or cumbersome.

Perhaps people can share their experiences with any load testing tools,
indicating as well if the relative costs and challenges in using them.
Perhaps they can also clarify their own load requirements: clearly someone
with a commercial, clustered site with hundreds of thousands of hits per day
will have different needs (and preferences) over someone with a smaller
organization (or intranet) site getting hundreds of hits per day.

Still, for issues like this one being discussed, just simulating many per
second in a load testing tool could identify a problem that might otherwise
not crop up until later. As Celeste says, better to know about it sooner
than later. A testing tool seems of more value to people than they seem to
give it credit.

What are the facets that stop people from using them? Cost? Complexity? Lack
of awareness? Choosing among many alternatives? Hopefully this thread will
at least help us on the list get a better idea of what options make sense
for our varying needs, and we can pass along our discoveries to others, and
so on.

/charlie

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RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)

2002-03-28 Thread Haseltine, Celeste

Charlie, 

I would love to use some load testing tools, and I have gone to the mat with
both the owner and my boss (the VP) to try and purchase some.  But you have
to keep in mind that most companies are really on tight budgets right now,
and some smaller IT groups such as this one are having to make do with
either free testing tools/shareware that is out on the internet, or open
source tools via Sun/Jakarta.  The company I am currently working with is a
small manufacturer, who has a very narrow profit margin on the products he
produces.  He is in a niche market, but because he has such a narrow profit
margin, and because the owner is close to retirement (he is 60), he is
extremely reluctant to spend any money.  In fact, the only reason he hired
me was that some of his biggest clients told him that if he did not
institute a web ordering system, they would consider taking their business
to his competition.  Even though the owner really dislikes computers, the
threat by his larger clients caught his attention and he is now being
forced into the web age kicking and screaming all the way.  

Bottom line, both he and the VP say they want to take their chances on when
the site would go down and under what load conditions.  I've tried to
convince them that when your revenue is being generated via a web site, this
is NOT the way you want to find coding errors and/or other problems, but I
have not been successful in that endeavor yet.  They feel that most of their
customers will not actually use the site, and they do not intend to
advertise it's existing in order to keep the traffic down.  The concept that
someone might just spam their site for the hell of it, and cause the site
to crash, doesn't concern at this time.

If you do find other freebie testing tools, I would be interested in the
names/links.

Celeste

 

-Original Message-
From: charles arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:53 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)


Celeste, you say:

 We haven't seen this problem, not yet anyway.  But our servers
 are not under
 much of a load yet, as our site is just getting off the ground.  We expect
 that to change over the next three to four months.  If we do run into the
 same problem, I suspect that will be the final straw for the owner of this
 facility, and he too will decide to go with another JSP/Servlet
 server.

I'm curious if you're considering load testing before just waiting to see
what happens. Indeed, I'd like to open this discussion to a broader one of
whether people do use load testing tools, especially if they do anticipate a
growth in load. Or is the feeling that they're too expensive or cumbersome.

Perhaps people can share their experiences with any load testing tools,
indicating as well if the relative costs and challenges in using them.
Perhaps they can also clarify their own load requirements: clearly someone
with a commercial, clustered site with hundreds of thousands of hits per day
will have different needs (and preferences) over someone with a smaller
organization (or intranet) site getting hundreds of hits per day.

Still, for issues like this one being discussed, just simulating many per
second in a load testing tool could identify a problem that might otherwise
not crop up until later. As Celeste says, better to know about it sooner
than later. A testing tool seems of more value to people than they seem to
give it credit.

What are the facets that stop people from using them? Cost? Complexity? Lack
of awareness? Choosing among many alternatives? Hopefully this thread will
at least help us on the list get a better idea of what options make sense
for our varying needs, and we can pass along our discoveries to others, and
so on.

/charlie


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RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)

2002-03-28 Thread Theodore Zimmerman

Celeste,
Microsoft has a stress test tool that you can download for free.  See the following KB 
article:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=21951Method=Full

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:15 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)


Charlie, 

I would love to use some load testing tools, and I have gone to the mat with
both the owner and my boss (the VP) to try and purchase some.  But you have
to keep in mind that most companies are really on tight budgets right now,
and some smaller IT groups such as this one are having to make do with
either free testing tools/shareware that is out on the internet, or open
source tools via Sun/Jakarta.  The company I am currently working with is a
small manufacturer, who has a very narrow profit margin on the products he
produces.  He is in a niche market, but because he has such a narrow profit
margin, and because the owner is close to retirement (he is 60), he is
extremely reluctant to spend any money.  In fact, the only reason he hired
me was that some of his biggest clients told him that if he did not
institute a web ordering system, they would consider taking their business
to his competition.  Even though the owner really dislikes computers, the
threat by his larger clients caught his attention and he is now being
forced into the web age kicking and screaming all the way.  

Bottom line, both he and the VP say they want to take their chances on when
the site would go down and under what load conditions.  I've tried to
convince them that when your revenue is being generated via a web site, this
is NOT the way you want to find coding errors and/or other problems, but I
have not been successful in that endeavor yet.  They feel that most of their
customers will not actually use the site, and they do not intend to
advertise it's existing in order to keep the traffic down.  The concept that
someone might just spam their site for the hell of it, and cause the site
to crash, doesn't concern at this time.

If you do find other freebie testing tools, I would be interested in the
names/links.

Celeste

 

-Original Message-
From: charles arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:53 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)


Celeste, you say:

 We haven't seen this problem, not yet anyway.  But our servers
 are not under
 much of a load yet, as our site is just getting off the ground.  We expect
 that to change over the next three to four months.  If we do run into the
 same problem, I suspect that will be the final straw for the owner of this
 facility, and he too will decide to go with another JSP/Servlet
 server.

I'm curious if you're considering load testing before just waiting to see
what happens. Indeed, I'd like to open this discussion to a broader one of
whether people do use load testing tools, especially if they do anticipate a
growth in load. Or is the feeling that they're too expensive or cumbersome.

Perhaps people can share their experiences with any load testing tools,
indicating as well if the relative costs and challenges in using them.
Perhaps they can also clarify their own load requirements: clearly someone
with a commercial, clustered site with hundreds of thousands of hits per day
will have different needs (and preferences) over someone with a smaller
organization (or intranet) site getting hundreds of hits per day.

Still, for issues like this one being discussed, just simulating many per
second in a load testing tool could identify a problem that might otherwise
not crop up until later. As Celeste says, better to know about it sooner
than later. A testing tool seems of more value to people than they seem to
give it credit.

What are the facets that stop people from using them? Cost? Complexity? Lack
of awareness? Choosing among many alternatives? Hopefully this thread will
at least help us on the list get a better idea of what options make sense
for our varying needs, and we can pass along our discoveries to others, and
so on.

/charlie



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RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Theodore Zimmerman

Verma,
In what scenarios do you get this problem.  Is it on inserts or selects or both?  

Does it happen all the time?  If so is there a way to reproduce the problem.

Does JRun continue to work properly after the problem occurs?  Have you tried it 
without connection pooling?  I know you indicated previously that this didn't happen 
when you used JRun's pooling.  The problem may very well have to do with the 
connection pooling classes that you are using.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:35 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Hi,
I am using clobs and nested tables but I am also using oracle implementation
of those.
I am getting this error on prepared statement.


-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:26 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Are you using a datatypes like blobs or clobs?  I've been doing some testing
lately with those datatypes and unless you used Oracle's implementation
would get that same error.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:51 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Ya, I am using Oracle's thin driver. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin 
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of 
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.  BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:194)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:177)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:
3
39)
   at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
   at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
   at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
   at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport.serviceCall(Transport.java:148)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.handleMessages(TCPTransport.java:465)
   at
sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$ConnectionHandler.run(TCPTransport.java:
7
06)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)





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RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Verma_Dilip

Dear Zimmerman,
The problem does not occur always. It happens once in a while. I have seen
this problem 2-3 times but I am unable to figure out it's basic nature. When
I get a conneciotn from the pool and try to call a prepared statement on
that then it problem occurs, but not always. I got this error this morning
when I tried to login in the system, which further get login info from the
database. There is a possibility that our network was down for few minutes
but it was back soon. May that causes that error. I am attaching my
connectio pooling classes. Check out if you can find anything wrong.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:33 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Verma,
In what scenarios do you get this problem.  Is it on inserts or selects or
both?  

Does it happen all the time?  If so is there a way to reproduce the problem.

Does JRun continue to work properly after the problem occurs?  Have you
tried it without connection pooling?  I know you indicated previously that
this didn't happen when you used JRun's pooling.  The problem may very well
have to do with the connection pooling classes that you are using.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:35 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Hi,
I am using clobs and nested tables but I am also using oracle implementation
of those.
I am getting this error on prepared statement.


-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:26 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Are you using a datatypes like blobs or clobs?  I've been doing some testing
lately with those datatypes and unless you used Oracle's implementation
would get that same error.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:51 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Ya, I am using Oracle's thin driver. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin 
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of 
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.  BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database. 
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000. 
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write
error
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
   at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:194)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j
a
va:177)
   at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:
3
39)
   at
com.emc.asi.ejb.pool.ASIConnection.prepareStatement(ASIConnection.java:61)
   at com.emc.asi.ejb.LoginBean.processLogin(LoginBean.java:48)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
allaire.ejipt._BeanMethod._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_BeanMethod.java:166)
   at
allaire.ejipt._SessionObject._invoke(allaire/ejipt/_SessionObject.java:182)
   at
allaire.ejipt._CallableObject.call(allaire/ejipt/_CallableObject.java:101)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
   at
sun.rmi.server.UnicastServerRef.dispatch(UnicastServerRef.java:241)
   at sun.rmi.transport.Transport$1.run(Transport.java:152)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native 

Migration tool

2002-03-28 Thread Barry Charles

Hello.

This is my first time posting here.  I just wanted to let people know that JRun 4.0 
comes with a migration tool.  It will migrate JRun 3.x servers, apps, and 
configuration settings over to 4.0.  Just type migrate your_jrun3x_root from the bin 
directory of JRun 4.0.  You'll still have to do some configuring yourself, and the 
tool won't change your code, but it will take care of alot of the basics for you.  So 
please, give it a try, and let me know what you think.  Thanks.

Barry Charles
JRun QA
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RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error

2002-03-28 Thread Daniel . Broadway

We were getting this problem (Connection reset by peer: socket write error)
consistently when our application was under a pretty heavy load.  We
attributed the problem to the bitmechanic JDBC connection pool that we were
using at the time (we never looked into exactly what was wrong with the
pool).  We switched to the PoolMan JDBC connection pool and the problem
went away.



P.S.  We aren't using the JRun connection pool because we need to use our
connection pool outside of JRun.




[EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/28/2002 03:53 PM





Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:JRun-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Dear Zimmerman,
The problem does not occur always. It happens once in a while. I have seen
this problem 2-3 times but I am unable to figure out it's basic nature.
When
I get a conneciotn from the pool and try to call a prepared statement on
that then it problem occurs, but not always. I got this error this morning
when I tried to login in the system, which further get login info from the
database. There is a possibility that our network was down for few minutes
but it was back soon. May that causes that error. I am attaching my
connectio pooling classes. Check out if you can find anything wrong.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:33 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Verma,
In what scenarios do you get this problem.  Is it on inserts or selects or
both?

Does it happen all the time?  If so is there a way to reproduce the
problem.

Does JRun continue to work properly after the problem occurs?  Have you
tried it without connection pooling?  I know you indicated previously that
this didn't happen when you used JRun's pooling.  The problem may very well
have to do with the connection pooling classes that you are using.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:35 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Hi,
I am using clobs and nested tables but I am also using oracle
implementation
of those.
I am getting this error on prepared statement.


-Original Message-
From: Theodore Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:26 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Are you using a datatypes like blobs or clobs?  I've been doing some
testing
lately with those datatypes and unless you used Oracle's implementation
would get that same error.

Ted Zimmerman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:51 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


Ya, I am using Oracle's thin driver.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: Re: Connection reset by peer: socket write error


What's JRun's Oracle driver?  Have you tried using oracle's free thin
driver?  We use oracle JDBC driver-8.1.6.2.0 on a large variety of
projects and operations w/o a hiccup.  Maybe trying it will help you.
BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I am getting the following error while accessing the database.
I have JRun 3.1.15506 app server running on win2000 and NT both, and using
oracle database. Instead of using JRun's connection pool for oracle I am
using my own connection pool. The system works fine most of the times but
all of a sudden it starts giving Connection reset by peer. I didn't have
this problem when I was using JRun's Oracle thin driver connection pool
before. But for migrating reasons I started using my own connection pool.
Sometimes when I query the database using preparedStatement, it throws the
below exception. I am seeing the same exception both on NT and win2000.
Please tell what might the reason behind.
Thanks
_
_

Thu Mar 28 10:13:31 EST 2002
Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: Connection reset by peer: socket
write
error
 at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:114)
 at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:156)
 at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:269)
 at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:292)
 at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleStatement.init(OracleStatement.java:307)
 at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j

a
va:194)
 at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement.init(OraclePreparedStatement.j

a
va:177)
 at
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.prepareStatement(OracleConnection.java:

3
39)
 at

RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)

2002-03-28 Thread Dave Watts

 If you do find other freebie testing tools, I would be 
 interested in the names/links.

Take a look at OpenSTA:
http://www.opensta.org/

It's open-source, and free, and looks pretty good. I haven't used it for an
actual testing engagement yet (I'm used to SilkPerformer) but it looks like
it covers all the bases pretty well.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Will Jrun 4.0 support HTTPS?

2002-03-28 Thread Zhang, Shengtong, ALCAS

Hi All,

I would like to get rid of Netscape Enterprise Server and use Jrun alone, but Jrun 3.1 
doesn't
support HTTPS? Does any of you know whether JRun 4.0 will support HTTPS?

Thanks,
Shengtong Zhang
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Re: Will Jrun 4.0 support HTTPS?

2002-03-28 Thread Bin Zhou

I am not 100% sure but if you use Jrun, you can connect it to a web
server(IIS, Apache etc) which supports HTTPS as the web front end. Jrun can
be used as the application server. I believe this is a preferred way of
laying out the servers.

Bin

- Original Message -
From: Zhang, Shengtong, ALCAS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JRun-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Will Jrun 4.0 support HTTPS?


 Hi All,

 I would like to get rid of Netscape Enterprise Server and use Jrun alone,
but Jrun 3.1 doesn't
 support HTTPS? Does any of you know whether JRun 4.0 will support HTTPS?

 Thanks,
 Shengtong Zhang
 
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Re: Will Jrun 4.0 support HTTPS?

2002-03-28 Thread Nilesh Chand

You could use apache for your WebServer and use the JRun apacahe connector for 
comunication between apache and JRun. This way clients would connect into
the WebServer through HTTPS and all communications between apache and JRun will be 
through the connector.

Hope this helps.
Zhang, Shengtong, ALCAS wrote:

 Hi All,

 I would like to get rid of Netscape Enterprise Server and use Jrun alone, but Jrun 
3.1 doesn't
 support HTTPS? Does any of you know whether JRun 4.0 will support HTTPS?

 Thanks,
 Shengtong Zhang
 
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RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)

2002-03-28 Thread charles arehart

Yep, Dave and Ted have ID'ed the two most popular free tools I know of. So
cost isn't really the issue, once one knows of these. It's more just a
matter of deciding that the effort's worthwhile. Sounds like in your case,
Celeste, that the bosses really just aren't motivated to worry about
testing. That's the part I want to address. What do we, as professionals, do
(and know, and say) to promote more effective testing (load and otherwise).
What's really keeping it from being more prominent? Just some rhetorical
questions. If there are no replies, I'll know it's the sound of one hand
clapping. :-)

/charlie

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:06 PM
 To: JRun-Talk
 Subject: RE: load testing (was RE: Difficult To Reproduce Session Issue)


  If you do find other freebie testing tools, I would be
  interested in the names/links.

 Take a look at OpenSTA:
 http://www.opensta.org/

 It's open-source, and free, and looks pretty good. I haven't used
 it for an
 actual testing engagement yet (I'm used to SilkPerformer) but it
 looks like
 it covers all the bases pretty well.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 
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