Problems Getting Started with JSP 1.0 RI (was: Re: JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release)
JSPers, We are very, very sorry for the difficulty in ease-of-use in this release of JSP. The team is closely monitoring the list and will be fixing the problems as quickly as possible. Please stay tuned and we'll have something to you shortly after JavaOne. Thanks for the support this group has given to those just getting started on JSP. With improvements to usability, we hope the list can stay as one forum that is useful for all participants. Thanks, Connie > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:11:33 -0700 > From: Vincent Roderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release > Comments: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Connie, > > I'm hoping that you can forward this email to the appropriate people. If > you are on this mailing list, I'm sure you have a pretty good idea where the > install instructions have gone wrong and where things can be improved. > > This really is in Sun's best interest to improve the JSP site, as I'm sure > that you would love to see JSP dwarf ASP (and hence sell more servers). But > to do this, you need developer's to learn it and endorse it. For each x > amount of developer's that download the JSP implementation, a certain % of > those won't get it working because the install instructions aren't complete > and will give up. Others will find that there really aren't any great > tutorials and books on the subjectWhat a wasted opportunity...It's less > likely that those developer's will come back. My point is not to try to > criticize but to encourageThink of things from a marketing point of > view. (The ASP tutorial is very straight forward and any Joe Blow can get > it running quicklyWith JSP, you better come to the interest list or > you're SOL...) > > Also, this mailing list is transforming into a forum of "how do I get > started." Awhile back, Lastname Firstname (just joshin') suggested two > distribution lists, one for more advanced discussions. Maybe you want to > consider this as more users begin to hear about the 1.0 release and flood > the mailing list. I've noticed the more advanced users on this list have > been silent as "newby" mail has been overwhelming. Since I am in the > "newby" stage as well, I don't mind the email, but the more technical > discussions seem to be absent. > > Thanks for your time, > Rick > === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Re: JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release
Yes, we realized this would be a good thing to do, but couldn't get the content in place in time for the launch. It's one of the first updates we will do with the site. Thanks, Connie > From: "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Connie Weiss'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:16:15 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Congrats! One immediate thought for the web page would be some external > links to resources this community has established, such as Richard Vowles > FAQ page. > > Dan > > > -- > > From: Connie Weiss[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Reply To: Connie Weiss > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 9:06 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release > > > > We are more than pleased to let you know that JavaServer Pages 1.0 is > > now in public release and is officially launched! > > > > Yeah > > > > Below is the press release for your reading pleasure. Also, please > > stop by java.sun.com to check our our front page blurb, and be sure to > > visit > > the full, new website at java.sun.com/products/jsp. > > > > We are delighted and proud of the huge support we have for this > > technology, > > from dedicated developers like yourselves to the wide-range of industry > > players. > > > > We think there's something for everyone in this new website. We'll be > > keeping > > it up-to-date with new information and will post to the list when > > something > > we think will be of interest to you gets posted. Also, let us know your > > ideas > > for content you'd like to see covered that may not yet be there. > > > > *Thank you* for your insight and support! We couldn't have done it without > > you! > > > > The JavaServer Pages Team > > > > > > -- > > > > > > SUN UNVEILS JAVASERVER PAGES (TM) TECHNOLOGY > > > > Sun announces the immediate availability of JavaServer Pages (TM) > > technology, which for the first time allows Web page developers to > > easily build cross-platform, truly interactive Web sites. > > > > Harnessing the full power of the Java(TM) platform, JavaServer Pages > > technology separates the functions of content generation and page > > layout, providing developers with a simplified and more efficient way > > to create server-generated Web pages that combine content from a wide > > variety of enterprise data sources. Because JavaServer Pages technology > > encapsulates much of the functionality required to generate "dynamic," > > or constantly changing, content, Web page developers can concentrate on > > the "look" and display of the site without the need for application > > development expertise. > > > > Developed in collaboration with industry leaders in the enterprise > > software and tools markets (see quote addendum for industry support), > > the JavaServer Pages technology is available for free download beginning > > today. An early access reference implementation is available via the > > Java Developer Connection(SM) program, or, for more information, users > > can access http://java.sun.com/products/jsp. > > > > For more information please contact Matthew Hutchison at 408-517-7049 or > > at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > == > > = > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the > > body > > of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > > === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release
We are more than pleased to let you know that JavaServer Pages 1.0 is now in public release and is officially launched! Yeah Below is the press release for your reading pleasure. Also, please stop by java.sun.com to check our our front page blurb, and be sure to visit the full, new website at java.sun.com/products/jsp. We are delighted and proud of the huge support we have for this technology, from dedicated developers like yourselves to the wide-range of industry players. We think there's something for everyone in this new website. We'll be keeping it up-to-date with new information and will post to the list when something we think will be of interest to you gets posted. Also, let us know your ideas for content you'd like to see covered that may not yet be there. *Thank you* for your insight and support! We couldn't have done it without you! The JavaServer Pages Team -- SUN UNVEILS JAVASERVER PAGES (TM) TECHNOLOGY Sun announces the immediate availability of JavaServer Pages (TM) technology, which for the first time allows Web page developers to easily build cross-platform, truly interactive Web sites. Harnessing the full power of the Java(TM) platform, JavaServer Pages technology separates the functions of content generation and page layout, providing developers with a simplified and more efficient way to create server-generated Web pages that combine content from a wide variety of enterprise data sources. Because JavaServer Pages technology encapsulates much of the functionality required to generate "dynamic," or constantly changing, content, Web page developers can concentrate on the "look" and display of the site without the need for application development expertise. Developed in collaboration with industry leaders in the enterprise software and tools markets (see quote addendum for industry support), the JavaServer Pages technology is available for free download beginning today. An early access reference implementation is available via the Java Developer Connection(SM) program, or, for more information, users can access http://java.sun.com/products/jsp. For more information please contact Matthew Hutchison at 408-517-7049 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Repost: JSP 1.0 specification is now in Public Review!
reposting reply to Daniel's message - don't know what happened to the ened to the first one... - Yes, the "blurb" on java.sun.com being worked right now - we wanted to get everything pushed first, then do the splash on the site. BTW, the specification is in public review for 30 days. Once the public review is complete, we'll review and incorporate feedback as we can, then it will be posted as final (FCS). The JSP team will then move directly to working on the 1.1 specification to further flesh out the JSP story. Hope this helps. Connie > From: "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Connie Weiss'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: The JSP 1.0 Specification is now in Public Review! > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:55:58 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Connie, > > Terrific news! > > Other than this announcement, will we see JSP get some news exposure on the > http://java.sun.com/ home page or "What's New?" page? JSP always seems to > be so buried at the Java site which doesn't help get it more exposure. > > Dan > -- > Daniel Kirkdorffer > Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC > Web: http://www.syllogistics.com/ > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Re: JSP 1.0 Early Access Reference Implementation...
> X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:04:35 -0400 > From: Christopher Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: JSP 1.0 Early Access Reference Implementation... > Comments: To: "Anil K. Vijendran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Anil K. Vijendran" wrote: > > > ... is available now at: > > http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/earlyAccess/jsp. > > > > Note that this is an early access release and we intend following this > > up with other releases that move it towards 100% compliance with the 1.0 > > specification. > > Has anyone tried this yet? > Does it have it's own JSDK 2.1 web server? Yes, it does. Connie > > cc > === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Re: The JSP 1.0 Specification is now in Public Review!
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The JSP 1.0 Specification is now in Public Review!
This is the message you've been waiting for and we've been most anxious is the message you've been waiting for and we've been most anxious to send out: the JSP 1.0 specification is now available for public review. You can downloaded the specification via: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp The reference implementation will follow very shortly, and we'll let you know as soon as it is available (even sooner than "real soon now" :). Thanks to everyone who has hung in there and supported us as we put this together. We look forward to receiving comments from all our JSP partners. as JSP partners. The JSP Team === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
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Had trouble posting yesterday, seeing if today is any better... Connie === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Your Feedback is Important!
Hi again! For those of you who have already completed the survey, we appreciate your time and input. We've gotten a great initial response... For those of you who have not yet completed it, we urge you to take 10-15 minutes now to give us your feedback. We've extended the deadline until Friday, end of day. http://www.service.com/jsp/survey.htm Go for it! Thanks, Connie === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
The JSP team needs your help!
To anyone who has used the JSP .92 spec: As you know, we are working hard on JSP 1.0 as well as subsequent releases of JSP. We'd like to get your insight regarding our efforts. We'd appreciate it if you could take 10-15 minutes in the next few days (before Thursday, February 25th) to complete the following JSP questionnaire. We assure complete confidentiality. http://www.service.com/jsp/survey.htm Your feedback is extremely valuable to us, and who knows, you might get some free PR out of it! Sincerely, Connie Weiss Engineering Manager JavaServer Pages === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Re: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN?
The next specification will be a 1.0 candidate. That means that we believe we have enough confidence in the specification in its development so far (.92 and earlier releases) to propose this one as a final candidate, pending public comment. So, yes, you can consider this to be a 1.0 beta as you wrote below since it will be open for public comment. Connie > From: "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Connie Weiss'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN? > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:21:17 -0800 > > Connie, > > Thanks for responding. Can you clarify one thing concerning what you wrote: > will the next spec be a final 1.0 spec or a beta 1.0 spec? If there is to > be a public comment period I'm assuming 1.0 beta. Correct? > > Dan > > > -- > > From: Connie Weiss[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Reply To: Connie Weiss > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 3:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN? > > > > Dan, > > > > First of all, I apologize for not being able to keep up with all the mail > > that is posted on this list. After my posting, I did, and continue to, > > respond > > to every message that has been sent to me directly. Most of the comments I > > > > received were positive. Some were concerned that we were coming out late. > > > > What I can assure you is that we are working with everything we've got to > > get this specification ready for public commment. That is when you, the > > developer community, will be able to review and give us your full > > feedback. > > While we do monitor this list, we are not able to respond to every post. > > Again, it is a trade off between this and getting what you really want, > > the specification and reference implementation, out the door. > > > > We do value your input and look forward to receiving your comments as soon > > as > > we can get to you a specification that we think will help you in the work > > you are doing. > > > > Hang with us, we think you'll like what's coming... > > > > Connie > > > > > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:04:05 -0800 > > > From: "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN? > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Back on Feb 11th, Connie Weiss provided us with an update of where > > things > > > were with respect to JSP 1.0. > > > > > > Since then a number of us have openly expressed concern with her > > posting, > > > particularly with how long the process was taking. > > > > > > My question is how exactly did/does SUN interact with people commenting > > on > > > the specs? Has anyone here ever received any feedback on their > > feedback? > > > > > > Personally, I think that blatantly ignoring legitimate email is rather > > rude, > > > yet that's the impression I'm getting from the lack of response we have > > > received from Connie, or her co-workers, concerning our requests for > > > information. > > > > > > Is it just me or do others feel this way? > > > > > > Dan > > > -- > > > Daniel Kirkdorffer > > > Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC > > > Web: http://www.syllogistics.com/ > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > == > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the > > body > > > of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > > === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
Re: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN?
Dan, First of all, I apologize for not being able to keep up with all the mail that is posted on this list. After my posting, I did, and continue to, respond to every message that has been sent to me directly. Most of the comments I received were positive. Some were concerned that we were coming out late. What I can assure you is that we are working with everything we've got to get this specification ready for public commment. That is when you, the developer community, will be able to review and give us your full feedback. While we do monitor this list, we are not able to respond to every post. Again, it is a trade off between this and getting what you really want, the specification and reference implementation, out the door. We do value your input and look forward to receiving your comments as soon as we can get to you a specification that we think will help you in the work you are doing. Hang with us, we think you'll like what's coming... Connie > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:04:05 -0800 > From: "Kirkdorffer, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: What kind of dialog do developers really have with SUN? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Back on Feb 11th, Connie Weiss provided us with an update of where things > were with respect to JSP 1.0. > > Since then a number of us have openly expressed concern with her posting, > particularly with how long the process was taking. > > My question is how exactly did/does SUN interact with people commenting on > the specs? Has anyone here ever received any feedback on their feedback? > > Personally, I think that blatantly ignoring legitimate email is rather rude, > yet that's the impression I'm getting from the lack of response we have > received from Connie, or her co-workers, concerning our requests for > information. > > Is it just me or do others feel this way? > > Dan > -- > Daniel Kirkdorffer > Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC > Web: http://www.syllogistics.com/ > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > === > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
