Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer
Dude - you must get the expensive ENTERPRISE EDITION of Jbuilder to get the JSP debugging feature. Jbuilder 4 was released prematurely in my estimation. 1) help system lacks the servlet API 2) lots of debugging quirks.JSP debugger only runs on Tomcat 3.1 and is pretty slow. 3) powerful SQL extension classes, but no documentation for using them best to wait for 4.1 -Original Message- From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Khurram Sardar Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer Hello Sir, You have JBuilder 3.5 EE. Which means that you have purchased it. How do you feel about JBuilder 4.0 Foundation Edition. Have you tried it does it provide any good features for JSP, I am damn sure the IDE of JBuilder 4.0 is really great. If you can tell me some it will be of real great help to me. Why don't you try Forte for Java, every one is talking high about it everyone thinks it is more than enough. Some people are talking about its registered Enterprise Edition being available also. Best Regards, Khurram Sardar ABN AMRO Global IT Systems W Paul Waits [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/10/2000 08:56:44 PM Please respond to A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Khurram Sardar/PK/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer I use JBuilder 3.5 Enterprise Ed. which comes with the Inprise Application Server (IAS). I like the JBuilder IDE and the IAS interface, but give IAS a "B -" grade. IAS with JBuilder 3.5 uses Servlet 2.0 and JSP 0.92 APIs. without providing free upgrades. The "new" IAS that ships with JBuilder 4.0 uses Servlet 2.1 and JSP 1.0 APIs without any means of free upgrades. The FREE J2EE server uses Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 APIs. What difference does this make? If your using a servlet with "RemoteDispatcher" and other newer J2EE commands, IAS won't recognize the method(s) and you WASTE lots of time trying to figure out what the heck is going on. Debugging JSP's using JBuilder/Inprise is a good idea; however, Inprise needs to provide much better server upgrade support before I will consider them for a commercial installation. I would appreciate other people's opinion regarding Application Servers: Tomcat, JRun 3.0, etc. I can't find anything written that contrasts the various servers (high end commercial with EJB/Transaction support versus Tomcat, etc.) I'm using JBuilder with the J2EE server and things work much better. The only issues I have dealt with J2EE server is figuring out how to set the configuration, use the deployment tool and understand the security management features "read/write" access of files handled with its Server.policy file. Documentation for J2EE Server beginners is poor in my opinion. W. Paul Waits |+- || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || bnamro.com | || | || 11/10/00 03:56 AM | || Please respond to | || JSP-INTEREST | || | |+- - --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Paul Waits/Enron Communications) | | Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool | - --| Hello Mr. Mio Nino P. Marquez, Thanks a lot for such a helpful information but can you please tell me whether it is possible to get an evaluation version of JBuilder 4. I checked a few days ago and evaluation version of JBuilder 3.5 was available. Also what do you think regarding one feature of JBuilder, integration with other tools. I unerstand JBuilder is a full fulledge server side development product on its own. But what if I am developing my bussiness logic in Visual Age and would like to develop presentation and web layer in JBuilder. I will be waiting for your reply. Best Regards, Khurram ABN AMRO Global IT Systems Mio Nino Marquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/06/2000 07:11:31 PM Please respond to A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Khurram Sardar/PK/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool Khurram, We went to the product launch of JBuilder 4 recently and was really impressed with it. The JBuilder 4 Enterprise edition allows you to do Servlet / JSP debugging... this includes stepping th
Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer
Hello Sir, You have JBuilder 3.5 EE. Which means that you have purchased it. How do you feel about JBuilder 4.0 Foundation Edition. Have you tried it does it provide any good features for JSP, I am damn sure the IDE of JBuilder 4.0 is really great. If you can tell me some it will be of real great help to me. Why don't you try Forte for Java, every one is talking high about it everyone thinks it is more than enough. Some people are talking about its registered Enterprise Edition being available also. Best Regards, Khurram Sardar ABN AMRO Global IT Systems W Paul Waits [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/10/2000 08:56:44 PM Please respond to A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Khurram Sardar/PK/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer I use JBuilder 3.5 Enterprise Ed. which comes with the Inprise Application Server (IAS). I like the JBuilder IDE and the IAS interface, but give IAS a "B -" grade. IAS with JBuilder 3.5 uses Servlet 2.0 and JSP 0.92 APIs. without providing free upgrades. The "new" IAS that ships with JBuilder 4.0 uses Servlet 2.1 and JSP 1.0 APIs without any means of free upgrades. The FREE J2EE server uses Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 APIs. What difference does this make? If your using a servlet with "RemoteDispatcher" and other newer J2EE commands, IAS won't recognize the method(s) and you WASTE lots of time trying to figure out what the heck is going on. Debugging JSP's using JBuilder/Inprise is a good idea; however, Inprise needs to provide much better server upgrade support before I will consider them for a commercial installation. I would appreciate other people's opinion regarding Application Servers: Tomcat, JRun 3.0, etc. I can't find anything written that contrasts the various servers (high end commercial with EJB/Transaction support versus Tomcat, etc.) I'm using JBuilder with the J2EE server and things work much better. The only issues I have dealt with J2EE server is figuring out how to set the configuration, use the deployment tool and understand the security management features "read/write" access of files handled with its Server.policy file. Documentation for J2EE Server beginners is poor in my opinion. W. Paul Waits |+- || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || bnamro.com | || | || 11/10/00 03:56 AM | || Please respond to | || JSP-INTEREST | || | |+- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Paul Waits/Enron Communications) | | Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool | ---| Hello Mr. Mio Nino P. Marquez, Thanks a lot for such a helpful information but can you please tell me whether it is possible to get an evaluation version of JBuilder 4. I checked a few days ago and evaluation version of JBuilder 3.5 was available. Also what do you think regarding one feature of JBuilder, integration with other tools. I unerstand JBuilder is a full fulledge server side development product on its own. But what if I am developing my bussiness logic in Visual Age and would like to develop presentation and web layer in JBuilder. I will be waiting for your reply. Best Regards, Khurram ABN AMRO Global IT Systems Mio Nino Marquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/06/2000 07:11:31 PM Please respond to A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Khurram Sardar/PK/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool Khurram, We went to the product launch of JBuilder 4 recently and was really impressed with it. The JBuilder 4 Enterprise edition allows you to do Servlet / JSP debugging... this includes stepping through codes, modify variable values etc. It's expensive though. vbg But you can have the Pro albeit without JSP / Servlet debugging capabilities. g For other stuffs, you may want to check this out: JSP for Code Jockeys http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2639151,00.html Mio Nino P. Marquez Senior Analyst Programmer Apsilon Technologies Pte Ltd Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DID : (65) 6613219 - Original Message - From: "Khurram Sardar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: Best JSP Tool Hello Everyone, Does any one know that which one is the best JSP tool o
Re: Best JSP Tool - JBuilder 3.5/4.0 and Inprise AppServer
I use JBuilder 3.5 Enterprise Ed. which comes with the Inprise Application Server (IAS). I like the JBuilder IDE and the IAS interface, but give IAS a "B -" grade. IAS with JBuilder 3.5 uses Servlet 2.0 and JSP 0.92 APIs. without providing free upgrades. The "new" IAS that ships with JBuilder 4.0 uses Servlet 2.1 and JSP 1.0 APIs without any means of free upgrades. The FREE J2EE server uses Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 APIs. What difference does this make? If your using a servlet with "RemoteDispatcher" and other newer J2EE commands, IAS won't recognize the method(s) and you WASTE lots of time trying to figure out what the heck is going on. Debugging JSP's using JBuilder/Inprise is a good idea; however, Inprise needs to provide much better server upgrade support before I will consider them for a commercial installation. I would appreciate other people's opinion regarding Application Servers: Tomcat, JRun 3.0, etc. I can't find anything written that contrasts the various servers (high end commercial with EJB/Transaction support versus Tomcat, etc.) I'm using JBuilder with the J2EE server and things work much better. The only issues I have dealt with J2EE server is figuring out how to set the configuration, use the deployment tool and understand the security management features "read/write" access of files handled with its Server.policy file. Documentation for J2EE Server beginners is poor in my opinion. W. Paul Waits |+- || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || bnamro.com | || | || 11/10/00 03:56 AM | || Please respond to | || JSP-INTEREST | || | |+- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Paul Waits/Enron Communications) | | Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool | ---| Hello Mr. Mio Nino P. Marquez, Thanks a lot for such a helpful information but can you please tell me whether it is possible to get an evaluation version of JBuilder 4. I checked a few days ago and evaluation version of JBuilder 3.5 was available. Also what do you think regarding one feature of JBuilder, integration with other tools. I unerstand JBuilder is a full fulledge server side development product on its own. But what if I am developing my bussiness logic in Visual Age and would like to develop presentation and web layer in JBuilder. I will be waiting for your reply. Best Regards, Khurram ABN AMRO Global IT Systems Mio Nino Marquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/06/2000 07:11:31 PM Please respond to A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Khurram Sardar/PK/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject: Re: Best JSP Tool Khurram, We went to the product launch of JBuilder 4 recently and was really impressed with it. The JBuilder 4 Enterprise edition allows you to do Servlet / JSP debugging... this includes stepping through codes, modify variable values etc. It's expensive though. vbg But you can have the Pro albeit without JSP / Servlet debugging capabilities. g For other stuffs, you may want to check this out: JSP for Code Jockeys http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2639151,00.html Mio Nino P. Marquez Senior Analyst Programmer Apsilon Technologies Pte Ltd Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DID : (65) 6613219 - Original Message - From: "Khurram Sardar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: Best JSP Tool Hello Everyone, Does any one know that which one is the best JSP tool other than notepad. AS per my knowledge Tools like JBuilder are really good at it. Please share your knowledge of JSP tools with me also if anyone know about some web site giving benchmarks on comparisons of JSP tools. I think it will be helful to all of us and solve many of tool dependent problems. Waiting for your interest Khurram Junior System Analyst Programmer _ Disclaimer: "This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system." === To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html
