[JPP-Devel] JUMP in Italiano
Hello Paolo, (NB: before you start, let's hear form this mailing list if anyone has got a translation of openjump in Italian...) please find attached the files you need. You only need to translate the values as: # original datasource.DataSourceQueryChooserDialog.format=Format: # italiano datasource.DataSourceQueryChooserDialog.format=Formato: (I've attached an English and a German version; two versions make it easier to tranlate - as I know you speak German) When you're finished, you can sen the file to me so I can upload it. Thanks in advance, Ugo Paolo Viskanic wrote: Hallo Ugo, wie gestern in Berlin besprochen würde ich dich bitten mir die XML Datei von JUMP zu schicken, damit ich die Übersetzungen ins Italienische machen kann. Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Paolo Viskanic == R3 GIS Srl - GmbH Via Johann Kravogl 2 I-39012 Merano (BZ) Tel. +39 0473 494949 Fax +39 0473 069902 http://www.r3-gis.com -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 184960 fax ++49 +228 1849629 http://www.lat-lon.dehttp://www.deegree.org - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] R: Kurzer dienstweg (comment on disablingSaveDatasetAsFile)
Stefan: Yes, I have tried the SISDB plugIn but you can not save a table yet :-( I did not have the time yet to add the saving part... But I also don't know how to add it... The SISDB plugin is a Datastore, so you can add a layer through the Layers/Add Dataset menu. But *JUMP doesn't define any interface for a writing Datastore, so I should create my own Save As menu for that, but I don't know if that would really be a good idea... Bye Paolo Rizzi Uwe From: Stefan Steiniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] Kurzer dienstweg (comment on disabling SaveDatasetAsFile) mhm.. actually i planned to disable SaveDatasetAsFile .. but i have not yet thought about the automated generation of the file suffixes .. tricky having two (3) Save options in the popup menu is a bit odd. the best way actually would be if one could store to postgis with the new datastore framework, by adding a save button BTW uwe: have you tried Paolo`s SISDB plugin? stefan PS: sorry for the german version below, but i think my answer is of general interest Uwe Dalluege schrieb: moin stefan, ich lese gerade in deiner mail, dass du den SaveAs dialog abknipsen willst??? (Oder habe ich das falsch verstanden?) btw.: i think i will add SaveDatasetAs... to the layerpopupmenu again (and may disable the simple SaveAs dialog) since it needed if one wants to store in other dataformats such as databases. Was meinst du? Save Dataset As File... oder Save dataset as... Save Dataset As File... hat den gro?en vorteil, dass der suffix angeh?ngt wird!!! Bei Save dataset as... kann mein geliebtes PostGIS gesichert werden! Leider kann man wohl in das Save Dataset As File... nicht das sichern einer PostGIS tabelle einbauen und das ganze dann als Save Dataset As... verkaufen?! (Ich stecke da zuwenig in dem code drin :-( Oder kann man aus Save dataset as... ein Save Dataset To PostGIS... machen und den rest rausschmei?en? Leider kann ich dich nicht beim programmieren unterst?tzen, sondern nur kluge spr?che loslassen :-( Also: Im layerpopup ist Save Dateset As File... genauso wichtig wie Save datatset as... (brauche ich f?r PostGIS) oder die oben beschriebene variante. Alles klar? Viele gr??e aus dem st?rmischen norderstedt (Ich fummele gerade am OpenJUMP 1.2 tutorial rum. Habe gestern schon die neuen editor-funktionen beschrieben). uwe -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforge CID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] Make Java2DConverter exchangeable in Viewport?
Hallo together,
It would be of great if the Viewport class [1] would has a
setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter) method.
Java2DConverter [2] objects are used to convert JTS
geometries into Java2D shapes.
Why should it be possible to exchange the converter? For the
simple reason that the default one does some coordinate rounding/cutoffs
that make it hard to produce a quality output for printing, SVG export
and so on. We discussed that earlier on the list. If it would be
possible to set a custom (actually a subclass of Java2DConverter)
converter you can temporally replace the original one for a rendering
cycle to get non-truncated vertices. Even more: you can install a
converter that does some controlled simplifications to reduce the
amount of data that is send to the output devices. I've tried both
and it works very well without having a big impact onto the rendering
process as such.
I've attached a patch to add the setter to Viewport. It would be
really kind if you test it. I don't want to simply let my commit
speak. ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Sascha
[1] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.Viewport
[2] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.renderer.java2D.Java2DConverter
Index: src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java
===
RCS file:
/cvsroot/jump-pilot/openjump/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 Viewport.java
--- src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 16 Jun 2005
22:11:47 - 1.1
+++ src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 19 Mar 2007
10:45:39 -
@@ -97,6 +97,10 @@
return java2DConverter;
}
+public void setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter converter) {
+java2DConverter = converter;
+}
+
public ZoomHistory getZoomHistory() {
return zoomHistory;
}
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Make Java2DConverter exchangeable in Viewport?
Hi Sascha,
Great idea! Your patch is implemented in SkyJUMP. Of course, it has no
effect until someone creates code to use it. I see that this would also be
a way to implement my decimation optimization without losing any precision.
thanks,
Larry Becker
On 3/19/07, Sascha L. Teichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo together,
It would be of great if the Viewport class [1] would has a
setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter) method.
Java2DConverter [2] objects are used to convert JTS
geometries into Java2D shapes.
Why should it be possible to exchange the converter? For the
simple reason that the default one does some coordinate rounding/cutoffs
that make it hard to produce a quality output for printing, SVG export
and so on. We discussed that earlier on the list. If it would be
possible to set a custom (actually a subclass of Java2DConverter)
converter you can temporally replace the original one for a rendering
cycle to get non-truncated vertices. Even more: you can install a
converter that does some controlled simplifications to reduce the
amount of data that is send to the output devices. I've tried both
and it works very well without having a big impact onto the rendering
process as such.
I've attached a patch to add the setter to Viewport. It would be
really kind if you test it. I don't want to simply let my commit
speak. ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Sascha
[1] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.Viewport
[2] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.renderer.java2D.Java2DConverter
Index: src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java
===
RCS file:
/cvsroot/jump-pilot/openjump/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 Viewport.java
--- src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 16 Jun
2005 22:11:47 - 1.1
+++ src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 19 Mar
2007 10:45:39 -
@@ -97,6 +97,10 @@
return java2DConverter;
}
+public void setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter converter) {
+java2DConverter = converter;
+}
+
public ZoomHistory getZoomHistory() {
return zoomHistory;
}
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Kurzer dienstweg (comment on, disablingSaveDatasetAsFile)
Hi Paolo, if you try the PostGIS-PlugIn V.1.2.1 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=118054 and you make Save dataset as... you will find behind Format: a ComboBox where you can save a PostGIS Table. I dont't know how it is works but maybe you can have a look at the code. Uwe From: P.Rizzi Stefan: Yes, I have tried the SISDB plugIn but you can not save a table yet :-( I did not have the time yet to add the saving part... But I also don't know how to add it... The SISDB plugin is a Datastore, so you can add a layer through the Layers/Add Dataset menu. But *JUMP doesn't define any interface for a writing Datastore, so I should create my own Save As menu for that, but I don't know if that would really be a good idea... Bye Paolo Rizzi - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] R: Kurzer dienstweg (comment on, disablingSaveDatasetAsFile)
Hi Paolo, if you try the PostGIS-PlugIn V.1.2.1 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=118054 and you make Save dataset as... you will find behind Format: a ComboBox where you can save a PostGIS Table. I dont't know how it is works but maybe you can have a look at the code. Uwe Problem is there're two different ways of reading and, possibily, writing data. The older one is the datasource paradigm followed by the PostGIS plugin and by the files reader/writer (Shapes, GML, etc.). The reading is accessible through Files/Load Dataset(s). The writing is accessible through Files/Save Dataset As. The newer one is the datastore paradigm that my SISDB plugin follows. The reading is accessible through Layer/Add Datastore Layer. The writing is not possible because writing has yet to be defined for Datastores. So I don't know if I would be better off with defining writing capabilities for Datastores or with doing my own Save As. I really have no time these days to work on this, but sooner or later I'll look into it. Also I would like to find the time to take a look at Kosmo's database capabilities. Bye Paolo Rizzi - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Kurzer dienstweg (comment on, disablingSaveDatasetAsFile)
maybe Erwans team will also look on this issues.. as they plan to add further database support i ll return to you on that stefan P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente schrieb: Hi Paolo, if you try the PostGIS-PlugIn V.1.2.1 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=118054 and you make Save dataset as... you will find behind Format: a ComboBox where you can save a PostGIS Table. I dont't know how it is works but maybe you can have a look at the code. Uwe Problem is there're two different ways of reading and, possibily, writing data. The older one is the datasource paradigm followed by the PostGIS plugin and by the files reader/writer (Shapes, GML, etc.). The reading is accessible through Files/Load Dataset(s). The writing is accessible through Files/Save Dataset As. The newer one is the datastore paradigm that my SISDB plugin follows. The reading is accessible through Layer/Add Datastore Layer. The writing is not possible because writing has yet to be defined for Datastores. So I don't know if I would be better off with defining writing capabilities for Datastores or with doing my own Save As. I really have no time these days to work on this, but sooner or later I'll look into it. Also I would like to find the time to take a look at Kosmo's database capabilities. Bye Paolo Rizzi - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Make Java2DConverter exchangeable in Viewport?
ok.. if Larry (from my point of view the expert) agrees, then you can
commit your patch.
stefan
Sascha L. Teichmann schrieb:
Hallo together,
It would be of great if the Viewport class [1] would has a
setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter) method.
Java2DConverter [2] objects are used to convert JTS
geometries into Java2D shapes.
Why should it be possible to exchange the converter? For the
simple reason that the default one does some coordinate rounding/cutoffs
that make it hard to produce a quality output for printing, SVG export
and so on. We discussed that earlier on the list. If it would be
possible to set a custom (actually a subclass of Java2DConverter)
converter you can temporally replace the original one for a rendering
cycle to get non-truncated vertices. Even more: you can install a
converter that does some controlled simplifications to reduce the
amount of data that is send to the output devices. I've tried both
and it works very well without having a big impact onto the rendering
process as such.
I've attached a patch to add the setter to Viewport. It would be
really kind if you test it. I don't want to simply let my commit
speak. ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Sascha
[1] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.Viewport
[2] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.renderer.java2D.Java2DConverter
Index: src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java
===
RCS file:
/cvsroot/jump-pilot/openjump/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 Viewport.java
--- src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java16 Jun 2005
22:11:47 - 1.1
+++ src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java19 Mar 2007
10:45:39 -
@@ -97,6 +97,10 @@
return java2DConverter;
}
+public void setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter converter) {
+java2DConverter = converter;
+}
+
public ZoomHistory getZoomHistory() {
return zoomHistory;
}
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Make Java2DConverter exchangeable in Viewport?
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... done.
A very big thank you to Larry for supporting me in this. :-)
- From the point of view of the Print/Layout plug-in this makes it
a lot easier to produce hi quality output without tampering
with the size of the LayerViewPanel or other ugly workarounds.
Of cause on the callers side you cannot assume that the
set() call is already there [1]. Even if SkyJUMP and OpenJUMP
features it we have a bunch of other derivates.
It would be very nice to have it at least in deeJUMP or PirolJUMP
as well.
Ugo, Michael (Brüning), any comments about this topic?
- - Sascha
[1] java.lang.reflect is our friend here to check if it exists
and call it if it's possible.
Stefan Steiniger schrieb:
ok.. if Larry (from my point of view the expert) agrees, then you can
commit your patch.
stefan
Sascha L. Teichmann schrieb:
Hallo together,
It would be of great if the Viewport class [1] would has a
setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter) method.
Java2DConverter [2] objects are used to convert JTS
geometries into Java2D shapes.
Why should it be possible to exchange the converter? For the
simple reason that the default one does some coordinate rounding/cutoffs
that make it hard to produce a quality output for printing, SVG export
and so on. We discussed that earlier on the list. If it would be
possible to set a custom (actually a subclass of Java2DConverter)
converter you can temporally replace the original one for a rendering
cycle to get non-truncated vertices. Even more: you can install a
converter that does some controlled simplifications to reduce the
amount of data that is send to the output devices. I've tried both
and it works very well without having a big impact onto the rendering
process as such.
I've attached a patch to add the setter to Viewport. It would be
really kind if you test it. I don't want to simply let my commit
speak. ;-)
Thanks in advance,
Sascha
[1] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.Viewport
[2] com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.renderer.java2D.Java2DConverter
Index: src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java
===
RCS file:
/cvsroot/jump-pilot/openjump/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 Viewport.java
--- src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 16 Jun 2005
22:11:47 - 1.1
+++ src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/Viewport.java 19 Mar 2007
10:45:39 -
@@ -97,6 +97,10 @@
return java2DConverter;
}
+public void setJava2DConverter(Java2DConverter converter) {
+java2DConverter = converter;
+}
+
public ZoomHistory getZoomHistory() {
return zoomHistory;
}
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Re: [JPP-Devel] R: Kurzer dienstweg (comment on, disablingSaveDatasetAsFile)
Hi Guys, Yes. We have planed some jobs around data access flat files and database. We are working on a generic system to manage all kings of datasources. The system will be available in 2 months as a prototype. Look at : http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki/GDBMS/Project R1. On 3/19/07, Stefan Steiniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe Erwans team will also look on this issues.. as they plan to add further database support i ll return to you on that stefan P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente schrieb: Hi Paolo, if you try the PostGIS-PlugIn V.1.2.1 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=118054 and you make Save dataset as... you will find behind Format: a ComboBox where you can save a PostGIS Table. I dont't know how it is works but maybe you can have a look at the code. Uwe Problem is there're two different ways of reading and, possibily, writing data. The older one is the datasource paradigm followed by the PostGIS plugin and by the files reader/writer (Shapes, GML, etc.). The reading is accessible through Files/Load Dataset(s). The writing is accessible through Files/Save Dataset As. The newer one is the datastore paradigm that my SISDB plugin follows. The reading is accessible through Layer/Add Datastore Layer. The writing is not possible because writing has yet to be defined for Datastores. So I don't know if I would be better off with defining writing capabilities for Datastores or with doing my own Save As. I really have no time these days to work on this, but sooner or later I'll look into it. Also I would like to find the time to take a look at Kosmo's database capabilities. Bye Paolo Rizzi - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
