[JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. The other difference is that the object remains selected* and the move feature action is activated so that it is very easy to move the feature. Note : The source feature is selected and the cloned one is not. You realize this if you clone it in another layer and move it. I think this should be changed. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? The target layer is probably predictable, but I agree thet would be more safe to only copy if one editable layer is selected. I would not be surprised that your remark apply to other plugins. Would you write a feature request in case we can not fix that very quicly ? Michaël -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Jukka, clone items not only duplicate items but also set the copies on editing mode and opens move-item tool: it allows users to clone and move objects on the workbench with only one click - the regular duplicate item doesn't have these capabilities. It has some possible usages, cloning object used for point simbology or duplicate buildings which have the same shape. I rather use more this Clone Tool for my maps than the regular Duplicate one - but this is my point of view, more than this I made that tool. Regarding your second question, I will try to find a solution. Note that probabily Replicate Item tool has the same behaviour (I will give a test, too) Giuseppe Da: Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi A: 'OpenJump develop and use' jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Inviato: Lunedì 23 Gennaio 2012 10:08 Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items? Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel-- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Hi, I can see the advantage in clone and move. I think that this tool is most useful when digitising and adding new features into that same layer. Replicate features is clearly made for copying features from one layer into another. That's also what I have been using it. Perhaps we will want to have them both, even it is hard to guess the difference between clone and replicate. But mayby only the Clone tool needs to be on the right click menu and replicate could be only available from the Edit menu? Have you developers discovered that both these tools (clone and replicate) seem to be happy with pasting features also into non-editable layers? -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Jukka, clone items not only duplicate items but also set the copies on editing mode and opens move-item tool: it allows users to clone and move objects on the workbench with only one click - the regular duplicate item doesn't have these capabilities. It has some possible usages, cloning object used for point simbology or duplicate buildings which have the same shape. I rather use more this Clone Tool for my maps than the regular Duplicate one - but this is my point of view, more than this I made that tool. Regarding your second question, I will try to find a solution. Note that probabily Replicate Item tool has the same behaviour (I will give a test, too) Giuseppe Da: Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi A: 'OpenJump develop and use' jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Inviato: Lunedì 23 Gennaio 2012 10:08 Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items? Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Jukka, I believe we definitely should not be copying features to layers that are not editable. Can you fill out a feature request for this? Thanks. The Sunburned Surveyor On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote: Hi, I can see the advantage in clone and move. I think that this tool is most useful when digitising and adding new features into that same layer. Replicate features is clearly made for copying features from one layer into another. That's also what I have been using it. Perhaps we will want to have them both, even it is hard to guess the difference between clone and replicate. But mayby only the Clone tool needs to be on the right click menu and replicate could be only available from the Edit menu? Have you developers discovered that both these tools (clone and replicate) seem to be happy with pasting features also into non-editable layers? -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Jukka, clone items not only duplicate items but also set the copies on editing mode and opens move-item tool: it allows users to clone and move objects on the workbench with only one click - the regular duplicate item doesn't have these capabilities. It has some possible usages, cloning object used for point simbology or duplicate buildings which have the same shape. I rather use more this Clone Tool for my maps than the regular Duplicate one - but this is my point of view, more than this I made that tool. Regarding your second question, I will try to find a solution. Note that probabily Replicate Item tool has the same behaviour (I will give a test, too) Giuseppe Da: Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi A: 'OpenJump develop and use' jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Inviato: Lunedì 23 Gennaio 2012 10:08 Oggetto: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items? Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items?
Hi, I can see the advantage in clone and move. I think that this tool is most useful when digitising and adding new features into that same layer. Replicate features is clearly made for copying features from one layer into another. That's also what I have been using it. Perhaps we will want to have them both, even it is hard to guess the difference between clone and replicate. But mayby only the Clone tool needs to be on the right click menu and replicate could be only available from the Edit menu? Agree with that. Have you developers discovered that both these tools (clone and replicate) seem to be happy with pasting features also into non-editable layers? Didn't notice, you're right, this is incorrect. Michaël -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Jukka, clone items not only duplicate items but also set the copies on editing mode and opens move-item tool: it allows users to clone and move objects on the workbench with only one click - the regular duplicate item doesn't have these capabilities. It has some possible usages, cloning object used for point simbology or duplicate buildings which have the same shape. I rather use more this Clone Tool for my maps than the regular Duplicate one - but this is my point of view, more than this I made that tool. Regarding your second question, I will try to find a solution. Note that probabily Replicate Item tool has the same behaviour (I will give a test, too) Giuseppe *Da:* Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi *A:* 'OpenJump develop and use' jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Inviato:* Lunedì 23 Gennaio 2012 10:08 *Oggetto:* [JPP-Devel] Difference between right click Clone items and replicate-selected-items? Hi, There are two tools in the right click menu which seem to almost the same thing. Clone items does not ask anything, it just clones. Are there other meaningful differences. I notices that if I have selected items from many layers the Clone items is cloning them all into one of the selected layers. It seems to be usually the layer that is highest on the layer legend but not always. Because the behaviour is not easy to predict, would it be better to make this tool usable only if user has exactly one editable layer selected? -Jukka Rahkonen- -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
