Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
Wow, thanks I will not be able to make a tenth of the tests you and others are doing these days... Michaël Le 02/01/2012 13:59, edgar.sol...@web.de a écrit : > On 02.01.2012 13:19, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: >> On 02.01.2012 12:13, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: >>> And Ede's Change coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any >>> difference on using OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools >>> classes). Anyhow I agree with you to test those tools. >> tested cts-0.2 successfully with openjdk7 for windows.. ede >> > same for openjdk6 on windows .. ede > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
Le 02/01/2012 12:13, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit : Hi Michael, do we have some tools that depends on geotools on OJ core? I don't think so AFAIR there is a code that was added for the advanced measure tool. Ya, a piece of code from Netbeans project, no native code, I don't think it can be harmful And Ede's Change coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any difference on using OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools classes). Anyhow I agree with you to test those tools. Another issue I saw on Os geo discussion is the dependency with JAI and related libraries. We don't have this problem, I think. I don't think OpenJUMP needs native dll installed by the jai installer. But I don't understand if Oracle doesn't allow OS to be shipped with their jre machine or they don't allow also programs to be shipped with jre. This not a problem with OpenJUMp but becomes a very big one with other java gis like GvSIG or Kosmo. Let's see. The good new is that JDK seems to be better every year. Michaël Peppe *Da:* Michaël Michaud *A:* jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Inviato:* Domenica 1 Gennaio 2012 22:47 *Oggetto:* Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK Hi, > generally openjdk should do the trick. however, if the osgeo folks want to be sure they should include the "original" jvm. I think there is a change in the Oracle JVM licence which is the reason why osgeo people want to migrate to OpenJDK Here is what Cameron Shorter, the project leader, says : "As per email thread below, the OSGeo-Live project is looking for guidance on what we should do regarding a migration to OpenJDK. The brief facts: * Sun Java is not allowed to be packaged into future distributions (like ubuntu, debian, or OSGeo-Live). Instead, users are expected to download SunJava from Sun. * SunJava 7 will be based upon OpenJDK. * OpenJDK is reportedly much better than previous OpenJDK versions. For OSGeo-Live: * OSGeo-Live v5.5 (released in March 2012) will be based upon the older Xubuntu 10.04, so at a pinch, we can still use Sun java, (but won't be able to accept security updates). For OSGeo-Live v6.0 (Sept 2012), we intend to use Xubuntu 12.04, and hence will only be able to use OpenJDK. * OSGeo-Live is space limited, and we strongly prefer to only include one flavour of java, otherwise we need to remove some of our windows installers. So bottom line is that java applications which wish to be included in Linux distributions will need to support OpenJDK soon, and this is coming to a head as we package OSGeo-Live. Questions for Geotools developers: 1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now? 2. Is it possible to migrate geotools based applications to OpenJDK? 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for OSGeo-Live 5.5)? We can help with testing packaged applications, but are looking for guidance from projects on where we should be focusing our energy." > >> Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm >>(like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, >> I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation > or just put into tracker or on the mailing list .. ede > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don&#
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
On 02.01.2012 13:19, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: > On 02.01.2012 12:13, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: >> And Ede's Change coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any >> difference on using OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools >> classes). Anyhow I agree with you to test those tools. > > tested cts-0.2 successfully with openjdk7 for windows.. ede > same for openjdk6 on windows .. ede -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
On 02.01.2012 12:13, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > And Ede's Change coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any > difference on using OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools > classes). Anyhow I agree with you to test those tools. tested cts-0.2 successfully with openjdk7 for windows.. ede -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
On 02.01.2012 12:13, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > Hi Michael, > do we have some tools that depends on geotools on OJ core? AFAIR there is a > code that was added for the advanced measure tool. And Ede's Change > coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any difference on using > OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools classes). Anyhow I agree > with you to test those tools. geotools is a quite big suite and i expect especially native libraries to be not as stable as on oracle jdk. anyway the cts extension should work flawlessly, but that's of no urgent priority as it will not be shipped on osgeo anyway. > Another issue I saw on Os geo discussion is the dependency with JAI and > related libraries. We don't have this problem, I think. the libs we ship are under the license mention in ther readme and allow redistribution. faster binary jai libs are a different matter. > But I don't understand if Oracle doesn't allow OS to be shipped with their > jre machine or they don't allow also programs to be shipped with jre. This > not a problem with OpenJUMp but becomes a very big one with other java gis > like GvSIG or Kosmo. i am not even sure that the jre redistribution of gvsig and co was legal at any time, because the old "Operating System Distributor License for Java" was targeted at os distributors, not program dirstributors. anyway here is some more background on the retiring the old DLJ http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html and on openjdk7 vs. oracle sdk7 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1977238/why-should-i-use-the-sun-jdk-over-the-openjdk-or-vice-versa ..ede > > Peppe > > *Da:* Michaël Michaud > *A:* jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > *Inviato:* Domenica 1 Gennaio 2012 22:47 > *Oggetto:* Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK > > Hi, >> generally openjdk should do the trick. however, if the osgeo folks want to >> be sure they should include the "original" jvm. > I think there is a change in the Oracle JVM licence which is the reason > why osgeo people want to migrate to OpenJDK > Here is what Cameron Shorter, the project leader, says : > > "As per email thread below, the OSGeo-Live project is looking for > guidance on what we should do regarding a migration to OpenJDK. > > The brief facts: > * Sun Java is not allowed to be packaged into future distributions (like > ubuntu, debian, or OSGeo-Live). Instead, users are expected to download > SunJava from Sun. > * SunJava 7 will be based upon OpenJDK. > * OpenJDK is reportedly much better than previous OpenJDK versions. > > For OSGeo-Live: > * OSGeo-Live v5.5 (released in March 2012) will be based upon the older > Xubuntu 10.04, so at a pinch, we can still use Sun java, (but won't be > able to accept security updates). For OSGeo-Live v6.0 (Sept 2012), we > intend to use Xubuntu 12.04, and hence will only be able to use OpenJDK. > * OSGeo-Live is space limited, and we strongly prefer to only include > one flavour of java, otherwise we need to remove some of our windows > installers. > > So bottom line is that java applications which wish to be included in > Linux distributions will need to support OpenJDK soon, and this is > coming to a head as we package OSGeo-Live. > > Questions for Geotools developers: > 1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now? > 2. Is it possible to migrate geotools based applications to OpenJDK? > 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for OSGeo-Live 5.5)? > > We can help with testing packaged applications, but are looking for > guidance from projects on where we should be focusing our energy." > > >> >>> Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm >>>(like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, >>> I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here >>> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation >> or just put into tracker or on the mailing list .. ede >> >> -- >> Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex >> infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to >> virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual >> desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure >> costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox >> ___ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.source
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
Hi Michael, do we have some tools that depends on geotools on OJ core? AFAIR there is a code that was added for the advanced measure tool. And Ede's Change coordinate system tool, Anyhow right now I don't see any difference on using OpenJUMP tools (whether or not depending on geotools classes). Anyhow I agree with you to test those tools. Another issue I saw on Os geo discussion is the dependency with JAI and related libraries. We don't have this problem, I think. But I don't understand if Oracle doesn't allow OS to be shipped with their jre machine or they don't allow also programs to be shipped with jre. This not a problem with OpenJUMp but becomes a very big one with other java gis like GvSIG or Kosmo. Peppe Da: Michaël Michaud A: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Inviato: Domenica 1 Gennaio 2012 22:47 Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK Hi, > generally openjdk should do the trick. however, if the osgeo folks want to be > sure they should include the "original" jvm. I think there is a change in the Oracle JVM licence which is the reason why osgeo people want to migrate to OpenJDK Here is what Cameron Shorter, the project leader, says : "As per email thread below, the OSGeo-Live project is looking for guidance on what we should do regarding a migration to OpenJDK. The brief facts: * Sun Java is not allowed to be packaged into future distributions (like ubuntu, debian, or OSGeo-Live). Instead, users are expected to download SunJava from Sun. * SunJava 7 will be based upon OpenJDK. * OpenJDK is reportedly much better than previous OpenJDK versions. For OSGeo-Live: * OSGeo-Live v5.5 (released in March 2012) will be based upon the older Xubuntu 10.04, so at a pinch, we can still use Sun java, (but won't be able to accept security updates). For OSGeo-Live v6.0 (Sept 2012), we intend to use Xubuntu 12.04, and hence will only be able to use OpenJDK. * OSGeo-Live is space limited, and we strongly prefer to only include one flavour of java, otherwise we need to remove some of our windows installers. So bottom line is that java applications which wish to be included in Linux distributions will need to support OpenJDK soon, and this is coming to a head as we package OSGeo-Live. Questions for Geotools developers: 1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now? 2. Is it possible to migrate geotools based applications to OpenJDK? 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for OSGeo-Live 5.5)? We can help with testing packaged applications, but are looking for guidance from projects on where we should be focusing our energy." > >> Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm >> (like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, >> I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation > or just put into tracker or on the mailing list .. ede > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel-- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
Hi, > generally openjdk should do the trick. however, if the osgeo folks want to be > sure they should include the "original" jvm. I think there is a change in the Oracle JVM licence which is the reason why osgeo people want to migrate to OpenJDK Here is what Cameron Shorter, the project leader, says : "As per email thread below, the OSGeo-Live project is looking for guidance on what we should do regarding a migration to OpenJDK. The brief facts: * Sun Java is not allowed to be packaged into future distributions (like ubuntu, debian, or OSGeo-Live). Instead, users are expected to download SunJava from Sun. * SunJava 7 will be based upon OpenJDK. * OpenJDK is reportedly much better than previous OpenJDK versions. For OSGeo-Live: * OSGeo-Live v5.5 (released in March 2012) will be based upon the older Xubuntu 10.04, so at a pinch, we can still use Sun java, (but won't be able to accept security updates). For OSGeo-Live v6.0 (Sept 2012), we intend to use Xubuntu 12.04, and hence will only be able to use OpenJDK. * OSGeo-Live is space limited, and we strongly prefer to only include one flavour of java, otherwise we need to remove some of our windows installers. So bottom line is that java applications which wish to be included in Linux distributions will need to support OpenJDK soon, and this is coming to a head as we package OSGeo-Live. Questions for Geotools developers: 1. Do geotools based applications work on OpenJDK now? 2. Is it possible to migrate geotools based applications to OpenJDK? 3. Can such migration happen before Feb 2012 (for OSGeo-Live 5.5)? We can help with testing packaged applications, but are looking for guidance from projects on where we should be focusing our energy." > >> Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm >>(like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, >> I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation > or just put into tracker or on the mailing list .. ede > > -- > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > ___ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
On 01.01.2012 22:31, Michaël Michaud wrote: > Ede, Peppe, Matthias and linux users, > > Do you monitor live-d...@lists.osgeo.org list ? no sorry > There are discussions on which jvm will be included in the osgeo-live dvd > Seems that they want to check that all included softwares are compatible > with OpenJDK. generally openjdk should do the trick. however, if the osgeo folks want to be sure they should include the "original" jvm. > Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm > (like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, > I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here > https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation or just put into tracker or on the mailing list .. ede -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] OpenJUMP & OpenJDK
Ede, Peppe, Matthias and linux users, Do you monitor live-d...@lists.osgeo.org list ? There are discussions on which jvm will be included in the osgeo-live dvd Seems that they want to check that all included softwares are compatible with OpenJDK. Anyhow, if you notice any problem related to a particular jvm (like the one just reported by Matthias) or a particular linux distro, I think it can be reported (or accessible from) here https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Installation Michaël -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
