Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread Chen Jiang
You cannot put fxp0 into VRF but could put it into a logical system. And
logical system also have a seperate routing table other than inet.0.



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having
 problems with.

 I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal
 (1918) network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but
 routed and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
 management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and
 set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able
 to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
 So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in
 the master instance and installing a default route for the master instance.
 This works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical
 system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master
 instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.

 What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a
 public routed interface?

 Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the
 fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)

 Thanks for any help/ideas!
 Jim

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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread William Jackson
What we did as we have different IP ranges that access via the Fxp0 was
to NAT on the next-hop router connected to the FXP port. So that all
traffic appears to the fxp as if it was directly connected to it.



Best Regards
 
William Jackson
Technical Department
Sapphire Networks


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[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chris Kawchuk
Sent: 08 July 2010 02:33
To: Jim Devane
Cc: juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

Answer:

interfaces {
fxp0 {
description MANAGEMENT;
speed 100m;
link-mode full-duplex;
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 10.2.1.100/24;
}
}
}
}

routing-options {
static {
route 10.0.0.0/8 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
route 172.16.0.0/12 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
route 192.168.0.0/16 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
}
}

 where 10.2.1.1 is some internal router on your management network,
which knows how to get everywhere in your management cloud. RFC1918
stays inside, everything else stays outside. And since you cant go from
transit interface to mamagement (fxp0), there's no way to get from
public-private and vice versa.

No need for a vrf - assuming that all other IPs in use on the
production part of the network are real IPs; as JunOS simply wont
route from, say, xe-0/0/0.0 to fxp0; but management will be allowed.

Breaks if you tend to use private space on your Production 10G
interfaces, tho =)


- Chris.




On 2010-07-07, at 1:16 PM, Jim Devane wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but
having problems with.
 
 I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal
(1918) network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat
but routed and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port
and set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am
not able to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config
checkout)
 So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp
in the master instance and installing a default route for the master
instance. This works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is
in a logical system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to
be in the master instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a
logical/routing instance.
 
 What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is
not a public routed interface?
 
 Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides
the fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)
 
 Thanks for any help/ideas!
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[j-nsp] Hidden and invisible routes

2010-07-08 Thread Thomas Eichhorn
Hi all,

I just had a strange moment on one of my EXes:

I had configured a static route, but entered a next-hop
which simply doesn't exist.

I expected to see the route as hidden marked with
'invalid next-hop' or something like that, but the route
simply wasn't shown anywhere except the configuration.

Is this a bug of any kind or did I just had a wrong expectation
of junos behaviour?

Thanks,
Tom
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Re: [j-nsp] Hidden and invisible routes

2010-07-08 Thread Phill Jolliffe
did you type show route hidden?

The is a hidden route counter for each table, inet.x, itn the top
right output of show route




On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Eichhorn t...@te3networks.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just had a strange moment on one of my EXes:

 I had configured a static route, but entered a next-hop
 which simply doesn't exist.

 I expected to see the route as hidden marked with
 'invalid next-hop' or something like that, but the route
 simply wasn't shown anywhere except the configuration.

 Is this a bug of any kind or did I just had a wrong expectation
 of junos behaviour?

 Thanks,
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Re: [j-nsp] Hidden and invisible routes

2010-07-08 Thread Thomas Eichhorn
Yes, I did.

The route is not hidden - it simply doesn't exist in any routing table,
which is my problem - I see this as a false behaviour...

Tom

On 08.07.2010 12:22, Phill Jolliffe wrote:
 did you type show route hidden?
 
 The is a hidden route counter for each table, inet.x, itn the top
 right output of show route
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Eichhorn t...@te3networks.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just had a strange moment on one of my EXes:

 I had configured a static route, but entered a next-hop
 which simply doesn't exist.

 I expected to see the route as hidden marked with
 'invalid next-hop' or something like that, but the route
 simply wasn't shown anywhere except the configuration.

 Is this a bug of any kind or did I just had a wrong expectation
 of junos behaviour?

 Thanks,
 Tom
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Re: [j-nsp] Hidden and invisible routes

2010-07-08 Thread Chris Evans
I believe because the route is invalid it won't even put it into the rib as
a candidate route.  IOS devices work this way as well.

On Jul 8, 2010 7:42 AM, Thomas Eichhorn t...@te3networks.de wrote:

Yes, I did.

The route is not hidden - it simply doesn't exist in any routing table,
which is my problem - I see this as a false behaviour...

Tom


On 08.07.2010 12:22, Phill Jolliffe wrote:
 did you type show route hidden?

 The is a hidden...
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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
You could also put your production traffic into a VRF (not a logical 
system).  Not sure if MS-DPC will work for VRFs (routing-instances).

On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:54:15PM +0800, Chen Jiang wrote:
 You cannot put fxp0 into VRF but could put it into a logical system. And
 logical system also have a seperate routing table other than inet.0.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having
  problems with.
 
  I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal
  (1918) network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but
  routed and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
  management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and
  set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able
  to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
  So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in
  the master instance and installing a default route for the master instance.
  This works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical
  system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master
  instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.
 
  What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a
  public routed interface?
 
  Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the
  fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)
 
  Thanks for any help/ideas!
  Jim
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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
It's not about using the line cards.  It's about keeping the fxp0 
routes separate and isolated from the production routes.  If you 
happen to have overlapping address ranges between your production and 
management subnets, you will have a problem that fxp0 routes will 
interfere with production traffic and vice versa unless you can put 
one or the other into a VRF.

On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 05:33:18PM +1000, Truman Boyes wrote:
 Putting fxpX or meX interfaces into a VRF is not a good idea. I 
 understand that you want to have a management VPN, that idea is 
 fine, but the host routing from the routing engine should not have 
 to rely on other features/line cards of the box that may need to be 
 serviced.
 
 I tend to use loopback addresses inside l3vpns that I can reach via 
 my OSS networks, and this works perfectly for basic NMS-type of 
 operations.
 
 Even still, a routing-engine that suffers in booting a line card 
 that provides MPLS uplinks would be out of commission if the VRF 
 routing was not working.
 
 Cheers,
 Truman
 
 On 8/07/2010, at 6:22 AM, Chris Evans wrote:
 
  Send a bitch email to juniper. I have been begging for the capability to put
  the fxp into a vrf.
  
  On Jul 7, 2010 3:53 PM, Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having
  problems with.
  
  I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal (1918)
  network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but routed
  and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
  management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and
  set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able
  to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
  So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in the
  master instance and installing a default route for the master instance. This
  works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical
  system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master
  instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.
  
  What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a
  public routed interface?
  
  Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the
  fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)
  
  Thanks for any help/ideas!
  Jim
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[j-nsp] Using hard disk for primary boot device

2010-07-08 Thread Erol KAHRAMAN

Hello everyone,

I have m7i box with 256 MB CF. I need to upgrade my JunOS. Yet, CF 
capacity is not enough. Is it possible to use my hard drive as primary 
boot device and use my router without CF.


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[j-nsp] Manually installing JunOS on crashed HD (no CF available)

2010-07-08 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
Gentlemen,

thank you for all those answers on my previous question, about replacing M7i
HD.

Just replaced that crashed HD with an IDE one, notebook sized.
Haven't found a SSD at good prices, still searching for one.

In this new HD I've installed FreeBSD 4.4-mini (minimum install, just
default options),
trying to mimic partitions and options from other M7i box. To install I
plugged the HD at
one PC and did install there.

Next step was booting at M7i board and going to do jinstall, but it freezes
at boot time.
I didn't try to run jinstall from outside the box.

What am I missing here?

I'm attaching output from serial, as I got it from M7i console.

I'm not sure if this is any documented procedure. Is there any documentation
on how to do this?
I do not have a CF card available, so doing this at JunOS CLI isn't an
option.

Once more, thank you.

Kind regards,
Felipe
Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-98, Award Software, Inc.

BIOS Version 1.8
09/18/2003-i440BX-SMC67X-2A69TU00C-00


WARNING: History show a reset caused by the WatchDog
Will try to boot from :
PCMCIA ATA Flash Card
Compact Flash
Primary IDE Hard Disk
Ethernet
Boot Sequence is reseted due to a PowerUp

Trying to Boot from PCMCIA ATA Flash Card

Trying to Boot from Compact Flash

Trying to Boot from Primary IDE Hard Disk
 o
F1   FreeBSD
   
Default: F1 

   
   
   
 
 

   

 /kernel text=0x29c035 data=0x43d48+0x21e0c syms=[0x4+0x3ac60+0x4+0x408f2]
/
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [kernel]...   
Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001
mur...@builder.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (397.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x68a  Stepping = 10
  
Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 268435456 (262144K bytes)
avail memory = 256798720 (250780K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xc048.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 14 entries at 0xc00fde60
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge (AGP disabled) on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
isab0: Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
uhci0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 at 
device 7.2 on pci0
usb0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
chip1: Intel 82371AB Power management controller port 0x5000-0x500f at device 
7.3 on pci0
pcic0: YENTA PCI-CARDBUS Bridge mem 0xe6045000-0xe6045fff irq 15 at device 
13.0 on pci0
pccard0: PC Card bus (classic) on pcic0
pcic1: YENTA PCI-CARDBUS Bridge mem 0xe604-0xe6040fff irq 9 at device 
13.1 on pci0
pccard1: PC Card bus (classic) on pcic1
fxp0: Intel Embedded 10/100 Ethernet port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 
0xe602-0xe603,0xe6044000-0xe6044fff irq 9 at device 160
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:a5:**:**:** (protecting my hardware info...)
inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp1: Intel Embedded 10/100 Ethernet port 0xe000-0xe03f mem 
0xe600-0xe601,0xe6047000-0xe6047fff irq 10 at device 10
fxp1: Ethernet address 00:a0:a5:**:**:** (protecting my hardware info...)
inphy1: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus1
inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
orm0: Option ROM at iomem 0xc8000-0xd17ff on isa0
fdc0: direction bit not set
fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3b0-0x3bb iomem 0xb-0xb7fff on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
**It stuck here, haven't got any further**

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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread David Ball
  I do this in my network.  It works well.

David


On 7 July 2010 18:33, Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Answer:

 interfaces {
fxp0 {
description MANAGEMENT;
speed 100m;
link-mode full-duplex;
unit 0 {
family inet {
address 10.2.1.100/24;
}
}
}
 }

 routing-options {
static {
route 10.0.0.0/8 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
route 172.16.0.0/12 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
route 192.168.0.0/16 {
next-hop 10.2.1.1;
no-readvertise;
}
}
 }

  where 10.2.1.1 is some internal router on your management network, which 
 knows how to get everywhere in your management cloud. RFC1918 stays inside, 
 everything else stays outside. And since you cant go from transit interface 
 to mamagement (fxp0), there's no way to get from public-private and vice 
 versa.

 No need for a vrf - assuming that all other IPs in use on the production 
 part of the network are real IPs; as JunOS simply wont route from, say, 
 xe-0/0/0.0 to fxp0; but management will be allowed.

 Breaks if you tend to use private space on your Production 10G interfaces, 
 tho =)


 - Chris.




 On 2010-07-07, at 1:16 PM, Jim Devane wrote:

 Hello,

 I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having 
 problems with.

 I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal (1918) 
 network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but routed 
 and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for 
 management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and 
 set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able 
 to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
 So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in the 
 master instance and installing a default route for the master instance. This 
 works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical 
 system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master 
 instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.

 What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a 
 public routed interface?

 Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the 
 fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)

 Thanks for any help/ideas!
 Jim

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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread Serge Vautour
Putting fxp0 in a LS works from a routing perspective but it breaks NSR  GRES 
- 
at least it does in 10.0R2. I have a JTAC case pending.

Serge



- Original Message 
From: Chen Jiang iloveb...@gmail.com
To: Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:54:15 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

You cannot put fxp0 into VRF but could put it into a logical system. And
logical system also have a seperate routing table other than inet.0.



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having
 problems with.

 I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal
 (1918) network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but
 routed and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
 management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and
 set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able
 to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
 So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in
 the master instance and installing a default route for the master instance.
 This works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical
 system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master
 instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.

 What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a
 public routed interface?

 Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the
 fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)

 Thanks for any help/ideas!
 Jim

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Re: [j-nsp] Manually installing JunOS on crashed HD (no CF available)

2010-07-08 Thread Phill Jolliffe
Maybe cheat? Put the old HDD in a working RE, (good CF), do an
install-media and from extern flash. The boot, do a request system
snapshot

Then put the HDD back in foobar'd RE and boot.



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
fel...@starbyte.net wrote:
 Gentlemen,

 thank you for all those answers on my previous question, about replacing M7i
 HD.

 Just replaced that crashed HD with an IDE one, notebook sized.
 Haven't found a SSD at good prices, still searching for one.

 In this new HD I've installed FreeBSD 4.4-mini (minimum install, just
 default options),
 trying to mimic partitions and options from other M7i box. To install I
 plugged the HD at
 one PC and did install there.

 Next step was booting at M7i board and going to do jinstall, but it freezes
 at boot time.
 I didn't try to run jinstall from outside the box.

 What am I missing here?

 I'm attaching output from serial, as I got it from M7i console.

 I'm not sure if this is any documented procedure. Is there any documentation
 on how to do this?
 I do not have a CF card available, so doing this at JunOS CLI isn't an
 option.

 Once more, thank you.

 Kind regards,
 Felipe

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Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

2010-07-08 Thread Derick Winkworth
We put a router in place to do NAT for the local subnet of the fxp.

Alternately, you can just put static routes in for specific management subnets 
pointing out the fxp port...





From: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
To: Chen Jiang iloveb...@gmail.com; Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 10:26:24 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

Putting fxp0 in a LS works from a routing perspective but it breaks NSR  GRES 
- 

at least it does in 10.0R2. I have a JTAC case pending.

Serge



- Original Message 
From: Chen Jiang iloveb...@gmail.com
To: Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 4:54:15 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Managing MX480 fxp0

You cannot put fxp0 into VRF but could put it into a logical system. And
logical system also have a seperate routing table other than inet.0.



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jim Devane jdev...@switchnap.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I need some ideas/help on a scenario I am sure comes up a lot but having
 problems with.

 I have an MX480. I want to be able to manage this MX from an internal
 (1918) network through the fxp0 port. The internal network is not flat but
 routed and there are several subnets which may contact the MX for
 management/polling. I was thinking/hoping to set up a VRF for this port and
 set routes/default route for the VRF to connect. It turns out I am not able
 to put fxp0 into a routing-instance. (errors on config checkout)
 So I put everything production in to a logical system leaving the fxp in
 the master instance and installing a default route for the master instance.
 This works, but now the MS-DPC will not export flows if it is in a logical
 system. So the logical system is out b/c the MS-DPC has to be in the master
 instance. But I can't but the fxp0 into a logical/routing instance.

 What is the BCP/recommended method for managing this box if fxp0 is not a
 public routed interface?

 Unfortunately, I don't have another port to place into a VRF besides the
 fxp0 (all other ports are 10G)

 Thanks for any help/ideas!
 Jim

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Re: [j-nsp] Hidden and invisible routes

2010-07-08 Thread Phill Jolliffe
Interestingly you see a hidden route if the static route does a
recursive lookup. See config below and then show route output. The
nexthop interface for 10.0.21.2 is down when the below was executed.

This seems to show that at commit time , unless a static is set to
resolve via indirect next-hops, that the config parser checks for an
active, type direct, route in the same routing-instance that can
resolve statics next-hop. If non is found then the static is not, even
as a hidden, added to the routing-instance.

But if resolve is configured it is added persistently to the
routing-instance to allow routes that might become active in the
future to resolve it's indirect next hop and unhide it.

Makes sense? No point in keeping something in the table if it is not
allowed to be resolved indirectly and no interface can resolve it
directly. Though this would mean when a down interface come up that
this would have to trigger a check if the new direct type route cause
static routes in the config but not the routing-instance to become
resolvable.

[edit routing-options]
l...@w00t# run show route hidden

inet.0: 24 destinations, 25 routes (23 active, 0 holddown, 1 hidden)
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

2.3.4.0/24  [Static/5] 00:07:01
  Unusable

[edit routing-options]
l...@w00t# show
static {
route 1.0.0.0/8 next-hop 2.3.4.1;
route 2.3.4.0/24 {
next-hop 10.0.21.2;
resolve;
}
}

resolution {
traceoptions {
file foobar;
flag all;
}
}
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[j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Equipment:
1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
Multiple T1 connections between the above devices

Background: I have read the following literature.
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces/html/interfaces-multilink-config25.html

and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and read
all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR

Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this point,
I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
interfaces involved.

What I have done so far:

Here is an example config from the Juniper

[edit]
j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;

[edit]
j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
description Test MLFR interface;
dce;
encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
unit 16 {
dlci 16;
family inet {
address 66.39.177.129/32 {
destination 66.39.177.130;
}
}
}
unit 17 {
dlci 17;
family inet {
address 10.100.100.1/32 {
destination 10.100.100.2;
}
}
}

[edit]
j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
unit 0 {
family mlfr-uni-nni {
bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
}
}

[edit]
j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
unit 0 {
family mlfr-uni-nni {
bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
}
}

After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is that I
cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be able to
see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing, just
like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the status of
that interface.

Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the ls-x/x/x:0
interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't change
anything.

Any help would be great!

TIA

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Re: [j-nsp] Manually installing JunOS on crashed HD (no CF available)

2010-07-08 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
Jonas,

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jonas Frey j...@probe-networks.de wrote:

 I guess you dont get any more console output since after that last line
 the system will send all output to VGA only. Before the output was
 handled by the bios and redirected to the com port.
 So (i guess) you have to make the freebsd installation to send all
 console output to the correct com-port...probably ttyd0.
 See:


thanks for your tips, but already had changed /boot/loader.conf to use
'comconsole', before that (vidconsole) I had nothing after Juniper's BIOS.
And ttyd0 was enabled too.

Using a PC, FreeBSD 4.4 boot messages after the one I got are:

sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
ad0: 28615MB VBOX HARDDISK [58140/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: DVD-ROM VBOX CD-ROM at ata0-slave using PIO4
acd1: DVD-ROM VBOX CD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
swapon: adding /dev/ad0s1b as swap device
Automatic boot in progress...

Maybe it stuck trying to create virtual consoles on serial interface? I
really don't know.

As in Phill's idea, would be great if I had a spare M7i. Or even a spare RE.
Not my case here, unfortunately.




http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/console-server/freebsd.html


Anyway, will take a real read on those documents. Maybe there's some
important flag I'm ignoring.



 [ snip ]



Thankfully,
Felipe
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Re: [j-nsp] Manually installing JunOS on crashed HD (no CF available)

2010-07-08 Thread Jonas Frey
I guess you dont get any more console output since after that last line
the system will send all output to VGA only. Before the output was
handled by the bios and redirected to the com port.
So (i guess) you have to make the freebsd installation to send all
console output to the correct com-port...probably ttyd0.
See:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/console-server/freebsd.html

Regards,
Jonas

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 17:42, Phill Jolliffe wrote:
 Maybe cheat? Put the old HDD in a working RE, (good CF), do an
 install-media and from extern flash. The boot, do a request system
 snapshot
 
 Then put the HDD back in foobar'd RE and boot.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
 fel...@starbyte.net wrote:
  Gentlemen,
 
  thank you for all those answers on my previous question, about replacing M7i
  HD.
 
  Just replaced that crashed HD with an IDE one, notebook sized.
  Haven't found a SSD at good prices, still searching for one.
 
  In this new HD I've installed FreeBSD 4.4-mini (minimum install, just
  default options),
  trying to mimic partitions and options from other M7i box. To install I
  plugged the HD at
  one PC and did install there.
 
  Next step was booting at M7i board and going to do jinstall, but it freezes
  at boot time.
  I didn't try to run jinstall from outside the box.
 
  What am I missing here?
 
  I'm attaching output from serial, as I got it from M7i console.
 
  I'm not sure if this is any documented procedure. Is there any documentation
  on how to do this?
  I do not have a CF card available, so doing this at JunOS CLI isn't an
  option.
 
  Once more, thank you.
 
  Kind regards,
  Felipe
 
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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
Jim,

What kind of Service PIC are you using for this purpose. Is it Link Services
PIC or Adaptive Service PIC configured in Layer-2 mode under [edit chassis]?

You need either link services or adaptive service PIC (with L2 mode) to
create the ls- or lsq- interface.

Thanks,
Nilesh.


On 7/8/10 9:30 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Equipment:
 1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
 2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
 Multiple T1 connections between the above devices
 
 Background: I have read the following literature.
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces/h
 tml/interfaces-multilink-config25.html
 
 and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and
 read
 all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR
 
 Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this
 point,
 I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
 interfaces involved.
 
 What I have done so far:
 
 Here is an example config from the Juniper
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
 description Test MLFR interface;
 dce;
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 16 {
 dlci 16;
 family inet {
 address 66.39.177.129/32 {
 destination 66.39.177.130;
 }
 }
 }
 unit 17 {
 dlci 17;
 family inet {
 address 10.100.100.1/32 {
 destination 10.100.100.2;
 }
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is that
 I
 cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be able
 to
 see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing,
 just
 like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the status
 of
 that interface.
 
 Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the
 ls-x/x/x:0
 interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't change
 anything.
 
 Any help would be great!
 
 TIA


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 What kind of Service PIC are you using for this purpose. Is it Link Services
 PIC or Adaptive Service PIC configured in Layer-2 mode under [edit chassis]?
 
 You need either link services or adaptive service PIC (with L2 mode) to
 create the ls- or lsq- interface.
 

I found in one other PDF that suggested adding this.  So, now I have this

j...@x show configuration chassis fpc 1 pic 2
adaptive-services {
service-package layer-2;
}
mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;

Didn't make a difference.

Here is the current status of each T1 interface

j...@x show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
Physical interface: t1-1/1/0:0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
  Interface index: 444, SNMP ifIndex: 310
  Description: Test MLFR (1/2)
  Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, Speed:
T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
  Device flags   : Present Running
  Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
  Link flags : None
  CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
  Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:54 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
  Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
  Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
  DS1   alarms   : None
  DS3   alarms   : None
  DS1   defects  : None
  DS3   defects  : None

  Logical interface t1-1/1/0:0.0 (Index 394) (SNMP ifIndex 429)
Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
  Flags: None

j...@x show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
Physical interface: t1-1/0/0:19, Enabled, Physical link is Up
  Interface index: 501, SNMP ifIndex: 211
  Description: Test MLFR (2/2)
  Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, Speed:
T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
  Device flags   : Present Running
  Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
  Link flags : None
  CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
  Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:53 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
  Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
  Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
  DS1   alarms   : None
  DS3   alarms   : None
  DS1   defects  : None
  DS3   defects  : None

  Logical interface t1-1/0/0:19.0 (Index 389) (SNMP ifIndex 625)
Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
  Flags: None

Thanks for the assistance

Jim

 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 9:30 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Equipment:
 1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
 2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
 Multiple T1 connections between the above devices

 Background: I have read the following literature.
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces/h
 tml/interfaces-multilink-config25.html

 and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and
 read
 all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR

 Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this
 point,
 I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
 interfaces involved.

 What I have done so far:

 Here is an example config from the Juniper

 [edit]
 j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
 description Test MLFR interface;
 dce;
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 16 {
 dlci 16;
 family inet {
 address 66.39.177.129/32 {
 destination 66.39.177.130;
 }
 }
 }
 unit 17 {
 dlci 17;
 family inet {
 address 10.100.100.1/32 {
 destination 10.100.100.2;
 }
 }
 }

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }

 After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is that
 I
 cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be able
 to
 see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing,
 just
 like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the status
 of
 that interface.

 Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the
 ls-x/x/x:0
 interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't change
 anything.

 Any help would be great!

 TIA
 


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Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
Do you have show chassis hardware output?

- Nilesh


On 7/8/10 12:37 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 What kind of Service PIC are you using for this purpose. Is it Link Services
 PIC or Adaptive Service PIC configured in Layer-2 mode under [edit chassis]?
 
 You need either link services or adaptive service PIC (with L2 mode) to
 create the ls- or lsq- interface.
 
 
 I found in one other PDF that suggested adding this.  So, now I have this
 
 j...@x show configuration chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 adaptive-services {
 service-package layer-2;
 }
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;
 
 Didn't make a difference.
 
 Here is the current status of each T1 interface
 
 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 Physical interface: t1-1/1/0:0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 444, SNMP ifIndex: 310
   Description: Test MLFR (1/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:54 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None
 
   Logical interface t1-1/1/0:0.0 (Index 394) (SNMP ifIndex 429)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None
 
 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 Physical interface: t1-1/0/0:19, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 501, SNMP ifIndex: 211
   Description: Test MLFR (2/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:53 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None
 
   Logical interface t1-1/0/0:19.0 (Index 389) (SNMP ifIndex 625)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None
 
 Thanks for the assistance
 
 Jim
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 9:30 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Equipment:
 1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
 2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
 Multiple T1 connections between the above devices
 
 Background: I have read the following literature.
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces
 /h
 tml/interfaces-multilink-config25.html
 
 and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and
 read
 all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR
 
 Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this
 point,
 I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
 interfaces involved.
 
 What I have done so far:
 
 Here is an example config from the Juniper
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
 description Test MLFR interface;
 dce;
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 16 {
 dlci 16;
 family inet {
 address 66.39.177.129/32 {
 destination 66.39.177.130;
 }
 }
 }
 unit 17 {
 dlci 17;
 family inet {
 address 10.100.100.1/32 {
 destination 10.100.100.2;
 }
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is
 that
 I
 cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be able
 to
 see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing,
 just
 like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the
 status
 of
 that interface.
 
 Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the
 ls-x/x/x:0
 interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't
 change
 anything.
 
 Any help would be great!
 
 TIA
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Do you have show chassis hardware output?

Yes, what specifically are you looking for?

 
 - Nilesh
 
 
 On 7/8/10 12:37 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,

 What kind of Service PIC are you using for this purpose. Is it Link Services
 PIC or Adaptive Service PIC configured in Layer-2 mode under [edit chassis]?

 You need either link services or adaptive service PIC (with L2 mode) to
 create the ls- or lsq- interface.

 I found in one other PDF that suggested adding this.  So, now I have this

 j...@x show configuration chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 adaptive-services {
 service-package layer-2;
 }
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;

 Didn't make a difference.

 Here is the current status of each T1 interface

 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 Physical interface: t1-1/1/0:0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 444, SNMP ifIndex: 310
   Description: Test MLFR (1/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, 
 Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:54 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None

   Logical interface t1-1/1/0:0.0 (Index 394) (SNMP ifIndex 429)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None

 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 Physical interface: t1-1/0/0:19, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 501, SNMP ifIndex: 211
   Description: Test MLFR (2/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal, 
 Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:53 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None

   Logical interface t1-1/0/0:19.0 (Index 389) (SNMP ifIndex 625)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None

 Thanks for the assistance

 Jim

 Thanks,
 Nilesh.


 On 7/8/10 9:30 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Equipment:
 1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
 2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
 Multiple T1 connections between the above devices

 Background: I have read the following literature.
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfaces
 /h
 tml/interfaces-multilink-config25.html

 and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and
 read
 all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR

 Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this
 point,
 I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
 interfaces involved.

 What I have done so far:

 Here is an example config from the Juniper

 [edit]
 j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
 description Test MLFR interface;
 dce;
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 16 {
 dlci 16;
 family inet {
 address 66.39.177.129/32 {
 destination 66.39.177.130;
 }
 }
 }
 unit 17 {
 dlci 17;
 family inet {
 address 10.100.100.1/32 {
 destination 10.100.100.2;
 }
 }
 }

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }

 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }

 After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is
 that
 I
 cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be 
 able
 to
 see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing,
 just
 like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the
 status
 of
 that interface.

 Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the
 ls-x/x/x:0
 interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't
 change
 anything.

 Any help would be great!

 TIA
 


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Q: Why do I not get an answer to 

Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?

- Nilesh


On 7/8/10 2:12 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Do you have show chassis hardware output?
 
 Yes, what specifically are you looking for?
 
 
 - Nilesh
 
 
 On 7/8/10 12:37 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 What kind of Service PIC are you using for this purpose. Is it Link
 Services
 PIC or Adaptive Service PIC configured in Layer-2 mode under [edit
 chassis]?
 
 You need either link services or adaptive service PIC (with L2 mode) to
 create the ls- or lsq- interface.
 
 I found in one other PDF that suggested adding this.  So, now I have this
 
 j...@x show configuration chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 adaptive-services {
 service-package layer-2;
 }
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;
 
 Didn't make a difference.
 
 Here is the current status of each T1 interface
 
 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 Physical interface: t1-1/1/0:0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 444, SNMP ifIndex: 310
   Description: Test MLFR (1/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal,
 Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:54 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None
 
   Logical interface t1-1/1/0:0.0 (Index 394) (SNMP ifIndex 429)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None
 
 j...@x show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 Physical interface: t1-1/0/0:19, Enabled, Physical link is Up
   Interface index: 501, SNMP ifIndex: 211
   Description: Test MLFR (2/2)
   Link-level type: Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI, MTU: 1518, Clocking: Internal,
 Speed:
 T1, Loopback: None, FCS: 16, Mode: C/Bit parity, Framing: ESF
   Device flags   : Present Running
   Interface flags: Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
   Link flags : None
   CoS queues : 4 supported, 4 in use
   Last flapped   : 2010-07-06 21:09:53 GMT (1d 22:12 ago)
   Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps)
   Output rate: 0 bps (0 pps)
   DS1   alarms   : None
   DS3   alarms   : None
   DS1   defects  : None
   DS3   defects  : None
 
   Logical interface t1-1/0/0:19.0 (Index 389) (SNMP ifIndex 625)
 Flags: Hardware-Down Point-To-Point SNMP-Traps Encapsulation:
 Multilink-FR-UNI-NNI
 Protocol mfr, Multilink bundle: lsq-1/2/0:0, MTU: 0
   Flags: None
 
 Thanks for the assistance
 
 Jim
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 9:30 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Equipment:
 1  Juniper M20 running JunOS 7.5R1.12
 2  Cisco 2611 running 12.4.23 IOS
 Multiple T1 connections between the above devices
 
 Background: I have read the following literature.
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos56/swconfig56-interfac
 es
 /h
 tml/interfaces-multilink-config25.html
 
 and I have downloaded all the PDFs available on the documentation site and
 read
 all the sections that talk about setting up MLFR
 
 Goal: I need to setup MLFR between the two devices listed above. At this
 point,
 I am simply trying to get the Juniper side configured so I can see the
 interfaces involved.
 
 What I have done so far:
 
 Here is an example config from the Juniper
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show chassis fpc 1 pic 2
 mlfr-uni-nni-bundles 5;
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces ls-1/2/0:0
 description Test MLFR interface;
 dce;
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 16 {
 dlci 16;
 family inet {
 address 66.39.177.129/32 {
 destination 66.39.177.130;
 }
 }
 }
 unit 17 {
 dlci 17;
 family inet {
 address 10.100.100.1/32 {
 destination 10.100.100.2;
 }
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/1/0:0
 description Test MLFR leg (1/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 [edit]
 j...@x# show interfaces t1-1/0/0:19
 description Test MLFR leg (2/2);
 encapsulation multilink-frame-relay-uni-nni;
 unit 0 {
 family mlfr-uni-nni {
 bundle ls-1/2/0:0;
 }
 }
 
 After issuing commit the first thing I notice when I exit edit mode is
 that
 I
 cannot see the device ls-1/2/0:0.  Question: At this point, should I be
 able
 to
 see the status of the device?  Even if nothing is connected I am guessing,
 just
 like other interfaces that are configured, I should be able to see the
 status
 of
 that interface.
 
 Also, I have seen two example of doing this.  The first involving the
 ls-x/x/x:0
 interface and the other using lsq-x/x/x:0.  I have tried both.  Didn't
 change
 

[j-nsp] 1000 VRRP instances per IFD and IRB

2010-07-08 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hey guys,

Accoridng to our account team, VRRP scales to about 1000 instances per
IFD.  Not that I want to scale beyond Juniper's tested specs, but has
anyone pushed on this?

Anyone have any experience on many VRRP instances per IFD?  How many?
We're planning on doing vrrp inheritance so only a single IFL is
actually sending keepalives to keep that work to a minimum.

Is there any way to get more IRB IFDs?  Per-interface limits aren't a
major problem for ethernet interfaces - this is a datacenter, we run a
few more cables.  But it's crippling for virtual interfaces.  We'd
love to toss 4000 or so customer VLANs into individual VPLS with IRB,
but we can't justify the cost of 4 pairs of MXes to get more IFDs for
VRRP instances.

Ross

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Ross Vandegrift
r...@kallisti.us

If the fight gets hot, the songs get hotter.  If the going gets tough,
the songs get tougher.
--Woody Guthrie


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Re: [j-nsp] Manually installing JunOS on crashed HD (no CF available)

2010-07-08 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
Hi,

just to keep this information archived to others, even it sounds obvious:
don't try to boot FreeBSD directly at Juniper. :)

What I did to have it working?

Got HD back to PC, pkg_add on jinstall package, once it asked me to reboot,
turn off PC ('halt' does it fine).

Put HD on RE, have it boot on Juniper and you are set. It will upgrade to
Juniper's kernel and in a few minutes you will have a functional M7i again.

Thanks everybody!



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin 
fel...@starbyte.net wrote:

 Jonas,

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jonas Frey j...@probe-networks.de wrote:

 I guess you dont get any more console output since after that last line
 the system will send all output to VGA only. Before the output was
 handled by the bios and redirected to the com port.
 So (i guess) you have to make the freebsd installation to send all
 console output to the correct com-port...probably ttyd0.
 See:


 thanks for your tips, but already had changed /boot/loader.conf to use
 'comconsole', before that (vidconsole) I had nothing after Juniper's BIOS.
 And ttyd0 was enabled too.

 Using a PC, FreeBSD 4.4 boot messages after the one I got are:

 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100
 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
 sio0: type 16550A, console
 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 ppc0: parallel port not found.
 ad0: 28615MB VBOX HARDDISK [58140/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
 acd0: DVD-ROM VBOX CD-ROM at ata0-slave using PIO4
 acd1: DVD-ROM VBOX CD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
 swapon: adding /dev/ad0s1b as swap device
 Automatic boot in progress...

 Maybe it stuck trying to create virtual consoles on serial interface? I
 really don't know.

 As in Phill's idea, would be great if I had a spare M7i. Or even a spare
 RE.
 Not my case here, unfortunately.





 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/console-server/freebsd.html


 Anyway, will take a real read on those documents. Maybe there's some
 important flag I'm ignoring.



 [ snip ]



 Thankfully,
 Felipe

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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?

FPC 0FPC
  PIC 0  4x F/E, 100 BASE-TX
  PIC 1  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
  PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
  PIC 3  4x T3
FPC 1FPC
  PIC 0  4x CT3
  PIC 1  4x CT3
  PIC 2  4x CT3
FPC 2FPC
  PIC 0  1x Multi Link(32)
  PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
  PIC 3  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX

After your last email, I got to thinking if their was something in ls-/1/2/0
would it conflict with was trying to do.  So, I changed my interface to
ls-1/3/0:0 (currently empty) and updated the associated T1 interface bundle
references.  Still no change.

 
 - Nilesh
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
Jim,

You need a Physical service PIC in slot 1/2 (or 1/3 as per your below
comment) to do ls- or lsq-. On J-series platform these interfaces are
created by software but on M20, you need a physical service PIC (either Link
Services or Adaptive Services configured with layer-2 package) to get ls- or
lsq- interface respectively.

How are you using Multilink PIC ins FPC slot 2 PIC slot 0? Can you check
with below command if it has ls- interfaces created on the router with this
multilink PIC?

- show interface terse ls-2/0/0*

Please remove the configuration under [edit chassis] for FPC 1 PIC 2 (or PIC
3). It will not work.

Thanks,
Nilesh.


On 7/8/10 3:33 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?
 
 FPC 0FPC
   PIC 0  4x F/E, 100 BASE-TX
   PIC 1  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  4x T3
 FPC 1FPC
   PIC 0  4x CT3
   PIC 1  4x CT3
   PIC 2  4x CT3
 FPC 2FPC
   PIC 0  1x Multi Link(32)
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
 
 After your last email, I got to thinking if their was something in ls-/1/2/0
 would it conflict with was trying to do.  So, I changed my interface to
 ls-1/3/0:0 (currently empty) and updated the associated T1 interface bundle
 references.  Still no change.
 
 
 - Nilesh
 
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 You need a Physical service PIC in slot 1/2 (or 1/3 as per your below
 comment) to do ls- or lsq-. On J-series platform these interfaces are
 created by software but on M20, you need a physical service PIC (either Link
 Services or Adaptive Services configured with layer-2 package) to get ls- or
 lsq- interface respectively.

Good to know

 
 How are you using Multilink PIC ins FPC slot 2 PIC slot 0? Can you check
 with below command if it has ls- interfaces created on the router with this
 multilink PIC?
 
 - show interface terse ls-2/0/0*

No results

 
 Please remove the configuration under [edit chassis] for FPC 1 PIC 2 (or PIC
 3). It will not work.

Instead of removing, I ...

edit chassis
rename fpc 1 to fpc 2
edit fpc 2
rename pic 2 to pic 0
up
up
rename interface ls-1/2/0:0 to ls-2/0/0:0
set interfaces t1-1/0/0:19 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
set interfaces t1-1/1/0:0 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
commit

ran show interface terse ls-2/0/0*  with no results again.

Thanks for all the help and input!

Jim

 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 3:33 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?
 FPC 0FPC
   PIC 0  4x F/E, 100 BASE-TX
   PIC 1  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  4x T3
 FPC 1FPC
   PIC 0  4x CT3
   PIC 1  4x CT3
   PIC 2  4x CT3
 FPC 2FPC
   PIC 0  1x Multi Link(32)
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX

 After your last email, I got to thinking if their was something in ls-/1/2/0
 would it conflict with was trying to do.  So, I changed my interface to
 ls-1/3/0:0 (currently empty) and updated the associated T1 interface bundle
 references.  Still no change.

 - Nilesh


 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
Sorry...my bad. With Multi-link pic look for ml-2/0/0 interfaces. However, I
am not sure if ml- interfaces supports FRF.16 configuration that you are
trying to achieve. I know it can do FRF.15 but not sure about FRF.16. You
can try and see if it works. I will see if I can confirm it.

Thanks,
Nilesh.




On 7/8/10 4:43 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 You need a Physical service PIC in slot 1/2 (or 1/3 as per your below
 comment) to do ls- or lsq-. On J-series platform these interfaces are
 created by software but on M20, you need a physical service PIC (either Link
 Services or Adaptive Services configured with layer-2 package) to get ls- or
 lsq- interface respectively.
 
 Good to know
 
 
 How are you using Multilink PIC ins FPC slot 2 PIC slot 0? Can you check
 with below command if it has ls- interfaces created on the router with this
 multilink PIC?
 
 - show interface terse ls-2/0/0*
 
 No results
 
 
 Please remove the configuration under [edit chassis] for FPC 1 PIC 2 (or PIC
 3). It will not work.
 
 Instead of removing, I ...
 
 edit chassis
 rename fpc 1 to fpc 2
 edit fpc 2
 rename pic 2 to pic 0
 up
 up
 rename interface ls-1/2/0:0 to ls-2/0/0:0
 set interfaces t1-1/0/0:19 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
 set interfaces t1-1/1/0:0 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
 commit
 
 ran show interface terse ls-2/0/0*  with no results again.
 
 Thanks for all the help and input!
 
 Jim
 
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 3:33 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?
 FPC 0FPC
   PIC 0  4x F/E, 100 BASE-TX
   PIC 1  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  4x T3
 FPC 1FPC
   PIC 0  4x CT3
   PIC 1  4x CT3
   PIC 2  4x CT3
 FPC 2FPC
   PIC 0  1x Multi Link(32)
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
 
 After your last email, I got to thinking if their was something in ls-/1/2/0
 would it conflict with was trying to do.  So, I changed my interface to
 ls-1/3/0:0 (currently empty) and updated the associated T1 interface bundle
 references.  Still no change.
 
 - Nilesh
 
 
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
I think Multilink PIC does not support FRF.16 configuration ( mlfr-uni-nni
bundle or multiple DLCIs in a single bundle). You will need LS PIC or AS/AS2
PIC (with Layer-2 package) to do that. If you need it only for Layer2
purpose you can also go for AS-2 Layer 2 Services only PIC.

The current ML PIC in your router will only support FRF.15 (One DLCI per
Bundle).

Thanks,
Nilesh


On 7/8/10 4:48 PM, Nilesh Khambal nkham...@juniper.net wrote:

 Sorry...my bad. With Multi-link pic look for ml-2/0/0 interfaces. However, I
 am not sure if ml- interfaces supports FRF.16 configuration that you are
 trying to achieve. I know it can do FRF.15 but not sure about FRF.16. You
 can try and see if it works. I will see if I can confirm it.
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 
 
 On 7/8/10 4:43 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Jim,
 
 You need a Physical service PIC in slot 1/2 (or 1/3 as per your below
 comment) to do ls- or lsq-. On J-series platform these interfaces are
 created by software but on M20, you need a physical service PIC (either Link
 Services or Adaptive Services configured with layer-2 package) to get ls- or
 lsq- interface respectively.
 
 Good to know
 
 
 How are you using Multilink PIC ins FPC slot 2 PIC slot 0? Can you check
 with below command if it has ls- interfaces created on the router with this
 multilink PIC?
 
 - show interface terse ls-2/0/0*
 
 No results
 
 
 Please remove the configuration under [edit chassis] for FPC 1 PIC 2 (or PIC
 3). It will not work.
 
 Instead of removing, I ...
 
 edit chassis
 rename fpc 1 to fpc 2
 edit fpc 2
 rename pic 2 to pic 0
 up
 up
 rename interface ls-1/2/0:0 to ls-2/0/0:0
 set interfaces t1-1/0/0:19 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
 set interfaces t1-1/1/0:0 unit 0 family mlfr-uni-nni bundle ls-2/0/0:0
 commit
 
 ran show interface terse ls-2/0/0*  with no results again.
 
 Thanks for all the help and input!
 
 Jim
 
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 
 
 On 7/8/10 3:33 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 
 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 What kind of PIC do you have in FPC slot 1 PIC slot 2?
 FPC 0FPC
   PIC 0  4x F/E, 100 BASE-TX
   PIC 1  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  4x T3
 FPC 1FPC
   PIC 0  4x CT3
   PIC 1  4x CT3
   PIC 2  4x CT3
 FPC 2FPC
   PIC 0  1x Multi Link(32)
   PIC 2  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
   PIC 3  1x G/E, 1000 BASE-LX
 
 After your last email, I got to thinking if their was something in
 ls-/1/2/0
 would it conflict with was trying to do.  So, I changed my interface to
 ls-1/3/0:0 (currently empty) and updated the associated T1 interface bundle
 references.  Still no change.
 
 - Nilesh
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 Sorry...my bad. With Multi-link pic look for ml-2/0/0 interfaces. However, I
 am not sure if ml- interfaces supports FRF.16 configuration that you are
 trying to achieve. I know it can do FRF.15 but not sure about FRF.16. You
 can try and see if it works. I will see if I can confirm it.
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 

Oh, yeah, we have a number of clients configured on ml-2/0/0:X.  But it will not
work, because I need the ability to set multiple DLCIs with different networks
defined.

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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 I think Multilink PIC does not support FRF.16 configuration ( mlfr-uni-nni
 bundle or multiple DLCIs in a single bundle). You will need LS PIC or AS/AS2
 PIC (with Layer-2 package) to do that. If you need it only for Layer2
 purpose you can also go for AS-2 Layer 2 Services only PIC.

So, you are saying that since this is an M20 I cannot do this in software, that
I must have a physical device (equivalent to the multilink in fpc 2 pic 0) to
perform the service of the FRF.16?

Thanks for the information.

 
 The current ML PIC in your router will only support FRF.15 (One DLCI per
 Bundle).
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Nilesh Khambal
That is correct. 

Just to summarize, there are 2 things needed to get this FRF.16 working

- M20 needs a hardware based Services PIC to create ls- or lsq- interfaces
- ML PIC which you currently have in your M20 can only do MLPPP and FRF.15
  style MLFR. Hence you will need either LS PIC or AS/AS2 PIC to do FRF.16.

Thanks,
Nilesh.


On 7/8/10 5:04 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

 Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 I think Multilink PIC does not support FRF.16 configuration ( mlfr-uni-nni
 bundle or multiple DLCIs in a single bundle). You will need LS PIC or AS/AS2
 PIC (with Layer-2 package) to do that. If you need it only for Layer2
 purpose you can also go for AS-2 Layer 2 Services only PIC.
 
 So, you are saying that since this is an M20 I cannot do this in software,
 that
 I must have a physical device (equivalent to the multilink in fpc 2 pic 0) to
 perform the service of the FRF.16?
 
 Thanks for the information.
 
 
 The current ML PIC in your router will only support FRF.15 (One DLCI per
 Bundle).
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh
 
 


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Re: [j-nsp] mlfr

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Lucas
Nilesh Khambal wrote:
 That is correct. 
 
 Just to summarize, there are 2 things needed to get this FRF.16 working
 
 - M20 needs a hardware based Services PIC to create ls- or lsq- interfaces
 - ML PIC which you currently have in your M20 can only do MLPPP and FRF.15
   style MLFR. Hence you will need either LS PIC or AS/AS2 PIC to do FRF.16.
 
 Thanks,
 Nilesh.
 

Nilesh,

Ok, sounds good.  Thank you for your assistance today in solving this problem.

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Re: [j-nsp] 1000 VRRP instances per IFD and IRB

2010-07-08 Thread Stefan Fouant
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ross Vandegrift
 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:09 PM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] 1000 VRRP instances per IFD and IRB
 
 Hey guys,
 
 Accoridng to our account team, VRRP scales to about 1000 instances per
IFD.
 Not that I want to scale beyond Juniper's tested specs, but has anyone
 pushed on this?
 
 Anyone have any experience on many VRRP instances per IFD?  How many?
 We're planning on doing vrrp inheritance so only a single IFL is actually
 sending keepalives to keep that work to a minimum.
 
 Is there any way to get more IRB IFDs?  Per-interface limits aren't a
major
 problem for ethernet interfaces - this is a datacenter, we run a few more
 cables.  But it's crippling for virtual interfaces.  We'd love to toss
4000 or so
 customer VLANs into individual VPLS with IRB, but we can't justify the
cost of
 4 pairs of MXes to get more IFDs for VRRP instances.

See if you can push your account team to discuss their Stratus convergence
strategy on the MX and their other data center products - their so-called
3-2-1 Data Center network architecture strategy.  You might be surprised to
find that you probably won't have to run VRRP in the very near future...

Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIEx2
www.shortestpathfirst.net
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