Re: [j-nsp] Back-reference in JunOS regular expressions
Le samedi 16 juillet 2011 à 15:17 -0700, Jonathan Lassoff a écrit : Jeff, Michael -- these are both totally reasonable cases I didn't even consider. The Juniper clue wiki article is a really good example as to why. I wonder why it's not implemented. It does seem relatively easy considering the fact that there is already some support for regular expressions anyway. Yes. I agree. Support even for back-reference in other context (like 'replace') than 'AS-path'... as a matter of fact. I guess a large-enough customer hasn't made an ultimatum for Juniper yet. :p About to formalize a feature request (not an ultimatum). ;) Cheers, mh --j ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
Hello, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
Hi, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I did something similar on an SRX: - user@router show configuration interfaces fe-0/0/6 mtu 1800; encapsulation ethernet-ccc; unit 0; - This a pseudowire carrying a dot1q trunk. I suspect the config on an EX will be the same, but as I've said, I've only tried on SRX. Alex ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
It's probably easier to use QinQ. Doug -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches Hello, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
Can the MX80 handle QinQ? Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core? I don't think the EX 4200 can do that. If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80 MX80-EX4200)? - Original Message - From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches It's probably easier to use QinQ. Doug -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches Hello, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
We've used EX4200s as 10Gig customer demarc in a few situations and
do just that. Q-in-Q on the EX4200 customer port so you don't care
what VLANs the cust is sending, trunk port out to your MX80, and use
'input-vlan-map pop' with something like 'encapsulation vlan-ccc' on
the MX80 to remove the outer tag. Not sure what you're planning to do
on the MX80, but we dump ours into customer-specific L2VPNs. I don't
have EX4200 configs handy, but your MX80 interface side might
resemble:
[edit interfaces xe-y/y/y]
snip MTU, autoneg, etc stuff
flexible-vlan-tagging;
encapsulation flexible-ethernet-services;
unit QinQtag { # Unit number is arbitrary, but keep it simple
and match the VLAN ID if you can.
vlan-id QinQtag;
encapsulation vlan-ccc;
input-vlan-map pop;
output-vlan-map push;
}
HTH,
David
On 17 July 2011 13:02, Matthew S. Crocker matt...@corp.crocker.com wrote:
Can the MX80 handle QinQ?
Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core? I don't think
the EX 4200 can do that.
If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer
interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80
MX80-EX4200)?
- Original Message -
From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net
To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
It's probably easier to use QinQ.
Doug
-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S.
Crocker
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
Hello,
I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200
switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s
and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the
docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It
isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e.
I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can
I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across
my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to
know the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
The MX probably has the best support for QinQ I've seen. -Original Message- From: Matthew S. Crocker [mailto:matt...@corp.crocker.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:02 PM To: Doug Hanks Cc: Matthew S. Crocker; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches Can the MX80 handle QinQ? Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core? I don't think the EX 4200 can do that. If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80 MX80-EX4200)? - Original Message - From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches It's probably easier to use QinQ. Doug -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches Hello, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
You can create a ccc based on port and just everything that comes in the port to the other end regardless of vlan or encapsulation. There is also no mac learning to worry about. This in my experience is easier to manage than q-in-q which requires mac learning and spanning-tree. The down side is that each port requires a dedicated LSP, so 48 ports would create 48 new LSP's between the two devices. I'm not sure what the LSP limitations are but I would assume it's pretty high. 2011/7/17 Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com Hello, I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch. I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80. I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me). Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80. I would prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
Does anyone have any comments on the switches Dell OEMs from Juniper? Are they truly the same? We meet with them last week regarding server and storage for a new DaaS build out. They told us they can offer us Dell networking hardware that they OEM from Juniper at a much lower cost than Juniper direct. Cheers Ryan ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
On 18/07/2011, at 9:37 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone have any comments on the switches Dell OEMs from Juniper? Are they truly the same? We meet with them last week regarding server and storage for a new DaaS build out. They told us they can offer us Dell networking hardware that they OEM from Juniper at a much lower cost than Juniper direct. DISCLAIMER: I work for a Juniper Partner, and this information was provided by a customer of mine, so your mileage may vary: - Same hardware, same software - Support-wise you have Dell support in front of the JTAC (eg: another layer) - Pricing - when you buy the switches with Dell servers they can do all sorts pricing magic to make the switches look cheap by absorbing the price in the server margin. If you do decide to travel this road, find out if they will provide the cheap price when you just need to buy one standalone switch in 6 months time. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone have any comments on the switches Dell OEMs from Juniper? Are they truly the same? We meet with them last week regarding server and storage for a new DaaS build out. They told us they can offer us Dell networking hardware that they OEM from Juniper at a much lower cost than Juniper direct. Cheers Ryan ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp The hardware is truly the same, minus a Dell logo, and Powered by JunOS sticker. Support wise, you are supposed to call Dell first for tier1/2 issues, and Dell can escalate to JTAC when necessary. We actually got better pricing when we worked with a Juniper direct account manager, funneling the purchasing through Dell. Juniper was able to approve larger discounts on Juniper branded equipment, than Dell could do on the Dell re-brand stuff. YMMV. Either way, you're getting real Juniper equipment, so you can't really lose. -- Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
Hi Ben Thank you this is helpful. Right now I need to decide if we are going to go with Dell or HP for new build outs we need to complete in Ireland and Australia. With that we need to decide what we want to do in the way of in the rack switches. In the States we have switched from cisco to Juniper on a few small deployments and have been very happy. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Ben Dale [mailto:bd...@comlinx.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:07 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper On 18/07/2011, at 9:37 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Does anyone have any comments on the switches Dell OEMs from Juniper? Are they truly the same? We meet with them last week regarding server and storage for a new DaaS build out. They told us they can offer us Dell networking hardware that they OEM from Juniper at a much lower cost than Juniper direct. DISCLAIMER: I work for a Juniper Partner, and this information was provided by a customer of mine, so your mileage may vary: - Same hardware, same software - Support-wise you have Dell support in front of the JTAC (eg: another layer) - Pricing - when you buy the switches with Dell servers they can do all sorts pricing magic to make the switches look cheap by absorbing the price in the server margin. If you do decide to travel this road, find out if they will provide the cheap price when you just need to buy one standalone switch in 6 months time. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
We do have a Juniper account rep so I will have a chat with her. I would much prefer to deal directly with JTAC. It has been about 6 years since I dealt with Dell but I did not find their support all that great. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Brent Jones [mailto:br...@servuhome.net] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:53 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does anyone have any comments on the switches Dell OEMs from Juniper? Are they truly the same? We meet with them last week regarding server and storage for a new DaaS build out. They told us they can offer us Dell networking hardware that they OEM from Juniper at a much lower cost than Juniper direct. Cheers Ryan ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp The hardware is truly the same, minus a Dell logo, and Powered by JunOS sticker. Support wise, you are supposed to call Dell first for tier1/2 issues, and Dell can escalate to JTAC when necessary. We actually got better pricing when we worked with a Juniper direct account manager, funneling the purchasing through Dell. Juniper was able to approve larger discounts on Juniper branded equipment, than Dell could do on the Dell re-brand stuff. YMMV. Either way, you're getting real Juniper equipment, so you can't really lose. -- Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Dell - Juniper
Ryan, On 18.07.11 02:59, Ryan Finnesey wrote: We do have a Juniper account rep so I will have a chat with her. I would much prefer to deal directly with JTAC. It has been about 6 years since I dealt with Dell but I did not find their support all that great. as Dell switches their OEM around at least every couple of years, if you go with Dell network hardware, you might end up with having to buy rebranded other vendors in the future, depending on what ends up in project plans. Kind regards, Felix -- Felix Schüren Head of Network --- Host Europe GmbH - http://www.hosteurope.de Welserstraße 14 - 51149 Köln - Germany Telefon: 0800 467 8387 - Fax: +49 180 5 66 3233 (*) HRB 28495 Amtsgericht Köln - USt-IdNr.: DE187370678 Geschäftsführer: Patrick Pulvermüller, Thomas Vollrath (*) 0,14 EUR/Min. aus dem dt. Festnetz; maximal 0,42 EUR/Min. aus den dt. Mobilfunknetzen ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
