Re: [j-nsp] QFX3500 optics lock?

2012-01-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-10 07:26 +0100), Daniel Roesen wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:02:14PM -0600, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
  FWIW they've actually had serious problems interoperating correctly with 
  copper SFPs from other vendors, on EX and MX. There are still unsolved 
  issues with ports showing link state up despite nothing being plugged 
  in. :)
 
 Juniper uses Methode Elec. OEM SFPs. Those work fine.
 Stay away from Finisar units, they have such phantom link problems.

JNPR actually claimed that this problem was going to be fixed on 10.4R7
(PR665918, by you). I got such claim in ticket 2011-0725-0041.

I've heard elsewhere that it has not been fixed. I don't care any more,
sourced enough methode cuSFPs from flexoptix.

MX80 experiences this same problem with with even JNPR optics for ISG and
SRX at least. It boggles the mind vendor would internally want to use
different optics for different vendors, seems losing bet.

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Re: [j-nsp] QFX3500 optics lock?

2012-01-10 Thread Phil Mayers

On 01/10/2012 12:35 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:


In theory the way it's supposed to work is that a cryptographically
verifiable code based on the serial number (probably some sort of hash,
but no clue what they actually use) is written to the EEPROM. That way,
Cisco can give the actual manufacturers a list of SN's and codes equal
to the number of units they're purchasing, to prevent the classic
counterfeiting problem of the factory in China running during the day
for the customer and at night for themselves.


That's something I've heard before, but to be frank it's always seemed a 
bit... highly organised, shall I say?... for the vendors to actually 
accomplish.


Are you convinced that they're actually doing this? If so, I don't 
suppose you could share the evidence that convinced you? ;o)


If nothing else, one wonders how things like the widely-available XYZ 
Compatible optics (or the flexBox) would work if this validation were 
taking place.

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Re: [j-nsp] QFX3500 optics lock?

2012-01-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:11:43AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
 On (2012-01-10 07:26 +0100), Daniel Roesen wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:02:14PM -0600, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
   FWIW they've actually had serious problems interoperating correctly with 
   copper SFPs from other vendors, on EX and MX. There are still unsolved 
   issues with ports showing link state up despite nothing being plugged 
   in. :)
  
  Juniper uses Methode Elec. OEM SFPs. Those work fine.
  Stay away from Finisar units, they have such phantom link problems.
 
 JNPR actually claimed that this problem was going to be fixed on 10.4R7
 (PR665918, by you). I got such claim in ticket 2011-0725-0041.
 
 I've heard elsewhere that it has not been fixed. I don't care any more,
 sourced enough methode cuSFPs from flexoptix.
 
 MX80 experiences this same problem with with even JNPR optics for ISG and
 SRX at least. It boggles the mind vendor would internally want to use
 different optics for different vendors, seems losing bet.

Not to mention using the same model numbers for MX SFPs and EX SFPs
(the order numbers are different) so once you have them installed (or
even out of their original packaging), you can't tell which is which,
and then having support issues when one works and the other doesn't
because you used it in the wrong platform.  Been there, done that.
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Re: [j-nsp] MX VPLS Trunk with VLAN rewriting

2012-01-10 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Humair Ali humair.s@gmail.com [2011-12-23 16:41]:
 Sebastian,
 
 you should be able to achieve what you want by using Virtual Switch Routing
 instance instead of VPLS routing instance.
 
 you can confirgure a Virtual Switch instance with protocol VPLS in it , and
 create a bridge-domains to allow all vlans , that should allow you to be
 able to create a trunk in VPLS, and allowing all vlans

FYI:

I asked the people I know at Juniper the same question and they also
told me to use virtual-switch. But this only works with interface-type
trunk, and I need single units because 1 physical interface has
multiple VLANs which must be added to different VPLS instances or
other services on a per-unit basis.

instance-type virtual-switch;
##
## Warning: Only interface with 'interface-mode' is allowed in a virtual-switch
##

The other option was to use one VPLS instance per VLAN which seems to
be the only option available to us.

Regards

Sebastian


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Re: [j-nsp] junos 10 - send syslog to non standard port

2012-01-10 Thread Loos, Christian
Hi Artur,
checked it with SRX100 (JUNOS 11.4R1.6) and it is not a hidden command:
[edit system syslog host 1.1.1.1]
root@host# set ?
Possible completions:
  allow-duplicates Do not suppress the repeated message
  any  All facilities
+ apply-groups Groups from which to inherit configuration data
+ apply-groups-except  Don't inherit configuration data from these groups
  authorizationAuthorization system
  change-log   Configuration change log
  conflict-log Configuration conflict log
  daemon   Various system processes
  dfc  Dynamic flow capture
  explicit-priorityInclude priority and facility in messages
  external Local external applications
  facility-overrideAlternate facility for logging to remote host
  firewall Firewall filtering system
  ftp  FTP process
  interactive-commands  Commands executed by the UI
  kernel   Kernel
  log-prefix   Prefix for all logging to this host
  matchRegular expression for lines to be logged
  ntp  NTP process
  pfe  Packet Forwarding Engine
  port Port number  --- here!
  security Security related
  source-address   Use specified address as source address
 structured-data  Log system message in structured format
  user User processes

Viele Grüße / Kind regards,
Christian Loos


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Re: [j-nsp] junos 10 - send syslog to non standard port

2012-01-10 Thread Artur Makutunowicz
On Tuesday 10 of January 2012 14:46:55 Loos, Christian wrote:
 Hi Artur,
 checked it with SRX100 (JUNOS 11.4R1.6) and it is not a hidden command:

The question was about Junos 10. Port command was hidden there:
[edit]
root@firewall# run show version
Hostname: firewall
Model: srx210h-poe
JUNOS Software Release [10.4R7.5]

[edit]
root@firewall# set system syslog host 10.10.10.10 ?  
Possible completions:
  any  All facilities
+ apply-groups Groups from which to inherit configuration data
+ apply-groups-except  Don't inherit configuration data from these groups
  authorizationAuthorization system
  change-log   Configuration change log
  conflict-log Configuration conflict log
  daemon   Various system processes
  dfc  Dynamic flow capture
  explicit-priorityInclude priority and facility in messages
  external Local external applications
  facility-overrideAlternate facility for logging to remote host
  firewall Firewall filtering system
  ftp  FTP process
  interactive-commands  Commands executed by the UI
  kernel   Kernel
  log-prefix   Prefix for all logging to this host
  matchRegular expression for lines to be logged
  ntp  NTP process
  pfe  Packet Forwarding Engine
  security Security related
  source-address   Use specified address as source address
  user User processes

Best regards,
Artur
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Re: [j-nsp] MX VPLS Trunk with VLAN rewriting

2012-01-10 Thread Humair Ali
Hi

thanks for your feedback,

just to clarify , you want to use specific unit for specific vpls instance ?

if you need specfic range of vlan per unit for multiple VPLS instance
,can you try the following below,  this is not what we have in
production ,  but it should work, or work around it

set interfaces xe-1/1/0 flexible-ethernet-services
set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 10 encapsulation vlan-bridge
set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 10 family bridge interface-mode trunk
set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 10 family bridge vlan-id-list 100-500

set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 20 encapsulation vlan-bridge
set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 20 family bridge interface-mode trunk
set interfaces xe-1/1/0 unit 20 family bridge vlan-id-list 540-4094

then you can apply xe-1/1/0.10 to vpls-instance A  and xe-1/1/0.20 to
vpls instance B

let me know if it works , i would be interested to know

thanks

On 10 January 2012 15:57, Sebastian Wiesinger
juniper-...@ml.karotte.org wrote:
 * Humair Ali humair.s@gmail.com [2011-12-23 16:41]:
 Sebastian,

 you should be able to achieve what you want by using Virtual Switch Routing
 instance instead of VPLS routing instance.

 you can confirgure a Virtual Switch instance with protocol VPLS in it , and
 create a bridge-domains to allow all vlans , that should allow you to be
 able to create a trunk in VPLS, and allowing all vlans

 FYI:

 I asked the people I know at Juniper the same question and they also
 told me to use virtual-switch. But this only works with interface-type
 trunk, and I need single units because 1 physical interface has
 multiple VLANs which must be added to different VPLS instances or
 other services on a per-unit basis.

 instance-type virtual-switch;
 ##
 ## Warning: Only interface with 'interface-mode' is allowed in a 
 virtual-switch
 ##

 The other option was to use one VPLS instance per VLAN which seems to
 be the only option available to us.

 Regards

 Sebastian


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