Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper Control Plan Policy (CoPP)

2012-08-23 Thread Doug Hanks
This should walk you through most of your questions:

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one
/fundamentals-series/securing-routing-engine/

Doug





On 8/22/12 8:35 PM, Md. Jahangir Hossain jrjahan...@yahoo.com wrote:

Dear all friend:

Wishes all are fine.

I quit new in juniper OS platform . i need some information about juniper
Control Plan Policy (CoPP). i read  the RFC 6192 of  Protect Router
Control Plane which is:


http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6192#appendix-A.2



After reading the RFC 6192 i have a  little query as like,In cisco router
we put input policy on control plan.

as like;

control-plane service-policy input COPPBut in Juniper router we put input
policy into loopback interface according to this RFC .

Here this is:

interfaces { lo0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }Based on my question is, how
juniper router loopback interface control all router control plan ? or i
need to put this input filter policy individually on different
interfaces as like:


interfaces{ em0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }

interfaces { em1 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }
it would be nice for me can anyone please confirm me about this
configuration .








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Re: [j-nsp] EX4200 Virtual chassis ??

2012-08-23 Thread Tore Anderson
* Rachid DHOU

 We have two EX4200 switches, mainly used for L2 functionalities.
 We want to add two new EX4200 Switches and we want to connect them with the
 old switches.
 
 i have two possibilities :
 
 * Either, interconnect them and control everything with STP.
 * or use Virtual chassis.
 
 
 Please advise, what is the best way ? did you try Virtual chassis in EX ?
 Do you have other options ?

We have several VCs from both EX4200s and EX4500s (no mixed VCs though),
and disregarding some troubles with the former when the EX product line
was brand spanking new several years ago, they've been rock solid and I
wouldn't hesitate to recommend it over a traditional approach with STP.
You'll get one management interface, and you can build a loop-free
redundant network without STP wasting your bandwidth on blocked ports.

The core switch in one of our data centres is a two-node EX4500 VC with
LAGs to each downstream switch/device and upstream routers. The LAGs has
at least one member from each physical node in the VC, so it's all fully
redundant and I'm very happy with the setup.

The largest downside with it is that upgrading JUNOS, you will have a
30-60 sec downtime on the LACP and OSPF adjacencies, due to the fact
that a VC will not form if the member nodes have different JUNOS
versions. So after first having upgraded the line-card node, when
rebooting the routing-engine node, the upgraded line-card must start
everything from scratch when assuming the routing-engine role. This is
about to improve though, as I hear JUNOS 12.1 has gained support for
NSSU. Haven't tried it myself though, so I don't know if it's mature
enough to be trusted quite yet. (Interested in hearing about any
experiences though.)

BTW: Make sure to enable no-split-detection in your VC, or your two
EX4200s will be mutually dependent and you'll have no HA.

Best regards,
-- 
Tore Anderson
Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com
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Re: [j-nsp] SRX MPLS

2012-08-23 Thread Johan Borch
I saw the following exceptions for SRX-series:

VPLS multihoming, which allows connecting a CE device to multiple PE
routers to provide redundant connectivity, is not supported on J Series or
SRX Series devices

I'm going to have two SRX's on each site and using vrrp between them, will
I hit this exception then?

Regards
Johan

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:

 On 15/08/12 15:29, Johan Borch wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a design question regarding MPLS.

 I'm planning to create a MPLS rings with 4-8 SRX240 devices in packet mode
 and the main purpose is L3VPN/VPLS

 p1-p2-p3-p4-p5-p1 (p5 connects back to p1)

 My budget is low for this and the srx240 is cheap, we will push max 1Gbps.


 That should be ok. I've had hundreds of megabits of MPLS out of the SRX210.



 For example in some sites there will be two SRX and the plan is to use
 these two as P/PE and use VRRP for customer equipment. At the same time
 they will be P routers for other sites.

 Example site:

 P1P3-P4--P5
   \  /
  (vrrp)
  Customer equipment

 Do I make any sense? Will this work? :)


 Should do. We use them in similar (but not identical) configurations.

 I've never tested VRRP on them, however.
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Re: [j-nsp] SRX MPLS

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Kawchuk
Err VPLS Implies Layer 2 only. 

Where is the VRP runninng in-between? Are you doing vlan-id inside the VPLS 
instance for normalization, then binding an irb.x into it? I dont think that 
works in SRX/J either. (l3 within VPLS).

- CK.

On 2012-08-23, at 6:39 PM, Johan Borch wrote:

 VPLS multihoming, which allows connecting a CE device to multiple PE
 routers to provide redundant connectivity, is not supported on J Series or
 SRX Series devices
 
 I'm going to have two SRX's on each site and using vrrp between them, will
 I hit this exception then?


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Re: [j-nsp] SRX MPLS

2012-08-23 Thread Johan Borch
Your'e right of course :)

My question was more how the VPLS multihoming will affect this setup.

Regards
Johan

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.comwrote:

 Err VPLS Implies Layer 2 only.

 Where is the VRP runninng in-between? Are you doing vlan-id inside the
 VPLS instance for normalization, then binding an irb.x into it? I dont
 think that works in SRX/J either. (l3 within VPLS).

 - CK.

 On 2012-08-23, at 6:39 PM, Johan Borch wrote:

  VPLS multihoming, which allows connecting a CE device to multiple PE
  routers to provide redundant connectivity, is not supported on J Series
 or
  SRX Series devices
 
  I'm going to have two SRX's on each site and using vrrp between them,
 will
  I hit this exception then?


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Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper Control Plan Policy (CoPP)

2012-08-23 Thread Md. Jahangir Hossain
Thanks Doug for your information.





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To: Md. Jahangir Hossain jrjahan...@yahoo.com; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper Control Plan Policy (CoPP)

This should walk you through most of your questions:

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/community/junos/training-certification/day-one
/fundamentals-series/securing-routing-engine/

Doug





On 8/22/12 8:35 PM, Md. Jahangir Hossain jrjahan...@yahoo.com wrote:

Dear all friend:

Wishes all are fine.

I quit new in juniper OS platform . i need some information about juniper
Control Plan Policy (CoPP). i read  the RFC 6192 of  Protect Router
Control Plane which is:


http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6192#appendix-A.2



After reading the RFC 6192 i have a  little query as like,In cisco router
we put input policy on control plan.

as like;

control-plane service-policy input COPPBut in Juniper router we put input
policy into loopback interface according to this RFC .

Here this is:

interfaces { lo0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }Based on my question is, how
juniper router loopback interface control all router control plan ? or i
need to put this input filter policy individually on different
interfaces as like:


interfaces{ em0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }

interfaces { em1 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input
protect-router-control-plane; }
it would be nice for me can anyone please confirm me about this
configuration .








Thanks
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Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper Control Plan Policy (CoPP)

2012-08-23 Thread Md. Jahangir Hossain
Thanks Apurva for your information.








 From: apurva modh modh.apu...@gmail.com
To: Md. Jahangir Hossain jrjahan...@yahoo.com 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper Control Plan Policy (CoPP)
 

All the Routing engine bound traffic into Juniper is handled through the 
loopback interface. So if you apply the input direction filter on the loopback 
interface, it would simulate the exact behavior of the control plane filter of 
cisco. You dont need to apply protect routing-engine filter to physical 
interfaces. 

Hope this solves your query.

Regards,



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Md. Jahangir Hossain jrjahan...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Dear all friend:

Wishes all are fine.

I quit new in juniper OS platform . i need some information about juniper 
Control Plan Policy (CoPP). i read  the RFC 6192 of  Protect Router Control 
Plane which is:


http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6192#appendix-A.2



After reading the RFC 6192 i have a  little query as like,In cisco router we 
put input policy on control plan.

as like;

control-plane service-policy input COPPBut in Juniper router we put input 
policy into loopback interface according to this RFC .

Here this is:

interfaces { lo0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input 
protect-router-control-plane; }Based on my question is, how
juniper router loopback interface control all router control plan ? or i need 
to put this input filter policy individually on different
interfaces as like:


interfaces{ em0 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input 
protect-router-control-plane; }

interfaces { em1 { unit 0 { family inet { filter input 
protect-router-control-plane; }
it would be nice for me can anyone please confirm me about this configuration .








Thanks
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[j-nsp] Arbor peak flow sp and TMS

2012-08-23 Thread EZ Joe
Hi expert

Do Juniper have equivalent product?

With Regard
Wan T

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[j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread JA
Hi

I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.

Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
while Juniper has no provision for such power cords. If European power
cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.

Can anyone recommend some alternative or if anyone faced similar situation?
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread Julien Goodwin
I double checked the hardware guide to ensure, and they're not fixed cable:

http://www.juniper.net/shared/img/products/mx-series/mx960/mx960-rear-high.jpg

(If you're using the high-cap supplies there's a second input on the
PSU's themselves)

So just 8x C18-19 cables would be fine.

On 23/08/12 23:59, JA wrote:
 Hi
 
 I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.
 
 Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
 while Juniper has no provision for such power cords. If European power
 cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
 outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
 easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.
 
 Can anyone recommend some alternative or if anyone faced similar situation?
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread OBrien, Will
We run 208v to ours, which reduces the amp load. Then we use 1u rackable 
tripplite PDUs on 30a circuits with C13s and C19s and C19-C20 cables.

Will

On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:59 AM, JA wrote:

 Hi
 
 I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.
 
 Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
 while Juniper has no provision for such power cords. If European power
 cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
 outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
 easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.
 
 Can anyone recommend some alternative or if anyone faced similar situation?
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread Scott Harvanek
You can easily get 30A PDUs with L6-20Rs which is what Juniper 
recommends for the MX960...


e.g. 
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7893


Geist, ServerTech, etc. all also make many many options.

-Scott H.
-Login Inc.
On 08/23/2012 07:59 AM, JA wrote:

Hi

I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.

Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
while Juniper has no provision for such power cords. If European power
cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.

Can anyone recommend some alternative or if anyone faced similar situation?
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread joel jaeggli

On 8/23/12 6:59 AM, JA wrote:

Hi

I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.

Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
while Juniper has no provision for such power cords.
we use c19-c20 cables. we have a standard supplier for those so I don't 
believe we're using a juniper p/n


the device (well the whole rack) is fed off two PDUs with a 30a 3 phase 
service for each

  If European power
cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.

Can anyone recommend some alternative or if anyone faced similar situation?
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

2012-08-23 Thread Patrick Dickey
Just FYI:
The Juniper SKU for the MX c19/c20 power cord is CBL-MX-PWR-C19-C20 if anyone 
needed it.
 
 
Patrick



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To: JA mjaferab...@gmail.com 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX960 AC power strip

On 8/23/12 6:59 AM, JA wrote:
 Hi

 I need advice if someone is having an MX960 up on AC power.

 Usually high capacity (32A) power bars (PDU) come with C13 or C19 outlets
 while Juniper has no provision for such power cords.
we use c19-c20 cables. we have a standard supplier for those so I don't 
believe we're using a juniper p/n

the device (well the whole rack) is fed off two PDUs with a 30a 3 phase 
service for each
  If European power
 cords are ordered with MX960, the CEE7/7 plug can be connected to Schuko
 outlets. But there is no Schuko PDU that supports more than 16A. One can
 easily exceed 16A if two power supplies are connected on same PDU.

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Re: [j-nsp] SRX MPLS

2012-08-23 Thread Chris Kawchuk
Shouldn't affect it in the classical BGP active./backup sense; only 1 'vrf' is 
active in a multi-homing BGP setup.

However, since the SRX/J doesn't do that, both will end up being active -  
You'll need a way to suppress one of them from getting any traffic. Perhaps 
think about using an EX4200 underneath using an RTG to each SRX at layer 2 to 
prevent the loop.

Should have zero effect on vrrp/layer-3 stuff.

- CK.


On 23/08/2012, at 7:47 PM, Johan Borch johan.bo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Your'e right of course :)
  
 My question was more how the VPLS multihoming will affect this setup.
  
 Regards
 Johan
 
 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Err VPLS Implies Layer 2 only.
 
 Where is the VRP runninng in-between? Are you doing vlan-id inside the VPLS 
 instance for normalization, then binding an irb.x into it? I dont think that 
 works in SRX/J either. (l3 within VPLS).
 
 - CK.
 
 On 2012-08-23, at 6:39 PM, Johan Borch wrote:
 
  VPLS multihoming, which allows connecting a CE device to multiple PE
  routers to provide redundant connectivity, is not supported on J Series or
  SRX Series devices
 
  I'm going to have two SRX's on each site and using vrrp between them, will
  I hit this exception then?
 
 


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