Re: [j-nsp] MS NLB multicast mode and EX 12.x new behaviour issues

2013-04-30 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee [2013-04-28 19:12]:
 By 'mixed' you surely mean painful. E-s filters do not work for STP,
 period. STP traffic is captured to RE first, bypassing all ingress
 filters and is then sent out from RE to be flooded as normal
 multicast.

Hi,

I can't confirm this. We have working bpdufilters on EX since at least
11.2 by manually filtering with a firewall filter. I'm pretty sure
that it worked in 10.4 but can't find a current example.

Regards

Sebastian

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[j-nsp] Unable to ping all NE when MAC are learned in Bridge group

2013-04-30 Thread Jason Fortier
Hey Guys,

We are migrating some NE to new MX-5 LER.  I have started with moving mgmt
to an IRB,  IRB is in the bridge domain and in the routing instance.  When
cut over about half the NE are no longer accessible.

When the NE are cut back to old default GW (resides on a c7609 within a RI)
and pass through the MX as L2 with in the bridge domain  only it all works
fine.  Only when cutover to the NE PE does it break on some devices.

All routing appears to be working as some NE with in the subnet
are accessible.  not sure why other are not?  any idea would be appreciated.

jfortier@routermx5# show
description management irb;
mtu 1600;
unit 101 {
description Management VLAN101;
family inet {
address 10.64.0.1/24;
}
}

jfortier@routermx5# show bridge-domains
101 {
description Management VLAN 101;
domain-type bridge;
vlan-id 101;
interface ge-1/0/1.101;
interface ge-1/0/2.101;
interface ae1.101;
interface ae0.101;
interface ge-1/0/0.101;
routing-interface irb.101;
}

jfortier@routermx5# show routing-instances mgmt_nes
instance-type vrf;
interface irb.101;
interface irb.102;
route-distinguisher 10.92.6.20:3141;
vrf-target target:64512:101;
vrf-table-label;


Jason
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Re: [j-nsp] Unable to ping all NE when MAC are learned in Bridge group

2013-04-30 Thread Alex Arseniev
gARP is not reliable and Your NE devices' ARP cache still contains old MAC 
from old default GW.
You have to revisit them one by one and clear their arp caches, or change 
IRB MAC to that of old default GW' MAC.

HTH
Thanks
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Fortier jasoncfort...@gmail.com

To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:18 PM
Subject: [j-nsp] Unable to ping all NE when MAC are learned in Bridge group



Hey Guys,

We are migrating some NE to new MX-5 LER.  I have started with moving mgmt
to an IRB,  IRB is in the bridge domain and in the routing instance.  When
cut over about half the NE are no longer accessible.

When the NE are cut back to old default GW (resides on a c7609 within a 
RI)

and pass through the MX as L2 with in the bridge domain  only it all works
fine.  Only when cutover to the NE PE does it break on some devices.

All routing appears to be working as some NE with in the subnet
are accessible.  not sure why other are not?  any idea would be 
appreciated.


jfortier@routermx5# show
description management irb;
mtu 1600;
unit 101 {
   description Management VLAN101;
   family inet {
   address 10.64.0.1/24;
   }
}

jfortier@routermx5# show bridge-domains
101 {
   description Management VLAN 101;
   domain-type bridge;
   vlan-id 101;
   interface ge-1/0/1.101;
   interface ge-1/0/2.101;
   interface ae1.101;
   interface ae0.101;
   interface ge-1/0/0.101;
   routing-interface irb.101;
}

jfortier@routermx5# show routing-instances mgmt_nes
instance-type vrf;
interface irb.101;
interface irb.102;
route-distinguisher 10.92.6.20:3141;
vrf-target target:64512:101;
vrf-table-label;


Jason
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Re: [j-nsp] Unable to ping all NE when MAC are learned in Bridge group

2013-04-30 Thread Jason Fortier
I have tried clearing arp for most of the devices,  I have also moved the
same config to MX480 PE,  All NE become reachable. Below is a simple
network layout.

NE-MX5-1--MX5-2MX480C7609--MGMTNETWORK

When MX5-1 becomes a PE some of the NE be come unreachable.

One thing of note it that the MX5-1 mpls interface is on LU 2500 on VLAN
2500.  other then that the same FF are plied on the MX480



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Jason Fortier jasoncfort...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Guys,

 We are migrating some NE to new MX-5 LER.  I have started with moving mgmt
 to an IRB,  IRB is in the bridge domain and in the routing instance.  When
 cut over about half the NE are no longer accessible.

 When the NE are cut back to old default GW (resides on a c7609 within a
 RI) and pass through the MX as L2 with in the bridge domain  only it all
 works fine.  Only when cutover to the NE PE does it break on some devices.

 All routing appears to be working as some NE with in the subnet
 are accessible.  not sure why other are not?  any idea would be appreciated.

 jfortier@routermx5# show
 description management irb;
 mtu 1600;
 unit 101 {
 description Management VLAN101;
 family inet {
 address 10.64.0.1/24;
 }
 }

 jfortier@routermx5# show bridge-domains
 101 {
 description Management VLAN 101;
 domain-type bridge;
 vlan-id 101;
 interface ge-1/0/1.101;
 interface ge-1/0/2.101;
 interface ae1.101;
 interface ae0.101;
 interface ge-1/0/0.101;
 routing-interface irb.101;
 }

 jfortier@routermx5# show routing-instances mgmt_nes
 instance-type vrf;
 interface irb.101;
 interface irb.102;
 route-distinguisher 10.92.6.20:3141;
 vrf-target target:64512:101;
 vrf-table-label;


 Jason




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Re: [j-nsp] Fwd: bgp license mx480 MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP

2013-04-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, April 26, 2013 06:21:54 PM John pp wrote:

 i have been told its an honor system however
 someone i know bought the license and it was just a piece
 of paper saying they could use it

The rumour is that at some point in the future, Juniper will 
add capability in newer release of code that physically 
enforces these licenses in software/hardware.

So while it could be just a paper/honour license today, it 
might not be tomorrow, in which case you either don't 
upgrade Junos or you buy the license.

I generally don't like licenses (especially now when both 
Cisco and Juniper are going stir-crazy with them in recent 
years), but I really don't like the ones that don't make any 
sense to me. With all my rumbling with the vendors, licenses 
appear to be a point of view perpetuated by vendors that 
are inspired by customers with varying needs and so few 
boxes to meet them.

Oh well...

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Problems with Link Aggregation

2013-04-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, April 22, 2013 04:54:48 PM Pavel Lunin wrote:

 For L3 (bridged and routed) EX switches construct hash
 value from several (6, IIRC) least significant bits of
 L3 and L4 addresses/ports. MAC addresses (and only MAC
 addresses) are used for non IP bridged traffic. So, say,
 (with an exception of EX8200, which can has labels) all
 MPLS streams between a given pair of routers will follow
 a single link in spite of labels and payload.

And therein lies the issue - well, for us anyway.

I need to find out whether the EX4550 have this issue as 
well.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Problems with Link Aggregation

2013-04-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, April 22, 2013 10:16:10 AM Ivan Ivanov wrote:

 http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=contentid=KB
 10926actp=searchviewlocale=en_USsearchid=136661818
 
 Here is written that it uses layer 2,3 and 4 for load
 balancing hash algorithm.

Which doesn't explicitly include MPLS traffic.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Best route reflector platform

2013-04-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 02:24:18 PM Richard A 
Steenbergen wrote:

 I really can't imagine
 that the benefit of selling an extra MX240 chassis, even
 if sold at regular price, is worth the money being lost
 from everyone else.

One would hazard that the twisted thinking of someone at 
Juniper is that get yet-another-MX chassis into the 
customer's network, and hope that some bean-counting schmuck 
will say to the Engineering team, Hey, why do you want me 
to buy another MX chassis yet you have this big thing which 
can run both your route reflector function and the Multicast 
video services the Board is asking us to push by Q4'some 
year?.

Since new products need low capital to get off the ground, 
Juniper will see an order for new line cards for what was a 
dedicated route reflector, and perhaps down the line, expect 
the customer to order another chassis so they can get back 
there dedicated route reflector once the new product starts 
making money...

... or something silly like all that. Who knows what Juniper 
are thinking? I stopped caring.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Fwd: bgp license mx480 MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP

2013-04-30 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
In the Release Notes for JUNOS 12 something for EX, there is an
example of commit error when you use a protocol without a license and
you cannot use it. I am missing the right link now but it stood out as
it was the first time I saw it.

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:
 On Friday, April 26, 2013 06:21:54 PM John pp wrote:

 i have been told its an honor system however
 someone i know bought the license and it was just a piece
 of paper saying they could use it

 The rumour is that at some point in the future, Juniper will
 add capability in newer release of code that physically
 enforces these licenses in software/hardware.

 So while it could be just a paper/honour license today, it
 might not be tomorrow, in which case you either don't
 upgrade Junos or you buy the license.

 I generally don't like licenses (especially now when both
 Cisco and Juniper are going stir-crazy with them in recent
 years), but I really don't like the ones that don't make any
 sense to me. With all my rumbling with the vendors, licenses
 appear to be a point of view perpetuated by vendors that
 are inspired by customers with varying needs and so few
 boxes to meet them.

 Oh well...

 Mark.

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[j-nsp] EX4550 MPLS CCC

2013-04-30 Thread Giuliano Medalha
Hello, Good evening,

We bought some JUNIPER EX4550 and put in a simple topology and simple
configuration, trying to use MPLS CCC togheter with tagged Vlans (ethernet
switching). We come with JUNIPER and they said not to be possible in this
case, use two encapsulation types on the same interface (like MX ...).

We then made ​​the separation of types of traffic and transportation using
physical ports. However, when we set up the interface for support VLANs mode
CCC (vlan tagging encapsulation vlan-ccc) ... after the commit it's a
warning that will only support vlan-id 1 to 511.

Is there any way to not have this limitation? The other way to
encapsulamente and ethernet-ccc.

Anyone ever used the EX4550 switches to this functionality? Could you help
us? The most documents also refers to EX8200.

Thank you,

Giuliano
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