Re: [j-nsp] MIB queue length Juniper

[Chris Kawchuk]

There's a JNPR MIB browser here which I have found rather helpful:

http://contentapps.juniper.net/mib-explorer/navigate.jsp#object=juniperMIB&product=Junos%20OS&release=15.1R2

Can flip between versions of JunOS easily, and gives the raw OID back to you on 
the right.

- CK.


On 27 Apr 2016, at 7:18 am, David Samaniego  wrote:

> Hello, I want to read a queue length of my router thourgth snmpwalk, and I
> need to know what is the correct MIB to use.
> 
> I need any help, because I do not how to implement it.
> 
> Best regards
> Sebastian
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Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Dave Peters - Terabit Systems]

Thanks a bunch.

That's what I was thinking. Really appreciate the confirmation.

And all of the advice. Thanks to everyone.

--Dave Peters

From: Michael Loftis [mlof...@wgops.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 2:07 PM
To: Dave Peters - Terabit Systems
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

Yeah those are specifically NOT 1/10, just 10G.  In general with the big MXes 
the MICs won't do 1/10.  For 1G you need like MIC-3D-20GE-SFP on an MPC or like 
the DPCE-*-40GE-SFP or similar-ish.  It might be cheaper to just use a cheap 
EX3300 or EX4300 w/ 2x10 (for redundancy) to the MX if you've a fair amount of 
1G that you're connecting...or really...if you're connecting 1G at all to the 
MX rather than burning a slot (MIC slot or router slot) on 1G interfaces.

I actually can't think of ANY line card nor MIC for MX that does 1/10...

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Dave Peters - Terabit Systems 
mailto:d...@terabitsystems.com>> wrote:
Hi all--

Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g. 
EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to commit? 
I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't been too useful, 
yet.

I tried:

set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate

inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, no joy.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks much.

--Dave Peters
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[j-nsp] MIB queue length Juniper

[David Samaniego]

Hello, I want to read a queue length of my router thourgth snmpwalk, and I
need to know what is the correct MIB to use.

I need any help, because I do not how to implement it.

Best regards
Sebastian
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Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Michael Loftis]

Yeah those are specifically NOT 1/10, just 10G.  In general with the big
MXes the MICs won't do 1/10.  For 1G you need like MIC-3D-20GE-SFP on an
MPC or like the DPCE-*-40GE-SFP or similar-ish.  It might be cheaper to
just use a cheap EX3300 or EX4300 w/ 2x10 (for redundancy) to the MX if
you've a fair amount of 1G that you're connecting...or really...if you're
connecting 1G at all to the MX rather than burning a slot (MIC slot or
router slot) on 1G interfaces.

I actually can't think of ANY line card nor MIC for MX that does 1/10...

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Dave Peters - Terabit Systems <
d...@terabitsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi all--
>
> Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g.
> EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to
> commit? I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't been
> too useful, yet.
>
> I tried:
>
> set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate
>
> inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, no
> joy.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks much.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Eduardo Schoedler]

With only one full table:

user@acc> show chassis routing-engine
Routing Engine status:
Temperature 56 degrees C / 132 degrees F
CPU temperature 73 degrees C / 163 degrees F
DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
Memory utilization  87 percent
CPU utilization:
  User  13 percent
  Background 0 percent
  Kernel10 percent
  Interrupt  1 percent
  Idle  76 percent
Model  RE-MX5-T
Uptime 87 days, 15 hours, 44 minutes, 40 seconds
Last reboot reason could not be determined
Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
   0.17   0.10   0.09

user@acc> show route summary
Autonomous system number: x
Router ID: x.x.x.x

inet.0: 584634 destinations, 584674 routes (584630 active, 9 holddown, 1 hidden)
  Direct: 22 routes, 22 active
   Local: 21 routes, 21 active
OSPF:200 routes,199 active
 BGP: 584386 routes, 584364 active
  Static: 45 routes, 24 active

x.inet.0: 6 destinations, 6 routes (6 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
  Direct:  1 routes,  1 active
   Local:  1 routes,  1 active
  Static:  4 routes,  4 active

y.inet.0: 33 destinations, 33 routes (33 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
  Direct:  1 routes,  1 active
   Local:  1 routes,  1 active
  Static: 31 routes, 31 active

inet6.0: 28900 destinations, 28912 routes (28900 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
  Direct: 24 routes, 14 active
   Local: 22 routes, 22 active
   OSPF3:  9 routes,  9 active
 BGP:  28847 routes,  28846 active
  Static: 10 routes,  9 active

user@acc> show system processes extensive no-forwarding
last pid: 43314;  load averages:  0.25,  0.17,  0.11  up 87+15:53:0816:51:13
145 processes: 6 running, 112 sleeping, 27 waiting

Mem: 1293M Active, 96M Inact, 330M Wired, 241M Cache, 112M Buf, 23M Free
Swap: 2821M Total, 2821M Free


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2016-04-26 16:44 GMT-03:00 Saku Ytti :
> You have about 100 days before you'll run out of DRAM, likely less.
>
>
> Anyone tried swapping 2GB to 4GB on MX80 control-plane? Obviously not
> gonna be supported, but curious if it works.
>
> On 26 April 2016 at 12:26, Eduardo Schoedler  wrote:
>> Hi Colton,
>>
>> Yes, it's very high but it's working ok :)
>> 3 full tables (~580k each) + 4x IXP route-server (~60k each) + 1
>> peering with HE (81k).
>>
>> Indeed, convergence it's terrible... for my luck, these sessions are
>> pretty stable.
>>
>> --
>> Eduardo Schoedler
>>
>>
>> 2016-04-26 15:46 GMT-03:00 Colton Conor :
>>> Eduardo,
>>>
>>> So if I am reading that right, the box is using 96 percent of its memory? It
>>> looks like it has 2 Million routes, so is that 4 full BGP tables/upstream
>>> providers?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Eduardo Schoedler 
>>> wrote:

 2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
 > Hi,
 >
 > How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
 > I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB
 > (KRT)
 > and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
 > related to memory? How can i solve it?.

 Hi Javier,

 This router is a MX80.
 They also have an running logical-instance:

 login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
 Routing Engine status:
 Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
 CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
 DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
 Memory utilization  96 percent
 CPU utilization:
   User   5 percent
   Background 0 percent
   Kernel10 percent
   Interrupt  3 percent
   Idle  82 percent
 Model  RE-MX5-T
 Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
0.19   0.17   0.16

 login@rtr> show route summary
 Autonomous system number: x
 Router ID: x.x.x.x

 inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
 holddown, 133589 hidden)
   Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
Local: 17 routes, 17 active
 OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
  BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
   Static: 25 routes, 17 active

 inet6.

Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Sascha Luck [ml]]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:43:16PM -0500, Aaron wrote:

p.s. but I wonder what those (6) 40 gig ports will be called with a 40 gig
qsfp ??  xe ?  or something else ?


et-n/n/n

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Saku Ytti]

You have about 100 days before you'll run out of DRAM, likely less.


Anyone tried swapping 2GB to 4GB on MX80 control-plane? Obviously not
gonna be supported, but curious if it works.

On 26 April 2016 at 12:26, Eduardo Schoedler  wrote:
> Hi Colton,
>
> Yes, it's very high but it's working ok :)
> 3 full tables (~580k each) + 4x IXP route-server (~60k each) + 1
> peering with HE (81k).
>
> Indeed, convergence it's terrible... for my luck, these sessions are
> pretty stable.
>
> --
> Eduardo Schoedler
>
>
> 2016-04-26 15:46 GMT-03:00 Colton Conor :
>> Eduardo,
>>
>> So if I am reading that right, the box is using 96 percent of its memory? It
>> looks like it has 2 Million routes, so is that 4 full BGP tables/upstream
>> providers?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Eduardo Schoedler 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
>>> > I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB
>>> > (KRT)
>>> > and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
>>> > related to memory? How can i solve it?.
>>>
>>> Hi Javier,
>>>
>>> This router is a MX80.
>>> They also have an running logical-instance:
>>>
>>> login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
>>> Routing Engine status:
>>> Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
>>> CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
>>> DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
>>> Memory utilization  96 percent
>>> CPU utilization:
>>>   User   5 percent
>>>   Background 0 percent
>>>   Kernel10 percent
>>>   Interrupt  3 percent
>>>   Idle  82 percent
>>> Model  RE-MX5-T
>>> Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
>>>0.19   0.17   0.16
>>>
>>> login@rtr> show route summary
>>> Autonomous system number: x
>>> Router ID: x.x.x.x
>>>
>>> inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
>>> holddown, 133589 hidden)
>>>   Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
>>>Local: 17 routes, 17 active
>>> OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
>>>  BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
>>>   Static: 25 routes, 17 active
>>>
>>> inet6.0: 29364 destinations, 130976 routes (29363 active, 0 holddown,
>>> 290 hidden)
>>>   Direct: 20 routes, 13 active
>>>Local: 18 routes, 18 active
>>>OSPF3: 20 routes, 20 active
>>>  BGP: 130916 routes,  29311 active
>>>   Static:  2 routes,  1 active
>>>
>>> login@rtr:LS-GIGA> show route summary
>>> Autonomous system number: y
>>> Router ID: y.y.y.y
>>>
>>> inet.0: 110496 destinations, 195742 routes (110496 active, 13
>>> holddown, 0 hidden)
>>> Restart Complete
>>>   Direct:  3 routes,  3 active
>>>Local:  2 routes,  2 active
>>> OSPF:208 routes,208 active
>>>  BGP: 195529 routes, 110283 active
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Aaron]

Yep, that's what I do with my SFP+ (1 gig / 10 gig) capable ports in my
ACX5048... if I slide in a 10 gig optic I config xe-0/0/38... if I slide in
a 1 gig optic I config ge-0/0/38

Aaron

p.s. but I wonder what those (6) 40 gig ports will be called with a 40 gig
qsfp ??  xe ?  or something else ?

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
Dave Bell
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 2:31 PM
To: Dave Peters - Terabit Systems 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

I have no idea if you can use 1G optics in this card, but if you can, you
likely want to configure the interface as ge-0/0/0, instead of xe. This is
how it works on the EX4200 with the SFP+ module.

Regards,
Dave

On 26 April 2016 at 20:23, Dave Peters - Terabit Systems <
d...@terabitsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi all--
>
> Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g.
> EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to 
> commit? I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't 
> been too useful, yet.
>
> I tried:
>
> set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate
>
> inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, 
> no joy.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> --Dave Peters
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Javier Rodriguez]

At 96% we allways have the pending routes problem into the FIB on
convergencies.
We deal with one full table on a routing instance and have fill 80% of
memory. On others PE routers 92% of memory is used.
On the providers routers (without BGP) the memory is around 26%.
How can I check the percentage used by BGP routes?


> show chassis routing-engine
Routing Engine status:
Temperature 39 degrees C / 102 degrees F
CPU temperature 55 degrees C / 131 degrees F
DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
Memory utilization  80 percent
CPU utilization:
  User   7 percent
  Background 0 percent
  Kernel 9 percent
  Interrupt  0 percent
  Idle  84 percent
Model  RE-MX40-T
Serial ID  S/N ABBZ8294
Start time 2014-10-20 05:44:09 ART
Uptime 554 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes, 51
seconds
Last reboot reason Router rebooted after a normal shutdown.
Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
   0.06   0.06   0.02


>show route summary
Autonomous system number: x.x.x
Router ID: x.x.x.x

inet.0: 77 destinations, 102 routes (77 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
Restart Complete
  Direct:  2 routes,  2 active
   Local:  2 routes,  2 active
OSPF:  1 routes,  1 active
  Static:  1 routes,  1 active
   IS-IS: 72 routes, 47 active
 LDP: 24 routes, 24 active

inet.3: 24 destinations, 24 routes (24 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
Restart Complete
 LDP: 24 routes, 24 active

x.inet.0: 585695 destinations, 589141 routes (585695 active, 0 holddown, 0
hidden)
Restart Complete
  Direct: 13 routes, 13 active
   Local:  2 routes,  2 active
 BGP: 589125 routes, 585679 active
  Static:  1 routes,  1 active

iso.0: 1 destinations, 1 routes (1 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
Restart Complete
  Direct:  1 routes,  1 active

mpls.0: 39 destinations, 39 routes (39 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
Restart Complete
MPLS:  4 routes,  4 active
 LDP: 25 routes, 25 active
 VPN:  4 routes,  4 active
   L2VPN:  2 routes,  2 active
VPLS:  4 routes,  4 active

bgp.l3vpn.0: 590603 destinations, 590712 routes (590603 active, 0 holddown,
0 hidden)
Restart Complete
 BGP: 590712 routes, 590603 active

inet6.0: 27392 destinations, 27392 routes (27392 active, 0 holddown, 0
hidden)
Restart Complete
  Direct:  4 routes,  4 active
   Local:  2 routes,  2 active
 BGP:  27361 routes,  27361 active
   IS-IS: 25 routes, 25 active


Javier.

2016-04-26 15:46 GMT-03:00 Colton Conor :

> Eduardo,
>
> So if I am reading that right, the box is using 96 percent of its memory?
> It looks like it has 2 Million routes, so is that 4 full BGP
> tables/upstream providers?
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Eduardo Schoedler 
> wrote:
>
>> 2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
>> > I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB
>> (KRT)
>> > and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
>> > related to memory? How can i solve it?.
>>
>> Hi Javier,
>>
>> This router is a MX80.
>> They also have an running logical-instance:
>>
>> login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
>> Routing Engine status:
>> Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
>> CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
>> DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
>> Memory utilization  96 percent
>> CPU utilization:
>>   User   5 percent
>>   Background 0 percent
>>   Kernel10 percent
>>   Interrupt  3 percent
>>   Idle  82 percent
>> Model  RE-MX5-T
>> Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
>>0.19   0.17   0.16
>>
>> login@rtr> show route summary
>> Autonomous system number: x
>> Router ID: x.x.x.x
>>
>> inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
>> holddown, 133589 hidden)
>>   Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
>>Local: 17 routes, 17 active
>> OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
>>  BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
>

Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Dave Bell]

Further to this, all documentation I've quickly looked through seems to
indicate its 10G only.

http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/reference/general/mpc-16x10ge.html
lists the compatible optics.

On 26 April 2016 at 20:30, Dave Bell  wrote:

> I have no idea if you can use 1G optics in this card, but if you can, you
> likely want to configure the interface as ge-0/0/0, instead of xe. This is
> how it works on the EX4200 with the SFP+ module.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On 26 April 2016 at 20:23, Dave Peters - Terabit Systems <
> d...@terabitsystems.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all--
>>
>> Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g.
>> EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to
>> commit? I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't been
>> too useful, yet.
>>
>> I tried:
>>
>> set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate
>>
>> inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, no
>> joy.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
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Re: [j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Dave Bell]

I have no idea if you can use 1G optics in this card, but if you can, you
likely want to configure the interface as ge-0/0/0, instead of xe. This is
how it works on the EX4200 with the SFP+ module.

Regards,
Dave

On 26 April 2016 at 20:23, Dave Peters - Terabit Systems <
d...@terabitsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi all--
>
> Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g.
> EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to
> commit? I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't been
> too useful, yet.
>
> I tried:
>
> set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate
>
> inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, no
> joy.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> --Dave Peters
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Eduardo Schoedler]

Hi Colton,

Yes, it's very high but it's working ok :)
3 full tables (~580k each) + 4x IXP route-server (~60k each) + 1
peering with HE (81k).

Indeed, convergence it's terrible... for my luck, these sessions are
pretty stable.

--
Eduardo Schoedler


2016-04-26 15:46 GMT-03:00 Colton Conor :
> Eduardo,
>
> So if I am reading that right, the box is using 96 percent of its memory? It
> looks like it has 2 Million routes, so is that 4 full BGP tables/upstream
> providers?
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Eduardo Schoedler 
> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
>> > I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB
>> > (KRT)
>> > and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
>> > related to memory? How can i solve it?.
>>
>> Hi Javier,
>>
>> This router is a MX80.
>> They also have an running logical-instance:
>>
>> login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
>> Routing Engine status:
>> Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
>> CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
>> DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
>> Memory utilization  96 percent
>> CPU utilization:
>>   User   5 percent
>>   Background 0 percent
>>   Kernel10 percent
>>   Interrupt  3 percent
>>   Idle  82 percent
>> Model  RE-MX5-T
>> Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
>>0.19   0.17   0.16
>>
>> login@rtr> show route summary
>> Autonomous system number: x
>> Router ID: x.x.x.x
>>
>> inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
>> holddown, 133589 hidden)
>>   Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
>>Local: 17 routes, 17 active
>> OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
>>  BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
>>   Static: 25 routes, 17 active
>>
>> inet6.0: 29364 destinations, 130976 routes (29363 active, 0 holddown,
>> 290 hidden)
>>   Direct: 20 routes, 13 active
>>Local: 18 routes, 18 active
>>OSPF3: 20 routes, 20 active
>>  BGP: 130916 routes,  29311 active
>>   Static:  2 routes,  1 active
>>
>> login@rtr:LS-GIGA> show route summary
>> Autonomous system number: y
>> Router ID: y.y.y.y
>>
>> inet.0: 110496 destinations, 195742 routes (110496 active, 13
>> holddown, 0 hidden)
>> Restart Complete
>>   Direct:  3 routes,  3 active
>>Local:  2 routes,  2 active
>> OSPF:208 routes,208 active
>>  BGP: 195529 routes, 110283 active
>>
>>
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[j-nsp] MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP at 1G speed

[Dave Peters - Terabit Systems]

Hi all--

Stupid question, here. Can the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP run with 1G optics (e.g. 
EX-SFP-1GE-SX), and if so, is there a specific port setting I need to commit? 
I'm running an MX480 with 13.3R8.7, and Uncle Google hasn't been too useful, 
yet.

I tried:

set interfaces xe-0/0/0 auto-negotiate

inserted the EX-SFP-1GE-SX connected to an outside 1G port, no lights, no joy.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks much.

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Colton Conor]

Eduardo,

So if I am reading that right, the box is using 96 percent of its memory?
It looks like it has 2 Million routes, so is that 4 full BGP
tables/upstream providers?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Eduardo Schoedler 
wrote:

> 2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
> > Hi,
> >
> > How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
> > I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB
> (KRT)
> > and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
> > related to memory? How can i solve it?.
>
> Hi Javier,
>
> This router is a MX80.
> They also have an running logical-instance:
>
> login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
> Routing Engine status:
> Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
> CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
> DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
> Memory utilization  96 percent
> CPU utilization:
>   User   5 percent
>   Background 0 percent
>   Kernel10 percent
>   Interrupt  3 percent
>   Idle  82 percent
> Model  RE-MX5-T
> Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
>0.19   0.17   0.16
>
> login@rtr> show route summary
> Autonomous system number: x
> Router ID: x.x.x.x
>
> inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
> holddown, 133589 hidden)
>   Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
>Local: 17 routes, 17 active
> OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
>  BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
>   Static: 25 routes, 17 active
>
> inet6.0: 29364 destinations, 130976 routes (29363 active, 0 holddown,
> 290 hidden)
>   Direct: 20 routes, 13 active
>Local: 18 routes, 18 active
>OSPF3: 20 routes, 20 active
>  BGP: 130916 routes,  29311 active
>   Static:  2 routes,  1 active
>
> login@rtr:LS-GIGA> show route summary
> Autonomous system number: y
> Router ID: y.y.y.y
>
> inet.0: 110496 destinations, 195742 routes (110496 active, 13
> holddown, 0 hidden)
> Restart Complete
>   Direct:  3 routes,  3 active
>Local:  2 routes,  2 active
> OSPF:208 routes,208 active
>  BGP: 195529 routes, 110283 active
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Michael Loftis]

Convergence time only becomes a factor when you're not taking just a
default route.  Thats one route.  When we speak of this we mean the time it
takes the RE to process the hundreds of thousands of routes in the IPv4 DFZ
and completely finish synchronizing RIB and FIB.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Dovid Bender  wrote:

> I assume that means that if a peer drops out of sight then for two minutes
> some of the traffic will drop? As of now we use default routes. If a bgp
> session drops the traffic shifts over fairly fast (under 30 seconds).
>
> Regards,
>
> Dovid
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Tim St. Pierre" 
> Sender: "juniper-nsp" Date: Tue, 26
> Apr 2016 09:09:32
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5
>
> I have one in a very similar configuration, with three full feeds in
> IPv4 and IPv6.
>
> It generally works just fine, but convergence time is slow.  It can take
> two minutes to process the full feed, and if you restart the box, it
> will take even longer.
>
> It's a good machine for a small ISP though.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> On 2016-04-26 08:33 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
> >> Has anyone ever tried full IPv4 routes on a MX5? We have 3 peers +
> iBGP. We
> >> were told in the past that when a BGP session drops the MX5 could lock
> up
> >> for up to 2 minutes.
> > We have MX80s (essentially the same box) with full Internet routing
> > table. It works but is not recommended: RE memory (2 GB) is rather
> > limited, and convergence time is not great.
> >
> > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Eduardo Schoedler]

2016-04-26 13:15 GMT-03:00 Javier Rodriguez :
> Hi,
>
> How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
> I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB (KRT)
> and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
> related to memory? How can i solve it?.

Hi Javier,

This router is a MX80.
They also have an running logical-instance:

login@rtr> show chassis routing-engine
Routing Engine status:
Temperature 45 degrees C / 113 degrees F
CPU temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
DRAM  2048 MB (2048 MB installed)
Memory utilization  96 percent
CPU utilization:
  User   5 percent
  Background 0 percent
  Kernel10 percent
  Interrupt  3 percent
  Idle  82 percent
Model  RE-MX5-T
Load averages: 1 minute   5 minute  15 minute
   0.19   0.17   0.16

login@rtr> show route summary
Autonomous system number: x
Router ID: x.x.x.x

inet.0: 599618 destinations, 2057043 routes (591234 active, 16
holddown, 133589 hidden)
  Direct: 18 routes, 18 active
   Local: 17 routes, 17 active
OSPF: 39 routes, 37 active
 BGP: 2056944 routes, 591145 active
  Static: 25 routes, 17 active

inet6.0: 29364 destinations, 130976 routes (29363 active, 0 holddown,
290 hidden)
  Direct: 20 routes, 13 active
   Local: 18 routes, 18 active
   OSPF3: 20 routes, 20 active
 BGP: 130916 routes,  29311 active
  Static:  2 routes,  1 active

login@rtr:LS-GIGA> show route summary
Autonomous system number: y
Router ID: y.y.y.y

inet.0: 110496 destinations, 195742 routes (110496 active, 13
holddown, 0 hidden)
Restart Complete
  Direct:  3 routes,  3 active
   Local:  2 routes,  2 active
OSPF:208 routes,208 active
 BGP: 195529 routes, 110283 active


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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Dovid Bender]

I assume that means that if a peer drops out of sight then for two minutes some 
of the traffic will drop? As of now we use default routes. If a bgp session 
drops the traffic shifts over fairly fast (under 30 seconds).

Regards,

Dovid

-Original Message-
From: "Tim St. Pierre" 
Sender: "juniper-nsp" Date: Tue, 26 Apr 
2016 09:09:32 
To: 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

I have one in a very similar configuration, with three full feeds in 
IPv4 and IPv6.

It generally works just fine, but convergence time is slow.  It can take 
two minutes to process the full feed, and if you restart the box, it 
will take even longer.

It's a good machine for a small ISP though.

-Tim



On 2016-04-26 08:33 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
>> Has anyone ever tried full IPv4 routes on a MX5? We have 3 peers + iBGP. We
>> were told in the past that when a BGP session drops the MX5 could lock up
>> for up to 2 minutes.
> We have MX80s (essentially the same box) with full Internet routing
> table. It works but is not recommended: RE memory (2 GB) is rather
> limited, and convergence time is not great.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Olivier Benghozi]

And also [edit system commit delta-export], in 14.2 and later.

> Le 26 avr. 2016 à 18:54, Daniel Verlouw  a écrit :
> 
> have you considered using the [system commit fast-synchronize] option?
> Allows the config to commit simultaneously on both REs.
> 
> Also [system commit persist-groups-inheritance] may help if you
> (extensively) use apply-groups (at the expense of some memory usage).

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Re: [j-nsp] MX80 base model

[Satish Patel]

should i compare MX104 with ASR1006 or ASR9001 ?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Aaron  wrote:
> On that google site, they appear to have their 40 gig number wrong for the 
> ACX5048... (6) 40 gig interfaces... then 6*4 = 24 + 48 = 72 total 10 gig 
> interfaces
>
> https://60d0d3c5-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/juniperbuilder/home/juniper-routers/acx-routers/Slide2.JPG?attachauth=ANoY7crvXWR72e5hO4sOrZjpNq4jfRupmmZuj6WjOZM7UI1JiS_HzC_877rEX0yxqKbh8BLO-Rs-GKd4D1FLuLio4kJJEeOCHLN-H7rx4dy0C4b8N3ABVagirXcyGTpQaN0LI-njDYr0YJMOjpcFkL1-HiPmUXNvFT-3B02XCNoyswly-5goWsezlxu684dfw90EMu8jR6hk7aRXfh-3fZYR38_6Zqu5QnWmmiDHHh7Ek8PrJzp6G2rVxHWuBgBPhXcbVaMpS_uB&attredirects=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Vincent Bernat
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 5:03 AM
> To: Satish Patel 
> Cc: jnsp list 
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 base model
>
>  ❦ 25 avril 2016 19:34 -0400, Satish Patel  :
>
>> Does MX104 base model has 10G ports are lock? Also do I need to pay to
>> run BGP?
>
> The MX104 comes in a lot of (license) derivatives. Some of them have the 
> ports unlocked, some other needs a licence to use the ports and some of them 
> can't use them (eg MX5). There is a presentation with all the info you could 
> ask from a Juniper representative. Also, the following link seems to contain 
> an accurate summary:
>  https://sites.google.com/site/juniperbuilder/home/juniper-routers/mx104
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Daniel Verlouw]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Mark Tinka  wrote:
> That said, I think the MX104 feels even slower - I think having to
> commit a configuration on multiple RE's just doubly slows things down.

have you considered using the [system commit fast-synchronize] option?
Allows the config to commit simultaneously on both REs.

Also [system commit persist-groups-inheritance] may help if you
(extensively) use apply-groups (at the expense of some memory usage).

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Javier Rodriguez]

Hi,

How much memory is left available with one full table on a MX80?
I have a problem with routes at the process installation into the FIB (KRT)
and they remain pending for a long time. Do you know if this issue is
related to memory? How can i solve it?.


Javier Rodríguez.


2016-04-26 10:36 GMT-03:00 :

> > That said, I think the MX104 feels even slower - I think having to
> > commit a configuration on multiple RE's just doubly slows things down.
> >
> > The control planes on both the MX80 and MX104 are the bane of my
> existence.
>
> We use MX104 with single RE only, and are generally reasonably happy
> with it. A snappier RE would definitely be appreciated.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] MX80 base model

[Aaron]

On that google site, they appear to have their 40 gig number wrong for the 
ACX5048... (6) 40 gig interfaces... then 6*4 = 24 + 48 = 72 total 10 gig 
interfaces

https://60d0d3c5-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/juniperbuilder/home/juniper-routers/acx-routers/Slide2.JPG?attachauth=ANoY7crvXWR72e5hO4sOrZjpNq4jfRupmmZuj6WjOZM7UI1JiS_HzC_877rEX0yxqKbh8BLO-Rs-GKd4D1FLuLio4kJJEeOCHLN-H7rx4dy0C4b8N3ABVagirXcyGTpQaN0LI-njDYr0YJMOjpcFkL1-HiPmUXNvFT-3B02XCNoyswly-5goWsezlxu684dfw90EMu8jR6hk7aRXfh-3fZYR38_6Zqu5QnWmmiDHHh7Ek8PrJzp6G2rVxHWuBgBPhXcbVaMpS_uB&attredirects=0


-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Vincent Bernat
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 5:03 AM
To: Satish Patel 
Cc: jnsp list 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 base model

 ❦ 25 avril 2016 19:34 -0400, Satish Patel  :

> Does MX104 base model has 10G ports are lock? Also do I need to pay to 
> run BGP?

The MX104 comes in a lot of (license) derivatives. Some of them have the ports 
unlocked, some other needs a licence to use the ports and some of them can't 
use them (eg MX5). There is a presentation with all the info you could ask from 
a Juniper representative. Also, the following link seems to contain an accurate 
summary:
 https://sites.google.com/site/juniperbuilder/home/juniper-routers/mx104

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[sthaug]

> That said, I think the MX104 feels even slower - I think having to
> commit a configuration on multiple RE's just doubly slows things down.
> 
> The control planes on both the MX80 and MX104 are the bane of my existence.

We use MX104 with single RE only, and are generally reasonably happy
with it. A snappier RE would definitely be appreciated.

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Mark Tinka]

On 26/Apr/16 15:09, Tim St. Pierre wrote:

> I have one in a very similar configuration, with three full feeds in
> IPv4 and IPv6.
>
> It generally works just fine, but convergence time is slow.  It can
> take two minutes to process the full feed, and if you restart the box,
> it will take even longer.
>
> It's a good machine for a small ISP though.

We use them quite extensively for peering.

They work fine, but are terribly slow.

That said, I think the MX104 feels even slower - I think having to
commit a configuration on multiple RE's just doubly slows things down.

The control planes on both the MX80 and MX104 are the bane of my existence.

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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Tim St. Pierre]

I have one in a very similar configuration, with three full feeds in 
IPv4 and IPv6.


It generally works just fine, but convergence time is slow.  It can take 
two minutes to process the full feed, and if you restart the box, it 
will take even longer.


It's a good machine for a small ISP though.

-Tim



On 2016-04-26 08:33 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:

Has anyone ever tried full IPv4 routes on a MX5? We have 3 peers + iBGP. We
were told in the past that when a BGP session drops the MX5 could lock up
for up to 2 minutes.

We have MX80s (essentially the same box) with full Internet routing
table. It works but is not recommended: RE memory (2 GB) is rather
limited, and convergence time is not great.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[sthaug]

> Has anyone ever tried full IPv4 routes on a MX5? We have 3 peers + iBGP. We
> were told in the past that when a BGP session drops the MX5 could lock up
> for up to 2 minutes.

We have MX80s (essentially the same box) with full Internet routing
table. It works but is not recommended: RE memory (2 GB) is rather
limited, and convergence time is not great.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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[j-nsp] Full routes on MX5

[Dovid Bender]

Hi,

Has anyone ever tried full IPv4 routes on a MX5? We have 3 peers + iBGP. We
were told in the past that when a BGP session drops the MX5 could lock up
for up to 2 minutes.

TIA.

Dovid
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Re: [j-nsp] MX80 base model

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 25 avril 2016 19:34 -0400, Satish Patel  :

> Does MX104 base model has 10G ports are lock? Also do I need to pay to
> run BGP?

The MX104 comes in a lot of (license) derivatives. Some of them have the
ports unlocked, some other needs a licence to use the ports and some of
them can't use them (eg MX5). There is a presentation with all the info
you could ask from a Juniper representative. Also, the following link
seems to contain an accurate summary:
 https://sites.google.com/site/juniperbuilder/home/juniper-routers/mx104

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