Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp]

On 6/27/22 18:22, Olivier Benghozi via juniper-nsp wrote:


I guess that the right thing to do would be to provide a licence based model 
for MX304 with an entry level capacity licence priced as the MX204 currently 
is...


That would, indeed, be the right thing. But it's the wild west in 
vendor-land, now. Can't believe anything they say to stay true for any 
reasonable period of time.


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Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp]

On 6/27/22 18:15, Giuliano C. Medalha wrote:


MX204 was announced at EoS

We have used MX204 for last 5 years. It was a huge success for any 
function it was designed.


We intend to keep running ours until the 2nd coming :-).

I don't have time for Juniper's nonsense.




Juniper only recommend to us ( about gre projects ) in mx product line

Are you going to use mx304 after this year ?

Even this box is more expensive ( 5x at least )

Or Juniper is thinking to launch a new router with TRIO 6 ?


I'm having a meeting with them about all this on Thursday. If anything 
is exciting, and I can share, I will.


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Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Olivier Benghozi via juniper-nsp]

I guess that the right thing to do would be to provide a licence based model 
for MX304 with an entry level capacity licence priced as the MX204 currently 
is...


> Le 27 juin 2022 à 18:15, Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp 
>  a écrit :
> 
> MX204 was announced at EoS
> 
> We have used MX204 for last 5 years. It was a huge success for any function 
> it was designed.
> 
> Juniper only recommend to us ( about gre projects ) in mx product line
> 
> Are you going to use mx304 after this year ?
> 
> Even this box is more expensive ( 5x at least )
> 
> Or Juniper is thinking to launch a new router with TRIO 6 ?


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Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Giuliano C. Medalha via juniper-nsp]

MX204 was announced at EoS

We have used MX204 for last 5 years. It was a huge success for any function it 
was designed.

Juniper only recommend to us ( about gre projects ) in mx product line

Are you going to use mx304 after this year ?

Even this box is more expensive ( 5x at least )

Or Juniper is thinking to launch a new router with TRIO 6 ?


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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 1:04:55 PM
To: Saku Ytti 
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C



On 6/24/22 11:01, Saku Ytti wrote:

> Many ways to skin the cat. If you can dedicate small router to the
> scrubber (or routing-instance if you can't) and you run BGP-LU, so you
> avoid useless egress IP lookup, you just ensure that the scrubber PE
> or scrubber instance doesn't have the more specific routes, then it'll
> follow the BGP-LU path to egress CE.
> You can scrub any and all prefixes, without any scale implications as
> you never need to touch the network to handle clean traffic.

Agreed.

We use the MX204 as the dedicated router attached to the scrubber, so
there is no performance issue (yet).

Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] GRE tunnels on a QFX10002-60C

[Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp]

On 6/24/22 11:01, Saku Ytti wrote:


Many ways to skin the cat. If you can dedicate small router to the
scrubber (or routing-instance if you can't) and you run BGP-LU, so you
avoid useless egress IP lookup, you just ensure that the scrubber PE
or scrubber instance doesn't have the more specific routes, then it'll
follow the BGP-LU path to egress CE.
You can scrub any and all prefixes, without any scale implications as
you never need to touch the network to handle clean traffic.


Agreed.

We use the MX204 as the dedicated router attached to the scrubber, so 
there is no performance issue (yet).


Mark.
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