Re: [j-nsp] MX960 PEMs and 3 phase power

2023-03-22 Thread Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp




On 3/22/23 17:27, Tom Storey via juniper-nsp wrote:


Hi all.

I had this idea in my head that MX960 power supplies should not be split
across phases, but I cant find anything in any documentation that says that.

Can anyone comment on whether multiple phases per PEM are supported, or
whether its even a reasonable idea to put into practice?

My thought is one PEM on one phase, such that if that phase drops, you drop
that PEM entirely. Or is it worthwhile spreading across phases to keep even
half of a PEM alive and supplying the chassis?


I can't think of any plausible reason why this would not work, but it 
sounds awfully complicated.


If you are in a typical data centre, all your power is going to come 
from at least one UPS anyway, maybe even two. So not sure you need to 
worry about this.


Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 PEMs and 3 phase power

2023-03-22 Thread Julien Goodwin via juniper-nsp

On 23/3/23 2:27 am, Tom Storey via juniper-nsp wrote:

My thought is one PEM on one phase, such that if that phase drops, you drop
that PEM entirely. Or is it worthwhile spreading across phases to keep even
half of a PEM alive and supplying the chassis?


Start by going back to "if that phase drops", depending on where you are 
and how much load you present using any non-trivial amount of power may 
not be acceptable.


Then even consider if loss of a single phase is even a plausible outage 
that isn't going to mean a full loss right afterwards.

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Re: [j-nsp] MX960 PEMs and 3 phase power

2023-03-22 Thread Alain Hebert via juniper-nsp
    Depending of your setup, all our COs are setup to provides A+B 
feed.  Which include TS, UPS and Bypass.


    PS: Be sure to test before putting it in production, the PEM #, and 
its assignment into the chassis, are not that straight forward.


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PubNIX Inc.

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P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443

On 3/22/23 11:27, Tom Storey via juniper-nsp wrote:

Hi all.

I had this idea in my head that MX960 power supplies should not be split
across phases, but I cant find anything in any documentation that says that.

Can anyone comment on whether multiple phases per PEM are supported, or
whether its even a reasonable idea to put into practice?

My thought is one PEM on one phase, such that if that phase drops, you drop
that PEM entirely. Or is it worthwhile spreading across phases to keep even
half of a PEM alive and supplying the chassis?

Thanks
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[j-nsp] MX960 PEMs and 3 phase power

2023-03-22 Thread Tom Storey via juniper-nsp
Hi all.

I had this idea in my head that MX960 power supplies should not be split
across phases, but I cant find anything in any documentation that says that.

Can anyone comment on whether multiple phases per PEM are supported, or
whether its even a reasonable idea to put into practice?

My thought is one PEM on one phase, such that if that phase drops, you drop
that PEM entirely. Or is it worthwhile spreading across phases to keep even
half of a PEM alive and supplying the chassis?

Thanks
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