Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-19 Thread Dan Farrell
TBH, I have no clue about the licensing ramifications, only that for the price 
I paid, I was given the ability to do OSPF, IBGP/EBGP. And it works, with a few 
kinks (full tables incoming seems to be an issue).

Dan

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Subject: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

Hrmm -- from what I've read, it seems the EX series DOES need a license for BGP,
but the J-series does not, unless you need the route-reflector functionality.

Am I correct or ?

Dan Farrell wrote:
 If I'm not mistaken I got an EX3200-24T for around $3k (give or take) and I 
 have BGP peering on it.

 Dan Farrell
 da...@appliedi.net


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 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:04 AM
 To: Patrik Olsson
 Cc: Dan Farrell; juniper-nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] J2320 as BGP router

 But don't you need the advanced feature license to do BGP on the EX3200
 series?  That license adds thousands to the cost..

 --Mike

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Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-19 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday 19 February 2010 10:52:22 pm Dan Farrell wrote:

 TBH, I have no clue about the licensing ramifications,
  only that for the price I paid, I was given the ability
  to do OSPF, IBGP/EBGP. And it works, with a few kinks
  (full tables incoming seems to be an issue).

As you've probably realized, the platform won't support a 
full v4 table.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-19 Thread Dan Farrell
OMG! Jk :).

Yeah, that's not a concern of ours at this particular point, with basic carrier 
failover and some basic route selection we're fine with what it handles.

Dan

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

On Friday 19 February 2010 10:52:22 pm Dan Farrell wrote:

 TBH, I have no clue about the licensing ramifications,  only that for
 the price I paid, I was given the ability  to do OSPF, IBGP/EBGP. And
 it works, with a few kinks  (full tables incoming seems to be an
 issue).

As you've probably realized, the platform won't support a full v4 table.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-19 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:10:12PM -0700, Tommy Perniciaro wrote:
 Yes - that's correct.
 
 Junos will complain about not having the license but BGP will still  
 work, same deal on the J series not having the route reflector  
 license, still works just complains :)

EX's BGP license is (last I checked) stil nagware which can be filtered
or ignored, though I'm sure that will change over time. J-series' BGP
route-reflector license on the other hand is now hard enforced (any
neighbors with clusters configured will not come up) as of at least a
year+ ago (somewhere in the 8.x's I think). The ironic part is J-series
is absolutely worthless as a route-reflector, it suffers *heavily* from
the slow route installation bug, and if you ask Juniper about it they
say J-series CPU is mostly locked towards forwarding packets rather than
processing BGP, and is not intended to be a BGP route reflector (and yet
they're still taking your money for the BGP RR licenses, go figure :P).

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[j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-18 Thread TCIS List Acct
Hrmm -- from what I've read, it seems the EX series DOES need a license for BGP, 
but the J-series does not, unless you need the route-reflector functionality.


Am I correct or ?

Dan Farrell wrote:

If I'm not mistaken I got an EX3200-24T for around $3k (give or take) and I 
have BGP peering on it.

Dan Farrell
da...@appliedi.net


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From: TCIS List Acct [mailto:lista...@tulsaconnect.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:04 AM
To: Patrik Olsson
Cc: Dan Farrell; juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] J2320 as BGP router

But don't you need the advanced feature license to do BGP on the EX3200
series?  That license adds thousands to the cost..

--Mike


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Re: [j-nsp] EX series needs a special license for BGP?

2010-02-18 Thread Tommy Perniciaro
Yes - that's correct.

Junos will complain about not having the license but BGP will still  
work, same deal on the J series not having the route reflector  
license, still works just complains :)



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On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:05 PM, TCIS List Acct  
lista...@tulsaconnect.com wrote:

 Hrmm -- from what I've read, it seems the EX series DOES need a  
 license for BGP,
 but the J-series does not, unless you need the route-reflector  
 functionality.

 Am I correct or ?

 Dan Farrell wrote:
 If I'm not mistaken I got an EX3200-24T for around $3k (give or  
 take) and I have BGP peering on it.

 Dan Farrell
 da...@appliedi.net


 -Original Message-
 From: TCIS List Acct [mailto:lista...@tulsaconnect.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:04 AM
 To: Patrik Olsson
 Cc: Dan Farrell; juniper-nsp
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] J2320 as BGP router

 But don't you need the advanced feature license to do BGP on the  
 EX3200
 series?  That license adds thousands to the cost..

 --Mike

 --Mike
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