Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series
Yes - it's usable with the AFL license, but I'm pretty sure on the EX2200, it only allows 4 interfaces to participate in OSPF. From: Bill Blackford [mailto:bblackf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:19 PM To: Paulhamus, Jon Cc: Doug McIntyre; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series Any features specifically that you're curios about? Has anyone done/used the VC feature? How stable is it? Does it function in a similar manner to that of the EX4200's? How do they handle the loss of a member? These will be closet stacks, so little need for any L3 functionality. However, in the event I bring L3 down to the access layer, is the OSPF implementation usable? (my experience has been on 3200/4200's primarily). I believe I read something about limitations. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Paulhamus, Jon jpaulha...@iu17.orgmailto:jpaulha...@iu17.org wrote: We have well approximately 75 of the 2200's and closer to 250 of the 4200's / 4500's either standalone or in VC. A few bugs along the way with earlier code - but now we've stuck with 11.4R5.7 code and all is well. I've mixed the 2200's with mostly Cisco, and 3com / HP and have had no issues with compatibility other than a few gotchas with VLAN pruning on the Cisco's that we easily accounted for. For what it's worth, we also use SRX's combined with Cisco routers and firewalls for VPN's as well without any issues. Any features specifically that you're curios about? From: Doug McIntyre [mer...@geeks.orgmailto:mer...@geeks.org] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:47 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:09:16PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote: I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. I've used the EX2200's, and aside from the limited features compared to the rest of the EX line, they operate exactly the same, just missing a couple things that are mentioned in the datasheets. Although they recently (12.x) brought Virtual Chassis to it, I haven't done that yet. As to mixed vendor, you'd have to state what protocols you are expecting in a mixed vendor? They do STP and RSTP just fine. They won't do cisco proprietary protocols, such as CDP or VDP. They have standards based proprotocols that are equivilent. I've done OSPF and BGP (still accounting for all switches have limited BGP route space) with no issues. Overall, I've had much less problems with the Juniper switches (aside from some bad releases, especially on the EX4550 line) than my cisco switches all around. I have had some wonkiness getting especially old cisco software talking, but the problem has always been on the cisco side. Usually upgrading the cisco to newer code solved their bugs (ie. LACP). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- Bill Blackford Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series
You need the EFL (Enhanched Deature License) to run OSPF v1/v2 on 2200, and yes, it only supports four interfaces. Don't know if an aggregated IF (ae0 LAG) counts as one. Link: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos11.4/Tonics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html Regards Klaus — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Mo., Jul 1, 2013 at 16:50, Paulhamus, Jon jpaulha...@iu17.org=mailto:jpaulha...@iu17.org; wrote: Yes - it's usable with the AFL license, but I'm pretty sure on the EX2200, it only allows 4 interfaces to participate in OSPF. From: Bill Blackford [mailto:bblackf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:19 PM To: Paulhamus, Jon Cc: Doug McIntyre; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series Any features specifically that you're curios about? Has anyone done/used the VC feature? How stable is it? Does it function in a similar manner to that of the EX4200's? How do they handle the loss of a member? These will be closet stacks, so little need for any L3 functionality. However, in the event I bring L3 down to the access layer, is the OSPF implementation usable? (my experience has been on 3200/4200's primarily). I believe I read something about limitations. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Paulhamus, Jon jpaulha...@iu17.orgmailto:jpaulha...@iu17.org wrote: We have well approximately 75 of the 2200's and closer to 250 of the 4200's / 4500's either standalone or in VC. A few bugs along the way with earlier code - but now we've stuck with 11.4R5.7 code and all is well. I've mixed the 2200's with mostly Cisco, and 3com / HP and have had no issues with compatibility other than a few gotchas with VLAN pruning on the Cisco's that we easily accounted for. For what it's worth, we also use SRX's combined with Cisco routers and firewalls for VPN's as well without any issues. Any features specifically that you're curios about? From: Doug McIntyre [mer...@geeks.orgmailto:mer...@geeks.org] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:47 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:09:16PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote: I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. I've used the EX2200's, and aside from the limited features compared to the rest of the EX line, they operate exactly the same, just missing a couple things that are mentioned in the datasheets. Although they recently (12.x) brought Virtual Chassis to it, I haven't done that yet. As to mixed vendor, you'd have to state what protocols you are expecting in a mixed vendor? They do STP and RSTP just fine. They won't do cisco proprietary protocols, such as CDP or VDP. They have standards based proprotocols that are equivilent. I've done OSPF and BGP (still accounting for all switches have limited BGP route space) with no issues. Overall, I've had much less problems with the Juniper switches (aside from some bad releases, especially on the EX4550 line) than my cisco switches all around. I have had some wonkiness getting especially old cisco software talking, but the problem has always been on the cisco side. Usually upgrading the cisco to newer code solved their bugs (ie. LACP). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- Bill Blackford Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] EX2200 Series
I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. Feel free to ping me off-line. Thank you -- Bill Blackford Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:09:16PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote: I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. I've used the EX2200's, and aside from the limited features compared to the rest of the EX line, they operate exactly the same, just missing a couple things that are mentioned in the datasheets. Although they recently (12.x) brought Virtual Chassis to it, I haven't done that yet. As to mixed vendor, you'd have to state what protocols you are expecting in a mixed vendor? They do STP and RSTP just fine. They won't do cisco proprietary protocols, such as CDP or VDP. They have standards based proprotocols that are equivilent. I've done OSPF and BGP (still accounting for all switches have limited BGP route space) with no issues. Overall, I've had much less problems with the Juniper switches (aside from some bad releases, especially on the EX4550 line) than my cisco switches all around. I have had some wonkiness getting especially old cisco software talking, but the problem has always been on the cisco side. Usually upgrading the cisco to newer code solved their bugs (ie. LACP). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series
We have well approximately 75 of the 2200's and closer to 250 of the 4200's / 4500's either standalone or in VC. A few bugs along the way with earlier code - but now we've stuck with 11.4R5.7 code and all is well. I've mixed the 2200's with mostly Cisco, and 3com / HP and have had no issues with compatibility other than a few gotchas with VLAN pruning on the Cisco's that we easily accounted for. For what it's worth, we also use SRX's combined with Cisco routers and firewalls for VPN's as well without any issues. Any features specifically that you're curios about? From: Doug McIntyre [mer...@geeks.org] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:47 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:09:16PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote: I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. I've used the EX2200's, and aside from the limited features compared to the rest of the EX line, they operate exactly the same, just missing a couple things that are mentioned in the datasheets. Although they recently (12.x) brought Virtual Chassis to it, I haven't done that yet. As to mixed vendor, you'd have to state what protocols you are expecting in a mixed vendor? They do STP and RSTP just fine. They won't do cisco proprietary protocols, such as CDP or VDP. They have standards based proprotocols that are equivilent. I've done OSPF and BGP (still accounting for all switches have limited BGP route space) with no issues. Overall, I've had much less problems with the Juniper switches (aside from some bad releases, especially on the EX4550 line) than my cisco switches all around. I have had some wonkiness getting especially old cisco software talking, but the problem has always been on the cisco side. Usually upgrading the cisco to newer code solved their bugs (ie. LACP). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series
Any features specifically that you're curios about? Has anyone done/used the VC feature? How stable is it? Does it function in a similar manner to that of the EX4200's? How do they handle the loss of a member? These will be closet stacks, so little need for any L3 functionality. However, in the event I bring L3 down to the access layer, is the OSPF implementation usable? (my experience has been on 3200/4200's primarily). I believe I read something about limitations. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Paulhamus, Jon jpaulha...@iu17.org wrote: We have well approximately 75 of the 2200's and closer to 250 of the 4200's / 4500's either standalone or in VC. A few bugs along the way with earlier code - but now we've stuck with 11.4R5.7 code and all is well. I've mixed the 2200's with mostly Cisco, and 3com / HP and have had no issues with compatibility other than a few gotchas with VLAN pruning on the Cisco's that we easily accounted for. For what it's worth, we also use SRX's combined with Cisco routers and firewalls for VPN's as well without any issues. Any features specifically that you're curios about? From: Doug McIntyre [mer...@geeks.org] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:47 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 Series On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:09:16PM -0700, Bill Blackford wrote: I am interested in hearing any feedback about the EX2200. In particular, anyone who has done a recent enterprise deployment in a converged and in particular, a mixed vendor environment. I've used the EX2200's, and aside from the limited features compared to the rest of the EX line, they operate exactly the same, just missing a couple things that are mentioned in the datasheets. Although they recently (12.x) brought Virtual Chassis to it, I haven't done that yet. As to mixed vendor, you'd have to state what protocols you are expecting in a mixed vendor? They do STP and RSTP just fine. They won't do cisco proprietary protocols, such as CDP or VDP. They have standards based proprotocols that are equivilent. I've done OSPF and BGP (still accounting for all switches have limited BGP route space) with no issues. Overall, I've had much less problems with the Juniper switches (aside from some bad releases, especially on the EX4550 line) than my cisco switches all around. I have had some wonkiness getting especially old cisco software talking, but the problem has always been on the cisco side. Usually upgrading the cisco to newer code solved their bugs (ie. LACP). ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- Bill Blackford Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
-Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:50 AM To: 'Juniper-Nsp' Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad) Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. Q-in-Q is now supported in 11.1, if you're that brave to use it. Haven't tested it out yet to see what features are really available, but release notes indicate that it's supported. -evt ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
I think its only supported on EX3200 and EX4200 -- Best regards Dan From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE Sent: 02 February 2011 15:50 To: 'Juniper-Nsp' Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad) Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3417 - Release Date: 02/01/11 ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
The last time we looked at using it for q-in-q it was not supported on the 2200... only 3200/4200 etc... Paul -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:50 AM To: 'Juniper-Nsp' Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad) Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:50 AM
To: 'Juniper-Nsp'
Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
Hi all,
Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would
like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I
only found that 802.1Q is supported.
Sorry, not supported:
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## Warning: statement ignored: unsupported platform (ex2200-24t-4g)
##
dot1q-tunneling;
}
The EX2200 supports very little beyond basic layer 2 services and static
routing.
-evt
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Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
Furthermore, on ex3200/ex4200, as of a few months ago, the inner and outer tpid's had to be the same, making interoperability with rfc compliant 802.1ad implementations [F10] not possible. YMMV, I filed an ER but I don't think it went anywhere. -Michael On 2/2/2011 10:02 AM, Dan Wilkinson wrote: I think its only supported on EX3200 and EX4200 -- Best regards Dan From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE Sent: 02 February 2011 15:50 To: 'Juniper-Nsp' Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad) Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3417 - Release Date: 02/01/11 ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
Hi Stephane, Best place to check is juniper website http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos10.4/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview.html There are many features not (yet) supported in EX2200 Regards, Ido. -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:50 PM To: 'Juniper-Nsp' Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad) Hi all, Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I only found that 802.1Q is supported. Regards. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
