Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 01:41:44 AM Caillin Bathern wrote: The X44-D10 release is Junos 12.2 for SRX/J Series platforms, eg flow-mode code. Flow mode is branching away from real Junos as 12.1X44-D10, D15, D20...etc until 13.2 or 13.3 when they will consolidate again so that development of flow-mode code can be sped up. When Juniper killed Junos on the J-series by making it JUNOS-ES (9.4, if my brain cells are still intact), they lost me on that side of the wall. That would have been a decent route reflector if it had been developed as such. Juniper need to stop banking on customers buying M120's or MX960's just for route reflection. Obviously, it would help if service providers stopped doing that also - believe me, I know a few. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Rajesh Narang nar...@juniper.net wrote: It is a documentation error that is being corrected and link will be updated soon. Updated: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html Cheers, Dale ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
* Paul Goyette 12.3 has now been released. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.2/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 Comparing the above seems to suggest that if you're using e.g. OSPFv2 or VRRP today, you must purchase an Advanced Feature Licence in order to upgrade to 12.3. Is that really the case? Also, what is meant with the phrase with four active interfaces for OSPF? I hope it does not mean that if you're running OSPF on five or more interfaces today, you simply cannot upgrade to 12.3? Best regards, -- Tore Anderson ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd. On 3 February 2013 20:57, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote: * Paul Goyette 12.3 has now been released. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.2/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 Comparing the above seems to suggest that if you're using e.g. OSPFv2 or VRRP today, you must purchase an Advanced Feature Licence in order to upgrade to 12.3. Is that really the case? Also, what is meant with the phrase with four active interfaces for OSPF? I hope it does not mean that if you're running OSPF on five or more interfaces today, you simply cannot upgrade to 12.3? Best regards, -- Tore Anderson ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- Regards, Craig Askings io Networks Pty Ltd. mobile: 0404 019365 phone: 1300 1 2 4 8 16 ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Craig Askings caski...@ionetworks.com.au wrote: Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd. I might think it less absurd if uRPF was more useful on EX3200 and friends. Is the current behavior still that uRPF-strict is enabled globally whenever you configure it for any one interface, and no allowance is made for having two default routes to upstream routers (ingress traffic from one upstream is discarded)? -- Jeff S Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
I can only hope this is all some sort of terrible documentation error. That list of features requiring an AFL (at least for the EX32/42/45/8200/xre) is counter to how we have been selling and implementing this kit for years. And our Juniper SE informed us a while back that 12.3 would no longer require an AFL for IPv6 routing protocols. I get the need for an EFL on the lower end EX22/3300 since those are priced low for simpler deployments, with an optional advanced feature-set for corner-cases. However if Juniper expects anyone to spend another MSRP $30k just to have 5+ OSPF interfaces or to enable VRRP on an EX8200 they are insane. As a data point, I put 12.3R1.7 on an EX3200 we have in the lab, and did not get any license warnings / errors when configuring most of the protocols listed in that 12.3 licensing link ( http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 ) I configured virtual routers, OSPFv3, RIPng, MLD, MSDP, and VRRP and did not get any of license needed warnings in the candidate config or when committing -- the only one I got is the one you always got in previous versions when configuring BGP, MPLS, and ISIS without a license. I can't remember if previous versions barked about IPv6 routing protocols or not, but it is not throwing warnings right now for RIPng or OSPFv3. Will On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, juniper-nsp-requ...@puck.nether.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:25:21 +1000 From: Craig Askings caski...@ionetworks.com.au To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date Message-ID: CACNe4wdvEb=cor6Hn2mCfbUGzVZMHvAecgjO2Wy8bqaPMP=e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
Wow that is interesting. I'm about to spend around $25k on licences for me EX range so I can run OSPFv3 without the stupid warnings clogging up my logs. But with the price of the AFL more expensive that the hardware it is a tough call getting it approved. If 12.3 doesn't need the AFL it may be worth an upgrade but then there is the bugs that will no doubt come along with a new version. Luca -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of William McLendon Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 5:52 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date I can only hope this is all some sort of terrible documentation error. That list of features requiring an AFL (at least for the EX32/42/45/8200/xre) is counter to how we have been selling and implementing this kit for years. And our Juniper SE informed us a while back that 12.3 would no longer require an AFL for IPv6 routing protocols. I get the need for an EFL on the lower end EX22/3300 since those are priced low for simpler deployments, with an optional advanced feature-set for corner-cases. However if Juniper expects anyone to spend another MSRP $30k just to have 5+ OSPF interfaces or to enable VRRP on an EX8200 they are insane. As a data point, I put 12.3R1.7 on an EX3200 we have in the lab, and did not get any license warnings / errors when configuring most of the protocols listed in that 12.3 licensing link ( http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146 ) I configured virtual routers, OSPFv3, RIPng, MLD, MSDP, and VRRP and did not get any of license needed warnings in the candidate config or when committing -- the only one I got is the one you always got in previous versions when configuring BGP, MPLS, and ISIS without a license. I can't remember if previous versions barked about IPv6 routing protocols or not, but it is not throwing warnings right now for RIPng or OSPFv3. Will On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, juniper-nsp-requ...@puck.nether.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:25:21 +1000 From: Craig Askings caski...@ionetworks.com.au To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date Message-ID: CACNe4wdvEb=cor6Hn2mCfbUGzVZMHvAecgjO2Wy8bqaPMP=e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:07:53 +0100 From: Andrei-Marius Radu andr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013 and indeed it will be an EEOL release. The release notes and documentation have been put on-line already, probably due to the planned release date of Jan 31st 2013. I guess they might've delayed release due to PSN-2013-01-823, but that's speculation. For everyone who wants to know what's new or broken: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/information-products/topic-collections/release-notes/12.3/index.html Kind regards, JP Velders ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
12.3, right on time. On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Paul Goyette pgoye...@juniper.net wrote: 12.3 has now been released. Yes, there was a posting delay due to PSN-2013-01-823, but posting is now complete. -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of JP Velders Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:54 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:07:53 +0100 From: Andrei-Marius Radu andr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013 and indeed it will be an EEOL release. The release notes and documentation have been put on-line already, probably due to the planned release date of Jan 31st 2013. I guess they might've delayed release due to PSN-2013-01-823, but that's speculation. For everyone who wants to know what's new or broken: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/information- products/topic-collections/release-notes/12.3/index.html Kind regards, JP Velders ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
Hello Maarten, From the name (X44-D10) that is a special release for a specific platform (could be QFX, PTX or something else). As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013 and indeed it will be an EEOL release. Cheers, Andrei. On 22/01/2013, Maarten van der Hoek maar...@vanderhoek.nl wrote: Guys, The 12.1X44-D10 which was released last week is the EEOL release! (According to the release notes) I've the fealing 12.3 will therefor not be released! Brgds, Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Namens Tima Maryin Verzonden: dinsdag 22 januari 2013 10:26 Aan: Saku Ytti CC: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Onderwerp: Re: [j-nsp] RE : Junos 12.3 Release Date Technically 12.3 belongs to 2012 and it's the last release of 2012 so it should be EEOL. On 22.01.2013 13:09, Saku Ytti wrote: http://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html --- 1Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release: Beginning with Junos 8.1 Juniper offers an Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release. The last Junos Release to reach general availability in a particular calendar year is the EEOL Release. So is our 2012 EEOL 12.2 or 12.3? : ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
The X44-D10 release is Junos 12.2 for SRX/J Series platforms, eg flow-mode code. Flow mode is branching away from real Junos as 12.1X44-D10, D15, D20...etc until 13.2 or 13.3 when they will consolidate again so that development of flow-mode code can be sped up. Cheers, Caillin -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andrei-Marius Radu Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013 4:08 AM To: Maarten van der Hoek; Tima Maryin; Saku Ytti; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date Hello Maarten, From the name (X44-D10) that is a special release for a specific platform (could be QFX, PTX or something else). As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013 and indeed it will be an EEOL release. Cheers, Andrei. On 22/01/2013, Maarten van der Hoek maar...@vanderhoek.nl wrote: Guys, The 12.1X44-D10 which was released last week is the EEOL release! (According to the release notes) I've the fealing 12.3 will therefor not be released! Brgds, Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Namens Tima Maryin Verzonden: dinsdag 22 januari 2013 10:26 Aan: Saku Ytti CC: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Onderwerp: Re: [j-nsp] RE : Junos 12.3 Release Date Technically 12.3 belongs to 2012 and it's the last release of 2012 so it should be EEOL. On 22.01.2013 13:09, Saku Ytti wrote: http://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html --- 1Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release: Beginning with Junos 8.1 Juniper offers an Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release. The last Junos Release to reach general availability in a particular calendar year is the EEOL Release. So is our 2012 EEOL 12.2 or 12.3? : ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
[j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
Hi all, Does anyone have a release date for 12.3 (real 12.3, not SRX special X releases)? The last I heard from Juniper was before the end of 2012... Cheers, Caillin ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp