Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-03-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 01:41:44 AM Caillin Bathern 
wrote:

 The X44-D10 release is Junos 12.2 for SRX/J Series
 platforms, eg flow-mode code.  Flow mode is branching
 away from real Junos as 12.1X44-D10, D15, D20...etc
 until 13.2 or 13.3 when they will consolidate again so
 that development of flow-mode code can be sped up.

When Juniper killed Junos on the J-series by making it 
JUNOS-ES (9.4, if my brain cells are still intact), they 
lost me on that side of the wall.

That would have been a decent route reflector if it had been 
developed as such. Juniper need to stop banking on customers 
buying M120's or MX960's just for route reflection. 
Obviously, it would help if service providers stopped doing 
that also - believe me, I know a few.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-13 Thread Dale Shaw
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Rajesh Narang nar...@juniper.net wrote:

 It is a documentation error that is being corrected and link will be updated 
 soon.

Updated:
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html

Cheers,
Dale
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-03 Thread Tore Anderson
* Paul Goyette

 12.3 has now been released.

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.2/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146

Comparing the above seems to suggest that if you're using e.g. OSPFv2 or
VRRP today, you must purchase an Advanced Feature Licence in order to
upgrade to 12.3. Is that really the case?

Also, what is meant with the phrase with four active interfaces for
OSPF? I hope it does not mean that if you're running OSPF on five or
more interfaces today, you simply cannot upgrade to 12.3?

Best regards,
-- 
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-03 Thread Craig Askings
Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast
reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd.


On 3 February 2013 20:57, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote:

 * Paul Goyette

  12.3 has now been released.


 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.2/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146

 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146

 Comparing the above seems to suggest that if you're using e.g. OSPFv2 or
 VRRP today, you must purchase an Advanced Feature Licence in order to
 upgrade to 12.3. Is that really the case?

 Also, what is meant with the phrase with four active interfaces for
 OSPF? I hope it does not mean that if you're running OSPF on five or
 more interfaces today, you simply cannot upgrade to 12.3?

 Best regards,
 --
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-03 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Craig Askings
caski...@ionetworks.com.au wrote:
 Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast
 reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd.

I might think it less absurd if uRPF was more useful on EX3200 and friends.

Is the current behavior still that uRPF-strict is enabled globally
whenever you configure it for any one interface, and no allowance is
made for having two default routes to upstream routers (ingress
traffic from one upstream is discarded)?

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-03 Thread William McLendon
I can only hope this is all some sort of terrible documentation error.  

That list of features requiring an AFL (at least for the EX32/42/45/8200/xre) 
is counter to how we have been selling and implementing this kit for years.  
And our Juniper SE informed us a while back that 12.3 would no longer require 
an AFL for IPv6 routing protocols.  I get the need for an EFL on the lower end 
EX22/3300 since those are priced low for simpler deployments, with an 
optional advanced feature-set for corner-cases.  However if Juniper expects 
anyone to spend another MSRP $30k just to have 5+ OSPF interfaces or to enable 
VRRP on an EX8200 they are insane.

As a data point, I put 12.3R1.7 on an EX3200 we have in the lab, and did not 
get any license warnings / errors when configuring most of the protocols listed 
in that 12.3 licensing link ( 
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146
 )

I configured virtual routers, OSPFv3, RIPng, MLD, MSDP, and VRRP and did not 
get any of license needed warnings in the candidate config or when committing 
-- the only one I got is the one you always got in previous versions when 
configuring BGP, MPLS, and ISIS without a license.  I can't remember if 
previous versions barked about IPv6 routing protocols or not, but it is not 
throwing warnings right now for RIPng or OSPFv3.


Will


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 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:25:21 +1000
 From: Craig Askings caski...@ionetworks.com.au
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 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
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 Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support Unicast
 reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd.

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-03 Thread Luca Salvatore
Wow that is interesting.

I'm about to spend around $25k on licences for me EX range so I can run OSPFv3 
without the stupid warnings clogging up my logs.
But with the price of the AFL more expensive that the hardware it is a tough 
call getting it approved.
If 12.3 doesn't need the AFL it may be worth an upgrade but then there is 
the bugs that will no doubt come along with a new version.

Luca


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[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of William McLendon
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 5:52 AM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

I can only hope this is all some sort of terrible documentation error.  

That list of features requiring an AFL (at least for the EX32/42/45/8200/xre) 
is counter to how we have been selling and implementing this kit for years.  
And our Juniper SE informed us a while back that 12.3 would no longer require 
an AFL for IPv6 routing protocols.  I get the need for an EFL on the lower end 
EX22/3300 since those are priced low for simpler deployments, with an 
optional advanced feature-set for corner-cases.  However if Juniper expects 
anyone to spend another MSRP $30k just to have 5+ OSPF interfaces or to enable 
VRRP on an EX8200 they are insane.

As a data point, I put 12.3R1.7 on an EX3200 we have in the lab, and did not 
get any license warnings / errors when configuring most of the protocols listed 
in that 12.3 licensing link ( 
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/topics/concept/ex-series-software-licenses-overview.html#jd0e146
 )

I configured virtual routers, OSPFv3, RIPng, MLD, MSDP, and VRRP and did not 
get any of license needed warnings in the candidate config or when committing 
-- the only one I got is the one you always got in previous versions when 
configuring BGP, MPLS, and ISIS without a license.  I can't remember if 
previous versions barked about IPv6 routing protocols or not, but it is not 
throwing warnings right now for RIPng or OSPFv3.


Will


On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, juniper-nsp-requ...@puck.nether.net wrote:

 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:25:21 +1000
 From: Craig Askings caski...@ionetworks.com.au
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
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 Juniper now want you to buy a Advanced features licence to support 
 Unicast reverse-path forwarding (RPF), this is getting absurd.

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-02 Thread JP Velders

 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:07:53 +0100
 From: Andrei-Marius Radu andr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

 As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013
 and indeed it will be an EEOL release.

The release notes and documentation have been put on-line already, 
probably due to the planned release date of Jan 31st 2013. I guess 
they might've delayed release due to PSN-2013-01-823, but that's 
speculation.

For everyone who wants to know what's new or broken:
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/information-products/topic-collections/release-notes/12.3/index.html

Kind regards,
JP Velders
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-02-02 Thread Tim Eberhard
12.3, right on time. 


On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Paul Goyette pgoye...@juniper.net wrote:

 12.3 has now been released.
 
 Yes, there was a posting delay due to PSN-2013-01-823, but 
 posting is now complete.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of JP Velders
 Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:54 PM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
 
 
 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:07:53 +0100
 From: Andrei-Marius Radu andr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date
 
 As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013
 and indeed it will be an EEOL release.
 
 The release notes and documentation have been put on-line already,
 probably due to the planned release date of Jan 31st 2013. I guess
 they might've delayed release due to PSN-2013-01-823, but that's
 speculation.
 
 For everyone who wants to know what's new or broken:
 http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos12.3/information-
 products/topic-collections/release-notes/12.3/index.html
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-01-22 Thread Andrei-Marius Radu
Hello Maarten,

From the name (X44-D10) that is a special release for a specific
platform (could be QFX, PTX or something else).

As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013
and indeed it will be an EEOL release.

Cheers,
Andrei.

On 22/01/2013, Maarten van der Hoek maar...@vanderhoek.nl wrote:
 Guys,

 The 12.1X44-D10 which was released last week is the EEOL release!
 (According to the release notes)

 I've the fealing 12.3 will therefor not be released!

 Brgds,

 Maarten

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Namens Tima Maryin
 Verzonden: dinsdag 22 januari 2013 10:26
 Aan: Saku Ytti
 CC: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Onderwerp: Re: [j-nsp] RE : Junos 12.3 Release Date

 Technically 12.3 belongs to 2012 and it's the last release of 2012 so it
 should be EEOL.




 On 22.01.2013 13:09, Saku Ytti wrote:

 http://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html
 ---
 1Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release:
 Beginning with Junos 8.1 Juniper offers an Extended End of Life (EEOL)
 Release. The last Junos Release to reach general availability in a
 particular calendar year is the EEOL Release.
 

 So is our 2012 EEOL 12.2 or 12.3? :
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-01-22 Thread Caillin Bathern
The X44-D10 release is Junos 12.2 for SRX/J Series platforms, eg
flow-mode code.  Flow mode is branching away from real Junos as
12.1X44-D10, D15, D20...etc until 13.2 or 13.3 when they will
consolidate again so that development of flow-mode code can be sped up.

Cheers,
Caillin

-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
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Radu
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013 4:08 AM
To: Maarten van der Hoek; Tima Maryin; Saku Ytti;
juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

Hello Maarten,

From the name (X44-D10) that is a special release for a specific
platform (could be QFX, PTX or something else).

As far as I am aware 12.3 will be released at the beginning of 2013 and
indeed it will be an EEOL release.

Cheers,
Andrei.

On 22/01/2013, Maarten van der Hoek maar...@vanderhoek.nl wrote:
 Guys,

 The 12.1X44-D10 which was released last week is the EEOL release!
 (According to the release notes)

 I've the fealing 12.3 will therefor not be released!

 Brgds,

 Maarten

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Namens Tima Maryin
 Verzonden: dinsdag 22 januari 2013 10:26
 Aan: Saku Ytti
 CC: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Onderwerp: Re: [j-nsp] RE : Junos 12.3 Release Date

 Technically 12.3 belongs to 2012 and it's the last release of 2012 so 
 it should be EEOL.




 On 22.01.2013 13:09, Saku Ytti wrote:

 http://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html
 ---
 1Extended End of Life (EEOL) Release:
 Beginning with Junos 8.1 Juniper offers an Extended End of Life 
 (EEOL) Release. The last Junos Release to reach general availability 
 in a particular calendar year is the EEOL Release.
 

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[j-nsp] Junos 12.3 Release Date

2013-01-21 Thread Caillin Bathern
Hi all,

Does anyone have a release date for 12.3 (real 12.3, not SRX special X
releases)?

The last I heard from Juniper was before the end of 2012...

Cheers,
Caillin

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