Re: [j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

2020-03-17 Thread Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp
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Chuck is not running Fusion of any kind.

Chuck, I "think" we are going to eventually certify (not re-sell) one of these 
adapters, most likely Mellanox.  We cannot certify all, that is for sure.  
Hopefully at that time, we can add whatever might be needed to get DOM support, 
if possible.

Regards and FYI, Rich

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 
978-618-3342
 
I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it
 

On 3/16/20, 5:15 PM, "Jackson, William"  wrote:

Yes 

We have used the ones from flexoptix

They tend to work correctly, but like you mentioned you lose the DOM and 
also the optic partcode may not display correctly on a show chassis hardware.

Apart from that work quite well.

Note:  don't bother trying to use these for a fusion setup on the satellite 
side as it doesn't work.
They can work on the AD device with a native 10GE port on the satellite, 
but using them on the satellite in a 40/100GE port  as a 10GE uplink, is a no 
go.

will



-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Anderson
Sent: 16 March 2020 21:06
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
    Subject: [j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

Has anyone tried using QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters such as this one?  What 
software versions have you tried?

https://www.fs.com/products/72587.html

I'm testing these on QFX10002-36Q with 17.3R3-S7.2 and SFP+ 10G-LR modules. 
 The links come up and pass LLDP and IP traffic, but DOM doesn't work:

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/30:0 Physical 
interface: xe-0/0/30:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/31:0 Physical 
interface: xe-0/0/31:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show chassis hardware
Hardware inventory:
Item Version  Part number  Serial number Description
  PIC 0   BUILTIN  BUILTIN   36X40G
Xcvr 30   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN
Xcvr 31   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN


root@spine-1> show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 0 
FPC slot 0, PIC slot 0 information:
  Type 36X40G
  StateOnline
  PIC version 2.47
  Uptime 26 days, 40 minutes, 44 seconds

PIC port information:
 FiberXcvr vendor   Wave-   
 Xcvr
  Port Cable typetype  Xcvr vendorpart number   length  
 Firmware
  30   unknown cable n/an/a 
 0.0   
  31   unknown cable n/an/a 
 0.0   


{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces terse xe-*
Interface   Admin Link ProtoLocal Remote
xe-0/0/30:0 upup
xe-0/0/30:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.1/30 
xe-0/0/30:1 updown
xe-0/0/30:2 updown
xe-0/0/30:3 updown
xe-0/0/31:0 upup
xe-0/0/31:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.5/30 
xe-0/0/31:1 updown
xe-0/0/31:2 updown
xe-0/0/31:3 updown
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Re: [j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

2020-03-16 Thread Thomas Bellman
On 2020-03-16 21:06, Chuck Anderson wrote:

> Has anyone tried using QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters such as this one?  What
> software versions have you tried?
> 
> https://www.fs.com/products/72587.html
> 
> I'm testing these on QFX10002-36Q with 17.3R3-S7.2 and SFP+ 10G-LR modules.
> The links come up and pass LLDP and IP traffic, but DOM doesn't work:

We have some equivalent adapters from Mellanox.  On a QFX5120 (running Junos
192.R1-S3) where we use those adapters, I don't get any DOM either, but on
Dell Z9100 switches (running DNOS 9.14(2.4)) I do get DOM.  However, it might
be that the Dell switches got some newer version of the adapters; I'm fairly
certain the adapters in the Dells are ones we received in 2018, while I suspect
the adapters in the Juniper are ones we got in the 2012-2014 timespan.

I might be able to check and test sometime later this week, but no promises.


-- 
Thomas Bellman,  National Supercomputer Centre,  Linköping Univ., Sweden
"We don't understand the software, and sometimes we don't understand
 the hardware, but we can *see* the blinking lights!"



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Re: [j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

2020-03-16 Thread Jackson, William
Yes 

We have used the ones from flexoptix

They tend to work correctly, but like you mentioned you lose the DOM and also 
the optic partcode may not display correctly on a show chassis hardware.

Apart from that work quite well.

Note:  don't bother trying to use these for a fusion setup on the satellite 
side as it doesn't work.
They can work on the AD device with a native 10GE port on the satellite, but 
using them on the satellite in a 40/100GE port  as a 10GE uplink, is a no go.

will



-Original Message-
From: juniper-nsp  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Anderson
Sent: 16 March 2020 21:06
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

Has anyone tried using QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters such as this one?  What software 
versions have you tried?

https://www.fs.com/products/72587.html

I'm testing these on QFX10002-36Q with 17.3R3-S7.2 and SFP+ 10G-LR modules.  
The links come up and pass LLDP and IP traffic, but DOM doesn't work:

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/30:0 Physical 
interface: xe-0/0/30:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/31:0 Physical 
interface: xe-0/0/31:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show chassis hardware
Hardware inventory:
Item Version  Part number  Serial number Description
  PIC 0   BUILTIN  BUILTIN   36X40G
Xcvr 30   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN
Xcvr 31   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN


root@spine-1> show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 0 
FPC slot 0, PIC slot 0 information:
  Type 36X40G
  StateOnline
  PIC version 2.47
  Uptime 26 days, 40 minutes, 44 seconds

PIC port information:
 FiberXcvr vendor   Wave-
Xcvr
  Port Cable typetype  Xcvr vendorpart number   length   
Firmware
  30   unknown cable n/an/a  
0.0   
  31   unknown cable n/an/a  
0.0   


{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces terse xe-*
Interface   Admin Link ProtoLocal Remote
xe-0/0/30:0 upup
xe-0/0/30:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.1/30 
xe-0/0/30:1 updown
xe-0/0/30:2 updown
xe-0/0/30:3 updown
xe-0/0/31:0 upup
xe-0/0/31:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.5/30 
xe-0/0/31:1 updown
xe-0/0/31:2 updown
xe-0/0/31:3 updown
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[j-nsp] QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters

2020-03-16 Thread Chuck Anderson
Has anyone tried using QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters such as this one?  What software 
versions have you tried?

https://www.fs.com/products/72587.html

I'm testing these on QFX10002-36Q with 17.3R3-S7.2 and SFP+ 10G-LR modules.  
The links come up and pass LLDP and IP traffic, but DOM doesn't work:

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/30:0 
Physical interface: xe-0/0/30:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/0/31:0 
Physical interface: xe-0/0/31:0
Optical diagnostics   :  N/A

{master:0}
root@spine-1> show chassis hardware 
Hardware inventory:
Item Version  Part number  Serial number Description
  PIC 0   BUILTIN  BUILTIN   36X40G
Xcvr 30   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN
Xcvr 31   NON-JNPR   UNKNOWN


root@spine-1> show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 0 
FPC slot 0, PIC slot 0 information:
  Type 36X40G
  StateOnline
  PIC version 2.47
  Uptime 26 days, 40 minutes, 44 seconds

PIC port information:
 FiberXcvr vendor   Wave-
Xcvr
  Port Cable typetype  Xcvr vendorpart number   length   
Firmware
  30   unknown cable n/an/a  
0.0   
  31   unknown cable n/an/a  
0.0   


{master:0}
root@spine-1> show interfaces terse xe-*
Interface   Admin Link ProtoLocal Remote
xe-0/0/30:0 upup
xe-0/0/30:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.1/30 
xe-0/0/30:1 updown
xe-0/0/30:2 updown
xe-0/0/30:3 updown
xe-0/0/31:0 upup
xe-0/0/31:0.0   upup   inet 10.0.0.5/30 
xe-0/0/31:1 updown
xe-0/0/31:2 updown
xe-0/0/31:3 updown
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