Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread Per Granath
You could use the install command under the LSP on the ingress PE (which is 
somewhat manual), or you could change from OSPF to BGP on the CMTS...

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From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of James Ashton
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:07 PM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.

I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch. 
That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core. It has 
several paths into it from rest of the network.
From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs created to the 
MX480.
I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the network.

As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network via OSPF, 
and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to these users is not 
being forwarded over the LSPs.
I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that is 
breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd configs. 

My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs in way 
that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.


I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.

Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.

James
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Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread Phil Bedard
Is it all one OSPF area or is the CMTS in an area other than 0? If the
MX480 is an ABR you can restrict the OSPF routes and originate them on
the MX480 as BGP instead using aggregate statements.

Phil From: James Ashton
Sent: 1/17/2013 11:07
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.

I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch.
That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core.
It has several paths into it from rest of the network.
From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs
created to the MX480.
I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the network.

As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network
via OSPF, and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to
these users is not being forwarded over the LSPs.
I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that
is breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd
configs.

My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs
in way that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.


I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.

Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.

James
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Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread James Ashton
Phil,
 Thanks, This is an interesting idea.  Not something I had though of. Seams 
like a logical solution though.

Ill take a look at it.

Thanks
James

- Original Message -
From: Phil Bedard phil...@gmail.com
To: James Ashton ja...@gitflorida.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:49:21 AM
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

Is it all one OSPF area or is the CMTS in an area other than 0? If the
MX480 is an ABR you can restrict the OSPF routes and originate them on
the MX480 as BGP instead using aggregate statements.

Phil From: James Ashton
Sent: 1/17/2013 11:07
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.

I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch.
That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core.
It has several paths into it from rest of the network.
From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs
created to the MX480.
I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the network.

As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network
via OSPF, and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to
these users is not being forwarded over the LSPs.
I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that
is breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd
configs.

My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs
in way that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.


I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.

Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.

James
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Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread James Ashton
All, Just to clarify a few things,

 The destination is not in inet.3.  I do not have a direct LSP to the 
destination and cannot create one (The destination doesn't support MPLS nor 
does it support BGP)



The show route output is:
jashton@cr01-re0 show route xx.xxx.xx.x/24

inet.0: 448173 destinations, 3298320 routes (445123 active, 39 holddown, 465440 
hidden)
@ = Routing Use Only, # = Forwarding Use Only
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

xx.xxx.xx.x/24 *[OSPF/150] 1d 12:35:24, metric 20, tag 0
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 01:03:59, localpref 100, from xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:17:07, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae3.0
[BGP/170] 6d 18:57:09, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:03:11, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:02:45, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:18:02, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:40:10, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 2d 13:54:44, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae6.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:20:12, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:31:28, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:40:12, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0

inet.3: 1232 destinations, 1248 routes (9 active, 0 holddown, 1232 hidden)

- Original Message -
From: Colby Barth cba...@juniper.net
To: James Ashton ja...@gitflorida.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:31:51 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

James-

Could you possibly send the output of 'show route x.x.x.x/y' for one of the 
destinations that you think should resolve over the LSP?

I suspect that this destinations are not in inet3 for some reason.

-Colby

On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Phil Bedard wrote:

 Is it all one OSPF area or is the CMTS in an area other than 0? If the
 MX480 is an ABR you can restrict the OSPF routes and originate them on
 the MX480 as BGP instead using aggregate statements.
 
 Phil From: James Ashton
 Sent: 1/17/2013 11:07
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
 I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.
 
 I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch.
 That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core.
 It has several paths into it from rest of the network.
 From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs
 created to the MX480.
 I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the 
 network.
 
 As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network
 via OSPF, and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to
 these users is not being forwarded over the LSPs.
 I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that
 is breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd
 configs.
 
 My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs
 in way that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.
 
 
 I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.
 
 Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread Colby Barth
The dest prefix needs to resolve over the LSP.  IGP short-cuts is an easy way 
to make that happen and should work for you but I see you tried that already 
and had some issue.  I would suggest trying to understand why igp shortcuts 
breaks something else.  

You can also use a rib-group on the LSP head-end to populate inet3 as needed.

-cb

On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:11 AM, James Ashton wrote:

 All, Just to clarify a few things,
 
 The destination is not in inet.3.  I do not have a direct LSP to the 
 destination and cannot create one (The destination doesn't support MPLS nor 
 does it support BGP)
 
 
 
 The show route output is:
 jashton@cr01-re0 show route xx.xxx.xx.x/24
 
 inet.0: 448173 destinations, 3298320 routes (445123 active, 39 holddown, 
 465440 hidden)
 @ = Routing Use Only, # = Forwarding Use Only
 + = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both
 
 xx.xxx.xx.x/24 *[OSPF/150] 1d 12:35:24, metric 20, tag 0
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 01:03:59, localpref 100, from xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:17:07, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae3.0
[BGP/170] 6d 18:57:09, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:03:11, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:02:45, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae2.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:18:02, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:40:10, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 2d 13:54:44, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via ae6.0
[BGP/170] 6d 19:20:12, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-4/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:31:28, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
[BGP/170] 6d 17:40:12, MED 20, localpref 100, from 
 xx.xxx.xx.x
  AS path: I
 to xx.xxx.xx.x via xe-5/2/0.0
 
 inet.3: 1232 destinations, 1248 routes (9 active, 0 holddown, 1232 hidden)
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Colby Barth cba...@juniper.net
 To: James Ashton ja...@gitflorida.com
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:31:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
 
 James-
 
 Could you possibly send the output of 'show route x.x.x.x/y' for one of the 
 destinations that you think should resolve over the LSP?
 
 I suspect that this destinations are not in inet3 for some reason.
 
 -Colby
 
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Phil Bedard wrote:
 
 Is it all one OSPF area or is the CMTS in an area other than 0? If the
 MX480 is an ABR you can restrict the OSPF routes and originate them on
 the MX480 as BGP instead using aggregate statements.
 
 Phil From: James Ashton
 Sent: 1/17/2013 11:07
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
 I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.
 
 I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch.
 That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core.
 It has several paths into it from rest of the network.
 From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs
 created to the MX480.
 I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the 
 network.
 
 As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network
 via OSPF, and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to
 these users is not being forwarded over the LSPs.
 I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that
 is breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd
 configs.
 
 My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs
 in way that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.
 
 
 I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.
 
 Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

2013-01-18 Thread Phil Bedard
This is the way we (and many others) run our core network, there are
very few IGP routes other than loopbacks and interface addresses. If
you need an example let me know but the main command is area-range
x.x.x.x/x restrict.

Phil From: James Ashton
Sent: 1/18/2013 10:13
To: Phil Bedard
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
Phil,
 Thanks, This is an interesting idea.  Not something I had though of.
Seams like a logical solution though.

Ill take a look at it.

Thanks
James

- Original Message -
From: Phil Bedard phil...@gmail.com
To: James Ashton ja...@gitflorida.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:49:21 AM
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs

Is it all one OSPF area or is the CMTS in an area other than 0? If the
MX480 is an ABR you can restrict the OSPF routes and originate them on
the MX480 as BGP instead using aggregate statements.

Phil From: James Ashton
Sent: 1/17/2013 11:07
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] Traffic balancing over LSPs
I have an interesting situation that has me stumped for the moment.

I have an OSPF speaking device (ARRIS CMTS) hanging off from an EX Switch.
That switch is uplinked to an MX480 which is part of the network core.
It has several paths into it from rest of the network.
From several major traffic centers in the network I have 3 LSPs
created to the MX480.
I am running mpls traffic-engineering mpls-forwarding throughout the network.

As the end users hanging off the CMTS are advertised onto the network
via OSPF, and I cannot terminate LSPs on the CMTS, the traffic to
these users is not being forwarded over the LSPs.
I have tested enabling ospf traffic-engineering shortcuts but that
is breaking several paths in the network to legacy areas with odd
configs.

My question is basically, how can I get this traffic into these LSPs
in way that is more manageable at scale than a pile of static routes.


I hope the above is clear,  I am low on Caffeine at the moment.

Thank you in  advance for any help/ideas.

James
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