[Powerdevil] [Bug 420541] Low and critical battery notifications should not time out or should take a very long time to time out

2020-04-30 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420541

--- Comment #7 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
Git commit 45dd7bbfe18bfb91da08f2a2d07ca67e2e9401dd by Kai Uwe Broulik.
Committed on 30/04/2020 at 18:04.
Pushed by broulik into branch 'master'.

Make low battery notification critical

This ensures you have to acknowledge it and be aware that the battery is
running low.
Otherwise you'll only be notified during a presentation when it's critical.

Differential Revision: https://phabricator.kde.org/D29309

M  +35   -2daemon/powerdevilcore.cpp
M  +2-0daemon/powerdevilcore.h

https://commits.kde.org/powerdevil/45dd7bbfe18bfb91da08f2a2d07ca67e2e9401dd

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 420541] Low and critical battery notifications should not time out or should take a very long time to time out

2020-04-30 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420541

--- Comment #6 from Nate Graham  ---
What I think we have here is a conflict between the legitimate desire to keep
notifications out of the way and non-annoying with the legitimate desire to
make critical notifications adequately attnetion-getting.

This may seem strange, but anecdotally I have observed users who completely
miss notification pop-ups in the periphery of their screens. This is hard for
me to understand since for me the pop-up is impossible to miss. But I have seen
this happen quite often for my wife (who uses Plasma) and my mother, father,
and sister (who all use MacOS, which has a similar style of pop-up). Raitaro
seems to be experiencing the same issue.

I have never seen this happen for people using Windows 10, which has enormous,
intrusive, stupid-looking pop-ups. But that's not a great solution since then
non-critical pop-ups get in your way and annoy you a ton. It's an
unsatisfactory sledgehammer solution, but it seems to have been specifically
designed to address this, which I think is evidence that it's a legitimate
issue.

Perhaps we can satisfy both parties by keeping non-critical notifications
exactly as they are (small, out of the way, unobtrusive) while somehow
increasing the visual prominence of only critical notifications. I think the
proposed full screen overlay is much too intrusive, but maybe we could consider
some kind of middle ground? Like making the pop-up bigger, or making it wiggle
or giving it a pulsing red border or header or something (just random ideas)?
Critical notifications are the kind of thing you really *do* need to see, read
and acknowledge.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 420541] Low and critical battery notifications should not time out or should take a very long time to time out

2020-04-29 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420541

--- Comment #5 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
> THE KDE with too many settings?
That's why I don't want to add new random settings, can only be in your
interest then.

I still don't see the problem. The battery critical notification shows on top
of everything. We have an option to change the threshold where it warns. Maybe
battery low could also be changed to be on top of everything and never time out
so you'd have to acknowledge it.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 420541] Low and critical battery notifications should not time out or should take a very long time to time out

2020-04-29 Thread RaitaroH
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420541

--- Comment #4 from RaitaroH  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)
> If we made that a full-screen overlay, I guarantee that there would be a
> subset of users who would call for our heads on platters. :) Imagine how
> disruptive it would be if you were giving a presentation or playing a game.
Aren't we talking about KDE here? THE KDE with too many settings? Couldn't this
be an optional setting for those who want it? I totally agree that a fullscreen
thing can be bothering... and that's the point is it not? There is already a
mute notifications option as well which could be used with this. Personally I
made my battery notifications to always show up.


> Yes, you want to be notified that you need to stop what you're doing or plug
> in the computer, but not at the cost of obscuring everything you're
> currently doing.
Precisely because I am doing something important, I would like to not lose all
that progress, because I missed a notification whilst being too absorbed in
whatever I was doing. Isn't that right?

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 420541] Low and critical battery notifications should not time out or should take a very long time to time out

2020-04-27 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420541

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED
 CC||n...@kde.org
   Keywords||usability
Summary|More obvious low and|Low and critical battery
   |critical battery|notifications should not
   |notifications   |time out or should take a
   ||very long time to time out
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham  ---
If we made that a full-screen overlay, I guarantee that there would be a subset
of users who would call for our heads on platters. :) Imagine how disruptive it
would be if you were giving a presentation or playing a game. Yes, you want to
be notified that you need to stop what you're doing or plug in the computer,
but not at the cost of obscuring everything you're currently doing.

I agree with you that the notification pop-up shouldn't time out after one
minute though. If you get up to go make tea or use the backroom, it could
easily disappear before you see it.

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