[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #259 from Nate Graham --- PLEASE NOTE! If you are using Plasma 5.27 or later and you believe you are still experiencing the bug, please file a new bug report for it, rather than commenting in here. This is because in 5.27 and beyond, the code has changed significantly enough that new manifestations of the same issue are likely to have different root causes. Thanks everyone! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #258 from Derek --- Same issue. Everything was working and somewhere I along the way I was trying to switch back to nouveau drivers it didnt boot because I didnt realize nvidia driver installed blacklisting. either way I reverted back to the nvidia and for somereason now had mirroring happening and took me a minute to realize the monitors where stacked on top of each other in the Settings -> Display and Monitor settings window and I dragged the monitor off the other one and made them side by side and when I did that's when the black monitor happened. If i orient the monitor to vertical or upside down it displays normally but when I switch back to normal orientation it turns black. very strange. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Derek changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dcostr...@gmail.com --- Comment #257 from Derek --- Same issue. Everything was working and somewhere I along the way I was trying to switch back to nouveau drivers it didnt boot because I didnt realize nvidia driver installed blacklisting. either way I reverted back to the nvidia and for somereason now had mirroring happening and took me a minute to realize the monitors where stacked on top of each other in the Settings -> Display and Monitor settings window and I dragged the monitor off the other one and made them side by side and when I did that's when the black monitor happened. If i orient the monitor to vertical or upside down it displays normally but when I switch back to normal orientation it turns black. very strange. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED --- Comment #256 from Nate Graham --- PLEASE NOTE! If you are using Plasma 5.27 or later and you believe you are still experiencing the bug, please file a new bug report for it, rather than commenting in here. This is because in 5.27 and beyond, the code has changed significantly enough that new manifestations of the same issue are likely to have different root causes. Thanks everyone! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In||5.27 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||cjd...@brokensolstice.com --- Comment #255 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 464414 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||gendi...@gmail.com --- Comment #254 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 464157 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 postix changed: What|Removed |Added See Also|https://bugs.kde.org/show_b | |ug.cgi?id=450068| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #253 from Nate Graham --- Yes, the issue will continue to recur until we fix Bug 450068. It's just not really possible to fix 100% with the current system. That's why we're re-doing it to make this kind of bug possible to actually fix! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #252 from Fushan Wen --- (In reply to Alexey Chernyak from comment #251) > (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #248) > > (In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #247) > > > A possibly relevant merge request was started @ > > > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2186 > > > > Could people seeing the bug try this patch to see if the bug is > > ""mitigated"? > > Tried with the patch applied to v5.26 Plasma on Gentoo. > Issue remains. > After waking two DisplayPort monitors from sleep, one of them has black > screen with no wallpaper, no icons, no context menu. Thank you for testing! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #251 from Alexey Chernyak --- (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #248) > (In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #247) > > A possibly relevant merge request was started @ > > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2186 > > Could people seeing the bug try this patch to see if the bug is ""mitigated"? Tried with the patch applied to v5.26 Plasma on Gentoo. Issue remains. After waking two DisplayPort monitors from sleep, one of them has black screen with no wallpaper, no icons, no context menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #250 from Fushan Wen --- (In reply to H.G.Blob from comment #249) > I have no problem testing it, but I'm not sure what I need to do. I suppose > I need to recompile something? > I'm currently on neon testing, so shouldn't be too far from the commit. I am not familiar with deb packaging so I can't really help here. The patch will not be shipped until tested, but unfortunately I can't reproduce the bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 mira...@mirandastreeter.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mira...@mirandastreeter.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #249 from H.G.Blob --- I have no problem testing it, but I'm not sure what I need to do. I suppose I need to recompile something? I'm currently on neon testing, so shouldn't be too far from the commit. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #248 from Fushan Wen --- (In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #247) > A possibly relevant merge request was started @ > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2186 Could people seeing the bug try this patch to see if the bug is ""mitigated"? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #247 from Bug Janitor Service --- A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2186 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #246 from Fushan Wen --- Git commit 579075f53a49c4e248b5d83a43ee83a903b06272 by Fushan Wen. Committed on 21/09/2022 at 06:54. Pushed by fusionfuture into branch 'Plasma/5.24'. Revert "Revert "Prevent panel going out of screen boundaries"" This reverts commit 17774bc4c673294a7c8a6e80660d83cce1ba8891 There is still a known culprit (duplicate display names) so the hack shouldn't be reverted. Related: bug 438114 (cherry picked from commit 9c7ac7061c5c85d63875eaee70793ba04334c1d0) M +3-0shell/panelview.cpp https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/commit/579075f53a49c4e248b5d83a43ee83a903b06272 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #245 from Ben --- I have 2 installations of opensuse tumblesweed on the same PC: Main OS: I dont know if this is relevant at all But on my main OS (which i use all the time) upon booting up, i get a grey background with three small green squares on it that all cycles alone a few times, then i wait about 10 seconds then the SDDM login screen appears on all monitors My Primary monitor often has a black screen on it when i boot up (no wallpaper) Second OS: Upon bootup - i get the usual normal expected Linux Output Text before the SDDM screen comes on all monitors No issues at all with the primary monitor desktop background wallpaper Does the difference between the 2 OS's with regards to the "grey screen with 3 small squares on it" on the first OS but not the second OS have any relevance ? considering that second OS does not have the black screen bug ? The 2 OS's are on different SSDs Monitors & their Connections: 1. SONY 32" - HDMI cable to AMD/ATI Radeon video card - Main PC Desktop monitor - PRIMARY 2. VA905 10" - DVI cable to AMD/ATI Radeon video card - Second Monitor 3. SONY 40" - HDMI cable to Motherboard (i915 driver) - Intel HD4000 GPU Motherboard Chip AMD/ATI = Radeon HD 7850 (7000 Series) PCI-E Video Card KDE Display Set up is as above from left to right hand side Main OS: [ScreenConnectors] 0=HDMI-A-3 1=VGA-1-1 2=HDMI-1-1 3=VGA-1 4=HDMI-A-1 5=HDMI-A-2 6=HDMI-1-2 [Updates] performed=/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/containmentactions_middlebutton.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/digitalclock_rename_timezonedisplay_key.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/klipper_clear_config.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/maintain_existing_desktop_icon_sizes.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/move_desktop_layout_config.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/no_middle_click_paste_on_panels.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/systemloadviewer_systemmonitor.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/unlock_widgets.js Second OS: [ScreenConnectors] 0=HDMI-A-3 1=VGA-1 2=HDMI-A-1 3=HDMI-A-2 [Updates] performed=/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/containmentactions_middlebutton.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/digitalclock_rename_timezonedisplay_key.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/klipper_clear_config.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/maintain_existing_desktop_icon_sizes.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/move_desktop_layout_config.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/systemloadviewer_systemmonitor.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/unlock_widgets.js,/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/no_middle_click_paste_on_panels.js -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #244 from Fushan Wen --- Git commit df793b9bbd874776ad65808893717517c1c0e5ec by Fushan Wen. Committed on 16/09/2022 at 14:35. Pushed by fusionfuture into branch 'Plasma/5.26'. Revert "Revert "Prevent panel going out of screen boundaries"" This reverts commit 17774bc4c673294a7c8a6e80660d83cce1ba8891 There is still a known culprit (duplicate display names) so the hack shouldn't be reverted. Related: bug 438114 (cherry picked from commit 9c7ac7061c5c85d63875eaee70793ba04334c1d0) M +3-0shell/panelview.cpp https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/commit/df793b9bbd874776ad65808893717517c1c0e5ec -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #243 from Marco Martin --- Git commit 9c7ac7061c5c85d63875eaee70793ba04334c1d0 by Marco Martin, on behalf of Fushan Wen. Committed on 16/09/2022 at 14:34. Pushed by mart into branch 'master'. Revert "Revert "Prevent panel going out of screen boundaries"" This reverts commit 17774bc4c673294a7c8a6e80660d83cce1ba8891 There is still a known culprit (duplicate display names) so the hack shouldn't be reverted. Related: bug 438114 M +3-0shell/panelview.cpp https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/commit/9c7ac7061c5c85d63875eaee70793ba04334c1d0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #242 from Bug Janitor Service --- A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/2125 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||globalun...@disroot.org --- Comment #241 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 459080 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #240 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 353722 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 galder changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lestofant...@gmail.com --- Comment #239 from galder --- *** Bug 413326 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #238 from H.G.Blob --- (In reply to Trent M from comment #236) For whatever is worth, I see the same issue on _Wayland_ with 2 monitors where one is rotated 90o. I can see the main screen partially overlapped, but when I click on that artefact it goes away. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #237 from Lukas Sommer --- > Lukas, on your right monitor, do you sometimes see the wallpapers partially > overlapped when this problem is occurring? Yes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #236 from Trent M --- Gene C is right; be careful that your window titles aren't showing any sensitive information when you share your results. It is my bad for not cautioning against that as well. I apologize. Lukas, your test case proves that my hypothesis is correct in some situations. It does not appear to be the case for all situations, but at least I was not completely off base. See here, when you are first experiencing the error: > 0x02400017 -1 1280 01920 1080 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma > 0x0240001d -1 1920 01280 1024 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma These are the desktop windows. The third through seventh columns represent x position, y position, width, and height, in that order. Now see the same windows when you are not having the problem: > 0x02400017 -1 1280 01920 1080 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma > 0x0240001d -1 001280 1024 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma One of your monitors' desktop windows stays in the right place, the one at 1280,0. That's your right-side monitor. However, the desktop window that should be covering your left monitor wanders off to 1920,0 in the case where you are experiencing the black-screen bug, leaving the completely useless root window exposed beneath it. And interestingly, it causes the two windows to overlap *partially*, not completely. Lukas, on your right monitor, do you sometimes see the wallpapers partially overlapped when this problem is occurring? The fact that your monitors have different sizes exposes a pretty interesting facet of this problem. During the case where the black screen monitor bug is occurring, the desktop windows don't seem to know which of them is the right-side monitor. The fact that the window for your 1280x1024 monitor goes to 1920,0 suggests that it thinks it's supposed to be on the right side for some period of time, and it just never gets corrected. Because your monitors are different sizes, you could actually fix this with devilspie2 or a KWin script: you would check the sizes of the windows of class plasmashell and type desktop. Whichever one is 1280x1024, you move it to 0,0. Whichever one is 1920x1080, you move it to 1280,0. You would not be able to use KWin's window rules to fix this though, because it doesn't let you match windows on their sizes. For folks with monitors that are the same size though, they're out of luck for a workaround; the windows seem to be identical otherwise. They don't expose any differentiating information via xprop, presumably because the windows are supposed to simply do the right thing by themselves, and they're unfortunately not at the moment. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||facun...@gmail.com --- Comment #235 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 458223 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #234 from Lukas Sommer --- I have a main monitor (1920x1080) the one in the laptop). And an external monitor, connected by HDMI output via a HDMI-to-VGA adapter (1280x1024). The external monitor is on the left in the screen layout, while the main monitor is on the right in the screen layout. Result after starting the laptop, during the bug is present: lukas@lukas-laptop:~$ wmctrl -lG 0x02400017 -1 1280 01920 1080 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x0240001d -1 1920 01280 1024 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x02400045 -1 1280 1036 1920 44 lukas-laptop Plasma 0x0240005d -1 0992 1280 32 lukas-laptop Plasma 0x0507 0 1546 154 1280 695 lukas-laptop ~ : bash — Konsole And after applying the workaround described at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975#c207 : lukas@lukas-laptop:~$ wmctrl -lG 0x02400017 -1 1280 01920 1080 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x0240001d -1 001280 1024 lukas-laptop Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x02400045 -1 1280 1036 1920 44 lukas-laptop Plasma 0x0240005d -1 0992 1280 32 lukas-laptop Plasma 0x0507 0 1546 154 1280 695 lukas-laptop ~ : bash — Konsole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #233 from Allistar --- I face a separate issue caused by Plasma identifying monitors by their xrandr connector name. Plasma seems to assume that these are unique in a system but they aren't. In my case I have 6 monitors across 2 GPUs and each of them has a DVI-I-1 monitor. Because ScreenConnectors uses this name it causes issues of it starting a plasma shell on the wrong monitor. I fixed this by modifying /shell/screenpool.cpp to get it to ignore monitors by serial number. This was the only property on the QScreen instance that seemed to be unique. This solution works well, though each time a new release comes out I need to repatch the source (I run Gentoo Linux). Any solution that is looking to identifying monitors needs to make sure the identifier is consistent across reboots and is unique. I know the issue in this bug is about display name consistency, but can we please also consider the uniqueness problem in the solution? For reference there are more details of my issue here, as well as a link to the patch that fixes it. https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/issues/51 Thanks, Allistar. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #232 from gene c --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #230) > (In reply to gene c from comment #228) > ... > have to lose customizable desktops, customizable panels, desktop widgets, > desktop icons, and so on... Hiya Nate - yeh sorry I wasn't terribly clear, let me try expand a bit. In above I was simply referring to their method of identification / tagging of monitors in multi display setting and not the DE philosophy around what can be customized. I've not gone over code for either DE, so I could well be missing something - but the problems here seem at least partly related to correctly identifying and tagging monitors, which I would not have guessed would impact customization. But hey, what do I know ... :) If indeed some customization were lost, say different backgrounds on different monitors or whatever, but things otherwise work - yes that would 100% be preferable to more flexible but not working. But absent detailed knowledge of the code, I would have guessed that customizing and display tagging are largely mutually orthogonal. Anyway, thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #231 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to gene c from comment #229) > Folks - bit off-topic but a small suggestion - you may want to remove any > potentially sensitive info before pasting it here. Oops. BTW, is it possible to edit comments after posting them? Gitlab as well as Github support that in their issue tracker. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #230 from Nate Graham --- (In reply to gene c from comment #228) > Kind of obvious question: since gnome is working extremely well, and is > open source, have kde devs looked at gnome code to see what they do to > handle multiple monitors with a view to potentially follow their methodology > (with appropriate attribution etc)? It's not terribly relevant; the surrounding infrastructure and usage model is just completely different. If we followed the GNOME approach, we would have to lose customizable desktops, customizable panels, desktop widgets, desktop icons, and so on, because the GNOME approach works because it doesn't have to deal with the complexity of those Plasma features. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Markus Heß changed: What|Removed |Added CC|hess...@googlemail.com | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #229 from gene c --- Folks - bit off-topic but a small suggestion - you may want to remove any potentially sensitive info before pasting it here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #228 from gene c --- Kind of obvious question: since gnome is working extremely well, and is open source, have kde devs looked at gnome code to see what they do to handle multiple monitors with a view to potentially follow their methodology (with appropriate attribution etc)? Assuming of course, as some may have suggested, that there is an algorithmic weakness rather than a sound approach that is just buggy in plasma. But if the kde approach is flawed, then gnome may help light a path forward? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #227 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to Trent M from comment #218) > Before you all move to a different DE for the time being, can we get some > `wmctrl -lG` outputs from people being affected by this issue, along with > your monitor arrangements? I believe I have made a strong case for the > possibility that the desktop windows are being misplaced somehow, and the > black screen is the root window. If we can get confirmation or > deconfirmation on whether or not this is happening to you all, it will help > the developers working on this issue solve it. So this is kde-frameworks/plasma-5.97.0 kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.25.4 Both monitors via HDMI, the left rotated by 90 deg, running X11 on Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Picasso/Raven 2 [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] (rev c8) Currently the right screen (HDMI-A-0) is black. I can "make the other screen black" when tagging the left one (HDMI-A-1) as "primary" (what does this mean??) display. Then the left screen wents black, the button pane is relocated to the left screen, and the desktop icons are moved to the right screen) Thank you for your work! xrandr: (showing only the active resolution): Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 6000 x 3840, maximum 16384 x 16384 HDMI-A-0 connected primary 3840x2160+2160+721 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 596mm x 335mm 3840x2160 60.00*+ 60.0059.9430.0025.0024.0029.97 23.9824.00 DisplayPort-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI-A-1 connected 2160x3840+0+0 left (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 596mm x 335mm Output of wmctrl: claus@anaxagoras ~ $ wmctrl -lG 0x01600011 -1 2160 721 3840 2160 anaxagoras Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x01600031 -1 2160 2785 3840 96 anaxagoras Plasma 0x0787 9 2593 774 2954 2011 anaxagoras root@radxa-zero : root@radxa-zero: ~ — Konsole 0x07e7 7 3365 843 2160 1893 anaxagoras selectize : claus@anaxagoras:/var/www/localhost/htdocs/nextcloud-git/apps/cafevdb/3rdparty/selectize — Konsole 0x0827 4 240 163 1920 1750 anaxagoras ~ : claus@anaxagoras:~ — Konsole 0x07a0007a 0 01504 2160 2000 anaxagoras Posteingang - hims...@claus-justus-heine.de - Mozilla Thunderbird 0x09aa 7 4144 774 1856 1939 anaxagoras select-utils.js 0x090014ea 7 2160 774 1920 1939 anaxagoras email.js 0x0440002c 7 0836 2160 1555 anaxagoras CAFeVDB - Nextcloud - Mozilla Firefox 0x0440004f 0 038 2160 1712 anaxagoras alternatives to plasma kde - Google Suche - Mozilla Firefox 0x044001d9 7 3569 774 2160 1838 anaxagoras Entwicklerwerkzeuge - CAFeVDB - Nextcloud - https://anaxagoras.home.claus-justus-heine.de/nextcloud-git/index.php/apps/cafevdb/ 0x04400831 0 20 73 700 720 anaxagoras Visitenkarte von Bock, Ingrid - C@MPUS - Universität Stuttgart - Mozilla Firefox 0x0487 0 0556 2160 931 anaxagoras ~ : claus@anaxagoras:~ — Konsole 0x04a7 0 0247 2160 1335 anaxagoras logreader : claus@anaxagoras:/var/www/localhost/htdocs/nextcloud-git-next/apps/logreader — Konsole 0x0807 0 058 2160 1592 anaxagoras ~ : claus@anaxagoras:~ — Konsole 0x04400d65 9 0849 2160 1712 anaxagoras external graphics card case – Google Suche - Mozilla Firefox 0x04401033 0 0918 2160 1712 anaxagoras Confluence | Der Remote-freundliche Arbeitsbereich für dein Team - Mozilla Firefox 0x07600033 0 01113 2160 1503 anaxagoras LDAP - cn=Lenz\2C Britta,ou=People,dc=mathematik,dc=uni-stuttgart,dc=de - @mathematik - Apache Directory Studio 0x08c7 0 053 1765 1294 anaxagoras Lautstärkeregler 0x0926 0 01888 2160 1552 anaxagoras Bluetooth — Systemeinstellungen 0x0947 9 01132 2160 931 anaxagoras root@localhost : root@anaxagoras:/etc — Konsole 0x0160264f -1 002160 3840 anaxagoras Arbeitsfläche — Plasma 0x0280003a 9 2633 1008 2606 1711 anaxagoras Nextcloud-Einstellungen 0x0867 0 3000 774 2160 2011 anaxagoras ~ : claus@anaxagoras:~ — Konsole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #226 from Trent M --- That's my bad, I should have been more specific when I asked for the wmctrl output. This will only be relevant if you are running Plasma on X11. Output from other DEs won't be helpful because this bug is only relevant for Plasma, though it could offer insight to what other X11 DEs are doing with their desktop windows for multi-monitor. And wmctrl won't be helpful on Wayland. I'm surprised it works on Wayland *at all*, but I suppose it makes sense that it only outputs Xwayland windows. And something else I should have been more specific about is that `wmctrl -lG` needs to be run while the black screen situation is occurring, because I know it is sporadic for some of you. The idea is that we want to see where the desktop windows are located, and if they're in the wrong place, we want to catch that. So Greg's output is the one thus far that's relevant to the X11 case. Greg, was this created during a situation where the black screen issue was happening? Because if so, we've deconfirmed the relevance of desktop window placement: the desktop windows and plasma windows are appearing exactly where they should be: 0, 0 for one monitor and 2160, 0 for the other. However, if this was created when the black screen issue *wasn't* happening, then you have useful data in the sense that you know what the output *should* look like when things are working right. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #225 from gene c --- (In reply to H.G.Blob from comment #224) > Looks like it's X11 tool, if you are running like me on Wayland then there > would be only Xwayland windows, I suppose Ok thanks - all wayland here too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #224 from H.G.Blob --- Looks like it's X11 tool, if you are running like me on Wayland then there would be only Xwayland windows, I suppose -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #223 from gene c --- does wmctrl need to be run once or on each monitor? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #222 from H.G.Blob --- Forgot to add the output wmctrl output: wmctrl -lG 0x0183 0 3840 511 1440 1507 hssl-MACHC-WAX9 Spotify -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #221 from H.G.Blob --- [ScreenConnectors] 0=DP-4 1=DP-2-1 10=eDP-1 11=DP-6 2=DP-2-2 3=:0.0 4=DP-1 5=DP-8 6=DP-7 7=DP-2 8=DP-2-1-6 9=DP-2-1-5 Currently HDMI through Thunrderbolt(DP-6 above) is main screen horizontal and secondary screen turned 90 degrees starting from 0 0 is a DP connect screen also on Thunderbolt dock(DP-4 above). I get black screen or half desktop walpaper on the main screen when I disconnect and reconnect the Thunderbolt dock. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #220 from gene c --- (In reply to Trent M from comment #218) I tried running this in gnome in a gnome-terminal and got no output - sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #219 from Greg White --- 0x01a00011 -1 002160 3840 lively Desktop — Plasma 0x01a00017 -1 2160 02160 3840 lively Desktop — Plasma 0x01a00035 -1 002160 56 lively Plasma 0x01a00057 -1 2160 02160 56 lively Plasma 0x04c00051 0 056 2160 3784 lively weco-server – celery.py 0x0043 0 056 2160 3784 lively New Tab - Brave 0x0045 0 056 2160 3784 lively [plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click) - gwh...@kupulau.com - Kupulau Mail - Brave 0x0327 0 056 2159 3783 lively weco-server : fish — Yakuake AMDGPU on a radeon rx550. tzwo 4K monitors rotated 90 degrees. Left monitor is HDMI; right is DP. Last failure mode was the HDMI connected monitor going black and staying that way. I'm personally not convinced that HDMI is any more stable, FWIW. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #218 from Trent M --- Before you all move to a different DE for the time being, can we get some `wmctrl -lG` outputs from people being affected by this issue, along with your monitor arrangements? I believe I have made a strong case for the possibility that the desktop windows are being misplaced somehow, and the black screen is the root window. If we can get confirmation or deconfirmation on whether or not this is happening to you all, it will help the developers working on this issue solve it. Ctrl+Alt+T should be the default shortcut to open a new Konsole window, if you find yourself unable to open a terminal any other way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #217 from Nate Graham --- Plasma fully supports multiple screens, it's just that this design error causes that support to be buggy for certain combinations of screens, graphics cards, connection methods, kernels, physical positioning, whether you're using Wayland or X11, and so on. The number of variables that go into it is quite enormous. This is why it works perfectly for some people, and terribly for others. It's true that there was a significant regression surrounding multi-monitor support earlier this year, but it was a result of us doubling down on the existing approach and trying our best to make it work more robustly. That it has the opposite effect cemented our resolve to replace the current buggy screen connector ID based system to something more reliable. It's being planned out now and I do have high hopes for it to be shipped with Plasma 5.26. If the status quo is so bad for you that you have to use another DE in the meantime, that's understandable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #216 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #204) > I suspect all the issues here are 99% the same as Bug 450068, which indeed > hits DisplayPort users harder than HDMI users, since it seems like the > screen connector IDs are much more volatile for DisplayPort monitors, > especially when used with DisplayPort docks. > > I asked people to post their ScreenConnectors data to test this theory, and > so far the data people have reported is tending to confirm it. > > The good news is that Plasma developers have acknowledged the fragility of > the current approach of mapping desktops and panels to screen connector IDs > and are working ona fundamentally different data source, which should > automatically solve most of the bugs. It's currently targeted for Plasma > 5.26, but could end up pushed to 5.27. So this means that the plasma until then will not support multi-monitor configurations? Multi-monitor support got broken since approximately start of this year (that _this_ bug started in 2015 is just fake). This is very unfortunate. At this point it is also for me probably time to say goodbye to kde. No flames intended, of course, I known that this is spare-time work mostly. So if this issue cannot be solved earlier then so be it. Still I will see if I use something else in the meantime. Thanks to the kde/plasma developers for all their effort! I probably check back later. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #215 from Nate Graham --- The issue is more common with DisplayPort monitors because DisplayPort connector IDs are extremely volatile, more so than HDMI connector IDs. But HDMI connector IDs aren't immune to it, so the issues happen there too, just less frequently. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #214 from flan_suse --- (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #203) > Can anyone confirm they can still reproduce this bug without any DP ports > connected? I only have HDMI port connected and currently I can't reproduce > black screen on both X11 and Wayland. HDMI here. Intel Iris Xe video. Reproducible on X11. It's not consistent, however. Sometimes there are no issues, and randomly the black screen bug will occur. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #213 from naumenko.dmit...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Greg White from comment #211) > FWIW, on my machine, I'd say this bug has significantly regressed. I used > to only very rarely have black screen issues. Now they are common. It is > very disappointing that this bug has been treated as such a low-priority > problem - when it is quite remarkably bad. I've been using KDE for almost > 20 years but right now this is right on the edge of driving me to Gnome as > well. I'm in this boat as well. I love KDE and have been affected by this issue for several months. It makes me sad that this is potentially being kicked down the road to 2023. Can this bug receive some attention soon? If not, I also will have to ditch KDE. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #212 from a --- (In reply to Greg White from comment #211) > FWIW, on my machine, I'd say this bug has significantly regressed. I used > to only very rarely have black screen issues. Now they are common. It is > very disappointing that this bug has been treated as such a low-priority > problem - when it is quite remarkably bad. I've been using KDE for almost > 20 years but right now this is right on the edge of driving me to Gnome as > well. Personally I had multiple kind of black screen issues, along with other kind of bug who were as bothering. Some had been corrected, some come sometimes. But this one, it's pretty new, less than a week, and it's the worst black screen kind. It literally paralyze me and drive me crazy. WayLand is not something easy to manipulate -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #211 from Greg White --- FWIW, on my machine, I'd say this bug has significantly regressed. I used to only very rarely have black screen issues. Now they are common. It is very disappointing that this bug has been treated as such a low-priority problem - when it is quite remarkably bad. I've been using KDE for almost 20 years but right now this is right on the edge of driving me to Gnome as well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #210 from a --- (In reply to gene c from comment #209) > I found a work around that works fine - i installed gnome (yes I know) and > if kde every gets to a usable state can always use gdm to launch plasma. gdm > is native wayland and seems more stable than sddm which also helps. > > not ideal for sure but based on @nate's indicated time frames, sounds like > this won't be fixed until 2023, which is a little too long for me. > I'll keep an eye out but for now plasma is just not usable. It's foolish to think that already worked fine till now. They should regress the stable version to one before that didn't had this bug. It shouldn't be considered stable to have such problem Anyway, people often asked me why I've installed such ton of WM. And it's exactly for that, to switch in case something went wrong. So yeah, I use GDE when I can't deal anymore with KDE. About display manager, I already use GDM since long. On this computer I even never used SDDM I think. Thanks for the tip, even if it's sad -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #209 from gene c --- I found a work around that works fine - i installed gnome (yes I know) and if kde every gets to a usable state can always use gdm to launch plasma. gdm is native wayland and seems more stable than sddm which also helps. not ideal for sure but based on @nate's indicated time frames, sounds like this won't be fixed until 2023, which is a little too long for me. I'll keep an eye out but for now plasma is just not usable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #208 from a --- (In reply to Lukas Sommer from comment #207) > A workaround that works for me is: > > 1.) Go to the system settings, screen/display configuration > > 2.) In the diagram which shows the relative position of your two screens, > move slightly the position of the screen that does not work correctly. > > 3.) Click on "Apply" > > 4.) In the following dialogue, you are asked if you want to save the new > settings. Do NOT save them. > > Now, the problem is solved (until the next restart). How to perform step one on this situation? Yeah I was used to do that to correct minor graphic glitches without losing my perfect configuration. But now the problem is bigger than that and I just can't open apps. Even when I manage to open one, it's out of reach, impossible to interact with it or retreive it in screen. It's just displayed in the switch app menu and thats all. So this trick will not save me this time -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #207 from Lukas Sommer --- A workaround that works for me is: 1.) Go to the system settings, screen/display configuration 2.) In the diagram which shows the relative position of your two screens, move slightly the position of the screen that does not work correctly. 3.) Click on "Apply" 4.) In the following dialogue, you are asked if you want to save the new settings. Do NOT save them. Now, the problem is solved (until the next restart). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 pingo-po...@hotmail.fr changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pingo-po...@hotmail.fr --- Comment #206 from pingo-po...@hotmail.fr --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #204) > I suspect all the issues here are 99% the same as Bug 450068, which indeed > hits DisplayPort users harder than HDMI users, since it seems like the > screen connector IDs are much more volatile for DisplayPort monitors, > especially when used with DisplayPort docks. > > I asked people to post their ScreenConnectors data to test this theory, and > so far the data people have reported is tending to confirm it. > > The good news is that Plasma developers have acknowledged the fragility of > the current approach of mapping desktops and panels to screen connector IDs > and are working ona fundamentally different data source, which should > automatically solve most of the bugs. It's currently targeted for Plasma > 5.26, but could end up pushed to 5.27. Yeah okay but is there a workaround currently? Because just can't work. Cannot open anything, kRunner doesn't open anything, no taskbar, no right click. Switching to one screen doesn't always make the job, sometimes it just freeze everything -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDSINFO |RESOLVED Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |DUPLICATE --- Comment #205 from Nate Graham --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 450068 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #204 from Nate Graham --- I suspect all the issues here are 99% the same as Bug 450068, which indeed hits DisplayPort users harder than HDMI users, since it seems like the screen connector IDs are much more volatile for DisplayPort monitors, especially when used with DisplayPort docks. I asked people to post their ScreenConnectors data to test this theory, and so far the data people have reported is tending to confirm it. The good news is that Plasma developers have acknowledged the fragility of the current approach of mapping desktops and panels to screen connector IDs and are working ona fundamentally different data source, which should automatically solve most of the bugs. It's currently targeted for Plasma 5.26, but could end up pushed to 5.27. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Fushan Wen changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO Status|CONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO --- Comment #203 from Fushan Wen --- Can anyone confirm they can still reproduce this bug without any DP ports connected? I only have HDMI port connected and currently I can't reproduce black screen on both X11 and Wayland. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 gene c changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.kde.org/show_b ||ug.cgi?id=450068 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Fushan Wen changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.kde.org/show_b ||ug.cgi?id=450443 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #202 from gene c --- Indeed it is quite disheartening that a bug of this obviously very high importance sees no feedback. Neither this or 450068 have been assigned - so that means no-one is working on it. Really hate to switch back to gnome but best I can tell at least multi monitor set up works there. @Nate - can you please provide a time frame for when this awful bug might be (a) worked on and (b) fixed? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #201 from mikro --- (In reply to mikro from comment #124) > I am on Fedora 35 with KDE 5.24.2 > I have two monitors, connected to the same Graphic adapter (Radeon RX 580) > and they are utilizing one HDMI and one Display Port connection. > I disconnect (power off) my primary monitor and the other one remains as it > was. > When I power on again my primary monitor, all my monitors are as before > except: > > - No wallpapers, only black background on both but at some point the > wallpaper on the primary monitor will be visible again > - My secondary monitor (the one that I didn't power off) does not accept > right clicks on the desktop surface > - My primary monitor accepts right clicks on the desktop surface and I can > open the "Configure Desktop and Wallpaper" window. But when I do that, opens > two (2) to four (4) Configure Desktop and Wallpaper windows, one above the > other. While these are opened I can see for a split second the wallpaper of > my primary monitor disappearing and reappearing. > > One way to restore everything, as they were is: > > Open the Display settings, disable and then enable again, the secondary > monitor. > Then, everything will be fine, but while I can now open the "Configure > Desktop and Wallaper" window on my secondary monitor without any issue, if I > try to open it on my primary monitor, immediately I am back to as if I had > disconnected the primary monitor situation, which means: > > - No wallpapers, only black background on both but at some point the > wallpaper on the primary monitor will be visible again > - My secondary monitor (the one that I didn't power off) does not accept > right clicks on the desktop surface > - My primary monitor accepts right clicks on the desktop surface and I can > open the "Configure Desktop and Wallpaper" window. But when I do that, opens > two (2) to four (4) Configure Desktop and Wallpaper windows, one above the > other. While these are opened I can see for a split second the wallpaper of > my primary monitor disappearing and reappearing. > > The only real solution is to log off and log on again to my Desktop The bug is still here. I have upgraded my system to Fedora 36: KDE plasma version 5.25.4 KDE Framework: 5.96.0 QT version: 5.15.5 and I am using exclusively Wayland. The manifestation is more or less similar with my original post but not exactly the same. I am not going to provide an exact description because I don't really see any effort from the KDE team to address this bug in the first place. In my experience, the multi monitor plasma issues is a long standing problem. At some point someone from KDE developer team must be tasked to resolve it and I hope that day will come soon enough! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #200 from roworu --- Today faced same issue on laptop, without any additional monitors ever connected. ~/.config/plasmashellrc doesn't contain [ScreenConnectors] section. Arch linux , nvidia 515.65.01-2 , plasma-desktop 5.25.4-1 , xorg-server 21.1.4-1 Please tell if there is any information I could provide to help investigation. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #199 from gene c --- If I use kcm to split the displays into 2 (left and right) plasmashell the plasmashellrc doesn't change - and it crashes shortly after hitting apply and backgrounds go black and its back in mirror mode again. Both displays are labelled the same in the settings as mentioned above which seems odd obviously. On other hand my laptop with a single USB (DP) monitor works fine - of course these are always distinguishable so perhaps makes sense. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #198 from Allistar --- I know there's a bug in the way ScreenConnectors works because of how the screens are identified. Screen names aren't unique as they're identified by xrandr output name. My ScreenConnectors looks like this: [ScreenConnectors] 0=DVI-I-1 1=HDMI-0 2=HDMI-1 3=DVI-D-0 But my system has two different displays both called DVI-I-1. This is because I have 6 displays across 2 GPUs. In my case I only want plasma to run on the 1st GPU (as xscreen 0), but when DVI-I-1 on the second GPU (on xscreen 1) connects Plasma sees this and runs a shell on that one. This prevents it from running a shell on the screen0 one. ScreenConnectors should include either a GPU identifier or xscreen number to fix this issue. I have fixed this myself with a patch that adds a new "IgnoredScreens" section to plasmashellrc and I get plasma to ignore any monitor that has a serial number that's in that list. This is slightly annoying because each time a new version of plasma-workspace comes out I have to redo my patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #197 from gene c --- 2 x identical monitors both LG 4k - one connected via USB-C the second via HDMI. [ScreenConnectors] 0= 1=DP-2 2=:0.0 The behavior after 5.25.4 - now after screen lock is woken up - both monitors show same info (mirror mode) - after fiddling (a lot) can convince it back to 2 monitors - then it happens again. The above is the state reflecting mirror version. If its helpful I can try get dual monitors working again and then resend if its any different. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #196 from Nate Graham --- People who are affected: can you open your ~/.config/plasmashellrc file and paste everything under [ScreenConnectors]? I'm starting to suspect that basically all of these issues are caused by Bug 450068. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #195 from Trent M --- Hi there. I actually have managed to fix my version of the issue, and even though it is different from what the rest of you are experiencing, what I discovered may provide a hint for fixing it, so I thought I would stop by and share my findings in hope that they will be helpful, at least for the Xorg case. I had an idea that maybe the window that represents the Plasma desktop had somehow managed to get itself stuck on a specific workspace, and in order to confirm my findings, I used `xwininfo` instead of `xprop` on the black screen and received this output: ``` xwininfo: Window id: 0x979 (the root window) (has no name) Absolute upper-left X: 0 Absolute upper-left Y: 0 Relative upper-left X: 0 Relative upper-left Y: 0 Width: 1920 Height: 2160 Depth: 24 Visual: 0x21 Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x20 (installed) Bit Gravity State: ForgetGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: no Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: no Corners: +0+0 -0+0 -0-0 +0-0 -geometry 1920x2160+0+0 ``` That black screen is actually the root window! Plasma's desktop has a different output: ``` xwininfo: Window id: 0x2400013 "Desktop — Plasma" Absolute upper-left X: 0 Absolute upper-left Y: 1080 Relative upper-left X: 0 Relative upper-left Y: 0 Width: 1920 Height: 1080 Depth: 32 Visual: 0x28a Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x2400012 (not installed) Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: no Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: no Corners: +0+1080 -0+1080 -0-0 +0-0 -geometry 1920x1080+0-0 ``` And then, I decided to run `xprop` again, but this time, on the desktop. ``` _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 1 WM_STATE(WM_STATE): window state: Normal icon window: 0x0 _NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 43952 _KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 44930 _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW _KDE_NET_WM_DESKTOP_FILE(UTF8_STRING) = "org.kde.plasmashell" XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP WM_NAME(STRING) = "Desktop" _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Desktop — Plasma" _MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0x1, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP _XEMBED_INFO(_XEMBED_INFO) = 0x0, 0x1 WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2400015 WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS): Client accepts input or input focus: True window id # of group leader: 0x2400015 WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "Stealth" _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2116 _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 37748756 WM_CLASS(STRING) = "plasmashell", "plasmashell" WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): user specified location: 0, 1080 user specified size: 1920 by 1080 window gravity: Static ``` The second line is the one most of interest: the desktop is assigned to a specific virtual desktop. That's not supposed to happen! I created a KWin rule that takes windows of class plasmashell and type desktop, and forces them to be visible on all desktops. That caused my version of this issue to be resolved! So what I can state with almost certainty is that the black window that people can't interact with is the root window. The desktop is supposed to cover up that window while being beneath everything else, and for some reason, that is not happening. It is possible that the state of the window representing the Plasma desktop is being mangled in such a way that the window manager is representing it correctly according to its internal state, but incorrectly according to user expectations. I have a multi monitor setup as well. The desktop is represented by a different window on each monitor; `xwininfo` shows different ids for clicking the desktop on each one. And `wmctrl` actually shows the same thing, as shown here. I threw in the G switch in order to get the geometry information; both position and size. ``` ❯ wmctrl -lG 0x04ac 0 40 1080 1880 1080 Stealth 353975 – Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click) — Mozilla Firefox 0x05a3 -1 001920 1080 Stealth Spotify 0x03400014 0 40 1080 1880 1080 Stealth Inbox (30 unread) — Evolution 0x07e3 -1 001920 1080 Stealth Ferdium - Discord - Discord 0x06a2 0 40 1080 1880 1080 Stealth Joplin 0x04200013 -1 01080 1920 1080 Stealth Desktop — Plasma 0x04200019 -1 001920 1080 Stealth Desktop — Plasma 0x04200035 -1 01080 40 1080 Stealth Plasma 0x09600013 1 842 1117 1078 1043 Stealth
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Devon Hollowood changed: What|Removed |Added CC||devonhollow...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Zamundaaa changed: What|Removed |Added CC||aappdde...@gmail.com --- Comment #194 from Zamundaaa --- *** Bug 353722 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
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[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|aleix...@kde.org|plasma-b...@kde.org Keywords|multiscreen, triaged| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
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[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Alexey Chernyak changed: What|Removed |Added CC||alexey_...@chernyak.id.au --- Comment #193 from Alexey Chernyak --- Bug still present in X11 Plasma 5.25.3. The bug is triggered depending 3 things: 1. Which monitor is set as the X Primary Display for X Screen (not sure if Wayland has a similar concept) 2. Which monitor wakes up first from sleep 3. Which monitor is configured to have Plasma Taskbar. Reproducible: Always Steps to reproduce: 1. Get 2 different monitor models that have different sleep/wakeup latency - in my case both are DisplayPort with different resolutions. My understanding is that DisplayPort sleep/wakeup is equivalent to disconnectintg/reconnecting cable. 2. Set the faster waking monitor as the Primary Display for X Screen - in my case I can do this with a tick-box in NVIDIA Settings application. 3. Place Plasma Taskbar onto the non-Primary monitor. 4. Leave system idle until both monitors go to sleep - in my case system itself doesn't sleep, only monitors and no screen locking. 5. Wake monitors up. Actual Results: Monitors wake up with Plasma missing - no taskbar, no desktop icons, no wallpaper, black screen, right click not working. Windows can be dragged between monitors. Can Alt-Tab between windows. No DrKonqi crash reports. During first wakeup cycle KDE screens configuration seems to get reconfigured (depending on monitor wake-up order), and subsequent sleep/wake cycles could have different results and screen configuration (though taskbar always missing) depending on each pre-sleep state. Expected Results: Plasmashell not to disappear. Workaround Fix: Make the slower waking monitor as the Primary Display for the X Screen (in NVIDIA Settings tool), and have Plasma Taskbar residing on the faster waking screen. With this configuration every sleep/wakeup cycle works without any issues. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sommer...@gmail.com --- Comment #192 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 456711 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Samuel García changed: What|Removed |Added CC||k...@samueldgv.com --- Comment #191 from Samuel García --- Hello, just chiming in. I am also experiencing this issue after switching to a dual monitor layout, just as mikro and others reported. This is only happening on Wayland, and the only relevant log messages I see are several these ones, repeated over time, which I do not think are very relevant: Jul 10 20:57:14 mostro plasmashell[27061]: [2022-07-10 20:57:14.840] [27081] (device_info_linux.cc:45): NumberOfDevices Jul 10 20:57:17 mostro plasmashell[27061]: [2022-07-10 20:57:17.842] [27081] (device_info_linux.cc:45): NumberOfDevices Jul 10 20:57:20 mostro plasmashell[27061]: [2022-07-10 20:57:20.845] [27081] (device_info_linux.cc:45): NumberOfDevices Jul 10 20:57:23 mostro plasmashell[5843]: kf.plasma.quick: Couldn't create KWindowShadow for ToolTipDialog(0x5574fabb33e0) Jul 10 20:57:23 mostro plasmashell[5843]: kf.plasma.quick: Couldn't create KWindowShadow for ToolTipDialog(0x5574fabb33e0) Jul 10 20:57:23 mostro plasmashell[5843]: kf.plasma.quick: Couldn't create KWindowShadow for ToolTipDialog(0x5574fabb33e0) Jul 10 20:57:23 mostro plasmashell[27061]: [2022-07-10 20:57:23.848] [27081] (device_info_linux.cc:45): NumberOfDevices I personally don't have scaling enabled, and the X.org session works perfectly, only the Wayland one has these problems. Also, the workarounds mentioned above about deleting old configuration files didn't help at all. My plasma version is 5.25.2. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
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[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Fushan Wen changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDSINFO |CONFIRMED Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |--- --- Comment #190 from Fushan Wen --- (In reply to Claus-Justus Heine from comment #189) > (In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #188) > > Dear Bug Submitter, > > > > This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least > > 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as > > possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug > > tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with > > no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME > > due to lack of needed information. > > > > For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the > > wiki located here: > > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging > > > > If you have already provided the requested information, please > > mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is > > ready to be confirmed. > > > > Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! > > The bug is still ** not ** solved in 5.25.2. As for "needsinfo", would do > you need? The last question was in comment #181 and the answer is "no". Also > the patch from #181 has been incorporated into 5.25.2, AFAIK. So still after > sleep or after manually switching monitors off (e.g. to save energy): > > - occasionally on monitor goes black with unresponsive background > - windows are wildly relocated to other screens and resized (most often made > very small) > - this strange and unintuitive "primary screen" switch in the system > settings moves the "blackness" to the other screen. If the primary screen is > black then making the other screen "primary" (what ever this means) recovers > the responsive background on one screen and make the new "primary" screen > black. Hey, it's a bot message. You can change the bug status to confirmed to dismiss it. Do you have Qt scaling enabled? If not it's a new bug then. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #189 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to Bug Janitor Service from comment #188) > Dear Bug Submitter, > > This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least > 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as > possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug > tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with > no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME > due to lack of needed information. > > For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the > wiki located here: > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging > > If you have already provided the requested information, please > mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is > ready to be confirmed. > > Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! The bug is still ** not ** solved in 5.25.2. As for "needsinfo", would do you need? The last question was in comment #181 and the answer is "no". Also the patch from #181 has been incorporated into 5.25.2, AFAIK. So still after sleep or after manually switching monitors off (e.g. to save energy): - occasionally on monitor goes black with unresponsive background - windows are wildly relocated to other screens and resized (most often made very small) - this strange and unintuitive "primary screen" switch in the system settings moves the "blackness" to the other screen. If the primary screen is black then making the other screen "primary" (what ever this means) recovers the responsive background on one screen and make the new "primary" screen black. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #188 from Bug Janitor Service --- Dear Bug Submitter, This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information. For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the wiki located here: https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging If you have already provided the requested information, please mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is ready to be confirmed. Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #187 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to Claus-Justus Heine from comment #184) > (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #181) > > Could any people test > > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/1781 fixes > > your issue? Thanks in advance. > > I fear not, but I need to do more testing. I have installed the > plasma-workspace hack. Did not yet test the Qt hack yet. Ok, it seems that the plasma-workspace hack seems to improve things, but the qt-hack doesn't. Still this is just an observation from one time merging the Qt-Hack, and another time merging the Plasma-hack. ATM, it seems that the plasma-hack - after a while, say 5 seconds - enable the Plasma-thing to "recover". At least it seems that I _may_ have (sometimes???) usable screens on each of my two monitors after either manually switching them off or waiting for the power save. Still: there are many annoying things: windows are relocated to the other monitor, their size changes wildly. For that "primary display" feature: I do not understand: the control panel is always located on the "non-primary" monitor. Desktop icons are always located on the "primary" monitor. What is the reasoning behind? What exactly is meant by "primary monitor"? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #186 from H.G.Blob --- I feel like we are perhaps talking about 2 different issues here: * one for Wayland * one for Xorg The fix present in comment #181 seems to appply to Xorg only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #185 from H.G.Blob --- I feel like we are perhaps talking about 2 different issues here: * one for Wayland * one for Xorg The fix present in comment comment #181 seems to appply to Xorg only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #184 from Claus-Justus Heine --- (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #181) > Could any people test > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/1781 fixes > your issue? Thanks in advance. I fear not, but I need to do more testing. I have installed the plasma-workspace hack. Did not yet test the Qt hack yet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #183 from Trent M --- Created attachment 149682 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=149682=edit xprop output of the zombie desktop / black window Here's that xprop output. Sorry, I forgot to mention a couple things. My starting workspace is number #2; I use wmctrl to move over in a startup script that gets executed in autostart. But because of this, the zombie workspaces for me are actually 1, 3, and 4. And a `plasmashell --replace` does make it go away until the next boot. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Trent M changed: What|Removed |Added CC||twilightinz...@gmail.com --- Comment #182 from Trent M --- Hi there, I'm experiencing this as well, but it's a subtle variation on what others have reported. For me, this happens regardless of whether or not I have any external displays, and it occurs on *all* displays. It's similar to the zombie desktop reported by Agron. I have a video of it taking place here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4dmn-F0p98 I'll also attach the xprop output shown in that video, in case it's relevant. I was hoping it'd be fixed in Plasma 5.25, but I just got the upgrade in Neon (great release, BTW; congrats!) and it's still occurring. Wayland does not work on this computer, so I can't use Wayland to get around it. (In reply to Fushan Wen from comment #181) > Could any people test > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/1781 fixes > your issue? Thanks in advance. I am interested in testing this, but I am not sure how I would go about doing so in Neon. Patching system packages has always made me feel uneasy as a general thing, even having been on Linux for a very long time. :x However, I do have a BTRFS subvolume structure that makes it very low-risk to go absolutely ham on the system if I need to. Should I visit a specific Matrix channel for guidance on this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Fushan Wen changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO Status|CONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO --- Comment #181 from Fushan Wen --- Could any people test https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/1781 fixes your issue? Thanks in advance. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
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[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mamorue...@gmail.com --- Comment #180 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 454877 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #179 from Miguel Guthridge --- I think I managed to reproduce this when tweaking display settings (not just connecting the monitor). I have two external monitors (1920x1080) and a laptop screen (1920x1200). Usually when the external displays are connected I set the laptop display to be disabled. I decided to set my laptop to be a duplicate of the left-most external display and noticed that when I did this, the right-most display lost its settings as per the description of the bug. Perhaps this could be used to help figure out what's going on with it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #178 from Fushan Wen --- (In reply to lebr0nk from comment #177) > Hi I'm using the following Neon distro: > ~$ lsb_release -a > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Neon > Description:KDE neon User - 5.24 > Release:20.04 > Codename: focal > > Experiencing the same issues. After reboot , logging into x11 will give the > black background and no right-click menu. logging out and selecting Wayland > , then logging back in shows desktop and popup from Neon that Wayland is not > supported. Logging back out, switching back to X11 seems to "fix" the issue > after logging back in. > > Let me know if any other details will help to fix. But honestly a fix should > be pushed via global update. Do you have Plasma HiDPI enabled? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 lebr0nk changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bunker_...@outlook.com --- Comment #177 from lebr0nk --- Hi I'm using the following Neon distro: ~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Neon Description:KDE neon User - 5.24 Release:20.04 Codename: focal Experiencing the same issues. After reboot , logging into x11 will give the black background and no right-click menu. logging out and selecting Wayland , then logging back in shows desktop and popup from Neon that Wayland is not supported. Logging back out, switching back to X11 seems to "fix" the issue after logging back in. Let me know if any other details will help to fix. But honestly a fix should be pushed via global update. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||qydwhotm...@gmail.com --- Comment #176 from Nate Graham --- CCing Fushan who may know what that means. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #175 from Jacek Wieczorek --- I've been using Plasma 5.25.80 (package version 5.24.5.r11810.g1e498d074-1) from Manjaro's kde-unstable repository for a couple of days now. The behavior is still quite similar. After my screens wake up, the lock screen is visible only on one monitor, wallpapers are broken, desktop icons and panels are unresponsive and some applications appear on wrong screens. However, after a couple of minutes plasmashell is able to recover automatically --- correct wallpapers appear and panels start working. I don't see any crashes/coredumps in journalctl, but this assertion seems to be relevant: plasmashell[1137]: ASSERT: "m_desktopViewForScreen.isEmpty()" in file /build/plasma-workspace/src/plasma-workspace/shell/shellcorona.cpp, line 795 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #174 from Allistar --- I'm running Gentoo and after upgrading plasma from 5.24.4 to 5.24.5 I'm facing the same issue as before: I run two xscreens and I only want plasma to run on xscreen0. It now tries to run on both xscreens and does so incorrectly: xscreen0 has 4 displays and xscreen1 has 2. Now it only runs on two of the screen0 displays and on the 2 screen1 displays. How do I tell plasma to leave xscreen1 alone? I.e. I only want it to run on xscreen0. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 353975] Black screen on second display (no wallpaper, can't get a context menu on right-click)
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353975 --- Comment #173 from gene c --- I can regularly crash plasmashell by simply editing (1 of the 2) panel and adding (or trying to add) applications from kmenu - not convinced this wasn't commonplace in released version though. I did this as after updating to 5.24.90 all customized panel settings were lost. i gave up after multiple tries, added default panel and use quick launcher now - which at least don't crash and vanish :) This is beta and bugs are expected. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
