[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
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[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #34 from Nick Stefanov --- It's not a nagging. Here we have an intentional option damage and instead of revise your dev's deeds you are blaming the users in nagging? There was not a single problem with the Autostart page at first place. Your dev came here and created the problem by removing a very useful option without a single reason. All we want is the removed option back. In other words, the guilty dev to repair the damege he did. Nothing more. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #33 from Nate Graham --- Nick, please read https://jacobtomlinson.dev/posts/2022/dont-be-that-open-source-user-dont-be-me. TL;DR: comments like these are not effective. They *reduce* developers' motivation to work on the feature request. If you want to see this get done and you can't contribute with code or money, please at least avoid leaving entitled nagging comments. All such future comments will be marked as spam and hidden by default, so you might as well not leave them in the first place. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #32 from Nick Stefanov --- It's not a spam. A very useful option was removed without a single reason and we want it back. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 David Edmundson changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|NOR |VLO Severity|normal |wishlist CC||k...@davidedmundson.co.uk --- Comment #31 from David Edmundson --- Please don't spam. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #30 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.25.2 - still nothing and we have to live in '90s. Every other DE has this option. We also have it once but some clever brain has decided to remove it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #29 from Nick Stefanov --- 5.25 - the problem is still here. Nobody cares? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
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[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #28 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.24.5 - the problem is still here. Please upgrade this nasty downgrade. Why deliberately make KDE usless? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
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[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #27 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.24.3 - the problem is still here. Please give this problem some attention. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #26 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.24.2 - the problem is still here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #25 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.24.1 - the problem is still here. Please fix it. And add a delay start option like every other DE. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #24 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.24 - the problem is still here. Thanks to this "improvement" now Plasma have the weirdest and the most useless autostart tool. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #23 from Colin Griffith --- (In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #21) > The MR is unrelated to this bug report. This report is about disabling > entries as opposed to removing them, the MR is about controlling the > system-wide autostart I think you've misunderstood something fundamental about both bugs. The way that system-level autostarts are controlled, is by copying them into the user-specific autostart folder and then setting them to disabled. In other words, for one to be implemented, you have to implement both. Or rather, if you fix *this* bug, both bugs become fixed automatically. That's why so many people were upset about this change, because it used to be possible to control system-level autostart entries with the GUI (once they're copied over to the user's home directory), but that is no longer possible because of your change. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
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[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #22 from Nicolas Fella --- The correct bug for that MR is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428094 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #21 from Nicolas Fella --- The MR is unrelated to this bug report. This report is about disabling entries as opposed to removing them, the MR is about controlling the system-wide autostart -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #20 from Nate Graham --- The open merge request needs for the submitter to continue work on it. At this point is seems like there is a path forward, and the work just needs to be completed. I've pinged the submitter. Hopefully they can continue the work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #19 from Colin Griffith --- (In reply to Nick Stefanov from comment #18) > Plasma 5.21.3 - still no option to enable/disable startup entries. Why you > broke it when it used to work fine? Now it's ugly and inconvenient. Is this > the purpose? To make Plasma inconvenient? After this stupid change there's no > other DE with such awkward start up settings at all. Kudos to the dead head > dev who made it for the Golden Raspberry award. I don't think it's a good idea to be hostile toward the developer responsible, especially since they're also the one assigned to fix this bug. Don't give them more reasons to want to avoid working on it or having anything to do with it. That said, I know that the dev made this choice deliberately, and I'm not sure why they're also assigned to change it. That's a conflict of interest (albeit a relatively minor one) - they might just want the change to persist, even though everyone else doesn't want it to persist, so all they have to do to get their way is to literally do nothing. Perhaps someone else should be assigned to fix this bug? (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #6) > User feedback has spoken lol. IIRC even macOS has the ability to both disable > and delete autostart entries. :) Since [Xuetian Weng's merge request][mr] would indirectly fix this, maybe have him assigned to this bug report. [mr]: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/253 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #18 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.21.3 - still no option to enable/disable startup entries. Why you broke it when it used to work fine? Now it's ugly and inconvenient. Is this the purpose? To make Plasma inconvenient? After this stupid change there's no other DE with such awkward start up settings at all. Kudos to the dead head dev who made it for the Golden Raspberry award. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #17 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.23 - there's still no option to enable/disable a startup entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #16 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.22.3 - there's no option to enable/disable a startup entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #15 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.22 - still no option to enable/disable a startup entry. It's not smart to remove options that previously have been there. It's a downgrade. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #14 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.21 - no option to enable/disable a startup entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #13 from Nick Stefanov --- Now there's no need to hover for buttons are always there but there is no option to enable/disable a startup entry. Please readd it. Thank you :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #12 from Nick Stefanov --- Totally agreed! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #11 from Colin Griffith --- This might be considered another bug, but another issue with this redesign is that the 'remove' button only appears when you hover the mouse over it. So when you're removing a bunch of them at once, you can't keep your mouse still and keep clicking, as the 'hover' event doesn't seem to fire until you've clicked once or jitter the mouse a bit. I don't see any reason for the buttons to hide themselves. It's not friendly for touch screens, as you don't know where to touch. It's not friendly for mice, as you don't know where to hover your mouse until you try to. When you do hover over an entry, it looks weird for only one of them to have a button and the rest not to. The fact that they highlight when you hover, and then change color when you click, makes it seem like SOMEthing should happen when you click... But nothing does. Clicking an entry does not result in any action being performed. You can't even select them, as they're not selectable items. It might be my headache talking (not related to this; I've had this headache for a while), or I might just be resistant to change. I'm sorry if I sound overly harsh, I really don't mean to. I just don't understand the purpose behind the redesign, and every time I look at any of it to see if there's a tiny bit of, "Oh, well at least that's nicer than before," I just find more things I disagree with (or perhaps am just not used to? Like I say, I maybe the headache is talking). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 Colin Griffith changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tyna...@gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Colin Griffith --- There's another feature that is missing as a result of this feature missing: disabling a startup service on a per-user basis instead of on a system-wide basis. In the past, I have always copied all the entries in /etc/xdg/autostart/ to ~/.config/autostart/, so that I could override whether they were enabled or disabled - as setting whether they were enabled/disabled in the file stored in the home directory overrode the file in /etc/. This let me enable/disable autostart entries without affecting global system files. IF ANYTHING, I would have opted for this configuration page to detect system autostart entries, and disabling them would make a copy in the user's ~/.config/autostart directory with it disabled. This would be more ideal than having to copy the files myself.. And bringing back the previous functionality would AT LEAST make it easier than Editing The Files Myself. I know that Nicolas Fella worked hard on this, and made the change intentionally. But when even GNOME and MacOS (supposedly, according to others in here) has a feature and you're removing it from KDE of all places, you need to rethink your objectives for a user interface. I would never expect this type of feature removal to happen in KDE. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 Nicolas Fella changed: What|Removed |Added CC||model...@outlook.com.au --- Comment #9 from Nicolas Fella --- *** Bug 430522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #8 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.20.4 - still this ugly implementation with no enable/disable option. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 --- Comment #7 from Nick Stefanov --- And GNOME :D -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[systemsettings] [Bug 427855] There's no option to enable/disable startup elements
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427855 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Product|plasmashell |systemsettings Assignee|k...@davidedmundson.co.uk|nicolas.fe...@gmx.de Target Milestone|1.0 |--- Component|general |kcm_autostart -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
