Re: Is there interest in participating in Google Code-in this year?
Well so I can't do much in that area I feel - unless its open to design tasks.
If that is the case ("design tasks" is ok), count me in.
On Thursday, 12 October 2017 23.15.27 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> Hello folks, when I've written about GCi before this, I got few to no
> replies. My feeling is that previous enthusiastic mentors are without
> the energy and time to participate this year.
>
> Org applications are open, but unless I hear a swell of enthusiasm
> here, I'm inclined to not apply.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Valorie, for Student Programs admin team
Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)
Like Albert I mostly want to weigh in that I support the mission draft - personally I consider the existance of a mission draft the central core success. It's one thing to be in opposition to parts of an existing mission - a completely different one when you may or may not be in opposition with the community. One of them means a debate can happend - the other just means deadlock so a mission in itself is a success. As a sidenote to Agustin I consider the user story angle relevant, if not critical to a mission statement. Cut out the user from the equation and the whole idea of even providing a UI becomes redundant. On Sunday, 11 June 2017 18.02.56 CEST Albert Vaca wrote: > Thanks for putting this together! Some (late and) minor thoughts on wording: > > I like that we state we want to "integrate well with other Free products to > complete the experience". I would explicitly mention "other Free *software* > and products", to make clear that we don't want to be a closed ecosystem > where KDE software only integrates with other KDE software. > > I also think that the statement "maintains a diverse and inclusive > community" is fundamental in a truly open online community nowadays. I > would go further and say "a diverse, inclusive *and safe* community". > > Apart from that, I agree with every point in the strategy and I'm happy we > have decided to write it down and make it public. > > Albert > > On May 30, 2017 11:55 AM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > Hi Agustin, > > > > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:07:37 PM CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > > > thanks for driving this discussion. It is a needed one. Here are my > > > early comments: > > > > > > * "builds on open standards to prevent "lock-in" - I think that > > > prevent lock-in is not a reason but a consequence of building KDE > > > software on open standards. open stardars are aabout transparency, > > > agreement, provenance... > > > > That makes it too vague in my opinion. Preventing lock-in is a tangible > > benefit for our users, it is in fact why many instituional users choose > > Free > > software over proprietary offerings. We should call it by its name to make > > clear why we do this, and why users want and need it. > > > > > * "provides usable security and privacy features to protect against > > > surveillance and data theft" there is legal surveillance that we do > > > not want to prevent. In any case, privacy is a right challenged in our > > > digital era like was not challenged before, in the analogic era. Is > > > the right to privacy the central point, not the prevention against > > > data theft. You can prevent your data from being stolen through > > > proprietary software too, among other options. > > > > Legal says exactly nothing, since it's bound to a jurisdiction, a concept > > which doesn't exactly work in the internet era. Something can be legal in > > a > > given location, yet morally wrong. Also, we're not judging (a Free > > software > > principle), we're allowing privacy, full stop. > > > > > * "have consistent, easy to use human interfaces" and "provide a > > > seamless user experience" seems to me close enough to justify that we > > > condense them in a single statement. > > > > One is about the interface quality itself, the other is about a > > cross-device > > experience, I think they warrant separate mentioning to make the mission > > less > > fluffy and more concrete. > > > > > * I would be carefull with the words "integration" and > > > "interoperates". In order to work well, both concepts requires two > > > parties. We cannot guarantee any of them by ourselves. > > > > We can strive for it, however. Nothing wrong with that. > > > > > * Linked with the above, this statement is a set up for failure: > > > "interoperates well with proprietary software, formats and services" . > > > In simple words, it is not in our hands to provide a satisfactory > > > experience when dealing with proprietary software/formats/services. I > > > would re-formulate this in a way that reflects that we will do our > > > best. > > > > Again, I think it's absolutely sound to state that we want our software to > > work well with proprietary offerings. It provides real value to users and > > again makes it clearer why we do what we do. > > > > > * "empowers users independent of their abilities" I find this > > > statement vague. How are we going to empower them? what for? why it is > > > so important for us to empower software users? I would try to develop > > > it a little. > > > > How? :) > > > > > * I have a fundamental issue with the whole "user story". We are > > > upstream. We only reach 0.1% of our currrent users directly. We live > > > in an industry that has "downstream", that is, integrators and > > > distributors. I truly believe that one of our limiting factors is our > > > belief that we can reach users "by ourselves", through direct > > > interaction. This idea, which is popular in our community, has it
Re: [kde-community] possible foss alternative to telegram/slack
Personally I am pro opensource options, but the most relevant one is that we pick one and stick with it as long as possible. That is key. On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 10:55:52 CEST Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > Right now many groups are using Telegram as their primary communication > medium due to some limitations in IRC (mainly due to the ease of pasting > images inline the channel and the lack of fancy mobile clients for IRC), > there may be other valid reasons i'm not aware of > today i randomly stumbled upon > http://www.mattermost.org/ > > it seems to tick all the boxes: > * open source > * we can self host an instance > * fancy mobile and desktop apps > * inline multimedia attachments into messages > * and most important for us old farts: bridge to IRC :p > > didn't try it, just stumbled upon it but may be something to be considered? ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] DigitalOcean is now a sponsor!
Ok! Restraint activated! :) On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:20:25 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > On 6 July 2016 at 14:15, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > When the official announcement is out can we share it using official > > channels/ social media accounts? > > I would exercise some restraint until we've made sure we're not unfair > to the other sponsors who support us just as much. But in general yes. > > > On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:07:10 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > >> On 6 July 2016 at 13:28, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > >> > On 05.07.2016 21:36, Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > >> >> Hi Guys, > >> >> > >> >> I'm excited to announce that DigitalOcean is sponsoring the KDE > >> >> Community. Under their open source software sponsoring programme [1], > >> >> they've very kindly set us up to use computing resources free of > >> >> charge. > >> > > >> > Awesome news! Is this sponsorship already "public" from their side > >> > (I don't see KDE on the list you linked to)? > >> > And if it is: Would they like us to keep it low-profile or talk about > >> > it? > >> > My first gut reaction would be to head over to G+ and spread the good > >> > news, but of course I'd only do that if they want us to. > >> > >> Go ahead! We'll make an official announcement on the dot in a few > >> days, but of course we'll concentrate more on how we use the resources > >> than on the sponsorship instead. > >> > >> Don't make it an "official KDE announcement" though. A personal post > >> saying "this is crazy awesome!" is fine. > >> > >> > Cheers, > >> > Thomas > >> > >> -- Boudhayan > >> ___ > >> kde-community mailing list > >> kde-community@kde.org > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > > > > ___ > > kde-community mailing list > > kde-community@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] DigitalOcean is now a sponsor!
When the official announcement is out can we share it using official channels/ social media accounts? On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:07:10 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > On 6 July 2016 at 13:28, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On 05.07.2016 21:36, Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > >> Hi Guys, > >> > >> I'm excited to announce that DigitalOcean is sponsoring the KDE > >> Community. Under their open source software sponsoring programme [1], > >> they've very kindly set us up to use computing resources free of > >> charge. > > > > Awesome news! Is this sponsorship already "public" from their side > > (I don't see KDE on the list you linked to)? > > And if it is: Would they like us to keep it low-profile or talk about it? > > My first gut reaction would be to head over to G+ and spread the good > > news, but of course I'd only do that if they want us to. > > Go ahead! We'll make an official announcement on the dot in a few > days, but of course we'll concentrate more on how we use the resources > than on the sponsorship instead. > > Don't make it an "official KDE announcement" though. A personal post > saying "this is crazy awesome!" is fine. > > > Cheers, > > Thomas > > -- Boudhayan > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] DigitalOcean is now a sponsor!
Yeah I would love to post about it - so hovering over the "post" button :) (if not, then thats obviously cool too - but if it is, then that would be brilliant) On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:58:18 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 05.07.2016 21:36, Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > I'm excited to announce that DigitalOcean is sponsoring the KDE > > Community. Under their open source software sponsoring programme [1], > > they've very kindly set us up to use computing resources free of > > charge. > > Awesome news! Is this sponsorship already "public" from their side > (I don't see KDE on the list you linked to)? > And if it is: Would they like us to keep it low-profile or talk about it? > My first gut reaction would be to head over to G+ and spread the good > news, but of course I'd only do that if they want us to. > Cheers, > Thomas > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] KDE store sprint
I will considering the proposed date also love to sit remotely and join in. There is a FOSS conferance here in Gothenburg then and I am trying to wave the KDE flag high there (since there are a ton of companies going). (This is where I add "we should have a mumble server for stuff like this" :) ) On Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:45:19 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > Hi Sebas, > > On 5 April 2016 at 16:17, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > As you may have followed, at Blue Systems, we're in the process of > > revamping the infrastructure around add-ons, basically what is currently > > served by opendesktop.org. > > > > One of our goals is to open up development of an ocs-compatible server > > component. As we're nearing completion of the underlying infrastructure > > and > > licensing bits, we'd like to actually start thinking about its future, and > > get more people involved to think about it with us. To us, the current > > opendesktop.org is only the beginning, we can imagine it becoming a truly > > Free and open software store for KDE and others in the future. > > > > To start this effort, we'd like to invite interested people to a sprint to > > make plans, discuss strategies and tactics and generally start an open > > development process. > > This makes me very excited. > > > The meeting could take place in week 21, between 23 May and 28 May, and > > we'd be happy to host it as a 3 days sprint in Bielefeld, Germany -- but > > we're flexible in this regard. > > Can I attend this meeting remotely somehow? I don't have a passport > yet and getting one soon-ish (with a Shengen visa) will be a major > problem owing to my lack of a permanent address at this moment (Indian > Passport laws are pretty crappy when it comes to students living in > residential universities). > > > If you're interested in attending this meeting, please reply to this > > thread or let me know via email, so we can gauge interest and perhaps > > start making travel arrangements. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > sebas > > Thanks, > Boudhayan Gupta > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Your KDE highlight of 2014?
Hi Lydia and everyone! For me the best KDE moment this year was my first meeting with the KDE devs in january in Barcelona. It blew my mind (and I still think that for Promo material 2015 we should focus on the devs as people a lot more). I prepared for what I imagined was sitting in a corner doodling and a lot of people programming and doing C++ jokes or something. Nothing could be further from the truth - inclusive, kind, never condescending and charming. So many ideas - so much stuff we have to do that will make KDE even more brilliant. My second-but-close was Akademy. Meeting brilliant people, talking to the other people in VDG (which was scary and cool) like Andrew and Thomas ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] FOSDEM Organisation
The last decades Computer Sciences have lost women across the board, from being a steadily rising curve it is now lower than it was in the 80's (1) Women in STEM sciences are low but in many other areas this is slowly getting better because the age old excuse of "well women don't really want to" doesn't hold muster when the natural question "why?" is asked. Earlier you asked about female dominated areas like child care for example - the same are true for them, the attempt is to find more men to enroll in educations for example (a drive that has worked rather well here for example). The reasoning isn't so the girls taking those classes could socialize or find dates (I am actually pretty certain not a one argued for that eventual benefit) - its because it enriches the area when there is 1) more people (adding women does not mean kicking out an equal amount of men of course. 2) people from different backgrounds behave differently in situations. More minds thinking about a problem from different angles = new ideas and solutions. For example there are female showers at hostels not because the owners think that women are better hostel guests than men or that they want to implement a "genderocracy" (a term I think is a rather apt description of what we're living under now) but because they want more guests and not having seperate showers tend to drive people away. Finally the Code of Conduct is not just about women, its about LGBT people, people of color etc. AND white straight men too of course. (1) From Wp http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/when-computer-programming-was-womens-work/2011/08/24/gIQAdixGgJ_story.html?hpid=z3 On Monday 08 December 2014 22.33.50 Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Alex Merry wrote: > > As Valorie said, if you want more female talk submissions, > > I am afraid that I am personally not yet sure whether I wish that. I > am not going to those places and events to see beautiful ladies, get > dates later and the like. What I personally would like is the most > qualified submissions. Whether that happens to be from a male, female, > etc, that does not matter so much to me. When I visit these > conferences I would like to have the best technical experience and > then the socialization as the secondary trait. Even then, I do not > mind what gender I am socializing with. > > I hope that this effort for fixing the "gender ratio" will not > compromise the quality of the conferences. I personally believe more > in meritocracy than "genderocracy". Therefore, I would rather put the > effort into attracting world-wide and recognized industry and > community experts than ladies just for the sake of being females. > > I agree about the CoC, however, gender independently. This is not such > a big concern for me, but I appreciate that if it is for some other > people. I have personally never seen the QtCS, Qt dev days, etc, code > of conducts either and they were amazing events. Qt dev days in Munich > (2011?) had many ladies around, too. Either way, If the organizers can > do something to make the attendants feel comfortable without too much > extra work, I think they ought to try. > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] FOSDEM Organisation
o.O Can I ask you, do you represent Fosdem at all? On Saturday 06 December 2014 18.22.45 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > John, > > You couldn't be more wrong. > > I have been organizing the Desktops DevRoom for the last 4-5 years (cannot > really remember), so I can speak from reality. > > There is no discrimination against women in FOSDEM. It's just they do not > submit talk proposals. Simple as that. E. g. this year we have only had one > talk proposal from a woman and I had to chase her! In the very few cases > where they do submit talks, more often than not when you tell them "you've > got your slot" the answer will be "oh, I won't be attending, I need more > time to plan". Well, sorry but everybody is notified of > acceptance/rejection with exactly the same amount of time (4-6 weeks) due > to the timeframe FOSDEM manages. If men can come, why can't women? (we do > also have some rejections from men due to too-late notice but it's less > frequent). > > People are overreacting with these CoC's (or lack of). For some reason, and > it's not discrimination of any kind, women are by far not interested in > technology and engineering. In the same way they are by far more interested > in Nursery, Medicine, Psychology, Marketing & Advertising, etc than men. Is > there a CoC about men for Nursery or Midwife conventions? I don't think so. > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:21 AM, John Layt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just a heads-up that I will not be attending FOSDEM next year and will > > not be assisting in any way with preparations for FOSDEM or providing > > any hardware. This is the result of the FOSDEM organisers refusing to > > institute a proper Code of Conduct for attendees or to take any other > > steps in addressing the dreadful gender ratio of speakers on their > > program or attending the conference itself. I have attempted to > > discuss these issues with them and found their attitude and beliefs > > completely unacceptable to me. As such I cannot give them any form of > > support, and sadly that means not helping the KDE community at this > > event anymore. > > > > John. > > ___ > > kde-community mailing list > > kde-community@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Sad news (fwd)
That is a good point, Boud would probably be able to get a hold of the guys friend (who wrote on the Calligra list on his behalf) just to check in and make sure we don't do something they'd rather not see. On Wednesday 27 August 2014 22.03.34 Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Jens, I think that would be lovely. It is so hard to lose a member of > the community. And to lose a young person, who would otherwise have a > long career ahead of them, feels tragic. > > I would like to see a respectful Dot story, and some nice memories on > blogs as well. And a named Calligra release seems perfect. > > Does anyone have contact with the family, to be sure that this > attention to their loved one is welcome? > > Valorie > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jens wrote: > > +1 > > > > Moji or Mojtaba release sounds nice - should I do a black web banner or > > something that we can add to our respective blogs? > > > > Just to show some respect for someone who contributed to something that > > benefit us all. > > > > On Wednesday 27 August 2014 12.14.48 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > >> On Wednesday 27 August 2014 09:00:04 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > >> > Thats terrible news. > >> > > >> > As a community would it be appropriate to write up a short > >> > retrospective > >> > of > >> > Mojtaba? Perhaps combined with a photo, some information about him, his > >> > work and his life and post it on one of the larger KDE blogs? > >> > > >> > I don't know how Iranian burial customs work and we should check in > >> > with > >> > his family and friends (Mehrdad perhaps if you could help out) but with > >> > their allowance it seems as a nice gesture to do towards someone who > >> > has > >> > been a part of our community as well as worked on things that benefit > >> > us > >> > all (beyond our own community). > >> > > >> > What do everyone else think? > >> > >> When community member Claire Lotion passed away in 2012, there was a Dot > >> story ( https://dot.kde.org/2012/05/20/remembering-claire-lotion ) and > >> the > >> KDE SC 4.9 release was dedicated to her memory ( > >> http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.9/ ). Chakra followed suit and named > >> their KDE SC 4.9 release series "Chakra Claire". > >> > >> Maybe dedicating a Calligra release to Mojtaba would make more sense > >> than a KDE SC release because Calligra was his focus, but a dot story > >> would surely be due. > > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Sad news (fwd)
Thats terrible news. As a community would it be appropriate to write up a short retrospective of Mojtaba? Perhaps combined with a photo, some information about him, his work and his life and post it on one of the larger KDE blogs? I don't know how Iranian burial customs work and we should check in with his family and friends (Mehrdad perhaps if you could help out) but with their allowance it seems as a nice gesture to do towards someone who has been a part of our community as well as worked on things that benefit us all (beyond our own community). What do everyone else think? On Tuesday 26 August 2014 18.21.53 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Hi, > > We just received this message on the calligra mailing list. Mojtaba (moji > on irc) has been a member of the Calligra community since 2011 when he was > a Season of KDE student. He has worked on Calligra ever since. He really > was one of the nicest people in our community, and I can't say how shocked > I am that he is gone now. > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:04:43 +0800 > From: Mehrdad Momeny > Reply-To: Calligra Suite developers and users mailing list > > To: calligra-de...@kde.org > Subject: Sad news > > Hi Calligra developers, > I hope you are all fine. > > I guess some of you should know Mojtaba Shahi, He was working on some parts > of Calligra as I know. I have a really sad news for those of you, it's yet > unbelievable for myself. > Mojtaba has passed away some days ago due to a brain stroke. > Today was his burial in his hometown, Mashhad. > > May his soul rest in peace now. > > Regards, > Mehrdad Momeny > > PS: He and his family were a life long friends to me and my family. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
