Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread John Rudd


I disagree that it's a POS.  It's lacks depth, and it's certainly not the
document that you should use to administrate your KDC, but it's not a bad
intro to kerberos for people who have little to no experience with it, and
are approaching it mostly from a user's perspective.  On the otherhand,
if you WERE expecting to be a definitive reference, the blame for your
disappointment should be more internal than external.

I certainly didn't find any more mistakes in it than I found in the actual
MIT docs.


> From: Steve Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Yes, this is the 60 page POS that the original posting was about.
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, John Rudd wrote:
>
> > 
> > I don't know if this one was mentioned yet, but there's also
> > 
> > "Kerberos: A Network Authentication System" by Brian Tung (addison
> > wesley)
> > 
> > 
> > It's more of a booklet than a book, and it doens't go in to deep detail,
> > but it does a good job as an intro to kerberos.
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FYI: 1.2.6 on crypto-publish.org

2002-09-23 Thread Andreas Hasenack

I didn't see an announcement here, so I'm just emailing the list
to tell that I saw the 1.2.6 release available on www.crypto-publish.org.


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Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Steve Freed

Yes, this is the 60 page POS that the original posting was about.

--
Steve.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, John Rudd wrote:

> 
> I don't know if this one was mentioned yet, but there's also
> 
> "Kerberos: A Network Authentication System" by Brian Tung (addison
> wesley)
> 
> 
> It's more of a booklet than a book, and it doens't go in to deep detail,
> but it does a good job as an intro to kerberos.
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Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Rod Smith

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Raeburn) writes:
> See also "Network Security: Private Communication in a Public World"
> (2nd ed), by Charlie Kaufman, Radia Perlman, and Mike Speciner.
> Chapters 13 and 14 cover Kerberos versions 4 and 5 in around 60 pages
> or so.

Since people are mentioning chapters in books with a broader focus, I
might as well mention my own latest: _Advanced Linux Networking_
(Addison-Wesley, 2002, ISBN 0-201-77423-2). Chapter 6 covers Kerberos
in about 30 pages, focusing on Kerberos 5 (Kerberos 4 is mentioned, but
not described in any detail). I've got a Web page on the book with a
chapter listing and general description:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/adv-net/

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Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread John Rudd


I don't know if this one was mentioned yet, but there's also

"Kerberos: A Network Authentication System" by Brian Tung (addison
wesley)


It's more of a booklet than a book, and it doens't go in to deep detail,
but it does a good job as an intro to kerberos.

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Installing SEAM on Solaris 8

2002-09-23 Thread foto


I have several Solaris 8 systems that are current with respect to all applicable 
patches.

I need to install SEAM and the necessary encryption pack componenets that offer data 
encryption on these systems.

In the lab, I installed the software on a similar system and had problems.  The only 
way I was able to get things working was to "force" some of the Kerberos related 
patches (109223-02, 109805-11, 112237-05 and 112390-05) to install (patchadd -u) after 
installing SEAM and the encryption pack components.

This doesn't really seem clean to me.  Is there a better way?

foto



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Re: Single sign-on with W2K, IE 6.1 and JGSS

2002-09-23 Thread Ramana Turlapati


"Paul Sangster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> No I don't believe JGSS support SPNEGO (nor does Solaris's GSS).
>
I understand that JGSS does not support SPNEGO. But I am not passing the
spnego token to acceptSecContext(). spnego token is of the form "Negotiate
[gssapi-token]". I pass just the gssapi-token part.

/T$R
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Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Ken Raeburn

See also "Network Security: Private Communication in a Public World"
(2nd ed), by Charlie Kaufman, Radia Perlman, and Mike Speciner.
Chapters 13 and 14 cover Kerberos versions 4 and 5 in around 60 pages
or so.  Naturally, they don't go into all the details of the protocol
and the ways in which it can be used in that much space, but looking
it over briefly (I only just got around to getting my copy now) I'd
say it looks like they cover it rather well.

Ken

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Re: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Jason Garman

On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 11:59:54AM -0700, Leong Tim wrote:
> 
> What do you think is the best book I could get on kerberos?  The only thing I could 
>find is some 150 page piece of garbage.  Any ideas?

I'm currently working on a Kerberos book for O'Reilly.  I started the
project precisely because I haven't seen any decent printed documentation
on Kerberos. This book will cover the basic protocols, several
implementations including MIT, Heimdal, and using Windows 2000 as a KDC.  
Also I'll cover cross-platform single-sign-on using Windows, Unix, and Mac
OSX as client machines.

I'll definately need reviewers (both technical reviewers and also
reviewers in my target audience, sysadmins with little previous
knowledge of Kerberos) in the future, so if you're interested please send
me an email.

Thanks
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Re: Single sign-on with W2K, IE 6.1 and JGSS

2002-09-23 Thread Paul Sangster



Luke Howard wrote:

>>I have been trying to achieve single sign-on with IE 6.1 on Win2k systems.
>>Basically, trying to emulate IIS and IE kerberos auth exchange. In my case
>>the server happens to be Tomcat.
>>IIS and IE exchange GSSAPI token using SPNEGO mechanism. IIS sets HTTP
>>header "WWW-Authenticate:" to "Negotiate". IE responds with HTTP Header
>>"Authorization:" set to "Negotiate b64[gssapi-token]".
>>
> 
> Does JGSS support SPNEGO? If not, and there is a Java ASN.1 parser, it
> shouldn't be too hard to add.


No I don't believe JGSS support SPNEGO (nor does Solaris's GSS).


> 
> 
>>Any ideas why this is happening? Also, is jgss implementation on Solaris
>>based on Sun GSSAPI C implementation? Is SSPI different from GSSAPI?
>>
> 
> I don't know whether JGSS is based on the GSS-API C implementation. The
> latter is in turn based on the MIT code with fixed mech glue. SSPI has
> a different set of API bindings to GSS-API, however it emits compatible
> tokens and thus is wire-equivalent.


JGSS is a pure Java implementation so its not layered upon the existing C
implementation.


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> 
> -- Luke
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RE: Books on Kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Sreedhar Gupta G.

Hi,
I am working in Kerberos from past 1 year. I am very happy to hear that you
are writing a book specifically on Kerberos and interested to review the
book. My mail-id is
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Thanks & Regards
Sreedhar Gupta


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From: Jason Garman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:09 PM
To: Leong Tim
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Subject: Re: Books on kerberos


On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 11:59:54AM -0700, Leong Tim wrote:
> 
> What do you think is the best book I could get on kerberos?  The only
thing I could find is some 150 page piece of garbage.  Any ideas?

I'm currently working on a Kerberos book for O'Reilly.  I started the
project precisely because I haven't seen any decent printed documentation
on Kerberos. This book will cover the basic protocols, several
implementations including MIT, Heimdal, and using Windows 2000 as a KDC.  
Also I'll cover cross-platform single-sign-on using Windows, Unix, and Mac
OSX as client machines.

I'll definately need reviewers (both technical reviewers and also
reviewers in my target audience, sysadmins with little previous
knowledge of Kerberos) in the future, so if you're interested please send
me an email.

Thanks
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Timezone problems between Win 98/XP client and Linux KDC

2002-09-23 Thread Turbo Fredriksson

I've been trying to get Kerberos V to work (as a client)
on my Win98 at home without success - timestamp problems.

Now I've tried on a WinXP at work. Same thing. The time
is correct!

I'm not sure of the timezone though...

On the Kerberos server (a Debian GNU/Linux) it's :

[papadoc.pts/13]$ date ; date -u ; date -R
Mon Sep 23 16:14:19 CEST 2002
Mon Sep 23 14:14:19 UTC 2002
Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:14:19 +0200

On the windows machine, it say

(GMT+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rom, Stockholm, Wien

which is correct.

Any problem between 'CEST' and 'GMT+01:00'?


How would the timezones be set for this to work?
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RE: Books on kerberos

2002-09-23 Thread Frank Balluffi


Besides the Kerberos RFCs (e.g., 1510) and the documentation to the MIT implementation 
(http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/krb5-1.2/index.html#documentation), the following are 
worth reading:

1. http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/dialogue.html
2. Kerberos section in William Stallings' Cryptography and Network Security (which is 
based on 1.)
3. Sun GSS-API Programming Guide (http://docs.sun.com/?p=/doc/816-1331&a=load)

Frank



   

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Well, I read the  same 150 piece of garbage you're probably referring to and I know 
what you  mean.

The book that I  learned the most about Kerberos from was "Windows 2000 Security" by 
Roberta  Bragg (New Riders Publishing). While this book is Windows oriented, it does a 
 very good job of explaining the basics of Kerberos. Chapter 5 is called  "Kerberos in 
the Raw" and takes a OS independent look at the protocol. From the  introduction of 
that chapter:

"Before you begin  the study of MS's implementation of the Kerberos standard, and 
certainly before  you compare their implementation to those from other vendors, it is 
important to  study the standard itself, uncooked -- in the raw. "

And that's  exactly what it does.


ERX




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What do you think is the best book I could get on kerberos?  The only  thing I could 
find is some 150 page piece of garbage.  Any ideas?

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