Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

Hi John,

Good find.  We should delete that one too.

With the new UI I’ve found some places where it would be nice to have footprint 
& symbol viewers available, but we’ve only the one icon (library with 
magnifying glass).  The library icon is almost totally gone anyway, so I think 
we should replace it with the opamp + magnifying glass and the footprint + 
magnifying glass.

Cheers,
Jeff.


> On 30 Jul 2018, at 10:05, John Beard  wrote:
> 
> While we're at it, new_cvpcb looks like it's also unused: it's built
> and listed in bitmaps.h, but nothing ever uses it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Young  wrote:
>> No, looks like I just missed deleting it.
>> 
>>> On 28 Jul 2018, at 23:01, John Beard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the heads up, makes life easier with fewer icons!
>>> 
>>> Looks like bitmaps_png/sources/edit_component.svg still exists,
>>> though. Is that intentional?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
 Hi John,
 
 Just an update on the opamp icon list.  These icons:
 
 copycomponent.svg
 edit_component.svg
 edit_part.svg
 import_cmp_from_lib.svg
 save_part.svg
 save_part_in_mem.svg
 
 
 no longer exist.
 
 Cheers,
 Jeff.
 
 
 On 26 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Jeff Young  wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
 graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
 
 I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
 
 BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer
 from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but 
 if
 you’re so inclined….
 
 Cheers,
 Jeff.
 
 
 On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
 the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
 they are a very prominent set of them.
 
 The problem is that both:
 
 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
 
 If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
 have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
 width changes the feel a bit.
 
 Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
 a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
 for the op-amp icons in that style.
 
 Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
 smaller, like "copycomponent".
 
 List of icons affected for reference:
 
 add_component.svg
 copycomponent.svg
 edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
 edit_comp_footprint.svg
 edit_comp_ref.svg
 edit_comp_value.svg
 edit_component.svg
 edit_part.svg
 export_part.svg
 field_properties.svg
 hidden_pin.svg
 icon_libedit.svg
 import_cmp_from_lib.svg
 import_part.svg
 libedit.svg
 new_component.svg
 new_cvpcb.svg
 part_properties.svg
 save_part.svg
 save_part_in_mem.svg
 
 Yours, bike-sheddingly,
 
 John
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[John Beard]

Hi,

Here are 6a and 6b options, including the DeMorgan icons.

Cheers,

John

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Jeff Young  wrote:
> I actually agree that 6a looks better on it’s own, but 6b matches the 
> DeMorgan icons better.
>
> (Of course we could always update those to match the opamp….)
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>> On 26 Jul 2018, at 17:37, Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's my old eyes but 6a looks better to me.  6b seems a bit
>> crowded with the additional line thickness.  I can live with it either way.
>>
>> On 7/26/2018 5:26 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
>>> 6B is my new fave.
>>>

>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[John Beard]

While we're at it, new_cvpcb looks like it's also unused: it's built
and listed in bitmaps.h, but nothing ever uses it.

Cheers,

John

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Young  wrote:
> No, looks like I just missed deleting it.
>
>> On 28 Jul 2018, at 23:01, John Beard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up, makes life easier with fewer icons!
>>
>> Looks like bitmaps_png/sources/edit_component.svg still exists,
>> though. Is that intentional?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Just an update on the opamp icon list.  These icons:
>>>
>>> copycomponent.svg
>>> edit_component.svg
>>> edit_part.svg
>>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>>> save_part.svg
>>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>>>
>>>
>>> no longer exist.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Jeff Young  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
>>> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
>>>
>>> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
>>>
>>> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer
>>> from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but if
>>> you’re so inclined….
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
>>> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
>>> they are a very prominent set of them.
>>>
>>> The problem is that both:
>>>
>>> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
>>> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>>>
>>> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
>>> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
>>> width changes the feel a bit.
>>>
>>> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
>>> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
>>> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>>>
>>> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
>>> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>>>
>>> List of icons affected for reference:
>>>
>>> add_component.svg
>>> copycomponent.svg
>>> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
>>> edit_comp_footprint.svg
>>> edit_comp_ref.svg
>>> edit_comp_value.svg
>>> edit_component.svg
>>> edit_part.svg
>>> export_part.svg
>>> field_properties.svg
>>> hidden_pin.svg
>>> icon_libedit.svg
>>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>>> import_part.svg
>>> libedit.svg
>>> new_component.svg
>>> new_cvpcb.svg
>>> part_properties.svg
>>> save_part.svg
>>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>>>
>>> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

No, looks like I just missed deleting it.

> On 28 Jul 2018, at 23:01, John Beard  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Thanks for the heads up, makes life easier with fewer icons!
> 
> Looks like bitmaps_png/sources/edit_component.svg still exists,
> though. Is that intentional?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Just an update on the opamp icon list.  These icons:
>> 
>> copycomponent.svg
>> edit_component.svg
>> edit_part.svg
>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>> save_part.svg
>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>> 
>> 
>> no longer exist.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff.
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Jeff Young  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
>> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
>> 
>> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
>> 
>> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer
>> from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but if
>> you’re so inclined….
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff.
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
>> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
>> they are a very prominent set of them.
>> 
>> The problem is that both:
>> 
>> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
>> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>> 
>> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
>> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
>> width changes the feel a bit.
>> 
>> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
>> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
>> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>> 
>> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
>> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>> 
>> List of icons affected for reference:
>> 
>> add_component.svg
>> copycomponent.svg
>> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
>> edit_comp_footprint.svg
>> edit_comp_ref.svg
>> edit_comp_value.svg
>> edit_component.svg
>> edit_part.svg
>> export_part.svg
>> field_properties.svg
>> hidden_pin.svg
>> icon_libedit.svg
>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>> import_part.svg
>> libedit.svg
>> new_component.svg
>> new_cvpcb.svg
>> part_properties.svg
>> save_part.svg
>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>> 
>> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[John Beard]

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the heads up, makes life easier with fewer icons!

Looks like bitmaps_png/sources/edit_component.svg still exists,
though. Is that intentional?

Cheers,

John

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Just an update on the opamp icon list.  These icons:
>
> copycomponent.svg
> edit_component.svg
> edit_part.svg
> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
> save_part.svg
> save_part_in_mem.svg
>
>
> no longer exist.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 26 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Jeff Young  wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
>
> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
>
> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer
> from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but if
> you’re so inclined….
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
> they are a very prominent set of them.
>
> The problem is that both:
>
> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>
> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
> width changes the feel a bit.
>
> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>
> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>
> List of icons affected for reference:
>
> add_component.svg
> copycomponent.svg
> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
> edit_comp_footprint.svg
> edit_comp_ref.svg
> edit_comp_value.svg
> edit_component.svg
> edit_part.svg
> export_part.svg
> field_properties.svg
> hidden_pin.svg
> icon_libedit.svg
> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
> import_part.svg
> libedit.svg
> new_component.svg
> new_cvpcb.svg
> part_properties.svg
> save_part.svg
> save_part_in_mem.svg
>
> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>
> John
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

Hi Kevin,

These are the icons used in the toolbars and menus, not the symbols used on the 
canvas.

Cheers,
Jeff.

> On 27 Jul 2018, at 16:12, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> 
> On 2018-07-26 06:00 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov wrote:
>> Hmm, tough choice
> [snip]
>> The reason I kept 6C is because the other icons might only look good in 1px 
>> body.
>> 6D looks too close and 6B looks too far, so unless there's an intermediate 
>> that'll look good (doesn't matter if it's on the grid or not) then the 
>> concession has to be made towards one or the other based again on how the 
>> other icons might look.
> 
> the images are too small for me to tell which one I would prefer to see in a 
> schematic. I would need to see them in context.
> 
> All I ask is that if someone is going to mess around with the symbol for one 
> of the more commonly used schematic symbols that you keep the same size and 
> position of the pins. This will avoid breaking existing schematics. The last 
> time someone changed the R symbol it was made narrower and the two pins of 
> the part no longer extended out far enough to meet up with the wires on my 
> schematics. I had to adjust all the wires going to a resistor to reconnect 
> them.
> 
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> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Kevin Cozens]

On 2018-07-26 06:00 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov wrote:

Hmm, tough choice

[snip]
The reason I kept 6C is because the other icons might only look good in 1px 
body.


6D looks too close and 6B looks too far, so unless there's an intermediate 
that'll look good (doesn't matter if it's on the grid or not) then the 
concession has to be made towards one or the other based again on how the 
other icons might look.


the images are too small for me to tell which one I would prefer to see in a 
schematic. I would need to see them in context.


All I ask is that if someone is going to mess around with the symbol for one 
of the more commonly used schematic symbols that you keep the same size and 
position of the pins. This will avoid breaking existing schematics. The last 
time someone changed the R symbol it was made narrower and the two pins of 
the part no longer extended out far enough to meet up with the wires on my 
schematics. I had to adjust all the wires going to a resistor to reconnect them.


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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

Hi John,

Just an update on the opamp icon list.  These icons:

copycomponent.svg
edit_component.svg
edit_part.svg
import_cmp_from_lib.svg
save_part.svg
save_part_in_mem.svg

no longer exist.

Cheers,
Jeff.


> On 26 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Jeff Young  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin 
> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
> 
> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
> 
> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer 
> from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but if 
> you’re so inclined….
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
>> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
>> they are a very prominent set of them.
>> 
>> The problem is that both:
>> 
>> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
>> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>> 
>> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
>> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
>> width changes the feel a bit.
>> 
>> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
>> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
>> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>> 
>> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
>> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>> 
>> List of icons affected for reference:
>> 
>> add_component.svg
>> copycomponent.svg
>> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
>> edit_comp_footprint.svg
>> edit_comp_ref.svg
>> edit_comp_value.svg
>> edit_component.svg
>> edit_part.svg
>> export_part.svg
>> field_properties.svg
>> hidden_pin.svg
>> icon_libedit.svg
>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>> import_part.svg
>> libedit.svg
>> new_component.svg
>> new_cvpcb.svg
>> part_properties.svg
>> save_part.svg
>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>> 
>> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

I actually agree that 6a looks better on it’s own, but 6b matches the DeMorgan 
icons better.

(Of course we could always update those to match the opamp….)

Cheers,
Jeff.

> On 26 Jul 2018, at 17:37, Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it's my old eyes but 6a looks better to me.  6b seems a bit
> crowded with the additional line thickness.  I can live with it either way.
> 
> On 7/26/2018 5:26 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
>> 6B is my new fave.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Wayne Stambaugh]

Maybe it's my old eyes but 6a looks better to me.  6b seems a bit
crowded with the additional line thickness.  I can live with it either way.

On 7/26/2018 5:26 AM, Jeff Young wrote:
> 6B is my new fave.
> 
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Fabrizio Tappero]

Hello,
sharp 1px or 2px lines cause icon to look sharp (obviously). This does not
normally lead to a pleasant GUI experience unless we consider a GUI from
the 90s.

According the the overall style chosen it might be a good idea to add a a
second line next to the 1px (2px) line of a much lower (or higher)
saturation. More sophisticated options exists too. Some guidance here:

http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines

cheers
Fabrizio




On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:01 PM Andrey Kuznetsov 
wrote:

> Hmm, tough choice, I wish I could see the set for the rest of the icons in
> these 3 styles: 6[BCD]
>
> The reason I kept 6C is because the other icons might only look good in
> 1px body.
>
> 6D looks too close and 6B looks too far, so unless there's an intermediate
> that'll look good (doesn't matter if it's on the grid or not) then the
> concession has to be made towards one or the other based again on how the
> other icons might look.
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
>
>> 6B is my new fave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Hmm, tough choice, I wish I could see the set for the rest of the icons in
these 3 styles: 6[BCD]

The reason I kept 6C is because the other icons might only look good in 1px
body.

6D looks too close and 6B looks too far, so unless there's an intermediate
that'll look good (doesn't matter if it's on the grid or not) then the
concession has to be made towards one or the other based again on how the
other icons might look.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:

> 6B is my new fave.
>
>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

6B is my new fave.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[John Beard]

OK, that is style 6.

Note that the opamp is a bit taller in 6B. This is because the versions
with the 2px output lead have the body 0.5px lower to keep alignment. The
alternative remedy is 6D, where the - is moved down 1px.

Cheers,

John

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov 
wrote:

> Can you do B4 body and C2 or B2 +-? except make sure +- don't look like
> they're touching the body.
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
>> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
>>
>> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
>>
>> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also
>> suffer from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or
>> not, but if you’re so inclined….
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff.
>>
>>
>> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
>> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
>> they are a very prominent set of them.
>>
>> The problem is that both:
>>
>> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
>> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>>
>> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
>> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
>> width changes the feel a bit.
>>
>> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
>> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
>> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>>
>> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
>> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>>
>> List of icons affected for reference:
>>
>> add_component.svg
>> copycomponent.svg
>> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
>> edit_comp_footprint.svg
>> edit_comp_ref.svg
>> edit_comp_value.svg
>> edit_component.svg
>> edit_part.svg
>> export_part.svg
>> field_properties.svg
>> hidden_pin.svg
>> icon_libedit.svg
>> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
>> import_part.svg
>> libedit.svg
>> new_component.svg
>> new_cvpcb.svg
>> part_properties.svg
>> save_part.svg
>> save_part_in_mem.svg
>>
>> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Can you do B4 body and C2 or B2 +-? except make sure +- don't look like
they're touching the body.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Jeff Young  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin
> graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.
>
> I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.
>
> BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also
> suffer from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or
> not, but if you’re so inclined….
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
> they are a very prominent set of them.
>
> The problem is that both:
>
> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
>
> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
> width changes the feel a bit.
>
> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
> for the op-amp icons in that style.
>
> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
> smaller, like "copycomponent".
>
> List of icons affected for reference:
>
> add_component.svg
> copycomponent.svg
> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
> edit_comp_footprint.svg
> edit_comp_ref.svg
> edit_comp_value.svg
> edit_component.svg
> edit_part.svg
> export_part.svg
> field_properties.svg
> hidden_pin.svg
> icon_libedit.svg
> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
> import_part.svg
> libedit.svg
> new_component.svg
> new_cvpcb.svg
> part_properties.svg
> save_part.svg
> save_part_in_mem.svg
>
> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
>
> John
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Op-amp symbol icons

[Jeff Young]

Hi John,

Most other icons use a heavier pen width (see the DeMorgan symbols, pin 
graphics, etc.), which would favour the B column.

I like the wider stance of the input pins in row 4.

BTW, the new black-and-white 16x16 icons for the dialog buttons also suffer 
from slight blurryness.  I don’t know if they’re worth fixing or not, but if 
you’re so inclined….

Cheers,
Jeff.


> On 25 Jul 2018, at 15:05, John Beard  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The pixel alignment of the op-amp icons looks a bit fuzzy compared to
> the other newer icons. These are not the only misaligned icons, but
> they are a very prominent set of them.
> 
> The problem is that both:
> 
> 1) The lines are not on the pixel grid
> 2) The lines are not a whole number of pixels wide.
> 
> If this *were* to be changed so horizontal lines are sharp, the icons
> have to be modified. However, going up to 2px or down to 1px line
> width changes the feel a bit.
> 
> Attached are some options (for the full size op-amp icons at 26px). If
> a consensus or executive decision ever emerges, I will produce a patch
> for the op-amp icons in that style.
> 
> Personally, my "vote" is 2A, or 5A for icons where the symbol is
> smaller, like "copycomponent".
> 
> List of icons affected for reference:
> 
> add_component.svg
> copycomponent.svg
> edit_cmp_symb_links.svg
> edit_comp_footprint.svg
> edit_comp_ref.svg
> edit_comp_value.svg
> edit_component.svg
> edit_part.svg
> export_part.svg
> field_properties.svg
> hidden_pin.svg
> icon_libedit.svg
> import_cmp_from_lib.svg
> import_part.svg
> libedit.svg
> new_component.svg
> new_cvpcb.svg
> part_properties.svg
> save_part.svg
> save_part_in_mem.svg
> 
> Yours, bike-sheddingly,
> 
> John
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