[kicad-users] Re: kicad kicad-2010-03-14-svn-R2456-final-UBUNTU_9.10.tgz
Hello Paulo. > >>But this shows to me, that the Debian squeeze version will not solve > the problem Now i am not so shure with this.. I looked for the debian squeeze backport, but the recomendet files are not there. So i tried in an act of despair to install from squeeze main direkt, frantically mixing stable lenny and testing squeeze. Eerie, i know:O) I put a "squeeze main" source to my sources.list and installed libstdc++6-4.4-dbg, also libgcc1_4 and gcc-4.4. Then i installed kicad-2010-03-14-final for Ubuntu 9.10 like recommendet by kicad. the result is a running kicad server, but if i try to start as an example eeschema, nothing seems to happen. When i tried it again, i got the message, that eeschema was already running. So i started eeschema direkt by hand out of a terminal and got the error message: symbol lookup error: "/usr/local/kicad/bin/eeschema: undefined symbol: gdk_window_is_destroyed" Perhaps this happens, because i did it from a terminal, but with the kicad server itsself, it works, starting kicad from a terminal I even tried it as a root. Strange...maybe, the reason is mixing up stable and testing. Now i will go back to the old 2009-final, and hope, it will run. otherwise, i think, i would have to remove the files from the testing. Perhaps debian squeeze really would solve the problem.i hope. > have you tried the aktual ubuntu 9.10 already? > > My notebook has ubuntu 9.10, I installed this new version of kicad on > it, and it runs well. > Good to knew. I installed the Windows version at the pc at my job, just to test it. I think the mouse handling is more smooth and i like the "undo" at pcbnew. But i noticed, that at the module editor i am not able to change the wide of the lines, an in a german forum, somebody told me, that he is not able to choose "single layer". I think, he needs this for autorouting, an looked for this, and i think he is right.. I do not bother about this, because i don't like autorouting.by hand, i will just not put wires to the upper side. :-) With bewst regard: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic
[kicad-users] Re: linux problem
Hello Dan. > > I installed a program called "ps2pdf" I think "ps2pdf" is not a program, but a script for steering the program "ghostscript". Also ghostscript has to be compiled in a way allowing to write pdf-files. Not all distributions support ps2pdf in their package repository or support the convertion of ps to pdf by ghostscript. Look: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/6.50/Ps2pdf.htm with best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic
[kicad-users] Re: creation library
Hello Giuseppe. > when I try to create a new library I have this error: > "Wrong DEF format in line 5, skipped" > and is impossibile to create it. Did you use a blank or spacebar in the Name? Sometimes this causes errors. Dont use blanks/spacebar at kiCad names. With best regards: Bernd Wiebus
[kicad-users] Some files uploaded. a symbol library and a manual for the symbol editor.
Manual for the Symbol Editor of EESchema / KiCad and a symbol library for EESchema / KiCad. Description of the files "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf", "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-DE.pdf" and SymbolsSimilarEN60617+oldDIN617-RevB-en.lib" All files are under GNU public license by Bernd Wiebus Despite KiCad Program works very well, it is rather complex. This is the reason, why i wrote a manual for a part of this projekt, how do create and edit symbols for the schematic part of KiCad, EESchema. Also there is a describtion of a bug and a workaround for this bug. This manual is in the file "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf". It belongs to the version: EESchema: Build Version: EESchema (2006-08-28) - Unicode version and EESchema build Version (20080825c-final). Operation System is Linux Debian Etch" and Etchnhalf", but the behavior with windows XP is just the same. Due to the fast progress in the work of Jean-Pierre Charras, this manual could be obsolete in some aspects. An english translation of this manual is planned, but not yet ready. sorry. "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf" is the translation of the german original document "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-DE.pdf". Because my english is very bad, i sugest you to read the german original version. The file SymbolsSimilarEN60617+oldDIN617-RevB-en.lib" contains a symbol library for KiCad. Despite there is olnly a limited possibility to draw schematics for EN60617 with EESchema (as an example, the wire conections are squares and not round), i made a library with EN60617 similar symbols. This library contains all often used symbols like resistors, capacitors, chokes, transistors and so on. You can use it like a painters palette for peripheral and discrete circuits. You only need a additional library for your ICs and for special devices. This can be done, because the structure of KiCad allows it to make the connection between a symbol and a footprint at a later step in the development of the board. Symbol and footprint are independent at KiCad. There are also some chokes and transformer symbols for the obsolete DIN617. And there are symbols for wire-bridges (jumpers). Mostly, those wire bridges are zero-Ohm resistors, and so they are documented at schematic and assembly plan and also at the bill of materials. But sometimes you have real wire bridges (at standart PCB and breadboards), which are often poorly documented. This will be ok from a sight, who says that those wire bridges are normal wire. But because those wire bridges are landmarks for orientation during debugging or because the are an easy acces for measuring, it would be a pity, if they are not documented at the schematic, and so here are the symbols. I never saw a wire bridge symbol at any standart. With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic, Uedem, Germany 10th. September 2009.
[kicad-users] Some Files uploadet. Symbol library and Symbol Editor Manual.
Description of the files "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf", "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-DE.pdf" and SymbolsSimilarEN60617+oldDIN617-RevB-en.lib" All files are under GNU public license. by Bernd Wiebus Despite KiCad works very well, it is rather complex. This is the reason, why i wrote a manual for a part of this projekt, how do create and edit symbols for the schematic part of KiCad, EESchema. Also there is a describtion of a bug and a workaround for this bug. This manual is in the file "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf". It belongs to the version: EESchema: Build Version: EESchema (2006-08-28) - Unicode version and EESchema build Version (20080825c-final). Operation System is Linux Debian Etch" and Etchnhalf", but the behavior with windows XP is just the same. Due to the fast progress in the work of Jean-Pierre Charras, this manual could be obsolete in some aspects. An english translation of this manual is planned, but not yet ready. sorry. "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-EN.pdf" is the translation of the german original document "SymboleFuerKiCad31082009-RevC-DE.pdf". Because my english is very bad, i sugest you to read the german original version, if you understand german. The file SymbolsSimilarEN60617+oldDIN617-RevB-en.lib" contains a symbol library for KiCad. Despite there is olnly a limited possibility to draw schematics for EN60617 with EESchema (as an example, the wire conections are squares and not round), i made a library with EN60617 similar symbols. This library contains all often used symbols like resistors, capacitors, chokes, transistors and so on. You can use it like a painters palette for peripheral and discrete circuits. You only need a additional library for your ICs and for special devices. This can be done, because the structure of KiCad allows it to make the connection between a symbol and a footprint at a later step in the development of the board. Symbol and footprint are independent at KiCad. There are also some chokes and transformer symbols for the obsolete DIN617. And there are symbols for wire-bridges (jumpers). Mostly, those wire bridges are zero-Ohm resistors, and so they are documented at schematic and assembly plan and also at the bill of materials. But sometimes you have real wire bridges (at standart PCB and breadboards), which are often poorly documented. This will be ok from a sight, who says that those wire bridges are normal wire. But because those wire bridges are landmarks for orientation during debugging or because the are an easy acces for measuring, it would be a pity, if they are not documented at the schematic, and so here are the symbols. I never saw a wire bridge symbol at any standart. with best Regards: Bernd Wiebus alias DL1EIC, Uedem, Germany 10th. September 2009.
[kicad-users] Re: How to save changes in GerbView?
Hello Dan and Chris > > But I'd rather have people shot on sight than allowing them to change the > > output... > > > > If the database contains crap, don't just use tipp ex on the printout, > > correct the data > > How I agree... > I have changed some drillings at gerber files, because we dont have the original Files and program, only doku and gerber files. Otherwise the hole work would be done again. But with knowledge of gerber, you only need a gerber viewer and an editor. With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic
[kicad-users] Documentation about file formats
Hello I would make some symbols and devices, but found no documentation about the file format of the librays. Because i would like to chance symbols, editing already placed symbols (like described at the eeschema help) will not work. I looked into some librarys with an editor, but most of the abbreviations are unknown to me. I speak only german and english, so the portugese documentation is not realy a help for me. Is there a way to get an english documentation? I would translate it to german. With best regards: Bernd Wiebus
