[kicad-users] Re: Postscript Output

2008-04-29 Thread sadkra
Hello,

Just today I finally decided to forward my layout to my PCB 
manufacturer. I went to him personally to see what he has to say 
about oblong holes(or slots) in my layout.

He checked my drill file with the software he uses with his CNC 
machine  oblong holes all came correctly, atleast on PC. He didn't 
tell me what software he uses for his cnc or even which cnc he uses. 
Don't know why !!

Let's see what I get on board, that's about 12 days.

BTW, I also ran Pulsonix demo yesterday and it's Gerber output shows 
the holes(actual size or just a tiny dot). Can't we get such gerber 
with kicad ? 
For hand-drilling low quntity boards, it is useful to have these 
marks to easily locate center of the pad. Hope to see this thing 
implemeneted in kicad.

I also wanted to add the I tried Pulsonix, Zuken in last couple of 
weeks  I must say I am glad to stay with Kicad.

thanks,
sam_des





[kicad-users] Re: Postscript Output

2008-04-27 Thread sadkra
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Rick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 I'm not sure what you are asking about.  I have never seen oblong
 holes in a board.  Are you talking about a routed slot?  When you
 produce gerber files, how are the oblong holes defined?  Regular 
holes
 are defined in a drill file typically in the Excellon format.  In 
what
 output file are your oblong holes defined?


Hello,

Some components do have non-circular leads such as Power Relays, Fuse 
Holders, Fuses etc. You can check the Gerber section in Kicad help, 
there is topic about rectangular holes. Also you can check Pad 
properties of any pad in kicad.

BTW, these holes are defined in drill file only. Here is what my drill 
file  drill report file says,

-drl.rpt
-
T2  0.032  0.81mm  (19 holes)
T3  0.035  0.90mm  (426 holes)  (with 8 oblongs)
T4  0.039  1.00mm  (14 holes)

.drl
---
T3

X1.050Y-5.250G85X1.050Y-5.050
G05
X1.050Y-4.857G85X1.050Y-4.656
G05
X1.300Y-5.250G85X1.300Y-5.050
G05
X1.300Y-4.857G85X1.300Y-4.656
G05
X1.800Y-5.250G85X1.800Y-5.050
G05
X1.800Y-4.857G85X1.800Y-4.656
G05
X1.550Y-5.250G85X1.550Y-5.050
G05
X1.550Y-4.857G85X1.550Y-4.656
G05
T4

Well, I loaded the file in GerbView 6  all I can see a single hole.
That was the reason I tried Postscript output.

My ancient BoardMaker for DOS also supports such rectangular holes as 
standard pad type. But most modern layout softs doesnot allow this !?

I have circumvented this problem(Eagle) by placing overlapping holes 
on a single pad thus creating rectangular hole. Since kicad does not 
allow this  it does supports the non-circular holes I tried it.
I just wanted to cross-check the output!

regards,
sam_des



[kicad-users] Re: Postscript Output

2008-04-26 Thread sadkra
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, jean-pierre charras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sadkra a écrit :
  Hello Everyone,
 
  I just finished my first sch-pcb project in Kicad. 
 
  I tried to output the pcb in Postscript format. When I looked 
  carefully at the Postscript file, I found that some of the pads are 
  missing /or some pads are only half drawn in bottom-copper layer 
  while bottom-copper mask shows the complete pad-mask.
 
  I may add that gerber output of the same pcb is fine without any 
  problems.
 
  It will be of great help if someone throws any light on this.

 Postscript output has a bug: after drawing oblong pads, some next
drawings can be incorrectly drawn (bad size)
 This old bug is now solved (Postscript output will be Ok in next
release, coming soon)
 
 Can you confirm you have oblong pads on your board ?
 
 
 Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
 
 Maître de conférences
 Directeur d'études 2ieme année.
 Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2
 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble
 BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex
 
 Recherche :
 GIPSA-LIS - INPG
 46,  Avenue Félix Viallet
 38031 Grenoble cedex


Thanks everyone !

Yes, my PCB do have oblong pads. But they are quite long way away from
pads that are missing or half drawn. These missing pads are Circular.

BTW, non-circular(oblong) holes are also shown incorrectly on PS
output. And can't check that with gerber. I as glad to see the
support for non-circular holes (can't find that in many commercial
packages), but I want to check before committing my design to PCB
manufacturer.

Can we output the gerber with actual or small holes ? That's why I
tried Postscript.


regards,
sam_des



[kicad-users] Postscript Output

2008-04-24 Thread sadkra
Hello Everyone,

I just finished my first sch-pcb project in Kicad. 

I tried to output the pcb in Postscript format. When I looked 
carefully at the Postscript file, I found that some of the pads are 
missing /or some pads are only half drawn in bottom-copper layer 
while bottom-copper mask shows the complete pad-mask.

I may add that gerber output of the same pcb is fine without any 
problems.

It will be of great help if someone throws any light on this.

regards,
sam_des