Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-16 Thread Nicole Engard
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Hugo Agud ha...@orex.es wrote:

 Hi Nicole,

 I am not pretty sure about how the pattern should look like, but I attach
 this image,If this is not what you expected I will try harder ;)

 http://s11.postimg.org/44jzzbxmr/patron.png


Thanks Hugo! I'll give this a try.
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Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-16 Thread Sebastian Hierl
Hi Nicole / Everyone,

I asked our Serials Librarian whether she would feel comfortable sharing
our experience/samples with you, but the problem is exactly that: she
started to understand and had a handle over the serials module in 3.12, but
with 3.14 everything she used to do no longer applies.  She now manually
enters each new issue she receives.  Others on the list seem to have the
same questions and it has been difficult to find answers and to update the
documentation.  Could the person or team who wrote the code for the Serials
module in 3.14 provide additional examples and more detailed information on
how the serials module works?  It seems that they would know best and may
be the only ones who know, given the many questions on the list.

Best,
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Nicole Engard neng...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Hugo Agud ha...@orex.es wrote:

  Hi Nicole,
 
  I am not pretty sure about how the pattern should look like, but I attach
  this image,If this is not what you expected I will try harder ;)
 
  http://s11.postimg.org/44jzzbxmr/patron.png
 
 
 Thanks Hugo! I'll give this a try.
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Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-16 Thread Hernandez, Heather
Hi, Francois--

Thank you for the reminder about your post regarding inner counter--it's
a very helpful example.  So, am I correct that inner counter actually
means something like parts already received?

If anyone else can help define other terms referred to by the contextual
help /or the manual, e.g., Last value and/or Rollover at and Issues
expected, etc., that would be great.

And, Sebastian:  please tell your serials librarian that I'm in the exact
same position!  I felt that I understood Koha's serials functions in
previous versions and they worked very well, but with 3.16 I'm within
inches of deleting all our subscription records and just adding an item
record when an issue comes in.

Best,
Heather
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Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-15 Thread Nicole Engard
Sorry to nudge, I haven't gotten any help with the documentation yet so I'm
really not sure how to do this. I will of course share the info you give me
in the manual as a sample subscription if anyone who understands the new
serials module could help out here.

Thanks
Nicole


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Nicole Engard neng...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Can anyone suggest some help for creating a pattern for The new republic:
 0028-6583

 It is: Biweekly (24 no. a year) and looks like this:

 Vol 245, No 10, Issue 4967
 Vol 245, No 11, Issue 4968
 Vol 245, No 12, Issue 4969

 The issue goes on and on.

 Thanks
 Nicole

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Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-15 Thread Hugo Agud
Hi Nicole,

I am not pretty sure about how the pattern should look like, but I attach
this image,If this is not what you expected I will try harder ;)

http://s11.postimg.org/44jzzbxmr/patron.png


2014-07-11 21:54 GMT+02:00 Nicole Engard neng...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 Can anyone suggest some help for creating a pattern for The new republic:
 0028-6583

 It is: Biweekly (24 no. a year) and looks like this:

 Vol 245, No 10, Issue 4967
 Vol 245, No 11, Issue 4968
 Vol 245, No 12, Issue 4969

 The issue goes on and on.

 Thanks
 Nicole
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Re: [Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-15 Thread Hernandez, Heather
Hi, all--

There are many things that I don't understand about serials in 3.16--maybe
one of the developers could help explain?  E.g. when entering or modifying
a subscription, the contextual help says:

 'Numbering pattern' will help you determine how the numbers are printed
for each issue
 Start with the numbering on the issue you have in hand, the numbering
that matches the date  you entered in the 'First issue publication' field

Is that what goes in Last value? What is the purpose of Inner counter?

 If you have chosen any 'Numbering Format' other than 'Number' in the
'Rollover at' field, enter
 the last issue number before the volume number changes

Where on the screens is the Rollover at field?  To what is this referring?

 If you chose the 'Number' Numbering Format you will see 'issues expected'
in which you will
 enter the total number of issues you expect to receive.

Where on the screens is Issues expected?

In the manual itself says at:
http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/newsubscription.html

The 'Inner counter' is usually only needed in the first field (the
'Volume' in the image above) to help with the rollover of the number. The
'Inner counter' is 1 less than the last field. If the 'Number' is 4 the
'Inner counter' under 'Volume' should be 3

I don't understand what The 'Inner counter' is 1 less than the last
field, means--which last field? Last field where? What is this last
field called on the screen? I also don't understand what If the 'Number'
is 4 the 'Inner counter' under 'Volume' should be 3 is supposed to mean.

Maybe a developer could help explain?  Maybe a developer is working on
updating the contextual help to match the screens, so that the manual could
then be updated?

I'm no serials newbie--I've worked extensively on ILS's going back to the
old Innovacq that ran on a mainframe, but I find 3.16 serials byzantine--I
can't guess what the developers are intending the values to do or how they
are intended to work together.  Screenshots are helpful as models from
which I can hack new subs via trial and error, but I want to understand
what the values are supposed to be doing  how they're supposed to work
together, and the contextual help isn't matching the screen options..._
So I'd really appreciate any clarification--maybe developer(s) could help?

Thanks so much, everyone!

Cheerio!
heather
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Technical Services Librarian
San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center
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[Koha] Serial Pattern Help (again)

2014-07-11 Thread Nicole Engard
Hi all,

Can anyone suggest some help for creating a pattern for The new republic:
0028-6583

It is: Biweekly (24 no. a year) and looks like this:

Vol 245, No 10, Issue 4967
Vol 245, No 11, Issue 4968
Vol 245, No 12, Issue 4969

The issue goes on and on.

Thanks
Nicole
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