KR> Data Plate question
And just where does one get data plates anyway? Aircraft Spruce and Wicks would have them. Not sure if this helps, BUT In Australia you would need to change the details as per the NEW CofA you would most likely need for all the changes. Phil Matheson SAAA Ch. 20 http://www.saaa20.org/ VH-PKR Australia EMAIL: phillipmathe...@bigpond.com KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com --- Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Kr2s plans
Dear tim, I can send you a Bankers check for the amount if u donot want to give out ur bank ac no. ashwin --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Stephen Glover wrote: From: Stephen Glover Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans To: "'KRnet'" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 6:50 PM Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India. Paypal might be better Tim. Steve Glover Long-EZ N2121U Former KR-2 N902G Corona, CA kr02g at cox.net -Original Message- Dear Tim. I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i can transfer $250 asap. Thanking you best regards ashwin l ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Data Plate question
> > >What is the usual procedure regarding the original data plate that goes >on an Experimental when it gets signed off? Since mine was originally >attached to the plane, everything on it has changed except the name of >the builder and the name of the plane. It is also quite worn with time >and hard to read. Is there any reason, regulation wise, why I cannot >re-do the data plate to reflect the changes? >Mike ++ Did you build the aircraft? Did you "re-build" the aircraft? Just what is your situation? The only other data on the data plate is the engine, gross weight, and empty weight. None of these should change without the airplane going back through phase one testing for the assigned number of hours. I would not go about altering the data plate without taking all the proper legal steps (FAR's). I'm guessing your local FSDO will be involved before this is all over. Larry Flesner
KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights
What about the girls? --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Ray Fuenzalida wrote: From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:41 AM Correct. EAA has no restrictions, BSA does. But we do like to participate in the Young Eagles program. The boys love it. Don't know why the restriction exists, but it does. The boys can't use a chain saw either (plus other stuff). --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Jeff Scott wrote: From: Jeff Scott Subject: KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights To: kr...@mylist.net List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:47 PM Ray, You are referencing the BSA's guidelines. However, the EAA has no such restrictions. Last I heard, the BSA didn't operate the Young Eagles program. Instead, if they choose to participate, they are under self imposed restrictions. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM EAA Chapter 691 President -- Original Message -- From: Ray Fuenzalida It's not 100% bogus. if you are flying scouts,BSA guidelines will not allow them to fly in experimentals. Always a good call. Click now to establish your local phone service! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTHbDj3Paj0qikm7qNcsJESBtSZxGdsuz3OtvM2L9OqUsJO2nSfSYg/ ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Data Plate question
Mike,
If you want to change the data plate, all the information required is just
four things - the builder's name, registration number ("N" number), Model
and serial number.
Ed J.
>What is the usual procedure regarding the original data plate that goes
>on an Experimental when it gets signed off? Since mine was originally
>attached to the plane, everything on it has changed except the name of
>the builder and the name of the plane. It is also quite worn with time
>and hard to read. Is there any reason, regulation wise, why I cannot
>re-do the data plate to reflect the changes?
>Mike
KR> Kr2s plans
Shipping to India, would require $$$ I'd look closer to your area ie: Europe - Original Message - From: "ashwin belmar" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:07 AM Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans Dear tim, I can send you a Bankers check for the amount if u donot want to give out ur bank ac no. ashwin --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Stephen Glover wrote: From: Stephen Glover Subject: RE: KR> Kr2s plans To: "'KRnet'" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 6:50 PM Hmmm, don't know if I would be sending my bank account number to India. Paypal might be better Tim. Steve Glover Long-EZ N2121U Former KR-2 N902G Corona, CA kr02g at cox.net -Original Message- Dear Tim. I am building a KR2 in India i would like to buy your plans if it has not been sold. pls send me your bank account no so that i can transfer $250 asap. Thanking you best regards ashwin l ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights
I have to agree with Mark. The FAA, in an attempt to look good in the eys of the genral public, will for sure, impose new sanctions on Experimentals. We do not need it! If the spam cans do the job, leave it alone. The excitement of experimentals will catch the would be pilot later on. Solly Melyon-Mgr AeroMax Aviation, LLC www.aeromaxaviation.com 229.241.1175 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Mark Langford wrote: From: Mark Langford Subject: Re: KR> Re: Young Eagles Flights To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 2:06 PM Ten folks have pointed out that there is no official EAA policy which prefers "certified" aircraft over experimentals. I'm just telling you what I was told by one of my local chaper officers. I volunteered to fly Young Eagles and was told that there were plenty of guys flying them in spam cans, and that the "national office" discouraged the use of experimentals flying Young Eagles. Somebody pointed out that didn't make sense, considering EAA stands for "Experimental", but my guess is what they'd really hate to see would be an experimental plane killing a 12 year old on the Nightly News. Y'all can keep telling me what the official policy is, and you are absolutely correctI'm just conveying what I was told. It may be the fabrication and opinion of one guy, but that's what I was told, and I don't fly Young Eagles as a result of it... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Fw: KR> Data Plate question
- Original Message - From: "Ed Janssen" To: "Kenneth B. Jones" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Re: KR> Data Plate question > Ken, > > Good eye, Ken. Yup, according to the regs, you are correct. Registration > (N number) not required. I looked it up - Part 45.11. I was relying on > memory from what an FAA rep. (what do THEY know?) told me at a recent > seminar. The point here is that many places that do engraving for > homebuilts want to add a whole bunch of other stuff - address, gross > weight, speeds, etc., presumably to add to the cost of the engraving while > increasing the size of the plate. For some builders, it's a vanity thing > to add the extra info, but certainly not required. Part 45.11 also lists > 3 other things which are mostly not applicable to homebuilts, unless, > perhaps a certified aircraft engine is used, but not real sure about that > either. Somebody like Larry Flesner may chime in about that. > > Ed J. > > > >> Ed, >> >> Where is the requirement for N-number on the Identification Plate? I >> only find builder, model, and builder's serial no. >> >> Ken Jones >
KR> Data Plate question
laser...@juno.com said... I believe the context was that Perry was the "farthest West" that the fly-in has been held, referring to the West coordinates... Cheers, Jerry Pryce
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
For the last several medicals I have always been concerned that I would not pass and was always worried that my blood pressure would be too high. Well this morning I took my 3rd class and the old blood pressure was low and in the normal range but I failed my distance vision. Tern at the last minute I remembered that my driving and flying sunglasses are prescription and I told the examiner to hold on just a minute as I needed to go to my car and get my sunglasses. with them looking kind of puzzled I dashed out to the car and retrieved them, came back in, put my sunglasses on retook the test and passed with flying colors. I once again have dodged the medical bullet for two more years. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
KR> Data Plate question
If you are in Canada the place to obtain a data plate is from RAA CANADA. You can give the office a call at 1-800-387-1028. As ever, the plate for a Canadian plane is different from any other nation's plate. Bill Weir - Original Message - From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: KR> Data Plate question > > >What is the usual procedure regarding the original data plate that goes >on an Experimental when it gets signed off? Since mine was originally >attached to the plane, everything on it has changed except the name of >the builder and the name of the plane. It is also quite worn with time >and hard to read. Is there any reason, regulation wise, why I cannot >re-do the data plate to reflect the changes? >Mike ++ Did you build the aircraft? Did you "re-build" the aircraft? Just what is your situation? The only other data on the data plate is the engine, gross weight, and empty weight. None of these should change without the airplane going back through phase one testing for the assigned number of hours. I would not go about altering the data plate without taking all the proper legal steps (FAR's). I'm guessing your local FSDO will be involved before this is all over. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
Mark, let me tell you about my nightmare. Two years ago in March I had a (one) bout with A-fibulation caused by physical stress. I was sent to the hospital, the A-fib was gone by the time I was admitted and hasn't returned in over two years. I was sent to have a heart catherization, no problems, strong healthy heart, fantastic ateries, no blockages. However, I am still taking Cumutin as a blood thinner. In order to get my medical (no problem last year) I had to wear a 24 hour heart monitor, have the printed read-out sent to Atlanta FAA along with 6 months of cumutin level blood tests registering between 2.5 and 3.0 and a statement from both my heart specialist and my FAA Examiner. This was at a cost of about $1000. Last year, no problem. This year new female doctor required the same thing. She rejected 2 of the cumutin tests, required me to get 2 more. I get one per month anyway. This started two months before my medical ran out the end of April. We talked back and forth for almost two months now. Finally I had my FAA examiner intercede and talk to her. Today she approved my medical for only 4 months, until October 9, 2009. Between now and then I have to submit 8 more blood test showing cumutin levels between 2.5 and 3.0. and these should be submitted at least a month prior to expiration in order not to loose any more time. This would take me through the remainder of my present certificate year ending April 30, 2010. This present certificate I have was only approved for 1 year. Makes me wonder if I will be flying with you guys much longer. Hope so. Bill Page N880AB - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: KR> The dreaded medical exam. For the last several medicals I have always been concerned that I would not pass and was always worried that my blood pressure would be too high. Well this morning I took my 3rd class and the old blood pressure was low and in the normal range but I failed my distance vision. Tern at the last minute I remembered that my driving and flying sunglasses are prescription and I told the examiner to hold on just a minute as I needed to go to my car and get my sunglasses. with them looking kind of puzzled I dashed out to the car and retrieved them, came back in, put my sunglasses on retook the test and passed with flying colors. I once again have dodged the medical bullet for two more years. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
Now that is what I call a hassle. Hope it all works out for you. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com - Original Message - From: "countryhomeprint" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> The dreaded medical exam. Mark, let me tell you about my nightmare. Two years ago in March I had a (one) bout with A-fibulation caused by physical stress. I was sent to the hospital, the A-fib was gone by the time I was admitted and hasn't returned in over two years. I was sent to have a heart catherization, no problems, strong healthy heart, fantastic ateries, no blockages. However, I am still taking Cumutin as a blood thinner. In order to get my medical (no problem last year) I had to wear a 24 hour heart monitor, have the printed read-out sent to Atlanta FAA along with 6 months of cumutin level blood tests registering between 2.5 and 3.0 and a statement from both my heart specialist and my FAA Examiner. This was at a cost of about $1000. Last year, no problem. This year new female doctor required the same thing. She rejected 2 of the cumutin tests, required me to get 2 more. I get one per month anyway. This started two months before my medical ran out the end of April. We talked back and forth for almost two months now. Finally I had my FAA examiner intercede and talk to her. Today she approved my medical for only 4 months, until October 9, 2009. Between now and then I have to submit 8 more blood test showing cumutin levels between 2.5 and 3.0. and these should be submitted at least a month prior to expiration in order not to loose any more time. This would take me through the remainder of my present certificate year ending April 30, 2010. This present certificate I have was only approved for 1 year. Makes me wonder if I will be flying with you guys much longer. Hope so. Bill Page N880AB - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: KR> The dreaded medical exam. For the last several medicals I have always been concerned that I would not pass and was always worried that my blood pressure would be too high. Well this morning I took my 3rd class and the old blood pressure was low and in the normal range but I failed my distance vision. Tern at the last minute I remembered that my driving and flying sunglasses are prescription and I told the examiner to hold on just a minute as I needed to go to my car and get my sunglasses. with them looking kind of puzzled I dashed out to the car and retrieved them, came back in, put my sunglasses on retook the test and passed with flying colors. I once again have dodged the medical bullet for two more years. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Kr2s plans
In a message dated 6/12/2009 6:45:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t...@telus.net writes: Shipping to India, would require $$$ I'd look closer to your area ie: Europe how much can it cost to ship plans? Todd Thelin "The older I get...The faster I was!" rdrace...@aol.com 912-596-8057 **Shop Dell?s full line of Laptops now starting at $349! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221881320x1201406166/aol?redir=http:%2F%2 Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218036%3B37264217%3Bz)
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
Just another note, the heart catherization cost $14,000 as an out-patient. Thank goodness insurance paid for it. This is all I am going to say about it. Bill - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: KR> The dreaded medical exam. Now that is what I call a hassle. Hope it all works out for you. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com - Original Message - From: "countryhomeprint" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> The dreaded medical exam. Mark, let me tell you about my nightmare. Two years ago in March I had a (one) bout with A-fibulation caused by physical stress. I was sent to the hospital, the A-fib was gone by the time I was admitted and hasn't returned in over two years. I was sent to have a heart catherization, no problems, strong healthy heart, fantastic ateries, no blockages. However, I am still taking Cumutin as a blood thinner. In order to get my medical (no problem last year) I had to wear a 24 hour heart monitor, have the printed read-out sent to Atlanta FAA along with 6 months of cumutin level blood tests registering between 2.5 and 3.0 and a statement from both my heart specialist and my FAA Examiner. This was at a cost of about $1000. Last year, no problem. This year new female doctor required the same thing. She rejected 2 of the cumutin tests, required me to get 2 more. I get one per month anyway. This started two months before my medical ran out the end of April. We talked back and forth for almost two months now. Finally I had my FAA examiner intercede and talk to her. Today she approved my medical for only 4 months, until October 9, 2009. Between now and then I have to submit 8 more blood test showing cumutin levels between 2.5 and 3.0. and these should be submitted at least a month prior to expiration in order not to loose any more time. This would take me through the remainder of my present certificate year ending April 30, 2010. This present certificate I have was only approved for 1 year. Makes me wonder if I will be flying with you guys much longer. Hope so. Bill Page N880AB - Original Message - From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: KR> The dreaded medical exam. For the last several medicals I have always been concerned that I would not pass and was always worried that my blood pressure would be too high. Well this morning I took my 3rd class and the old blood pressure was low and in the normal range but I failed my distance vision. Tern at the last minute I remembered that my driving and flying sunglasses are prescription and I told the examiner to hold on just a minute as I needed to go to my car and get my sunglasses. with them looking kind of puzzled I dashed out to the car and retrieved them, came back in, put my sunglasses on retook the test and passed with flying colors. I once again have dodged the medical bullet for two more years. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
Mark Jones wrote: > For the last several medicals I have always been concerned that I would not > pass and was always worried that my blood pressure would be too high. Well > this morning I took my 3rd class and the old blood pressure was low and in > the normal range but I failed my distance vision. Tern at the last minute I > remembered that my driving and flying sunglasses are prescription and I told > the examiner to hold on just a minute as I needed to go to my car and get my > sunglasses. with them looking kind of puzzled I dashed out to the car and > retrieved them, came back in, put my sunglasses on retook the test and passed > with flying colors. I once again have dodged the medical bullet for two more > years. > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > We are allowed to wear our prescription glasses when taking the medical vision test arent we? -- Glenn Martin Owner KR2 N1333A Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> The dreaded medical exam.
>We are allowed to wear our prescription glasses when taking the medical >vision test arent we? -- >Glenn Martin Absolutely yes.. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
KR> Valdosta crash
You mean other than this was the first official engine installation product of Bill Clapp's new company and he tried to blame the guy flying the plane? There was plenty of fuel as it was at least one of the sources of the fire which appears to have originated in the "engine compartment" based upon the exterior streaking from the flames noted on the fuselage. The investigation is still not complete so it will be interesting to see the final results. To say the radio installation was the source of the smoke/ fire does not mesh with what is already known. 1. The owner/ pilot was an electrician, he did wiring for a living so he probably knew what he was doing. 2. If the radio was the source of the initial and subsequent problem it would not have continued to operate allowing him to make the radio calls recorded. Anyone ever smoke a circuit before and it still worked? Not very likely I think. Make sure you know who is working on your plane and what their qualifications are. A nice paint job doesn't make up for poor quality. Steve Glover Long-EZ N2121U Former KR-2 N902G Corona, CA kr...@cox.net -Original Message- Subject: KR> Valdosta crash Does anyone know any details about the Valdosta crash? All I've read here is that he had an electrical problem and hit a tree trying to get it on the ground. If anyone knows any more than that about the crash I for one would be interested. Did gas have anything to do with him having to get it on the ground?
KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 351, Issue 172
> > "If you want to change the data plate, all the information required
is just
four things - the builder's name, registration number ("N" number), Model
and serial number."
Thanks Ed. Those things are all still the same, so I guess I'll just
leave it alone since Larry thinks I'll be talking to FSDO before it's
over.
Mike
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KR> Data Plate Question
> Did you build the aircraft? Did you "re-build" the aircraft? > Just what is your situation? When Steve Bennett bought my KR-1½ from Ken Cottle, he replaced the HAPI 1835 with one of his own 2180's and put the Ellison EFS-2 on the top instead of on the bottom, where Ken had put it. He also got rid of the hydraulic lifters. ** My data plate has HP, owner's name & address, weights, etc. - apparently all of it unnecessary I now know. I was thinking of bringing the plate up to date, but since the changed information on it isn't required anyway (thanks Ed) I'll probably just be leaving it alone. I'm going to re-weigh the plane soon anyway, just for my own curiosity. Mike Click here for great quotes from top international movers! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMAuPc3EnVuv1c6RZO1OeE6MaGCztbafRziNk9lMyQkflTOslBfXq/
KR> Data Plate question
Mike, This is a question that should go to your local FSDO, which often times gets a different answer depending on the FSDO Office. When a friend did a major rebuild of his Hummelbird (yes, the one that made it to several gatherings), he changed nearly everything about the plane including differnt engine type, empty weight, and gross weight. FSDO advised him to keep the original data plate on the plane, and rivet a second data plate with the new information next to the original data plate. Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:23:48 -0700 laser...@juno.com writes: > > ** > > What is the usual procedure regarding the original data plate that > goes > on an Experimental when it gets signed off? Since mine was > originally > attached to the plane, everything on it has changed except the name > of > the builder and the name of the plane. It is also quite worn with > time > and hard to read. Is there any reason, regulation wise, why I > cannot > re-do the data plate to reflect the changes? > > And just where does one get data plates anyway? > > Thanks, > > Mike Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSMd2nX25UdV1yMecwxPqrUHtG6iTXOJoBz5w7H8DzQlV1lv3q/
KR> Data plate info
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KR> Valdosta crash - lessons to be learned....
Just got online to check on any news here to find this remark from my friend Steve. To keep the record straight, it was Cary Howard, one of my best friends and a good man with a beautiful wife and two grown kids that died in this accident. After speaking to Cary's family it was agreed that I can disclose the happenings of that day to promote safety among fellow pilots. Cary's accident was probably caused by his decision to fly his plane in a manner not suited for his readiness of that of the plane. He built his own plane (by himself)and engine (with my help) (Aeromax was not in existence at that time) and I only gave him technical advise and helped him paint it. Also, there are many home electricians that make pretty bad car and plane electricians just as some car mechanics arent good with planes either. Cary was a fairly proficient pilot but I encouraged him to spend some hours of dual with me which he did. It took over 10 hours before he was at a point where I felt he would handle his plane fine. He also hired me to inspect and perform the first flights on it. The first flight was only about 45 minutes long and of course consisted of checking engine operation/temperatures/flight characteristics, stall speed, instrumentation and so on. It was uneventful and the airplane trimed out well. He had a tire rub and defective brake on that flight that had tobe repaired. I flew a second flight to 4500 feet and overflew the airport for almost 2 hours to build some time and try some manuevers and check speeds. The discrepencies given to the FAA were those stated, a defective altimeter (locked up at 3000 feet ), and a fuel stain on the shut off valve (dry blue stain with no smell to it). Cary was notified of these and what we know for sure is that he did change out the altimeter (I loaned him one and the bad one was on the hangar bench) and that he installed a cigarette lighter (he had a habit of smoking and flying) and radio into the airplane. We know these were done through a passing resident that talked to him when he was working under the panel. What we know of the day he went flying was that he only notified one of his friends that he felt ready to go but didnt want anyone around. The plan for the next test flight was that when he was to notify the tower of the test nature of the flight, and to remain over the airport to get acustomed to the plane and then to land. (Here is a lesson to learn - on first flights think about whom you want present. Never make those flight under pressure for time, weather, friends, or showing off. I chose to make mine with nobody but the safety crew from the airport around. Cameras can wait for another day. If you have a bad day do you want your immediate family to be there watching? The approach for one person may be different for another..just think about these things. Stack all the controllable odds in you favor if you can) I was at work when the airport called me and told me of the accident. My first thoughts were along the line of "why did he go fly without letting me know?" but I know why now because his wife told me that he didnt want anyone around. My other thoughts were that he took off but had PIO (pilot induced occilation) or something of that nature and crashed shorty after takeoff. Everyone was surprised to find out that he flew about 45 minutes before the accident and most of it was about 15 minutes away from the airport. Apparently what we think happended it this (specualtion only) We know that he took off and did a flyby and then left the airport area. A few minutes before the crash he radiod in that he has smoke in the cockpit. Shortly before the crash he radioed (perhaps on handheld of ELT type transmitter that a friend had given him because from what I know it was on emergency channel) that he had a fire. He apparently started heading back toward the airport when he made the first call, and crashed about eight miles out. He attempted an emergency landing (under power from local witness- not always reliable) but clipped a tree near the field. His plane had a composite fuel tank and of course not crash resistant. What went right? Cary did many things right. He knew that his piloting skills were not up to par so he had a biannual done with a CFI and then spent 10 hours doing dual in my KR2S to become acustomed to the fast speeds and the sensitivity of the plane. He had a test pilot check his plane and fly it for him (me). I have flown many different airplane and done dozens of first flight or test flights far many people and I truly believe it to be a wise think for an inexperienced pilot and builder to have. We spent many hours talking about what to do in emergencies, where are the landing fields, what to do when and so on. What went wrong? Cary may have been over confident of his flying skills in a KR. This is ha
