KR> High time KR's

[laser...@juno.com]

Old Blue was the high timer - never did get a firm figure on the hours
but it was over 2000.  It's in the archives, what Dan arrived at.

Sparky's KR built by Bob Passmore has about 1400 hours and was the first
KR with DD's tricycle gear, Sparky recently told me.  Also is one of the
only KR's that Jeannete has gone for a ride in, back in the day.

My KR-1½ (Ken Cottle's, finished in 1987) is almost at 1400 TT.  My
recent trip of 5331 SM added 47 hours.  It is a contender for the
highest-time KR, but you sure wouldn't know it to look at it.  It has
held up extremely well over time.  Top notch construction, finished with
Dietzler Durathane and being kept hangared throughout its life have all
played their part in keeping this still a new-looking plane.

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KR> KRSuper2 BuilderOctober 1, 2009 7:19:03 AM MST

[Kurt Clement]

>Nice to see some interest in this machine.


>There are a hardy few of us. . . 


I guess I am one of hardy few. I agree that I like the adventure and learning 
aspect of the build. I have the Horizontal done. It came in at 18lbs. Is that 
heavy? I know if I started over I could do better, lighter and faster. 
Hopefully this will help as I move onto the fuselage. Now that the weather is 
getting below triple digits I don't have to work in such tiny batches of epoxy. 
I had a batch of micro heat up on me and I had to toss it. I was able to use a 
few last bits of it patching door handle holes around the house.

This list is a great inspiration to keep at it.

168 Hours in AZ
-Kurt 

KR> KRSuper2

[Lee Van Dyke]

Sorry 4 letter word.


- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KRSuper2


Go back and read the E-mails on that SO CALLED $7,200.  He bought projects
and sold crap to other people.  I can remember a landing gear for one
example.  He did not build from scratch.  Take that into consideration.
About 6 years ago Clapp was a $ letter word.

Lee
- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Crompton" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KRSuper2


> You'll spend over $20,000 and more likely $25,000 to $30,000 for a nice
> one
> with decent panel




Aeromax Aviation's other half Bill Clapp, built his Corvair powered KR2S for
about $7,200.  http://www.krnet.org/krs/wc/  a long way short of
20-30K.


Cheers
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My building site: www.kr-2s.com
AN-BOLTS  www.an-bolts.com.au
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KR> KRSuper2

[Lee Van Dyke]

Go back and read the E-mails on that SO CALLED $7,200.  He bought projects 
and sold crap to other people.  I can remember a landing gear for one 
example.  He did not build from scratch.  Take that into consideration. 
About 6 years ago Clapp was a $ letter word.

Lee
- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Crompton" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KRSuper2


> You'll spend over $20,000 and more likely $25,000 to $30,000 for a nice 
> one
> with decent panel




Aeromax Aviation's other half Bill Clapp, built his Corvair powered KR2S for
about $7,200.  http://www.krnet.org/krs/wc/  a long way short of
20-30K.


Cheers
-- 
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AUSTRALIA

My building site: www.kr-2s.com
AN-BOLTS  www.an-bolts.com.au
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KR> RE: KR Longest time?

[Lee Van Dyke]

Try Richard Shirleys, or Rich Sefert spelling?  in CA.  they have been 
flying for a long time.

Lee
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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: KR> RE: KR Longest time?


RE: KR> Longest time?
Got the EAA newsletter tonight and wondered what kr has the most flying 
hours and will Mark Langford's 1000 hours be a milestone? EAA is compiling a 
list of 'high milage' homebuilts and maybe the KR's can make the list.


Gary








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KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[Lee Van Dyke]

General purpose Polyester or GP, is not as flexable as Vinylester or VE. 
Epoxy is the best option, but VE will work, but I would not use GP for a 
tank.  This information is from a guy who has made several tanks for 
automobiles.

Lee Van Dyke


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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:30 PM
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I thought it didn't do well with auto gas among some shrinkage issues 
similar to what you see on old boats.

Steve Glover
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To: KR Net
ReplyTo: KR Net
Subject: Re: KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester
Sent: Oct 1, 2009 6:21 PM

Don't know.  Piper never intended for their planes to have alcohol in
them.  That may very well be the reason why Steve Glover says not to use
it.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:01 -0700 "Fred Johnson" 
writes:
> How well will it hold up to alcohol?
>
>
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV

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KR> RE: KR Longest time?

[garya...@kwic.com]

RE: KR> Longest time?
 Got the EAA newsletter tonight and wondered what kr has the most flying hours 
and will Mark Langford's 1000 hours be a milestone? EAA is compiling a list of 
'high milage' homebuilts and maybe the KR's  can make the list.


Gary

KR> Re: Case Needed

[L. D. Mueller]

Engine you can trust?! Are you kidding?! LOL 

--just thought I'd give you a hard time for a second. Okay times up. :-)

Mark, we are all praying for you. Your luck will always be good. Especially
if you have a good engine!

Larry Mueller
Cuba City WI

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 PM
To: KR Net; Corvair Net
Subject: KR> Re: Case Needed

WOW, I can not believe how many offers I have had from you guys out there.
This is really what being part of an Experimental Aircraft Family is all
about. Just to let everyone know, I now have a good case. I would like to
again thank all of you who made me offers. It is amazing how many folks will
step up when someone is in need. It will be a couple of months before I get
my built short block back. The new refurbished and nitrided crank I bought
for my last rebuild is having to be completely reground from an .010 to a
.020, nitrided and polished. It was discovered that the main journals were
actually tapered by half a thousand which is not good. I am truly looking
forward to having an engine which I am able to trust. I will keep you all
informed of my progress. Thanks again everyone.  


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
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KR> Re: Case Needed

[Mark Jones]

WOW, I can not believe how many offers I have had from you guys out there. This 
is really what being part of an Experimental Aircraft Family is all about. Just 
to let everyone know, I now have a good case. I would like to again thank all 
of you who made me offers. It is amazing how many folks will step up when 
someone is in need. It will be a couple of months before I get my built short 
block back. The new refurbished and nitrided crank I bought for my last rebuild 
is having to be completely reground from an .010 to a .020, nitrided and 
polished. It was discovered that the main journals were actually tapered by 
half a thousand which is not good. I am truly looking forward to having an 
engine which I am able to trust. I will keep you all informed of my progress. 
Thanks again everyone.  


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[n92...@cox.net]

I thought it didn't do well with auto gas among some shrinkage issues similar 
to what you see on old boats. 

Steve Glover
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From: Jeff Scott
Sender: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
To: KR Net
ReplyTo: KR Net
Subject: Re: KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester
Sent: Oct 1, 2009 6:21 PM

Don't know.  Piper never intended for their planes to have alcohol in
them.  That may very well be the reason why Steve Glover says not to use
it.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:01 -0700 "Fred Johnson" 
writes:
> How well will it hold up to alcohol?
> 
> 
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV

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KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[jscott.pi...@juno.com]

Don't know.  Piper never intended for their planes to have alcohol in
them.  That may very well be the reason why Steve Glover says not to use
it.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:01 -0700 "Fred Johnson" 
writes:
> How well will it hold up to alcohol?
> 
> 
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV

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KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[n92...@cox.net]

Do not use polyester for fuel tanks. Vinylester or a good epoxy only. Even 
better if you coat them with the same stuff Lancair uses. It will ensure you 
will not have any leaks. 

Steve Glover
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Subject: KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester
Sent: Oct 1, 2009 3:48 PM

Can anyone tell me if Polyester will work on a fuel tank application? Or is
Vinylester the only medium for a fuel tank?

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV




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KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[Fred Johnson]

How well will it hold up to alcohol?


Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



Jeff Scott wrote:

Polyester should work just fine.  That's what Piper used to build the tip
tanks on the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6.  Polyester has it's difficulties
in certain applications, but it works quite well for a fuel tank.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

Can anyone tell me if Polyester will work on a fuel tank application? Or is
Vinylester the only medium for a fuel tank?

KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[Jeff Scott]

Fred,

Polyester should work just fine.  That's what Piper used to build the tip tanks 
on the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6.  Polyester has it's difficulties in certain 
applications, but it works quite well for a fuel tank.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


Can anyone tell me if Polyester will work on a fuel tank application? Or is
Vinylester the only medium for a fuel tank?

Fred Johnson
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KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester

[Fred Johnson]

Can anyone tell me if Polyester will work on a fuel tank application? Or is
Vinylester the only medium for a fuel tank?

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV

KR> KRII For Sale

[Steve]

Hello All,



I'm having to put my KR2 up for sale due to recent health problems that are
going to prevent me from flying. The plane had 100 hours of air time before
it was ground looped. Myself and a retired A have been working on the
repairs which include minor cowling damage and a cracked canopy.  We bought
a new engine and  took the front landing gear off to convert it to tricycle
configuration but have not removed the tail wheel set up. The project comes
with everything to get the plane back in the air including the following:



New Revmaster 2100 Engine

Two wood props / Aluminum spinner

Revmaster Engine mount

Two canopies plus the original one 

Two sets of upper and lower engine cowls 

8 Gal Aluminum Wing tank with all fittings and electric fuel pump

A set of flaps and hardware to install them 

New upholstered seats and side covers with pockets

Landing lights (wiring already in the wings)

All avionics- including Narco Transponder, Radio, certified Attitude
Indicator, Turn/Slip Indicator, Altimeter, Air speed, Suction, Tach, plus
all engine related gages.

Two headsets with dual intercom 

All fiberglass, Carbon fiber, epoxy, and misc. fillers to complete the
repairs.





I'm asking $4900 obo for the whole lot. (The new engine is worth $5000 and
the extra instruments and parts are worth another $2000 as is).



I will throw in a Samsung Ultra Q Tablet computer with  Electronic Hard
drive for and Extra $500. It is dash or yoke mountable and has the free APIC
Fight Software  but can handle any flight software. (I paid $1500)





The Plane is in Escondido, CA. (North San Diego) and you can see it on
http://talkdocskr2project.blogspot.com/



You can e-mail me with any questions at talkdo...@sbcglobal.net



Thanks,



Steve Renfeldt

KR> Joe Beyer's Gathering Photos

[Marty Martin]

John

I went onto you classified site and found some things that I would like to
get more information on.  I used the information shown to contact them and
it all came back as undeliverable.  The one was for a KR2 project that had
some pictures of Roger Reese.  No phone number.  The other was for David
Hartz.  I called both numbers and no luck and a returned email as
undeliverable.

You got an more information on them.

Cheers

Greg Martin

KR> KRSuper2 Builder

[Dave McCauley]

Nice to see some interest in this machine.



There are a hardy few of us following in Scott Watts footsteps and having
fun figuring out how to build a brand new design.  Remember, the reason
we’re “home builders” is because we like the challenge of actually creating
an airplane ourselves. 



I’m having a blast and learning new techniques almost every day.  I haven’t
taken the time add up my spending so far but it’s been pretty modest.  Foam,
epoxy and fiberglass are pretty easy to work with, about on par with wood so
it will take me about as long to build as a KR2S.



I live in Minnesota (50º out right now) so I work in my garage during the
warm months and do small stuff in my basement over the winter (I’ve just
finished moving downstairs).  The main fuselage and horizontal stabilizer
are done.  I hope to have the wing ribs finished by spring and will build
the main spar once I can get back in the garage.



Look at Scott’s web site to see more about the plane.



Dave McCauley

KR> (no subject)

[STEVE bennett]

Concerning  lifter bores, cannot the Corvair lifter bore be honed oversized and 
rebushed?

Steve Bennett





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KR> KRSuper2

[Jim Sellars]

KR-2 Flyers;
There are KR-2s available that can fly right now for less money.  Full VFR
instruments and radio with GPS low hours and ready to fly.  Call me off line
at the number below and we can arrange to get you lots of details if you
like.  We could even have it shipped to your door very cheap as well.  There
is no duty of tax on aircraft parts and pieces across borders in North
America, as you know.  With currency advantages still favouring the US
consumer you could make a very favourable deal.
Best regards,
Jim   

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-Original Message-
From: Mark Wegmet [mailto:markweg...@charter.net] 
Sent: September 30, 2009 10:07 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> KRSuper2

If you are going to go through all that... better a Glassair III RG or FG
with Wankel (Mazda) or Lancair Legacy with IO550... proven performers by any
definition. You can pick up projects that are 40 - 70% complete of the
Glassair or Lancair for what Solly says you'll spend on a KR now. I bought
an "abandoned" KR2 project and my "ready to fly" (minimal VFR) budget is
about 10 - 13K (have spent less than 2K so far with 25% completed airframe,
corvair with the right numbers, some steam gauges, plans, etc.). Long way to
go though.

Mark W.
N952MW

Solly Melyon wrote

Hello David,
My first airplane was a KR2.  Like most of us the reason was because it was
a pretty little airplane for very little money.  It was twitchy but I
managed to fly and enjoy it for a while until I felt that I want something
with more utility and better stability. That was 20 years ago.
In reality, the KR2 is a fairly complex aircraft to build.  It takes most
builders 2000 hours to finish.
It is not inexpensive any more.  You'll spend over $20,000 and more likely
$25,000 to $30,000 for a 


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KR> Joe Beyer's Gathering Photos

[John Bouyea]

Hi Sal.

I posted Joe Beyer's photos here; http://www.bouyea.net
  Click the 2009 Gathering Photos link on the left
side.



Cheers.

John Bouyea

KR2/ KR2S 

Hillsboro, Oregon



Sal Leone writes

Are there any more photos of the 2009 KR MVN Gathering other than Glenda
Mcelwee's. Thank You