KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace
Yes, it was a shocker and I apologise for having a bad day down here and to everyone, especially Mark L for violating the etiquette. I will endeavor to restrain myself more in future. However, over the years I have been on this site have seen increasing amounts of this sort of thing. In my view there is no place for religious zealotry on this site. It would be easy for many of us to espouse our views in this respect and clog up the system for good..but we don't. Similarly I think it is inappropriate to introduce un-researched idealistic design changes that have dangerous implications for any who may choose to copy. There are numerous implications of drop tanks on stall, centre of gravity, spar loading, side slip uncovering ports, venting, ground clearance, drag and air flow over the flaps, ailerons and tail. I suspect most of us are insufficiently qualified to even begin thinking about these matters. There are many KRs flying and none need such tanks as far as I know. So Craig, if you're going to do it please get expert advice and when you have it come back and talk from a more learned base. I think you'll find most will advise against it. Folks, please talk about KR construction and not God or drop tanks on Sea Furys..in other words stick to what is real and achievable. I would also like to thank those of you who have privately indicated support for what I said. John Martindale 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 6658 4767 mobile: 0403 432179 email: john_martind...@bigpond.com _ From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Craig Williams Sent: Saturday, 23 October 2010 12:25 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace Well that's not very nice. Having a bad day down under are we? LOL --- On Fri, 10/22/10, John Martindale wrote: From: John Martindale Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace To: "'KRnet'" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 11:41 AM Piss off mate and the same to those who want to install drop tanks. John Martindale 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 6658 4767 mobile: 0403 432179 email: john_martind...@bigpond.com _ From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 9:54 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace God's Grace What is mentioned here appears to be a shame, but the message is very true. I hope you are all blessed by this story. I wonder how many people will delete this without reading it because of the title. There once was a man named George Thomas, a pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning, he came to the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage and set it by the pulpit. Eyebrows were raised and as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak . . . "I was walking through town yesterday when I saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, "What do you have there, son?" "Just some old birds," came the reply. "What are you going to do with them?" I asked. "Take 'em home and have fun with 'em," he answered. "I'm gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em fight. I'm gonna have a real good time." "But you'll get tired of those birds sooner or later. What will you do then?" "Oh, I've got some cats," said the little boy. "They like birds. I'll take 'em to them." The pastor was silent for a moment. "How much do you want for those birds, son?" "Huh?! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing. They ain't even pretty!" "How much?" the pastor asked again. The boy sized up the pastor as if he were crazy and said,"Ten dollars?" The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars, persuaded the birds out, setting them free. So, that explained the empty bird cage on the pulpit, and then the pa
KR> Exhaust headers
mbz...@comcast.net (no other information given) wrote: > Among all the distractions, I hope no one minds that i get a bit of topic > and start talking about aircraft conversions > I was wondering why so far I did not see any headers on corvair engines. I can't speak for everybody else, but I can tell you why I don't do what I think you probably mean to say, which is "tuned headers". I spent a really inordinate amount of time building a set of 321 stainless headers, put $400 in material alone, and it took me almost forever to do it. Stainless is tough stuff! Mild steel would have been easier (and apparently lasts just about as long), but even so, all those bends and extra welds would have tripled the effort. Andthere's simply not enough room. The simple straight exhaust I made is just absolutely all that will fit under my engine cowling, and anything more would have cost another couple of inches, not to mention a few more pounds, megabucks more in material, and triple the time. And five percent more power only buys you a very few miles per hour for the effort. Attention paid to aerodynamic details would likely pay far more dividends (not that I've taken advantage of those either!). I hope y'all understand why I "slack" much of the time, and there's often a pretty good reason... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> Exhaust headres
Among all the distractions, I hope no one minds that i get a bit of topic and start talking about aircraft conversions I was wondering why so far I did not see any headers on corvair engines. On cars, headers accounted for up to 5% increase in horse power. What is the reason why the same can not be true for aircraft conversions? I guess at cruise the exhaust gases are efficiently evacuated and maybe headers will not give much of an increase in hp. But still I think it would be a benefit for the weight at take-off and climb. And also would increase the smoothness of the engine. Looking at the exhaust examples, I wonder if the exhaust really is tuned for the engine, or can the back-pressure be smoothed out.
KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 352, Issue 296
Amen! This a KR forum, I'm begging you guys! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: krnet-requ...@mylist.net Sender: krnet-boun...@mylist.net List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:00:27 To: Reply-To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 352, Issue 296 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to kr...@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-requ...@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-ow...@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace (John Martindale) 2. RE: Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace (Craig Williams) 3. RE: Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace (Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210) 4. Re: Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace (Seibert Family) 5. Installing a BRS parachute (Craig Williams) 6. Re: Installing a BRS parachute (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 7. Fw: Cubbing (Mark Langford) -- Message: 1 List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:41:45 +1100 From: "John Martindale" Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Piss off mate and the same to those who want to install drop tanks. John Martindale 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 6658 4767 mobile: 0403 432179 email: john_martind...@bigpond.com _ From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 9:54 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace God's Grace What is mentioned here appears to be a shame, but the message is very true. I hope you are all blessed by this story. I wonder how many people will delete this without reading it because of the title. There once was a man named George Thomas, a pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning, he came to the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage and set it by the pulpit. Eyebrows were raised and as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak . . . "I was walking through town yesterday when I saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, "What do you have there, son?" "Just some old birds," came the reply. "What are you going to do with them?" I asked. "Take 'em home and have fun with 'em," he answered. "I'm gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em fight. I'm gonna have a real good time." "But you'll get tired of those birds sooner or later. What will you do then?" "Oh, I've got some cats," said the little boy. "They like birds. I'll take 'em to them." The pastor was silent for a moment. "How much do you want for those birds, son?" "Huh?! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing. They ain't even pretty!" "How much?" the pastor asked again. The boy sized up the pastor as if he were crazy and said,"Ten dollars?" The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars, persuaded the birds out, setting them free. So, that explained the empty bird cage on the pulpit, and then the pastor began to tell another story. One day Satan and Jesus were having a conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting. "Yes, sir, I just caught a world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!" "What are you going to do with them?" Jesus asked. Satan replied,"Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm gonna teach them how t
KR> Digital Inboard Wing Template (RAF)?
Hey Jon, I sent you a copy of the airfoil. If anyone else is interested, here is the airfoil coordinate set. RAF-48 AIRFOIL 1.0 0.0 0.95000 0.01005 0.9 0.01950 0.8 0.04020 0.7 0.06050 0.6 0.07940 0.5 0.09380 0.4 0.10200 0.3 0.10400 0.2 0.09530 0.15000 0.08630 0.1 0.07300 0.07500 0.06390 0.05000 0.05200 0.02500 0.03650 0.01250 0.02600 0.0 0.0 0.01250 -0.01650 0.02500 -0.02340 0.05000 -0.03160 0.07500 -0.03690 0.1 -0.04030 0.15000 -0.04410 0.2 -0.04580 0.3 -0.04560 0.4 -0.04330 0.5 -0.03900 0.6 -0.03360 0.7 -0.02650 0.8 -0.01830 0.9 -0.01000 0.95000 -0.00640 1.0 0.0 Cheers. Peter Bancks Ballina, Oz. On 24/10/2010 02:27, Jon Finley wrote: > Does anyone have a digital version of the Inboard Wing Template (or a link) > for the original airfoil? > > > > Yes, I do have the paper version and I do know how to do the copy, cut, > align, paste thing. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon Finley > > N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 > > http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx
KR> Cubbing
I guess the secret is out. This is why Richard and I do not mind our cross country trips to the Gathering. Amazing trips Steve Glover www.nvaero.com steve.glo...@nvaero.com
KR> Diehl Main Gear?
Well, yes and no actually. The same castings are used but the contour of the leg is different. The axle position in relation to the gear leg is a moved by about a couple inches depending on the leg used. Steve Glover www.nVaero.com steve.glo...@nvaero.com -Original Message- Is the same Diehl Main Gear used for both the tail-dragger and nose-dragger (yes, tricycle) configurations (one mounted to the front of the spar and the other on the aft face)?
KR> Fw: Cubbing
Mart, thank you for sharing this with us. I have it on my desk top. My wife and I made a trip this year to eastern CO and south to Taos ,Los Cruses, Tucson and thru Utah to home with very few pictures. Never again. Not meaning the trip but no photo's. We had our 172 but we may do a trip in our 120 next year. la...@lebanair.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:37 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Fw: Cubbing NetHeads, John Backer forwarded this to me. These pictures are awesome. This does it...I'm flying out West soon. Check it out... Subject: Fw: Cubbing Truly take the TIME to see all these wonderful photographs... from AZ to NY.. from a Piper Cub. Great views of America from the air. And I love the captions! Some of you will see your 'home states'.. (you Hawks and Huskers!) Very cool images! Enjoy. Dick http://www.vintageflying.com/page24.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Diehl Main Gear?
> >Is the same Diehl Main Gear used for both the tail-dragger and nose-dragger >(yes, tricycle) configurations (one mounted to the front of the spar and the >other on the aft face)? >I am asking as I have the Diehl Main Gear setup for a nose-dragger. I would >kinda like to change it to a tail-dragger. I think this is as simple (knock >on wood) as removing the gear, swapping sides, and mounting it to the >forward face of the spar. >Jon Finley + Yes and yes.. Larry Flesner
KR> Digital Inboard Wing Template (RAF)?
Does anyone have a digital version of the Inboard Wing Template (or a link) for the original airfoil? Yes, I do have the paper version and I do know how to do the copy, cut, align, paste thing. Thanks, Jon Finley N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx
KR> Diehl Main Gear?
Howdy, This seems to be a really dumb question since I cannot find reference to it in the archives but I have to ask anyway. Is the same Diehl Main Gear used for both the tail-dragger and nose-dragger (yes, tricycle) configurations (one mounted to the front of the spar and the other on the aft face)? I am asking as I have the Diehl Main Gear setup for a nose-dragger. I would kinda like to change it to a tail-dragger. I think this is as simple (knock on wood) as removing the gear, swapping sides, and mounting it to the forward face of the spar. Appreciate comments. Thanks, Jon Finley N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx
KR> Kr2 List?
Please...please...trim the message you are responding to so that we don't have to keep scrolling through the repeated messages. If you don't know how or don't know what I'm talking about I'm sure someone on the list will give you tech supportand...uh...let's talk about airplanes. Dick Hartwig Waunakee WI
KR> Cubbing
Dan Heath wrote: > will make a round trip out west one day in my KR... Maybe when Steve > hosts the KR Gathering. > > One of my motivations is to fly out to California . I want to fly into Santa Monica Airport and Van Nuys, both places I lived. Step Dad worked at The Douglas plant in SM and I loved to spend time watching the planes at Van Nuys when I lived in the San Fernando Valley. Oh Yes...Flying into Catalina Island is on that list too!! Talk about your $100 dollar hamburger! -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> Cubbing
So, was it the gorgeous sunsets, the beautiful sunrises, or the Cow tied to the prop oOOPS, thinking of the wrong Mark... I will make a round trip out west one day in my KR... Maybe when Steve hosts the KR Gathering. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN There is a time for building and it never seems to end. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- These pictures are awesome. This does it...I'm flying out West soon
KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace
Right after you :-) CldLk-Tim Never Sucking-up - Original Message - From: "Seibert Family" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:10 AM Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace Everyone ! READ the rules and do what they say PLEASE. Or get off the forum. Sorry Mark for the outburst. On 10/22/2010 9:58 AM, Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210 wrote: > How about we just get back to talking about airplanes. > Rodney > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html