KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Robert Wood]

Mark. I just bought a tail wheel just like yours from Aviation  
Products Inc. but haven't been able to locate
a tail spring for it. Where did you get yours?

Bob
Building a KR2s

KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Larry Knox]

Ya, and the air is dry and the people friendly and a damn site fewer of
them. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of oceanmanus
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:08 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Glad to hear your OK. You need to move your operation to North Texas where
the 
rent is cheap.

Joe Cygan




From: I FLY KRs 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:23:56 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Those pics pretty well sum up my past couple weeks.  The large hangars
midfield in the bottom of the horse shoe is where we were located.  We ended
up with about 9' of water.  I received the call about 1:30 in the afternoon.
After renting two 26' u-haul trucks and a flatbed, we worked until about
4:30 in the morning getting as much as we could.  Both trucks were packed to
the gills, KR-1 put on the flatbed, and the Clausing lathe and Bridgeport
mill made it out.  All the molds, much tooling and supplies, as well as 3
airframes remained.  We came back a couple hours later and were turned away
as water was already in our hangar.  

I was able to walk in today.  About 2 - 3 inches of muck and mud remains.
The KR-100, the new KR-2S fuselage, and a few molds, including a set of
center section skins that are ready to be pulled from the molds were
untouched by water.  The new design light sport airframe we were building is
shot so we will have to start over and probably will not make it to
Sun-N-Fun with it like we had hoped.  Most of the remaining mold were in the
water but fortunately look like they will clean up well.  There were a few
tools and parts I thought had made it into the truck that were found in
various places of the hangar.  I had a new Bosch drill/ driver that
apparently was left on one of our fabrication tables.  Somehow it escaped
unscathed and works perfect.  It seems that particular table floated and
never submerged.  Our fuselage table and glass cutting table weren't so
lucky.  We will have to build new ones.

We had been diligently working on the final plugs/ molds for the new AS-5046
airfoil, center section, and 009 tail group. I am happy to say those were
all loaded and safely stowed away in the U-hauls.  

This is the second major flood in 5 years at Corona.  The past couple years
we had the threat of flood but it never happened.  The Army Corps of
Engineers had modified Prado Dam so many of us thought the flooding issue
had been finally resolved so there was a false sense of security with most
of us I think.  Now that we are producing parts and kits for the KR, as a
company we cannot afford this type of damage or losses.  Just the move so
far has cost us about $3500 and that does not include losses from parts/
machinery, or tooling.  I figure the total hit will fall around $25k.  In
light of all this we have relocated our facility to Chino (CNO), which is
about another 10 minute drive.  Corona was about a 30 minute drive for us
from home so now we are looking at least 40 minutes depending on traffic.
There is a lot of activity at Chino and several businesses that will be
beneficial to have access to.  While I prefer Corona overall Chino is by the
far the best choice from a business standpoint. 

The hangar is a bit smaller at the new location than what we had at Corona
but we are still planning a build out with a classroom/ pilot lounge with a
full bath and kitchenette for events or builder workshops.  Once we are
built out we will have a Saturday morning breakfast club for those
interested in building their first few parts with factory support. New
builders will be able to gain some hands on experience and build confidence
to complete their projects.  If any of you are ever in the area, feel free
to stop in.  It is always best to give us a call so we know to expect you.

Regards,

Steve Glover 




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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Larry Knox]

Steve , so sorry about the flood. Starting a business is a tough proposition
and you sure don't need that on top of it. I didn't realize you were in our
part of the USofA. Even though I have to sell my KRs we will make sure and
stop as we go thru this winter (hopefully) and see you location and
projects. 
We have been thru there several times in the past 2 years and gives us
another destination. Again, sorry, la...@lebanair.com 
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:46 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Same from the North Steve...Aussie's are describing there present 
flooding Downunder as Biblical

CldLk-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "phillip matheson" 
Steve

Sorry to hear of your water damage and interruption to your business.

All the best from down under.



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KR> Seat Clearance

[smwood]

Yet another ripple when changing to a tri-gear configuration: The landing 
gear brackets and gear legs are bolted to the rear of the main spar.  Now 
need more room to clear the aileron push rods at the gear brackets.  So, 
rigged the push rods at the stick to be further aft.  Everything looks good, 
no scraping or binding.  Until I sat in the RR sling seat, then the tension 
causes the seat sling to rub on the aileron push rods.  To fix that I am 
copying the several fiber glass seat pans so generously displayed on the 
KRnet to get clearance for the push rods.  The ripples just go on and on.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

KR> Need 4" prop ext

[Virgil Salisbury]

 Pic and price of the one you cannot use, Virg


 On 1/1/2011 9:48 PM, Jose Fuentes wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I made a big mistake and have this ext that I purchased and realized its
> totally wrong, though I purchased it like months back so no getting my money
> back.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32020630=7f2837ef9b=1106895076
>
> Note how big the one on the left is (hole) vs the one on the right:
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=32020632=f516d17090=1106895076
>
>
> Looking to trade for a 4" with the smaller hole (AN6-)
>
> Or if someone wants to buy this one as I need the smaller version.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>

KR> New old KR Gathering photos

[Virgil Salisbury]

 Bob, when were we at Perry, Oklahoma? Also I think that you scanned 
the pics
 at too high a resolution. 640x480 is the best you can send over the 
internet. Try
 one, you might like it, Virg


 On 1/1/2011 6:11 AM, Bob Lee wrote:
> KRnuts,
>
> For the few of you that are old enough to remember the last century, I made
> a discovery this weekend while searching through the basement for old
> photographs.  A while back someone had asked about Don Beachum's retract
> system.  I knew that I had taken some shots of his plane at a KR Gathering
> in a previous century.  Over the holiday break I got the machine from my dad
> to convert film to digital images and went hunting for the photos of Don's
> plane.  I haven't found those photos yet but I did run across photos from
> the 1986 Tulsa, OK KR Gathering, the 1988 and 1989 Covington TN KR
> Gatherings, the 1990 Rough River State Park KY KR Gathering, and the 2001
> Pine Bluff AK KR Gatherings.  These photos have been uploaded to
> krgathering.org.  They have been added to the links at the bottom of the
> home page.  You can scroll down to the bottom to find them.
>
> You will see that there is a note asterisked (*) to these links stating:
> "Photo quality for these Gatherings (1986 through 2001) are not too good.  I
> found the photos in a box in the basement in 2010 and converted them to
> digital images from the original film.  It might be good enough to jog the
> memory of some of us old timers about Gatherings gone by."
>
> Just in case some of you are wondering, there are only 250 days till the
> 2011 KR Gathering in Mount Vernon, IL on September 9-10, 2011!
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Bob Lee
> N52BL  KR2
> Suwanee, GA  USA
> 92% done only 67% to go!
>
>
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KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[jmelvin...@aol.com]

Dene,

You hit the head of the nail perfectly.

John
El Paso


In a message dated 1/4/2011 3:42:31 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
av...@telkomsa.net writes:

Guys
John Finlay mentions the addition of an in-flight adjustable  prop to use 
in 
conjunction with your turbo.
The way I understand it,  the motor that has a turbo with the waist gate 
set 
to X manifold pressure  will produce Y power regardless of it's altitude 
(at 
a fixed throttle  setting). How do you prevent over revving the motor at 
altitude and still  use the extra power that the turbo produces without an 
in-flight  adjustible prop? Sure you could set the manifold pressure lower 
or 
run at  a lower throttle setting but that negates using the turbo in the 
first  place
To me, using a turbo without an in-flight adjustable prop is not  worth the 
effort and expense. Am I missing  something?

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port  Elizabeth
South Africa


- Original Message - 
From:  "Jon Finley" 
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject:  RE: KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question


5. Allows  you to add all sorts of new things to your wish list (oxygen 
system,  in-flight adjustable prop, electrically heated seats, etc...).

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru  EJ-22

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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Scott]

Feel for you Steve.  Where at Chino are you located?



On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:08 AM, oceanmanus  wrote:

> Glad to hear your OK. You need to move your operation to North Texas where 
> the 
> rent is cheap.
> 
> Joe Cygan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: I FLY KRs 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:23:56 AM
> Subject: RE: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?
> 
> Those pics pretty well sum up my past couple weeks.  The large hangars
> midfield in the bottom of the horse shoe is where we were located.  We ended
> up with about 9' of water.  I received the call about 1:30 in the afternoon.
> After renting two 26' u-haul trucks and a flatbed, we worked until about
> 4:30 in the morning getting as much as we could.  Both trucks were packed to
> the gills, KR-1 put on the flatbed, and the Clausing lathe and Bridgeport
> mill made it out.  All the molds, much tooling and supplies, as well as 3
> airframes remained.  We came back a couple hours later and were turned away
> as water was already in our hangar.  
> 
> I was able to walk in today.  About 2 - 3 inches of muck and mud remains.
> The KR-100, the new KR-2S fuselage, and a few molds, including a set of
> center section skins that are ready to be pulled from the molds were
> untouched by water.  The new design light sport airframe we were building is
> shot so we will have to start over and probably will not make it to
> Sun-N-Fun with it like we had hoped.  Most of the remaining mold were in the
> water but fortunately look like they will clean up well.  There were a few
> tools and parts I thought had made it into the truck that were found in
> various places of the hangar.  I had a new Bosch drill/ driver that
> apparently was left on one of our fabrication tables.  Somehow it escaped
> unscathed and works perfect.  It seems that particular table floated and
> never submerged.  Our fuselage table and glass cutting table weren't so
> lucky.  We will have to build new ones.
> 
> We had been diligently working on the final plugs/ molds for the new AS-5046
> airfoil, center section, and 009 tail group. I am happy to say those were
> all loaded and safely stowed away in the U-hauls.  
> 
> This is the second major flood in 5 years at Corona.  The past couple years
> we had the threat of flood but it never happened.  The Army Corps of
> Engineers had modified Prado Dam so many of us thought the flooding issue
> had been finally resolved so there was a false sense of security with most
> of us I think.  Now that we are producing parts and kits for the KR, as a
> company we cannot afford this type of damage or losses.  Just the move so
> far has cost us about $3500 and that does not include losses from parts/
> machinery, or tooling.  I figure the total hit will fall around $25k.  In
> light of all this we have relocated our facility to Chino (CNO), which is
> about another 10 minute drive.  Corona was about a 30 minute drive for us
> from home so now we are looking at least 40 minutes depending on traffic.
> There is a lot of activity at Chino and several businesses that will be
> beneficial to have access to.  While I prefer Corona overall Chino is by the
> far the best choice from a business standpoint. 
> 
> The hangar is a bit smaller at the new location than what we had at Corona
> but we are still planning a build out with a classroom/ pilot lounge with a
> full bath and kitchenette for events or builder workshops.  Once we are
> built out we will have a Saturday morning breakfast club for those
> interested in building their first few parts with factory support. New
> builders will be able to gain some hands on experience and build confidence
> to complete their projects.  If any of you are ever in the area, feel free
> to stop in.  It is always best to give us a call so we know to expect you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Glover 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[Dj Merrill]

On 01/04/2011 10:35 AM, Jose Fuentes wrote:
> That's very true, it does make sense to have in in-flight adjustable prop.
> That way it can be adjusted, it's a good point.


I happen to have an in-flight adjustable prop for sale (Vari-Prop VP-1)
that was bought for a KR, if anyone is interested:

http://deej.net/forsale/

-Dj

-- 
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Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/

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KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[Jose Fuentes]

That's very true, it does make sense to have in in-flight adjustable prop.
That way it can be adjusted, it's a good point.

I've seen this one as a thought but heard a few bad things about it, but the
bad things were based on years ago issues, would a company still sell
something if they hadn't worked out those issues (maybe I'm naive)?
http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightmediummodel.htm

Though not your standard type adjustable prop but lighter maybe?

Anyways good point and another item to think about when going turbo.

Joe
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Dene Collett  wrote:

> Guys
> John Finlay mentions the addition of an in-flight adjustable prop to use in
> conjunction with your turbo.
> The way I understand it, the motor that has a turbo with the waist gate set
> to X manifold pressure will produce Y power regardless of it's altitude (at
> a fixed throttle setting). How do you prevent over revving the motor at
> altitude and still use the extra power that the turbo produces without an
> in-flight adjustible prop? Sure you could set the manifold pressure lower
> or
> run at a lower throttle setting but that negates using the turbo in the
> first place
> To me, using a turbo without an in-flight adjustable prop is not worth the
> effort and expense. Am I missing something?
>
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jon Finley" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:47 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question
>
>
> 5. Allows you to add all sorts of new things to your wish list (oxygen
> system, in-flight adjustable prop, electrically heated seats, etc...).
>
>  Jon Finley
> N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22
>
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Group
Former Microsoft MVP
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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[oceanmanus]

Glad to hear your OK. You need to move your operation to North Texas where the 
rent is cheap.

Joe Cygan




From: I FLY KRs 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:23:56 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Those pics pretty well sum up my past couple weeks.  The large hangars
midfield in the bottom of the horse shoe is where we were located.  We ended
up with about 9' of water.  I received the call about 1:30 in the afternoon.
After renting two 26' u-haul trucks and a flatbed, we worked until about
4:30 in the morning getting as much as we could.  Both trucks were packed to
the gills, KR-1 put on the flatbed, and the Clausing lathe and Bridgeport
mill made it out.  All the molds, much tooling and supplies, as well as 3
airframes remained.  We came back a couple hours later and were turned away
as water was already in our hangar.  

I was able to walk in today.  About 2 - 3 inches of muck and mud remains.
The KR-100, the new KR-2S fuselage, and a few molds, including a set of
center section skins that are ready to be pulled from the molds were
untouched by water.  The new design light sport airframe we were building is
shot so we will have to start over and probably will not make it to
Sun-N-Fun with it like we had hoped.  Most of the remaining mold were in the
water but fortunately look like they will clean up well.  There were a few
tools and parts I thought had made it into the truck that were found in
various places of the hangar.  I had a new Bosch drill/ driver that
apparently was left on one of our fabrication tables.  Somehow it escaped
unscathed and works perfect.  It seems that particular table floated and
never submerged.  Our fuselage table and glass cutting table weren't so
lucky.  We will have to build new ones.

We had been diligently working on the final plugs/ molds for the new AS-5046
airfoil, center section, and 009 tail group. I am happy to say those were
all loaded and safely stowed away in the U-hauls.  

This is the second major flood in 5 years at Corona.  The past couple years
we had the threat of flood but it never happened.  The Army Corps of
Engineers had modified Prado Dam so many of us thought the flooding issue
had been finally resolved so there was a false sense of security with most
of us I think.  Now that we are producing parts and kits for the KR, as a
company we cannot afford this type of damage or losses.  Just the move so
far has cost us about $3500 and that does not include losses from parts/
machinery, or tooling.  I figure the total hit will fall around $25k.  In
light of all this we have relocated our facility to Chino (CNO), which is
about another 10 minute drive.  Corona was about a 30 minute drive for us
from home so now we are looking at least 40 minutes depending on traffic.
There is a lot of activity at Chino and several businesses that will be
beneficial to have access to.  While I prefer Corona overall Chino is by the
far the best choice from a business standpoint. 

The hangar is a bit smaller at the new location than what we had at Corona
but we are still planning a build out with a classroom/ pilot lounge with a
full bath and kitchenette for events or builder workshops.  Once we are
built out we will have a Saturday morning breakfast club for those
interested in building their first few parts with factory support. New
builders will be able to gain some hands on experience and build confidence
to complete their projects.  If any of you are ever in the area, feel free
to stop in.  It is always best to give us a call so we know to expect you.

Regards,

Steve Glover 




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KR> Re: To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[smwood]

On the discussion thread there were several comments on proper mixture 
control being needed for turbo installations.  If your carb has a mixture 
control, that is dirt simple to do with a mixture meter installation.  More 
info can be found at http://14point7.com/SLC-Pure-Plus.php
I will tell you more about it during the forums at the Gathering in 
September.

Sid Wood
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Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

KR> spruce vs other woods

[Tim]

Spruce Goose was primarily built from Birch not SpruceEAA has info & 
Book's on types grades and research into different types/species for 
building.

CldLk-Tim


- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick and Robin Russo" 


Yes, I have used pine to do a wood/fabric L-19 look-alike. Incidently, there
is a major kit supplier that uses clear southern pine in their light
sircraft. I have also built a KR-2 with locally cut spruce careful to use
the staightest grain and zero knots. On a 2nd KR I also went to the local
lumber yard and spent the afternoon going thru the stacks of construction
grade spruce 2x8's etc pulling out the odd knot free and straight grain
board. When the grain was not as straight as I like, I re-sawed  the boards
and laminated them to their best advantage. I once found a stash of redwood
as staight and close grained as I ever saw, and built a set of wings for
another, as yet unfinished, aircraftbut not before I experimented with
it, building two blue grass F-5 mandolins. They proved to be every bit as
strong as the usual spruce topped instruments but lacked the tone quality.
Mahogany... 

KR> spruce vs other woods

[Patrick and Robin Russo]

Yes, I have used pine to do a wood/fabric L-19 look-alike. Incidently, there 
is a major kit supplier that uses clear southern pine in their light 
sircraft. I have also built a KR-2 with locally cut spruce careful to use 
the staightest grain and zero knots. On a 2nd KR I also went to the local 
lumber yard and spent the afternoon going thru the stacks of construction 
grade spruce 2x8's etc pulling out the odd knot free and straight grain 
board. When the grain was not as straight as I like, I re-sawed  the boards 
and laminated them to their best advantage. I once found a stash of redwood 
as staight and close grained as I ever saw, and built a set of wings for 
another, as yet unfinished, aircraftbut not before I experimented with 
it, building two blue grass F-5 mandolins. They proved to be every bit as 
strong as the usual spruce topped instruments but lacked the tone quality. 
Mahogany is another great wood to work with if you can get straight and 
close grain stock i.e. quarter sawn. This is occasionally available but you 
have to spend a day going thru the suppliers stacks. Finally, I have three 
projects in my shop right now, 2 of which are being built with Douglas Fir. 
I found the fir at a local hardwood supplier for cabinet makers. It was 
being sold as exterior porch flooring. It is a bit stronger than spruce but 
also 10% heavier. I am using this to make a 70% scale AT-6 Texan and a wood 
copy of Molt Taylors (Aluminum) Mini-Imp. This has a dramatically curved 
fuselage so the longerons had to be done as laminations. Surprisingly I once 
saw a great selection of both fir and clear pine at HOME DEPOT building 
supplier.  In summary, you do have options.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Stowers" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: KR> spruce vs other woods


>I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation 
>projects instead of spruce. Spruce is getting hard to obtain at reasonable 
>prices and there are other woods that are stronger, but a little heavier. I 
>am looking at a larger engine so I think the weight issue could be balanced 
>off.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> David Stowers
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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Tim]

Same from the North Steve...Aussie's are describing there present 
flooding Downunder as Biblical

CldLk-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "phillip matheson" 
Steve

Sorry to hear of your water damage and interruption to your business.

All the best from down under.

KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question

[Dene Collett]

Guys
John Finlay mentions the addition of an in-flight adjustable prop to use in 
conjunction with your turbo.
The way I understand it, the motor that has a turbo with the waist gate set 
to X manifold pressure will produce Y power regardless of it's altitude (at 
a fixed throttle setting). How do you prevent over revving the motor at 
altitude and still use the extra power that the turbo produces without an 
in-flight adjustible prop? Sure you could set the manifold pressure lower or 
run at a lower throttle setting but that negates using the turbo in the 
first place
To me, using a turbo without an in-flight adjustable prop is not worth the 
effort and expense. Am I missing something?

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth
South Africa


- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Finley" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: KR> To Turbo or not to Turbo that is the Question


5. Allows you to add all sorts of new things to your wish list (oxygen 
system, in-flight adjustable prop, electrically heated seats, etc...).

  Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22

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KR> interesting ebay item

[Craig Williams]

>From the pics the work looks nicely done.  To small for me that's why I picked 
>the KR2S.


Item number: 190486580284 under Project/Experimental Aircraft