KR> wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread Oscar Zuniga

You can do whatever you want to the verticals in the wing spars, you can extend 
the stub spars or the outer spars, you can beef up the wing attach fittings, 
change the wings and wingtips- but I believe prior analysis has shown that the 
weak point in the whole thing is the connection right at the spar and the 
fuselage and that is where the maximum moment will occur on a cantilevered 
wing.  Increase the load that the spar has to carry and you need to increase 
its ability to transfer that moment to or from the fuselage.  If you don't, the 
wings fold up without you asking them to.

With the stock wing spar depth and flanges, you simply must respect the 
designer's stated max gross weight for the aircraft or look for something else 
to build and fly.  Oh, I guess there is also the option of designing a 
different spar.

Somebody shoot me down here... aero engineers, please... I don't own a KR, have 
never built one, and don't even own a set of plans so I'm not sure what I'm 
even doing here.

Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"
Medford, OR

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KR> Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread cgardn628
Craig,

My KR2S has a 25 1/2 foot span because of my added wingtip shape.

At 250lbs. you will probably find the cockpit awfully small for you on the
KR2.

Chris G. - KR2S 250 hours C-GKRZ

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Subject: KR> Wingspan

I have been reading in the archives about the RAF48 wing span and loading.
I see that Garry Morgan's KR2SS had
a span of 27 feet.  Was wondering if anyone stateside had gone this big.
The reason I ask is I think to get the
useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I
would do this by adding 36 inches
to the stub wings.

Craig
www,kr2seafury.com


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KR> Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread Craig Williams
If I can't make its 2 place then it's for sale.



- Original Message -
From: Virgil N. Salisbury 
To: KRnet 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Wingspan


    You have a great single place aircraft, Virg

    On 10/11/2011 9:51 AM, Teate, Stephen wrote:
> "The reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I 
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings."
>
> Yea Craig I had the same concerns. I am 6'-5" and liquid cooled so a stock KR 
> was out of the question from day one. I went with Diehl outer skins and outer 
> spars built to plans. My stub wing was increased a foot on both sides. I used 
> the same spar cap dimensions with more verticals and the addition of a 1/4" 
> plywood laminated to the aft side of the main spar. That won't get me to 27 
> feet but it will help offset the additional weight that I signed up for.
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
>

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KR> AeroPoxy and Micro Mixture

2011-10-11 Thread da...@windstream.net
The ratio of Resin to Hardener for AeroPoxy is 1 part Resin to .27 part 
hardener and this is by weight, which I forgot to mention before.
The ratio is the same no matter what you are using it for, Micro, Flox, 
Fiberglass, Carbon Fiber.  It has to be the same.

Put your cup on the scale and set it to grams and zero it.  Pour in as much 
resin as you think you will need.  Multiply that weight by 1.27.  Pour in the 
hardener until you reach that weight.  Stir about 100 strokes and you are ready 
to use the mixture for whatever you wish.
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KR> Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread Virgil N. Salisbury

You have a great single place aircraft, Virg

On 10/11/2011 9:51 AM, Teate, Stephen wrote:
> "The reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I 
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings."
>
> Yea Craig I had the same concerns. I am 6'-5" and liquid cooled so a stock KR 
> was out of the question from day one. I went with Diehl outer skins and outer 
> spars built to plans. My stub wing was increased a foot on both sides. I used 
> the same spar cap dimensions with more verticals and the addition of a 1/4" 
> plywood laminated to the aft side of the main spar. That won't get me to 27 
> feet but it will help offset the additional weight that I signed up for.
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
>


KR> Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread Teate, Stephen
"The reason I ask is I think to get the
useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I would 
do this by adding 36 inches
to the stub wings."

Yea Craig I had the same concerns. I am 6'-5" and liquid cooled so a stock KR 
was out of the question from day one. I went with Diehl outer skins and outer 
spars built to plans. My stub wing was increased a foot on both sides. I used 
the same spar cap dimensions with more verticals and the addition of a 1/4" 
plywood laminated to the aft side of the main spar. That won't get me to 27 
feet but it will help offset the additional weight that I signed up for.

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas

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KR> Re: Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread
The wingspan on the KR motor glider built by Ken Rand was 27 feet.

Mike Turner
Edgewood N.M.

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The wingspan on my KR-2 is 23 feet 3 inches using the Diehl plans and wing
skin kit.  My weight and balance has a max useful load of 528 pounds and
still remains within stable loading.  I have seen many KR-2 aircraft flying
for years with the Diehl wing skin mod that uses the RAF48 airfoil.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

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KR> AeroPoxy and Micro Mixture

2011-10-11 Thread Brian Coss
Sorry,still learnin how to use a web site, I layd up the wings,is the racial
the same for over the fiberglass? Thx
On Oct 11, 2011 7:19 AM,  wrote:

> First, you need to remember to change the subject when you are changing the
> subject.  Your question had nothing to do with "Wingspan".  I almost deleted
> it because I have read enough about wingspan.
>
> The ratio for mixing AeroPoxy is 1 resin to .27 hardener.  For sealing the
> foam with the Micro mixture, put in enough Micro to have it pour about like
> honey.  If you get it too thick, it will start rolling up the foam if you
> get that, just put in a little more epoxy and keep on going.
>
> =
> Hi,i have a gal. Of aeropoxy& a quart of hardner&two pounds of micro
> ballons, I have to finish my wings, what is the ratial for mixing them?
>
>
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KR> AeroPoxy and Micro Mixture

2011-10-11 Thread da...@windstream.net
First, you need to remember to change the subject when you are changing the 
subject.  Your question had nothing to do with "Wingspan".  I almost deleted it 
because I have read enough about wingspan.

The ratio for mixing AeroPoxy is 1 resin to .27 hardener.  For sealing the foam 
with the Micro mixture, put in enough Micro to have it pour about like honey.  
If you get it too thick, it will start rolling up the foam if you get that, 
just put in a little more epoxy and keep on going.

=
Hi,i have a gal. Of aeropoxy& a quart of hardner&two pounds of micro 
ballons, I have to finish my wings, what is the ratial for mixing them? 




KR> Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread Brian Coss
Hi,i have a gal. Of aeropoxy& a quart of hardner&two pounds of micro
ballons, I have to finish my wings, what is the ratial for mixing them?
On Oct 10, 2011 5:51 PM, "Craig Williams"  wrote:

> I have been reading in the archives about the RAF48 wing span and loading.
>  I see that Garry Morgan's KR2SS had
> a span of 27 feet.  Was wondering if anyone stateside had gone this big.
>  The reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings.
>
> Craig
> www,kr2seafury.com
>
>
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KR> Re: Wingspan

2011-10-11 Thread smwood
The wingspan on my KR-2 is 23 feet 3 inches using the Diehl plans and wing 
skin kit.  My weight and balance has a max useful load of 528 pounds and 
still remains within stable loading.  I have seen many KR-2 aircraft flying 
for years with the Diehl wing skin mod that uses the RAF48 airfoil.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

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Ask Navaro sp.RR said do not extend the wings on the KR-2, Virg

On 10/10/2011 6:51 PM, Craig Williams wrote:
> I have been reading in the archives about the RAF48 wing span and loading. 
> I see that Garry Morgan's KR2SS had
> a span of 27 feet.  Was wondering if anyone stateside had gone this big. 
> The reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I 
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings.
>
> Craig
> www,kr2seafury.com
>