KR> Year progress update
Nice work Stef. I'll be interested to see your progress with the BMW - the R1200 is on my list of possible engines. Good luck. Cheers, Tony Sent from my iPad On 28 Dec 2013, at 3:24 am, "stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl" wrote: Hi KR friends. I can tell you all that I am happy with the progress of this year. We made the wheel fairings inclusive the attaching brackets. Made the lower stabilo fairings, Sended en painted the lower side of the KR( fuselage, stubs and stabilizer) Made the pitot tubes and the tubes for the fuel vent. And just finished the wing extensions with the wing tips. In the mean time I am bussy with one of the KR guys (No names) to get an approval for the engine. We planned a 110 HP engine. Hopefully it is gonne be the BMW R1200GS. So also bussy with the prop, in flight adjustable or not, ect ect. Next year we planned to get the wings finished (spayed and balanced) so the are at the right weight. Finish the interior so we can do an weight an balance, and Yes??..than we can start with the engine. This week I did a major update at our website so have a look over there. If you have any doubt or questions?.let me know. Last thing to tell you is have a good new years party, and a happy 2014! Stef and his Dad Ted -- Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Year progress update
The center tank can handle 20 liters so it brings the total at 60 ltrs. --- Stef. Well done on your web page. That looks a VERY sturdy duel control system I see you only have 60 L of fuel, is that correct?. That seems a small amount or a 110hp engine. All the best, keep up the great work. Phil Matheson ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 1992 KR 2 on tri-gear 90% complete $5500
Lee Van Dyke wrote: > That's 8000 worth of stuff, already put together Probably so, but Galen's description leaves a lot of questions to be answered. For example is the carb a POSa? Is the engine a home brew or something without extra front bearing area, or is a higher quality installation like a GPASC Force One or Revmaster? Although we all assume the gear is Diehl, Bill Clapp once sold a set of home brewed gear to a guy in Australia as "KR gear", which was heavy, hideous, and of dubious engineering quality. [To be fair, it came on the project from which his airplane was derived, and then he sold it to the Aussie rather than use it himself]. Are the fuselage and wings a good build quality, already sanded, prepped, and "really" ready for paint? "Needs paint" may mean it's really ready for paint, but there's a lot of room between the two, and I've seen some pretty bad quality finished KRs before. I'm not picking on Galen at all...his may very well be a masterpiece and a steal...I've seen plenty of them float by on KRnet. I'm just saying that the assembly of $8000 in parts is not always worth the sum of the parts! If nothing else, I'm saying that a few pictures are worth several thousand words, but even just a few more words would be helpful. This is an example of the problem with many KR messages...a few words dashed off in a sentence or two that leave many questions unanswered, and probably some worthy KR projects sent to the dump as a result... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> 1992 KR 2 on tri-gear 90% complete $5500
It's amazing what we put into our KR's and what others think they are worth. I have about 23K in mine and on several occasions I offered to sell it. I was amazed at what some folks thought was a fair offer, not to mention I have 2000 hrs of labor that I would be giving away. Needless to say I still have N6399U and enjoy flying it every season. On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:49 PM, Lee Van Dyke wrote: That's 8000 worth of stuff, already put together Lee Van Dyke On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Galen Zortman wrote: > > My 1992 KR2 trigear with 1835 Hapi, electric start, prop, spinner, pants, > canopy, carb, flaps. Needs paint, interior done, instrumentation, canopy > done, front cowls done, front deck done, brakes installed. I have almost all > parts to finish, except for fuel tank, gauges, misc things. > Email me off list if interested, I'll be at hangar? tomorrow if you need > recent pictures. > gzortman at gmail.com > 785-342-9896 > > Have a wonderful day. > Galen Zortman > Tornado Alley Aircraft Company > P.O. Box 182 > Pawnee Rock, Kansas 67567 > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 1992 KR 2 $5500
>Lee Van Dyke wrote: >>That's 8000 worth of stuff, already put together > >Probably so, but Galen's description leaves a lot of questions to be >answered. >Mark Langford ++ Good advise Mark. Sometimes our want of an airplane can lead us down the road to financial misfortune. I've seen projects and flying KR's that I wouldn't take home or fly if the owner paid ME. Sellers should do their best to qualify what they are selling and buyers should approach a sale with the attitude of "mistakes could be fatal". If you are looking to purchase a KR an not familiar with the design, find someone who is and ask for their help. When I began with a "just started" project I had to totally remove the entire firewall and trash the spars.I ended up with a three sided, open ended boat, with additional building material, that I probably paid too much for. There are good projects and good deals out there. Just take the time to know what you're getting. Caveat emptor... HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. Larry Flesner
KR> workbenche ideas
For anyone looking to build workbenches this year I would suggest going to Google and entering (Ron Paulk workbench) and look at the images. Most of us who build airplanes also build other things and these benches have some great ideas incorporated into them. I hope all of you have a great year of building and flying. John Backer
KR> workbench ideas
I should have included this information with videos. http://www.core77.com/blog/tools/woodshop_on_wheels_ron_paulk_on_the_design_of_his_mobile_woodshop_part_1_25377.asp
KR> 1992 KR 2 $5500
I agree with everything said.Airplane projects are not for the thrift minded person.Build the plane you want,but if you want to save money I would suggest a bank account.Tommy W. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote: > > Lee Van Dyke wrote: >> >>> That's 8000 worth of stuff, already put together >>> >> >> Probably so, but Galen's description leaves a lot of questions to be >> answered. >> Mark Langford >> > ++ > > Good advise Mark. Sometimes our want of an airplane can lead us down the > road to financial misfortune. I've seen projects and flying KR's that I > wouldn't take home or fly if the owner paid ME. Sellers should do their > best to qualify what they are selling and buyers should approach a sale > with the attitude of "mistakes could be fatal". If you are looking to > purchase a KR an not familiar with the design, find someone who is and ask > for their help. When I began with a "just started" project I had to > totally remove the entire firewall and trash the spars.I ended up with > a three sided, open ended boat, with additional building material, that I > probably paid too much for. There are good projects and good deals out > there. Just take the time to know what you're getting. Caveat > emptor... > > HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> 1992 KR 2 on tri-gear 90% complete $5500
Yeah... my project - I've thought of selling many times... and now the wife is moving her dog grooming business downstairs Lots of new clutter and lack of space... I can't afford a hanger- then there's the whole health thing... Bottom line, there's no way I'll ever finish it or sell it. For info, it's 85-90% done, got a Subaru EA-81 with a 10 year old belt on the re-drive. The engine is rebuilt using NSI 'hot' cam - turbo charged. dual ignition, belly mounted radiator al la P51 - panel is complete, but transponder and radio seem to be malfuntioning - who knows why... But it does start and run nicely. Fuselage is painted, wings not. The wife would sure like the space. Anybody want to make me an offer? Anybody want to guess what it's worth? probably $20K into it, Hah!??!@ On 12/28/2013 7:05 AM, Mark Langford wrote: > Lee Van Dyke wrote: > >> That's 8000 worth of stuff, already put together > > Probably so, but Galen's description leaves a lot of questions to be > answered. For example is the carb a POSa? Is the engine a home brew > or something without extra front bearing area, or is a higher quality > installation like a GPASC Force One or Revmaster? Although we all > assume the gear is Diehl, Bill Clapp once sold a set of home brewed > gear to a guy in Australia as "KR gear", which was heavy, hideous, and > of dubious engineering quality. [To be fair, it came on the project > from which his airplane was derived, and then he sold it to the Aussie > rather than use it himself]. Are the fuselage and wings a good build > quality, already sanded, prepped, and "really" ready for paint? > "Needs paint" may mean it's really ready for paint, but there's a lot > of room between the two, and I've seen some pretty bad quality > finished KRs before. > > I'm not picking on Galen at all...his may very well be a masterpiece > and a steal...I've seen plenty of them float by on KRnet. I'm just > saying that the assembly of $8000 in parts is not always worth the sum > of the parts! If nothing else, I'm saying that a few pictures are > worth several thousand words, but even just a few more words would be > helpful. > > This is an example of the problem with many KR messages...a few words > dashed off in a sentence or two that leave many questions unanswered, > and probably some worthy KR projects sent to the dump as a result... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > >
KR> 1992 KR 2 $5500
Details on Galen's KR2 are at http://www.krnet.org/krs/gzortman/ , including phone number. He can be reached at gzortman at gmail.com . Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com
