KR> BID definition
Mike, BID is a short-hand call-out for Bi-directional fiber glass cloth; approximately the same number of fiber strands crossing each other at 90 degrees in the woven cloth. (Lots of weave patterns for fiber glass cloth on the market: plain weave, Crow Foot, Satin weave, etc. The Aircraft Spruce catalog has a good reference for the home builder.) The BID will have approximately the same strength and stiffness in 90 degree directions. Most plans call for the BID to be applied at 45-degrees fabric orientation to the main spar to enhance torsional strength of the wing. The Diehl wing skins use this same 45-degree fabric orientation when they are constructed at the factory. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA > "The Diehl wing skins are a sandwich with inner and outer layers of 2 BID on a foam core. I have talked with other builders that have used the Diehl skins and not used the spar extensions; they just use the rather stiff skin as a monocoque stressed skin. The Diehl skins extend the horizontal stabilizer and elevator span 3-inches each side for an increase of 6 inches more than the KR-2 plans." Thanks for posting that info on the Diehl tailfeathers & skins. I never knew the stabilizer had three inches extra. Nor do I know what BID is . . . but I can Google fu and find out. Whatever it is it sure holds up well. They literally still look like new after thirty years, tops and bottoms. Whatever BID is, it's good stuff. Mike KSEE
KR> BID definition
Yep, that is what I used in my first Kr-2 BID 35 years ago. Sparky Sparks -Original Message- From: Sid Wood via KRnet Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:49 PM To: krnet at list.krnet.org Cc: Sid Wood Subject: KR> BID definition Mike, BID is a short-hand call-out for Bi-directional fiber glass cloth; approximately the same number of fiber strands crossing each other at 90 degrees in the woven cloth. (Lots of weave patterns for fiber glass cloth on the market: plain weave, Crow Foot, Satin weave, etc. The Aircraft Spruce catalog has a good reference for the home builder.) The BID will have approximately the same strength and stiffness in 90 degree directions. Most plans call for the BID to be applied at 45-degrees fabric orientation to the main spar to enhance torsional strength of the wing. The Diehl wing skins use this same 45-degree fabric orientation when they are constructed at the factory. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA > "The Diehl wing skins are a sandwich with inner and outer layers of 2 BID on a foam core. I have talked with other builders that have used the Diehl skins and not used the spar extensions; they just use the rather stiff skin as a monocoque stressed skin. The Diehl skins extend the horizontal stabilizer and elevator span 3-inches each side for an increase of 6 inches more than the KR-2 plans." Thanks for posting that info on the Diehl tailfeathers & skins. I never knew the stabilizer had three inches extra. Nor do I know what BID is . . . but I can Google fu and find out. Whatever it is it sure holds up well. They literally still look like new after thirty years, tops and bottoms. Whatever BID is, it's good stuff. Mike KSEE ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> LSA Operation
I had a friend that spent a year in jail. From: Gary via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Gary Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation Quick answer on Google says: "The maximum penalty for flying in command as a pilot without being certified is up to three years in prison and a $250,000 fine." Gary -Original Message- From: billjacobs386 at yahoo.comvia KRnet Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:03 PM To: krnet at list.krnet.org ; ronwright5 at yahoo.com Cc: billjacobs386 at yahoo.com Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation ? ? What if? "Theoretical? of course" in a land far away... you grew up flying and have been flying under the radar so to speak. Ramp check and no license. What is the absolute worst thing that could happen?Thanks.Bill Jacobs -- Original message--From: Randall Smith via KRnetDate: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 2:15 PMTo: Ronald Wright;KRnet;Cc: Randall Smith;Subject:Re: KR> LSA OperationI have a friend that had an accident with his maule in Alaska. He has not had a physical for eight years. Can't pass one. Told the FAA he has been flying light sport. They explained to him the maule was not light sport. (Like he didn't know.)When everything was settled they gave him a 30 day suspension. Unless you do something that hurts somebody else they really don't do much.Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 17, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Ronald Wright via KRnet? wrote:> > Why does a ramp check scare you?? Normally they just ask to see your license and aircraft registration/paperwork.? No big deal.? Visual inspection of the plane from the outside only as they are not supposed to be able to enter your plane.? The odds of it happening are a million to one.? Treat it as a nice check with someone who just might like to look at your neat toy..? Above all, be nice and smile!> > Ron> > > > On Thu, 3/17/16, n357cj via KRnet? wrote:> > Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation> To: "KRnet" > Cc: "n357cj" > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2016, 12:37 PM> > Sid,> What> prompted the ramp check This is the only thing that> scares me about flying...> Joe Horton> > - Original Message -> From: "Sid Wood via KRnet" > >> My hangar partner has a> Pulsar XP with a 80 hp Rotex engine. >> > After operating for four years without a medical, he has >> had one ramp check without any further> problem.>> Your results may vary.> > Sid Wood> > ___> Search the KRnet Archives at> http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.> To> UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> to change options> > > ___> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options___Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.orgplease see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.htmlsee http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> I can get spoiled flying up here.
I took a load of Kubota tractors out to Medford Oregon this week. Before my next load I had to take a 34-hour break. So I decided to go fly. I went up to Grants Pass Or. K3S8. to rent a 172. The instructor and I flew out to Brooking Or. KBOK Then down the coast to Crescent City Ca.KCEC then back to Grants Pass.?On the way out to Brooking. We flew though Canyons to the coast. I haven't done that since Alaska. ?From Brooking to Crescent. We flew 500 ft of the ocean along the coast. That was fun flying around the big rocks. ?On the way back I got some hood time. When we were almost back. I told Walt I really enjoyed the flight and wanted to get checked out. So at the end we did some slow flight and a couple of stalls then landed.?I love taking friends and Young Eagles up and fly pass the Gateway Arch. But up hear is something special. Dan P. and John B. and everyone else who's up hear. You guys have it great up hear.Ray, I can add California to my list. : ) Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705 Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.
KR> Wednesday KR2 flight
Hey Mark With figures like that, a lovely looking KR plus a strip you can basically call your own, I reckon I'd be putting that other aircraft of yours to bed and returning the engine to you know who... there's too much flying for you to be done out there as it is :-) I noticed the die off in the trees off the bottom end of the runway there and imagine that must be due to the emergency fuel dump after your forced landing a while back Cheers John John Martindale 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 Australia ph:61 2 6658 4767 m:0403 432179 email:john_martindale at bigpond.com web site: -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford via KRnet Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 1:44 PM To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Subject: KR> Wednesday KR2 flight KRnetHeads, Here's a quick report on a snip
KR> Pilot license
Went to a WINGS. Seminar several rears ago and the presenter stated that the goal for the year was to get at least 40% of the pilots in Alaska licensed Sent from my iPhone
KR> Pilot license
Very interesting, Gary, I guess that's Alaska. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Garry Cowles via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > Went to a WINGS. Seminar several rears ago and the presenter stated that > the goal for the year was to get at least 40% of the pilots in Alaska > licensed > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> LSA Operation
Lee Parker wrote: > I had a friend that spent a year in jail. Was there something egregious in the circumstances, like somebody was killed or injured? I'd be surprised if you would get a year as the result of a ramp check when there were no extenuating circumstances. Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> Bid?
> > Nor do I know what BID is . >. . but I can Google fu and find out. Whatever it is it sure holds up >well. >Mike >KSEE > >++ BID is "bi-directional" cloth. KR cloth has strands running at a 45 degree angle as I recall. Some BID may run at 90 degrees. UNI cloth is one direction strands with just enough cross strands to hold cloth together. Larry "google" Flesner
KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 70
> "The Diehl wing skins are a sandwich with inner and outer layers of 2 BID on a foam core. I have talked with other builders that have used the Diehl skins and not used the spar extensions; they just use the rather stiff skin as a monocoque stressed skin. The Diehl skins extend the horizontal stabilizer and elevator span 3-inches each side for an increase of 6 inches more than the KR-2 plans." Thanks for posting that info on the Diehl tailfeathers & skins. I never knew the stabilizer had three inches extra. Nor do I know what BID is . . . but I can Google fu and find out. Whatever it is it sure holds up well. They literally still look like new after thirty years, tops and bottoms. Whatever BID is, it's good stuff. Mike KSEE nowbuzzing You Won???t Believe These Moments Caught on Camera http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/56ebbae4b5e343ae44c92st01vuc
KR> LSA Operation
What if? "Theoretical ?of course" in a land far away... you grew up flying and have been flying under the radar so to speak. Ramp check and no license. What is the absolute worst thing that could happen?Thanks.Bill Jacobs -- Original message--From: Randall Smith via KRnetDate: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 2:15 PMTo: Ronald Wright;KRnet;Cc: Randall Smith;Subject:Re: KR> LSA OperationI have a friend that had an accident with his maule in Alaska. He has not had a physical for eight years. Can't pass one. Told the FAA he has been flying light sport. They explained to him the maule was not light sport. (Like he didn't know.)When everything was settled they gave him a 30 day suspension. Unless you do something that hurts somebody else they really don't do much.Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 17, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Ronald Wright via KRnet wrote:> > Why does a ramp check scare you? Normally they just ask to see your license and aircraft registration/paperwork. No big deal. Visual inspection of the plane from the outside only as they are not supposed to be able to enter your plane. The odds of it happening are a million to one. Treat it as a nice check with someone who just might like to look at your neat toy.. Above all, be nice and smile!> > Ron> > > > On Thu, 3/17/16, n357cj via KRnet wrote:> > Subject: Re: KR> LSA Operation> To: "KRnet" > Cc: "n357cj" > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2016, 12:37 PM> > Sid,> What> prompted the ramp check This is the only thing that> scares me about flying...> Joe Horton> > - Original Message -> From: "Sid Wood via KRnet" > >> My hangar partner has a> Pulsar XP with a 80 hp Rotex engine. >> > After operating for four years without a medical, he has >> had one ramp check without any further> problem.>> Your results may vary.> > Sid Wood> > ___> Search the KRnet Archives at> http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.> To> UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> to change options> > > ___> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options___Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.orgplease see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.htmlsee http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
