KR> ADS-B In-out

2016-08-03 Thread Mark Wegmet
Interesting. Keep in mind that the FAA drone registration process currently
in place registers DRONE OWNERS. E.g., I am registered and I am required to
apply my registration number to "any aircraft (SIC)" that I fly. Mine happen
to be small R/C helicopters, but I only have one registration number for any
'drone' I fly. Drones larger than a certain size and/or used in commercial
applications will/may be subject to additional regulations, but at this
time, it is individuals that register as drone owners, not assigned numbers
for individual machines.

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2016-08-03 Thread laser147 at juno.com
Here's the article that crossed my path this morning.  

http://goo.gl/bLDHvZ

As Mark W. correctly points out, the drone registration is that of the
owner/operator, not the drone itself.  A source I came across this
afternoon says each operator has 1.5 drones, so the actual numbers of
drones is much higher than the 500,000 figure given in the article.   

Looking at numbers of registered aircraft (conventional) AOPA's figure is
approximately 224,000 as of 2011.  Their figure is for "active" aircraft.
 And that was five years ago.  Looking at the year-by-year decline on
AOPA's chart I would guess current active aircraft, including helicopters
and Experimentals, is getting close to 200,000.  



On the other side of things, attendance at Oshkosh was 1% higher this
year than last year.   563,000 people showed up over seven days, and 10%
more vendors this year than last.  The increased number of vendors were
there to sell drones :-)


Mike
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KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell

2016-08-03 Thread Jeff Scott
This is a perfect example of some of the somewhat deceptive advertising I have 
been seeing.  You will note that you get a to pay $3500 for a Mode-S 
transponder that is touted as ADS-B Out "SOLVED".  But what is less than 
obvious is that the Transponder does NOT have a WAAS GPS Position source.  If 
you happen to have a WAAS enabled Garmin GTN/GNS system to front end the 
transponder as a position source, you're in luck.  If you don't, well, for 
another $15,000, they can fix you right up. 

This is virtually identical to the unit I looked at from Sandia Aerospace for 
the same price, except that the Sandia unit also had ADS-B in, a traffic 
display on the front panel, and WiFi to talk to your GPS.  But you still need 
to buy a high end WAAS enabled Garmin device to front end it. (read $)

When reading the ads for ADS-B Out, you have to look to see what isn't in the 
ad.  

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
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Subject:?KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell
Here is some information that might help your research. If you need a 
transponder this King might be a good way to go.

http://www.bendixking.com/Search-Results?searchtext=Ads-b&searchmode=anyword

Larry H




KR> ADS-B In-out

2016-08-03 Thread laser147 at juno.com
I just read this morning that already (the FAA drone registration
requirement was only recently issued), 500,000 drone registrations have
been issued.  There are only 320,000 conventional aircraft currently
registered in the U.S., a figure that will continue to decline. 
Commercial drones share the same ATC airspace as aircraft and are subject
to the same equipment requirements as conventional aircraft.  Thanks to
the freedom we have in the Experimental world to use any avionics we
want, we can use these ADS-B solutions being developed for drones.  Since
it is such a huge market I'm sure there are any number of companies
developing all-in-one solutions for drone operators to choose from.  I
noticed one such company when watching an Avweb video a few weeks ago. 
It's 3 minutes into the video.  

https://goo.gl/ahmfFJ

The company has a well-developed website with a large assortment of
products, some of them still under development but with specs available. 
They have a developer's kit available for those who want to create their
own custom ADS-B In/Out solutions - including integration with whatever
existing transponder we have.  These electronic devices integrate with
autopilots for automatic collision avoidance.  Their website is an
interesting place to prowl around.  I imagine Uavionix is one of many
such sources of such equipment given the market being so huge and getting
huger (huger?).

http://www.uavionix.com/

I don't see any pricing but I haven't done any digging or made any
inquiries.  Since the equipment is for Unmanned Aircraft Systems (drones)
and the competition so fierce, I suspect it's very inexpensive.  I've
already seen some things from Navworx in the $500 range.  

***

I think the day is not too far off that flying our planes or driving our
cars will be thought of as quaint activities.  Homebuilding will consist
of buying an existing design from Build-a-Plane.  It'll come as code that
gets fed to a 3-D Printer.  Those adept at programming can "build" their
own designs or take an existing one and personalize it.  We're
approaching the end of an era.  Enjoy.


Mike
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KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell

2016-08-03 Thread Tommy Waymack
 "Someone" does make an all in one unit but I don't believe it will be
going in  a KR.The reason a milti box approach is used is so that the
system can be changed without large out lays of funds at any one
time.Standard catergory IFR aircraft are the basis of avionics
developement.Have not seen any GNS-430's in KRs yet.Tommy W.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Larry via KRnet 
wrote:

> I noticed that no one seems to have one piece of equipment that will do it
> all. As you say, each separate piece that is needed to make a complete
> system really adds up. I wanted to yell at the king guys I talked to
> because they act like buying multiple pieces is no big deal!!
> I will bet someone will build a cheaper single box that will do it all and
> kick everyone's butt!!
> A big push was on at Oshkosh to allow non certified equipment and owner
> installed equipment in certified aircraft that may be better than certified.
> The bureaucrats in the FAA are in such a state of cover ass, slow
> development down because of their laziness or whatever it is that it takes
> forever for already outdated technology to show up for sale to the public.
> If I were King for a day!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a perfect example of some of the somewhat deceptive advertising
> I have been seeing.  You will note that you get a to pay $3500 for a Mode-S
> transponder that is touted as ADS-B Out "SOLVED".  But what is less than
> obvious is that the Transponder does NOT have a WAAS GPS Position source.
> If you happen to have a WAAS enabled Garmin GTN/GNS system to front end the
> transponder as a position source, you're in luck.  If you don't, well, for
> another $15,000, they can fix you right up.
> >
> > This is virtually identical to the unit I looked at from Sandia
> Aerospace for the same price, except that the Sandia unit also had ADS-B
> in, a traffic display on the front panel, and WiFi to talk to your GPS.
> But you still need to buy a high end WAAS enabled Garmin device to front
> end it. (read $)
> >
> > When reading the ads for ADS-B Out, you have to look to see what isn't
> in the ad.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> > Los Alamos, NM
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Subject: KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell
> > Here is some information that might help your research. If you need a
> transponder this King might be a good way to go.
> >
> >
> http://www.bendixking.com/Search-Results?searchtext=Ads-b&searchmode=anyword
> >
> > Larry H
> >
> >
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KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell

2016-08-03 Thread Larry
I noticed that no one seems to have one piece of equipment that will do it all. 
As you say, each separate piece that is needed to make a complete system really 
adds up. I wanted to yell at the king guys I talked to because they act like 
buying multiple pieces is no big deal!!
I will bet someone will build a cheaper single box that will do it all and kick 
everyone's butt!!
A big push was on at Oshkosh to allow non certified equipment and owner 
installed equipment in certified aircraft that may be better than certified.
The bureaucrats in the FAA are in such a state of cover ass, slow development 
down because of their laziness or whatever it is that it takes forever for 
already outdated technology to show up for sale to the public.
If I were King for a day!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a perfect example of some of the somewhat deceptive advertising I 
> have been seeing.  You will note that you get a to pay $3500 for a Mode-S 
> transponder that is touted as ADS-B Out "SOLVED".  But what is less than 
> obvious is that the Transponder does NOT have a WAAS GPS Position source.  If 
> you happen to have a WAAS enabled Garmin GTN/GNS system to front end the 
> transponder as a position source, you're in luck.  If you don't, well, for 
> another $15,000, they can fix you right up. 
> 
> This is virtually identical to the unit I looked at from Sandia Aerospace for 
> the same price, except that the Sandia unit also had ADS-B in, a traffic 
> display on the front panel, and WiFi to talk to your GPS.  But you still need 
> to buy a high end WAAS enabled Garmin device to front end it. (read $)
> 
> When reading the ads for ADS-B Out, you have to look to see what isn't in the 
> ad.  
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>  
> ---
> 
> Subject: KR> ADS-B BendixKing by Honeywell
> Here is some information that might help your research. If you need a 
> transponder this King might be a good way to go.
> 
> http://www.bendixking.com/Search-Results?searchtext=Ads-b&searchmode=anyword
> 
> Larry H
> 
> 
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