KR> Curious and sorry

[budz]

hi Doran Jaffas

C-GJEY is plans built, still a retract:- how may I help

cheers
Bud Zeitz
>   My question is  How many of you on here fly stock KR 2's??
>I would like to converse with anyone who has or us flying the stock
> version
>Any takers??
>   Thanks to All
>Doran Jaffas
>

KR> Curious and sorry

[Roger Bulla]

  My question is  How many of you on here fly stock KR 2's??
  I would like to converse with anyone who has or us flying the stock
version
   Doran Jaffas

Doran

My KR is pretty much a stock, plans built plane. What are your questions?

Roger Bulla
rbulla2 at wic.net



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KR> Facet pumps in series

[Sid Wood]

My KR-2 has a single Facet electric fuel pump in series with a mechanical 
pump on the 2180 VW.  The Facet will will free flow fuel in the forward 
direction.  The stock VW fuel pump has a shut off feature that will not free 
flow fuel if the engine is not running; the Facet cannot pump fuel through 
the non-running mechanical pump.  I put a check valve in parallel with the 
VW mechanical pump to get fuel in the system, including the carburetor, for 
starting.  The check valve also permits engine operation if the mechanical 
pump fails.  Because I requested night VFR airworthiness , the FAA inspector 
required fuel flow measurements with each pump operating separately and the 
engine at WOT, max AOA and minimum fuel.  Each test did require some 
discrete plumping changes firewall forward.  Test fuel flows were 21 gallons 
per hour for the VW mechanical pump and 23 gallons per hour with the Facet. 
WOT and best power mixture at 13.6 AFR burns 5.3 gallons per hour.
The Facet has a check valve built-in, the VW pump will not back flow and the 
extra check valve is not supposed to let fuel back flow; but after shut down 
the fuel in the system will drain back to the selected tank.  The whole 
system, including the carburetor and gascolator, drains empty back to the 
fuel tank selected in about twenty minutes.  How the carb float bowl and the 
gascolator empty is a mystery to me.  If the fuel selector valve is set to 
off, the system will retain fuel.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

---
Question

Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the 
other
fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real pain to 
get
the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier.  It looks like
the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time.  Not sure they still are.

Thanks.
Craig

KR> Facet pumps in series

[Larry Flesner]

At 05:52 PM 8/13/2016, you wrote:
>Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine 
>if the other
>fails.
++

Your question has pretty much been answered but I can confirm.  I've 
run 2 pumps in series for 600+ hours with no engine driven 
pump.  Both on for takeoff and landing and alternate use in the air.

Do a simple ground test before installing to insure your pumps work 
the same way.

Larry Flesner
flesner at frontier.com 

KR> Facet pumps in series

[Doran Jaffas]

I feel really simple here kids. The KR2 Stock retractable gear that I am
putting back together with advice from some you and local mechs has wet
wings that I dont plan on using. Instead...A gravity feed slide valve carb
with mixture control is as sophisticated as Im going to get but she will be
strictly a VFR day flyer.
 Good to read you Sid.
On Aug 14, 2016 7:42 PM, "Sid Wood via KRnet"  wrote:

> My KR-2 has a single Facet electric fuel pump in series with a mechanical
> pump on the 2180 VW.  The Facet will will free flow fuel in the forward
> direction.  The stock VW fuel pump has a shut off feature that will not
> free flow fuel if the engine is not running; the Facet cannot pump fuel
> through the non-running mechanical pump.  I put a check valve in parallel
> with the VW mechanical pump to get fuel in the system, including the
> carburetor, for starting.  The check valve also permits engine operation if
> the mechanical pump fails.  Because I requested night VFR airworthiness ,
> the FAA inspector required fuel flow measurements with each pump operating
> separately and the engine at WOT, max AOA and minimum fuel.  Each test did
> require some discrete plumping changes firewall forward.  Test fuel flows
> were 21 gallons per hour for the VW mechanical pump and 23 gallons per hour
> with the Facet. WOT and best power mixture at 13.6 AFR burns 5.3 gallons
> per hour.
> The Facet has a check valve built-in, the VW pump will not back flow and
> the extra check valve is not supposed to let fuel back flow; but after shut
> down the fuel in the system will drain back to the selected tank.  The
> whole system, including the carburetor and gascolator, drains empty back to
> the fuel tank selected in about twenty minutes.  How the carb float bowl
> and the gascolator empty is a mystery to me.  If the fuel selector valve is
> set to off, the system will retain fuel.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>
> ---
> Question
>
> Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
> other
> fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real pain to
> get
> the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier.  It looks like
> the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time.  Not sure they still are.
>
> Thanks.
> Craig
>
>
>
>
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KR> AirVenture 2016 KR Forum

[Chris Prata]

thanks!  just started watching...  like the crowd shots too...

KR> LED Strobe lights

[S]

I checked both Wicks and AS, as an exemple this one from Wicks website:
http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/viewitems/aircraft-lighting/t-lighting-psa-enterprises-12v-tail-light-assembly?

I presume all that are sold from these two sources are acceptable but...
I think in Canada the rules for aircraft lighting are same as in US, I was 
unsure whether the anti-colision strobes must comply to some specifications (as 
viewing angle, luminosity, etc.)

Thanks a lot,
Stefan

> 
> If you look in the Wicks catalog in the light section. Around page 152 (I'm 
> looking at an old catalog) they have the different categories of antique 
> illusion stroke systems that are acceptable. Looks like you want to do Fig 3. 
> I'm doing figure 4.with a tail light.
> 
> 
> Paul Visk 

KR> LED Strobe lights

[Paul Visk]

If you look in the Wicks catalog in the light section. Around page 152 (I'm 
looking at an old catalog) they have the different categories of antique 
illusion stroke systems that are acceptable. Looks like you want to do Fig 3. 
I'm doing figure 4.with a tail light.


Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705
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Subject: KR> LED Strobe lights 

KRNetters,

I am considering placing a single strobe flasher on top of the fin. I found 
there are few LED flash strobes available from different sources, any of you 
having experience with that? Are these LED strobes accepted by the FAA for 
experimental aircrafts?

Thanks in advance,

Stefan Balatchev
Ottawan ON, Canada
s_sbal "at" hotmail.com
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KR> LED Strobe lights

[S]

KRNetters,

I am considering placing a single strobe flasher on top of the fin. I found 
there are few LED flash strobes available from different sources, any of you 
having experience with that? Are these LED strobes accepted by the FAA for 
experimental aircrafts?

Thanks in advance,

Stefan Balatchev
Ottawan ON, Canada
s_sbal "at" hotmail.com

KR> Facet pumps in series

[Phillip Hill]

Facet Pumps in series

If you are buying these pumps from another source, say a racing shop or
something, you have to watch the model you buy. Facet implements 2 feature
options that will prevent them from being used in series. Most of their
pumps have check valves in them that ensures fuel moves only one direction.
That's not a problem for us generally. The other feature is the positive
shut off integral to some models. In these models, if the pump is off you
can not push or pull fuel through themI will point you to their web
site for a matrixthe PSO column indicates the presence of the Positive
Shut Off...

http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php

Phill Hill
Collinsville, IL

KR> AirVenture 2016 KR Forum

[PPaulVsk at aol.com]

Some of you guys have asked in past years if someone could  record Marks 
forum at Oshkosh.  This is my attempt.It's not vary good  because it was 
recorded on my phone.  
I want to thank my son, Michael for helping me get this uploaded  to 
Youtube. If I did it, it would have been five separate  videos.  I also learned 
that for some reason, I was able to  use AOL to upload the video.
 https://youtu.be/ejCWbP58Frg

Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
618 406 

KR> Facet pumps in series

[Daniel Heath]

Sorry, forgot the link



http://krbuilder.org/FirewallForward/FuelSystem/FuelPumpTests/index.html



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Question



Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
other fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real
pain to get the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier.  It
looks like the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time.  Not sure they still
are.



Thanks. 

Craig

  www.kr2seafury.com

  www.N1160Hminiplane.com



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KR> Facet pumps in series

[Daniel Heath]

This was a discussion a good many years ago, so I documented some tests to
prove that you can install them in series.  In fact, that is how they were
installed on the Black Bird.



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Question



Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
other fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real
pain to get the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier.  It
looks like the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time.  Not sure they still
are.



Thanks. 

Craig

  www.kr2seafury.com

  www.N1160Hminiplane.com



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