KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering

2016-08-18 Thread Tony King
Are you sure he's talking about Solid Works? That's a 3D CAD and modelling 
tool. I'm trying to imagine how a presentation about registering an aircraft 
might be delivered using that tool.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Aug 2016, at 10:30 AM, Paul-Visk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll talked to Charlie Becker from EAA today. He is doing a forum  Saturday 
> afternoon at the gathering on how to register you home  built.  He asked me 
> if I could check if anyone knows how to use Solid  Works. His presentation 
> that he's going to do at the Gathering is on that  program. That software 
> program is relatively new to him and he's  not comfortable with using it yet. 
> He was hoping someone would be  there to rescue him if it crashed. 
> 
> Paul Visk
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> 618 406 4705
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KR> Kr2s Engine?

2016-08-18 Thread Tony King
Hi Stan,

A 70 inch prop on a KR seems unlikely. They're a bit close to the ground.  The 
TBO on a corvair is whatever you (the builder) decide. Comparing engines is too 
difficult for an email response. There are so many variables and some of them 
come down to simple personal preference.  There are fast and economical KRs 
with both those engine choices.

Cheers,

Tony

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> On 18 Aug 2016, at 10:32 AM, Global Solutions via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better choice?
> What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the Corvair over the o200?
> What is the time between overhaul on a Corvair?
> 
> Thanks
> Stan
> 
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KR> Kr2s Engine?

2016-08-18 Thread Jeff Scott
As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal preference.  A more realistic 
view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and I flew side by side from Los 
Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his Corvair powered KR and me in my 
O-200 powered KR.  We flew the whole trip within sight of each other.  There 
are differences between our planes to be sure, but we are very closely matched 
in speed and performance.  Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less than I did with my O-200 
for the trip.  

On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen from the sky.  Not many 
Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.  For sure, I have abused and broken 
things in my engine.  But the O-200 is stout where it counts.  It has never 
missed a beat, and things like a broken rocker shaft boss were found while 
performing routine maintenance in the hangar.  If you're going to build a 
Corvair to try to match an O-200 for reliability, it's going to cost as much to 
build as the O-200.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


?
?

Sent:?Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM
From:?"Mark Langford via KRnet" 
To:?KRnet 
Cc:?"Mark Langford" 
Subject:?Re: KR> Kr2s Engine?
"Stan" wrote:

> Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better
> choice? What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the
> Corvair over the o200? What is the time between overhaul on a
> Corvair?

The difference between the two boils down to the O-200 is a real
airplane engine, designed for the job, with compromises to make it last.
This includes lower compression for reduced stressed, and a more
primitive carb for simplicity. The biggest thing with the O-200 is that
it's purpose made for the job, with giant bearing near the prop to
handle prop loads.

The Corvair was not designed to run wide open all the time, but if you
put a $2000 crankshaft in it and add a $1000 front bearing, the crank
becomes pretty reliable and there are few weak links left, one of which
is the semi-rare cam gear failure (and we know what to watch for on that
now). Rebuilds on a Corvair are pretty cheap, compared to the O-200,
and heads and cylinders survive rather well. Corvair parts are rather
plentiful, and simple stuff like gears are still made and cheap, rather
than rare and expensive.

Having said that, if reliability is your number one goal, the O-200 is
the way to go. If efficiency and performance is your goal, the Corvair
may be the way to go. Cost is probably about the same either way, as
far as initial installation, depending on luck and scrounging ability.

It's too early to tell what the TBO is on the Corvair...there just
aren't enough hours on them yet. I'd bet serious money that it's longer
on the Continental than the Corvair though! I don't think anybody would
disagree with that.

I have a lot invested in Corvairs, and will stick with them. They are
far better than VWs, both in reliability and safety. And I have two of
them ready to run already. No, I'm not trying to sell either of them.
If I were starting over and an O-200 presented itself for a reasonable
price, I'd seriously considering buying it. With a new 4340 crank in my
Corvair though, I'm good with that option too, especially since they are
both paid for.


Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-18 Thread Gary Wold
I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking at
tri-gear and Corvair engine.



Thanks





Gary Wold

Pilotgary at charter.net



KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-18 Thread ml at n56ml.com
Gary Wold wrote:

> I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
> info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking at
> tri-gear and Corvair engine.

I would think the average is probably between 1100 and 1200 on the data
plate.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com





KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-18 Thread Doran Jaffas
You can take Mr. Langfords word as golden. He knows.
On Aug 18, 2016 10:04 AM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Gary Wold wrote:
>
> > I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
> > info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking
> at
> > tri-gear and Corvair engine.
>
> I would think the average is probably between 1100 and 1200 on the data
> plate.
>
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> ML "at" N56ML.com
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KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering

2016-08-18 Thread Paul Visk


Here is Charlie Becker reply.?I misunderstood him.
?PaulI am talking about Solidworks but I was thinking we could have a 
workstation set up with it to let someone who really knows (I don?t) it show it 
off.? I was not
 planning to do it during my talk on certification.
?
Thanks,Charlie?

 Original message 
From: Tony King via KRnet  
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Date: 08/17/2016  7:34 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Tony King  
Subject: Re: KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering 

Are you sure he's talking about Solid Works? That's a 3D CAD and modelling 
tool. I'm trying to imagine how a presentation about registering an aircraft 
might be delivered using that tool.

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> On 18 Aug 2016, at 10:30 AM, Paul-Visk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll talked to Charlie Becker from EAA today. He is doing a forum? Saturday 
> afternoon.
> 
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KR> Kr2s Engine?

2016-08-18 Thread Doran Jaffas
Sounds like Ill stick with the venerable VW. The 0200 is a good engine and
a good midtime one can be had reasonably.
On Aug 17, 2016 11:46 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

> As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal preference.  A more
> realistic view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and I flew side by side
> from Los Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his Corvair powered KR and
> me in my O-200 powered KR.  We flew the whole trip within sight of each
> other.  There are differences between our planes to be sure, but we are
> very closely matched in speed and performance.  Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less
> than I did with my O-200 for the trip.
>
> On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen from the sky.  Not
> many Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.  For sure, I have abused and
> broken things in my engine.  But the O-200 is stout where it counts.  It
> has never missed a beat, and things like a broken rocker shaft boss were
> found while performing routine maintenance in the hangar.  If you're going
> to build a Corvair to try to match an O-200 for reliability, it's going to
> cost as much to build as the O-200.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM
> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s Engine?
> "Stan" wrote:
>
> > Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better
> > choice? What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the
> > Corvair over the o200? What is the time between overhaul on a
> > Corvair?
>
> The difference between the two boils down to the O-200 is a real
> airplane engine, designed for the job, with compromises to make it last.
> This includes lower compression for reduced stressed, and a more
> primitive carb for simplicity. The biggest thing with the O-200 is that
> it's purpose made for the job, with giant bearing near the prop to
> handle prop loads.
>
> The Corvair was not designed to run wide open all the time, but if you
> put a $2000 crankshaft in it and add a $1000 front bearing, the crank
> becomes pretty reliable and there are few weak links left, one of which
> is the semi-rare cam gear failure (and we know what to watch for on that
> now). Rebuilds on a Corvair are pretty cheap, compared to the O-200,
> and heads and cylinders survive rather well. Corvair parts are rather
> plentiful, and simple stuff like gears are still made and cheap, rather
> than rare and expensive.
>
> Having said that, if reliability is your number one goal, the O-200 is
> the way to go. If efficiency and performance is your goal, the Corvair
> may be the way to go. Cost is probably about the same either way, as
> far as initial installation, depending on luck and scrounging ability.
>
> It's too early to tell what the TBO is on the Corvair...there just
> aren't enough hours on them yet. I'd bet serious money that it's longer
> on the Continental than the Corvair though! I don't think anybody would
> disagree with that.
>
> I have a lot invested in Corvairs, and will stick with them. They are
> far better than VWs, both in reliability and safety. And I have two of
> them ready to run already. No, I'm not trying to sell either of them.
> If I were starting over and an O-200 presented itself for a reasonable
> price, I'd seriously considering buying it. With a new 4340 crank in my
> Corvair though, I'm good with that option too, especially since they are
> both paid for.
>
>
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> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
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KR> Cross Country Planning

2016-08-18 Thread laser147 at juno.com
Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B. 
What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
"glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
engine than to radio yakking. 

I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.  

Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
big the tanks were.  

My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.

*

So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways. 
There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
 I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle! 

Mike
KSEE
Laser147 at Juno.com


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KR> Cross Country Planning

2016-08-18 Thread Doran Jaffas
I see his point and going direct has its merits at altitude but myself...I
like to see scenery and deviating around the airspace isn't a big issue for
me but then again I also own a Tri Pacer and even with the mode s installed
I avoid "big" airspace.
 On the other hand regarding weather a long time 747 Captain once said
regarding weather. " I never check weather.  The weather that's there is
the weather your gonna get". Sums it up.
   Happy flying.
D. Jaffas
On Aug 18, 2016 4:20 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
> as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
> departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
> going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
> fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B.
> What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
> "glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
> conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
> travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
> obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
> go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
> sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
> or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
> with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
> bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
> Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
> altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
> approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
> crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
> engine than to radio yakking.
>
> I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
> approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
> get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
> hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.
>
> Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
> across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
> bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
> getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
> the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
> shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
> demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
> traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
> big the tanks were.
>
> My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
> bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
> pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
> through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
> tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
> on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
> moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
> baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
> allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.
>
> *
>
> So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
> simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways.
> There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
> range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
> significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
>  I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle!
>
> Mike
> KSEE
> Laser147 at Juno.com
>
> 
> MaxWay2Profit
> The Royal Bank of Canada Wants This Video Removed for Good
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-18 Thread Chris Gardiner
Gary,
I'm using 1100 lbs on my data plate for my KR2S.
It has a VW 2180. Empty weight is 740 lbs dry.
Right within the range suggested by Mark L.
Some are fLying closer to 1200 lbs in the US.
Centre of gravity position when loaded is a critical factor to maintaining 
control .
Regards
Chris Gardiner

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> On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Gary Wold via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
>  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  

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KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-18 Thread mark jones
Mine is at 1300 and I have flown it at every bit of that weight 

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Dunedin, FL

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KR> Cross Country Planning

2016-08-18 Thread Mike T
Forget about the oxygen -- what engine and what size fuel tanks do you
have?  I'm planning on a VW, but still wondering a bit whether they're
reliable enough.

Also, are you flying on top of the weather, too?  That's how Ken Rand died.
He was flying VFR on top and ran out of gas.

Mike Taglieri

On Aug 18, 2016 4:20 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
> as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
> departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
> going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
> fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B.
> What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
> "glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
> conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
> travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
> obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
> go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
> sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
> or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
> with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
> bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
> Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
> altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
> approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
> crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
> engine than to radio yakking.
>
> I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
> approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
> get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
> hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.
>
> Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
> across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
> bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
> getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
> the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
> shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
> demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
> traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
> big the tanks were.
>
> My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
> bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
> pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
> through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
> tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
> on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
> moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
> baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
> allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.
>
> *
>
> So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
> simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways.
> There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
> range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
> significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
>  I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle!
>
> Mike
> KSEE
> Laser147 at Juno.com
>
> 
> MaxWay2Profit
> The Royal Bank of Canada Wants This Video Removed for Good
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KR> Cross Country Planning

2016-08-18 Thread Doran Jaffas
As far as the VW goes. I have flown behind several. They have basic
maintenance requirements but I trust them as much as a Lycoming or
Continental. Time between overhaul is significantly (500hrs for a starting
point)  shorter but as long as they are not overbuilt they will serve you
well. With the VW...simple is the watch word. Good crank. High quality
cylinders. Accepted and proven carburetors. Magnetos or solid state
ignition both work but again...use whats been proven.
   Fly safe but have fun.
Doran
On Aug 18, 2016 5:43 PM, "Mike T via KRnet"  wrote:

> Forget about the oxygen -- what engine and what size fuel tanks do you
> have?  I'm planning on a VW, but still wondering a bit whether they're
> reliable enough.
>
> Also, are you flying on top of the weather, too?  That's how Ken Rand died.
> He was flying VFR on top and ran out of gas.
>
> Mike Taglieri
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 4:20 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
> > as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
> > departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
> > going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
> > fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B.
> > What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
> > "glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
> > conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
> > travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
> > obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
> > go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
> > sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
> > or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
> > with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
> > bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
> > Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
> > altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
> > approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
> > crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
> > engine than to radio yakking.
> >
> > I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
> > approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
> > get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
> > hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.
> >
> > Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
> > across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
> > bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
> > getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
> > the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
> > shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
> > demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
> > traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
> > big the tanks were.
> >
> > My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
> > bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
> > pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
> > through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
> > tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
> > on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
> > moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
> > baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
> > allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.
> >
> > *
> >
> > So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
> > simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways.
> > There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
> > range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
> > significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
> >  I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle!
> >
> > Mike
> > KSEE
> > Laser147 at Juno.com
> >
> > 
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