Re: KR> Test

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Test OK

On 7/22/2019 9:05 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet wrote:

TestPaul ViskBevilleville Il.618-406-4705
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Re: KR> update on missing e-mails

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Larry, I use Thunderbird with usfamily.net as my IP. I have no problem 
with it. I get a notice if the message is suspected to be spam or 
fishing.  I use the IP for email only. about $23  per year.



On 4/14/2018 7:16 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote:



I'm still missing random e-mails from the KRnet.  I use "Thunderbird" 
e-mail program and my IP is Frontier.com that uses "Yahoo" e-mail.  
When I realize I'm missing an e-mail from the net I can go to the 
Frontier/Yahoo e-mail site and there it is marked "spam".  I highlight 
the e-mail and mark it "not spam" and I can then download it to my 
Thunderbird e-mail program.  That should fix the problem on future 
e-mails from the net but it does not.  I contacted Frontier support to 
report the problem.  They checked all my e-mail setting and they are 
correct.  It appears the problem lies in the Yahoo server somewhere.  
Are others that miss krnet e-mails using Yahoo?  The problem is very 
intermittent, no rhyme or reason.


Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> Rusty Exhaust Pipes

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Sid. guaranty for life means that when they die, their life is over and 
the guaranty is done.



On 3/1/2018 9:42 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote:

guaranty by Jet Hot



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Re: KR> Jack Cooper

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

I have called Jack's number a few times without an answer. I left a 
message one time but have received no answer.




On 11/6/2017 6:54 PM, Jim Morehead via KRnet wrote:

How is Jack Cooper I haven’t anything about for a long time. Is he still alive?

Thank you, Jim Morehead



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Re: KR> Gathering

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Sorry to say that I won't make it again this year. I really wanted to make 
this one but on Wed. night, I totaled out my Chrysler van along with a 
Volkswagen van. No one hurt even though I connected with the VW at 50mph.

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Re: KR> Mystery fasteners

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

   These are a pressure fastener. When you screw a bolt into the body 
and insert the whole thing into a hole, you turn the bolt and it 
compresses the body of the fastener and makes it spread out against the 
side of the hole. DO NOT USE ON A AIRCRAFT!!!



On 9/3/2017 2:58 PM, Rick Cochenet via KRnet wrote:

Anyone know what these fasteners are called and where can I get some? These are 
used on the plates under the wing that cover the aileron connections to accept 
the screws that hold the covers on.


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Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 186

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

On 8/29/2017 2:01 PM, Rick Cochenet via KRnet wrote:

Anybody tell me what this is? Am putting back together a KR2 that was pretty 
much in a box! It looks like they bolted to the forward spar in the cockpit on 
the front of the spar by where your legs would cross over.


For the landing gear raise and lower handle

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   2. Re:  Seat Pans (Daniel Heath)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:32:19 +0400
From: nasser almarzouqi 
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Subject: Re: KR> KR photo collection
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Each Kr has a beautiful memory,  great and excellent idea 

?? ???/???/ ?:?? ?? ??? "Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet" <
krnet@list.krnet.org>:


Hi all,

These are absolute all photos I could find to date on the KR series:

https://app.box.com/s/5evnaqy8bjv2l6yr5fvg2v302lggcrrb

Please be so kind as to take the time to help me to expand this already
huge collection by providing links where I could download even more photos.

Kind regards,

Hennie van Rooyen
South Africa


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:38:44 -0400
From: "Daniel Heath" 
To: "'KRnet'" ,"'victor taylor'"

Subject: Re: KR> Seat Pans
Message-ID: <009101d31851$39263820$ab72a860$@net>
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Sure, look here for how I built mine.



http://krbuilder.org/seats/index.html





See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics



2017 KR Gathering - KLXT Lee's Summit,  Missouri



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:40:03 -0700
From: "John Bouyea" 
To: "'KRnet'" ,"'victor taylor'"

Subject: Re: KR> Seat Pans
Message-ID: <003401d31872$f0090e20$d01b2a60$@bouyea.net>
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Victor,
And here's how I did mine; www.bouyea.net/members/JackGress
And how Mark did his; http://n56ml.com/seat.html
This comes from the KRNet; Please search the KRnet Archive for information
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Cc: Daniel Heath
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Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 186

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

On 8/29/2017 2:01 PM, Rick Cochenet via KRnet wrote:

Anybody tell me what this is? Am putting back together a KR2 that was pretty 
much in a box! It looks like they bolted to the forward spar in the cockpit on 
the front of the spar by where your legs would cross over.

Landing gear bracket

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:32:19 +0400
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Subject: Re: KR> KR photo collection
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Each Kr has a beautiful memory,  great and excellent idea 

?? ???/???/ ?:?? ?? ??? "Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet" <
krnet@list.krnet.org>:


Hi all,

These are absolute all photos I could find to date on the KR series:

https://app.box.com/s/5evnaqy8bjv2l6yr5fvg2v302lggcrrb

Please be so kind as to take the time to help me to expand this already
huge collection by providing links where I could download even more photos.

Kind regards,

Hennie van Rooyen
South Africa


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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:38:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: KR> Seat Pans
Message-ID: <009101d31851$39263820$ab72a860$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

Sure, look here for how I built mine.



http://krbuilder.org/seats/index.html





See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics



2017 KR Gathering - KLXT Lee's Summit,  Missouri



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:40:03 -0700
From: "John Bouyea" 
To: "'KRnet'" ,"'victor taylor'"

Subject: Re: KR> Seat Pans
Message-ID: <003401d31872$f0090e20$d01b2a60$@bouyea.net>
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Victor,
And here's how I did mine; www.bouyea.net/members/JackGress
And how Mark did his; http://n56ml.com/seat.html
This comes from the KRNet; Please search the KRnet Archive for information
on specific topics https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/
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Re: KR> Parting out KR 1

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Jim, Some years back I bought a Corvair engine from a fellow I think 
lived in WI. It cost me $125 to get it shipped. If you don't have luck 
with Ebay, try Craig's List. or Kbid auctions.



On 5/26/2017 4:41 PM, Jim Chuk via KRnet wrote:

Hi guys,   I've had some interest expressed in the parts for the KR 1 I'm
parting out, and between not knowing what each part is worth, and giving
everyone a shot at them, I put them on ebay today.  The adds will start to
show up about 10:30 PDT today and run for 7 days.  Here are the items I've
listed so far and the ebay item # for them.  Grove style landing gear
legs. # 292130754364  heal brake pedals and master cylinders  #
292130822443   Throttle and mixture quadrant and cables  # 292130832051
VW motor mount  # 292130843933   pair of Cleveland wheels 40-78B
#  292130843933   Nose gear and front wheel  # 292130784861   Grove 1 1/4"
axels for 40-78B wheels  # 292130801844   Cleveland 30-9 brakes  #
292130817980   Please take a look at the stuff.  If my starting prices are
to high on some things, I may lower the prices and relist them after the
auction runs out.  I've got to do some checking on truck shipping for the
VW motor before I list it, that's why it's not on ebay yet.  Thanks,  Jim
Chuk

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Jim Chuk via KRnet 
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Hi all,  I picked up a KR 1 last fall that had seen better days.  Not
wrecked or anything,, just passed around and neglected.  My intention was
to part it out, and I'm just now getting around to taking it apart.  It has
a nose wheel, aluminum main gear with Cleveland 40-78B wheels.  Hydraulic
heel brakes, VW engine that I ran last fall.  Thinking about putting the
parts on ebay, but haven't yet.  Here is a short video of the engine
running last fall. Jury rigged a small gas tank  (on the stick)  for a
quick fuel supply.  Looked like it had good oil pressure anyway.  Hr meter
showed about 430 hrs, but have no info or any history on the plane.   Any
thoughts?  Jim Chuk
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Re: KR> FAA Basic Med

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

Paul, I was the one that wrote about not being asked for a medical. I am 
aware of the problems if in an accident. I only fly my own aircraft. If I 
were asked for a med by anyone in charge and I cannot show one, what are 
they going to do? Pull my license, put me in jail? I'm 81 years old so 
neither one would amount to much. However, I am going to an FAA forum this 
afternoon for the new medical and I have not flown as PIC since I lost my 
medical in 1993. I have done a lot of flying from the right seat. I made the 
post to show that since you have to determine yourself, if you are fit to 
fly, why should you have to get a medical every two years?

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Re: KR> FAA Basic Med

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On 4/28/2017 10:37 PM, Mike T via KRnet wrote:

You've been flying LEGALLY without a medical for the past 15 years?

I have been flying since 1957. I was asked for a medical when I got my first 
license, when I rented an airplane in Nebraska, and when I took my commercial 
test, That's 60 years of flying and only had to show my medical three times.

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Re: KR> torque wrench

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

About 1980 at Air Venture, A fellow had a KR2 that had a few double 
instruments in the panel. When I asked about it, he said that he was going 
to fly it home to Switzerland and that they required a backup on some 
instruments in case one went bad. To which I asked, If two instruments have 
different readings, how do you know which one is right?

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Re: KR> Archives

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

When building my first KR2 back in the 70's, I just loaded my spars and 
fuse. into my van and drove to the FSDO's office. I walked in and told them 
I had my parts in my van and would they please come out and check them out 
and sign them off for me. No problem, I was out of there in about 10 
minutes.

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Re: KR> DAR inspections

[Patrick Driscoll via KRnet]

If push comes to shove, your wife's iron will do the job. I have removed a 
4' section from the side by using an iron. (no steam) to heat the plywood 
over the glue line and then prying up the wood and holding it up for a few 
seconds to keep it from sticking again when you move on to another area. It 
took about one hour to remove the side. (about 2' x 4').

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Re: KR> Insta-Crank

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Liquid crank???

Sounds like Mark L. on April 1st.
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KR> Hand propping VW

[Patrick Driscoll]

Joe, somewhere on the net is a drawing of a tail tie down that you can 
release from the cockpit and take with you. You can pull the chocks, climb 
into the plane and then release the tail tie down.

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KR> Jack Cooper

[Patrick Driscoll]

Jack Cooper is, (was?) a good friend of mine. I have called his home a 
number of times but got no answer. I have emailed him many times, (again 
just a  couple of days ago), and none were returned as "Not Deliverable" so 
his email is still current.
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KR> emaiI

[Patrick Driscoll]

I use usfamily.net for my email. There is a checkpoint that will
> delete the post you are answering, (check once and it works until you
> uncheck it. I highlight what I need and paste it in. I use usfamily for
> email only so it only costs 23.88 per year
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KR> Four Day Weekend Vacation?

[Patrick Driscoll]

You are a veteran, you took orders for 20 years. Now you are giving them. 
Tell them that they go alone..:-)
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KR> Regarding List Etiquette and Replies

[Patrick Driscoll]

Before we get back to the original reason for this list, let me add that my 
mail server, (usfamily.net) has a option box in the tools folder that if you 
click on the send file, there is a box to un check that says include message 
in reply. I have unchecked the box and now copy what parts of the message I 
want to include in a reply.
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KR> VW Engines

[Patrick Driscoll]

Chris said: its not necessarily cheap but a KR is about as cheap as it gets. 
and I
honestly have concluded that the VW can be acceptably reliable and
easy / cheap to maintain.

Please fellows, do not degrade the KR. The word to use is, "inexpensive".
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KR> kr2 airplane

[Patrick Driscoll]

Kelly, Hot water heater in a KR2??? Also, why would you want to heat HOT 
water?
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KR> Requested post

[Patrick Driscoll]

Andrew, No need for a full size model. I made a set of sides for my KR from 
scrap wood strips. When I get back to it, I'll make a scrap model, full size
, from firewall to the seat back. I will then use this model, (no plywood 
sides), to pre fit everything that goes into the cockpit area. I can fit and 
drill all necessary holes and all equipment, just reaching through the 
sides. I can then transfer the items to the "real" fuse without having to 
stand on my head to get to the places that need attention, ( I went to 
school on the first KR I built back in the 70's).
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KR> Flight Test Progress

[Patrick Driscoll]

Sid wrote:

Also might be an issue with my bifocals. Did I mention my stage II
cataracts? Getting old is not for wimps

Sid, I'm 80 years old. Had cataracts removed last year. No longer need 
glasses unless the print is really small or there is not much light.

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KR> Firewall Edge Finish

[Patrick Driscoll]

Just be sure that when you file or grind S/S on the firewall, you use a new 
file or grinding disc. Stainless steel will not rust? It will if you use a 
file or disc that was used on plain steel or iron.
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KR> Todays date

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark L.  It's 11:32 PM on Apr. 1 
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KR> Can this plane be fixed

[Patrick Driscoll]

Oscar got in ahead of me. The first thing I thought of when I saw the tail 
number was April fools day and had to check to see that Mark didn't post it 
himself
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KR> Archives

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark, Can you post Tom's PayPal address when you get it?
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KR> GPASC dual-plug 10mm plugs?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Brian said; It's not normally the plugs that go bad, it is the mag and at 
that point
you just lost all four plugs and things get eerily silent.

   That big fan in in front of you, that keeps you cool, also stops turning 
also. You get real sweaty, real fast.


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KR> Peter Garrison

[Patrick Driscoll]

I was going by the info on the beacon that you posted. I had read it quite a 
while ago. I was unaware of the Montana beacons. I do recall catching a 
right seat ride with a National Guard pilot in a C-45. We started in El 
Paso, TX and flew to Kansas City. He let me fly while he pointed out which 
lights to fly to. Of course, when we reached K.C. I got to line up the 
landing, Me with my SEL and about 50 hours total time. I thought I had it 
made until about a mile from the runway, he tapped me on the shoulder and 
said "I have the airplane". At least I had the dream that I was going to get 
the landing. This was in 1957.
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KR> Peter Garrison

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mike T. wrote;  I came along too late for the radio ranges, but I've read 
about them many
times in old books and articles.
I was around for radio ranges. You can see the antenna in the old 
movies. It's the little round ring that you see sticking out of the top or 
bottom of the fuse. This was replaced by the A-N range which sent out four 
signals in four different directions. If you were flying in the signal beam, 
you would get a steady tone in the radio. If you drifted off to the right of 
the center of the beam you would get a dash dot from the radio. If you 
drifted to the left you would get a  dot dash. the main problem with this 
system is that you could pick up the signal as much as 60 miles away if you 
were high enough. The spread of the beam was about 3 degrees and at 60 miles 
out the beam was 3 miles wide and you could fly in a circle and have a 
steady tone all the way. The omni range came next. Before the Radio range 
there was a system of light towers across the nation and before that there 
were large concrete arrows on the ground pointing the way for the Air Mail 
pilots. All of these systems worked into each other so at one time you had 
the light towers, the radio range and the A & N system into the fifties and 
all of them were still working when the first omni ranges came along. Point 
of interest, there is a light tower on a hill on the East side of Saint 
Paul, MN downtown airport. It is the only light marker still in operational 
use.
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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Patrick Driscoll]

I'm fer it, (MV).
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KR> KR Organization

[Patrick Driscoll]

 Joe Wallace said;
from experience, an ongoing organization must have a solid base and not all 
responsibility on one or a few?

>From experience, and many surveys, I can say that if you have 100 members in 
a group or club, 10 or less will be the mainstay and do all the work. I 
guess I can include myself in the 90% along with a whole lot of the rest of 
us, but it's not so much not wanting to help as it is not having any 
guidance as to what needs done. Asking for volunteers
will not work because 90% of the 90% will figure, someone else will do it. 
We need a structured leadership that can say what needs to be done and then 
ask for volunteers with the skill level needed to get the job done.


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KR> bean field landing

[Patrick Driscoll]

Great job in landing, Mark, but tell me, how did you get the corn to stand 
up again BEHIND the right wing in the photo of the plane in the corn?
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KR> Secondary plugs

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mike S. said;  I'm reading the insulation
breaks down over time . . . but that doesn't seem to happen with car
leads or my bike leads and they get a lot more use .

Mike, why not use same leads on the airplane?

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KR> Incredible Flying Skills

[Patrick Driscoll]

Paul said; This gives me some ideas for my first flight. : )


To hang in the air like that, you would need about 300HP and a 8' prop

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KR> Fuel handling & fires

[Patrick Driscoll]

The US Air force uses Halon extinguishers and when I was in the reserves, I 
had Halon extinguishers in my print shop. When I needed to recharge them, 
The Air Force Fire unit would do it for me for free. They no longer do it 
due to the EPA claiming that Halon is not eco friendly, so the price of 
Halon went up to $25 per pound.
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KR> Aircraft Rental Shock

[Patrick Driscoll]

In 57 they would cut out a patch from your T shirt and put your name and 
date of your first solo on it and pin it up in the clubhouse.
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KR> Aircraft Rentals Shock

[Patrick Driscoll]

Paul Visk said; I paid $32 wet at an Air Force Base aero club up in Alaska. 
Back in 1983
 Back in the 50's, the Air force aero clubs were owned and operated by the 
club members. When the Air Force took over management, they decided that 
they had to make a profit to help pay for other rec. programs, and the 
prices went way up. I bought a 7AC champ in 58 along with a couple of other 
guys and we did a lease arrangement with the aero club and paid $5.00 per 
hour wet, (all prices were wet), and then at the end of the month we 
received a $3.00 per hour rebate. The Champ cost us $1200.00.
   By the way, Paul, I did 9 months of radio repair school at Scott AFB. 
Spent a lot of time in Belleview..


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KR> Aircraft Rentals Shock

[Patrick Driscoll]

Robert wrote; Think about where those costs go. it is.. a lot disturbing. 
Flying
> should be cheaper..

   I started flying in 1957 at a SAC aero club at Davis Monthan AFB in 
Tucson, AZ. We paid $4.00 per hour for a J-3 and a Champ 7AC. $5.00 per hour 
for a Tripacer and $8.00 for a T-34. Time was free if you were flying to get 
parts or to break in an engine overhaul. For $300.00 I accumulated 84 hours 
of flying .

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KR> KR2S spruce kit

[Patrick Driscoll]

I went to Johnson Boat works in White Bear Lake, MN to get my Spruce. I 
bought a 16' x 6" x 3" for $1.50 per board foot. It cost me $5 to have a 
cabinet shop cut it down to 5/8" strips, plus had enough left over for 
spars.
Let's see now, if I remember right, that was in 1974 when I built my first 
KR2. I also bought a second board the same size and price and it hung in the 
rafters of my garage until a few years ago, when I cut it up to start 
another KR.
Sure hate to think about buying more wood these days.
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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Can we change the subject on this thread? Doesn't look like finding wood 
anymore.
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KR> Hanger Time

[Patrick Driscoll]

Hi Joe. See if you can find a way to defeat a divorce lawyer.
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 44

[Patrick Driscoll]

I am trying to remember a picture of an airplane that I saw years ago. I 
think it was a J3 with two props mounted on pylons sticking out to each side 
of the aircraft. Anyone recall seeing this?
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KR> Third Class Medical

[Patrick Driscoll]

Actually, we are now in a self certifying program. You are required to 
ground yourself if you feel you are not feeling well enough to fly.
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KR> Reduce stick pitch sensitivity

[Patrick Driscoll]

I do believe that the "pitch sensitivity" is due to the tail moment, Non 
tech. explanation, the distance between the wing trailing edge and the front 
edge of the elevator. Extending this distance, (KR2S) makes the aircraft 
less sensitive.
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KR> How long to remove wings for trailering (KR1)

[Patrick Driscoll]

There is something in the archives that shows a KR with a small tab and 
socket setup that a fellow uses that takes about 15 minutes with only one 
person, removing or installing the wings
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KR> fuel probe in tank

[Patrick Driscoll]

Patrick Flowers said;  Not necessarily so. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammability_limit#Upper_explosive_limi

In regards to Aircraft fuel tanks, I'll stand by my statement.

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KR> fuel probe in tank

[Patrick Driscoll]

The fuel itself will not burn. If a spark occurs in the fuel, nothing 
happens. If the spark occurs above the fuel level, the fumes will burn in an 
explosive manner.
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KR> project update

[Patrick Driscoll]

Larry advised,   Know what fuel you start with, know your fuel burn, and
watch the clock.

I read somewhere, quite a while ago, that there were no fuel gauges in 
fighter planes until 1948. They flew by fuel burn and time.


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KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

[Patrick Driscoll]

Looking ahead a bit, are we Dan?
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KR> Aluminum Band Saw

[Patrick Driscoll]

I bought the Harbor Freight red cutter about a year ago and have used it 
quite often with no problems. I have even worn out three metal blades with a 
whole lot of cutting.
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KR> cowl hinge mounting

[Patrick Driscoll]

About 30 years ago, I flew  Fly Baby from Minnesota to Florida. The cowl 
had a hinge and wire set-up and the wire was not secured at either end. 
Twice after landing, I had someone ask me what type of tach I was using. The 
wire would work out about 5 or 6" after about three hours flying and it 
looked like the prop would contact it each time it passed. (it wouldn't go 
out far enough to actually touch the prop). People sure thought it was a 
tach.
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KR> Jack Cooper

[Patrick Driscoll]

I have tried Jack's phone and his email with no response. Anyone have any 
information on him?
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KR> John Denver

[Patrick Driscoll]

Never heard about Denver hitting a bird. I read an article about the crash 
that said that when John tried to reach behind his shoulder, his left foot 
pushed on the rudder peddle and flipped him over and down. he was too low to 
recover. The article went on to say that NTSB set  up a simulator with the 
same configuration as John's aircraft and 10 pilots, who were not told about 
how the plane crashed, tried to switch tanks while trying to keep control of 
the aircraft and all ten crashed in the same manner as John.

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KR> KRnet down?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Guys I am getting an error message for both the krnet.org and Mark L's 
n56ml.com site.
Are they down at the moment?


If that's all you are getting, how do you know if we tell you the net is up 
and working???  ;-)



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KR> can someone reply to this test post

[Patrick Driscoll]

I got it too
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KR> ultimate flap mount

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark L. got me too. I was telling about some of the things I used to do for 
April Fools Day, just an hour ago and even knowing Mark's love of April 1, I 
still didn't think about it.
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KR> Fw: Fw: [KAS 60-61] B-36 Flight Engineer's station

[Patrick Driscoll]

Sorry people, The picture I wanted did not come through. If you want to see 
the flight engineers station on a B-36, Try this link

http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/062/B-36J%20Engineer.html



- Original Message - 
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KR> Fw: [KAS 60-61] B-36 Flight Engineer's station

[Patrick Driscoll]

If you really want to monitor your engine in your KR , this is what you need



 Now that was a Real instrument panel !





This is a 360 panorama of the flight engineers station on a B-36: Six 
reciprocating R-4360s and four J-47 jets to keep an eye on, plus fuel, 
pressurization, hydraulics, electrical, and other systems.  Steam gauge heaven!


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KR> Panel ?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mike, keep in mind that there is a difference between "Cheap"and 
"Inexpensive".
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KR> Lowest_for_Hope_Depot

[Patrick Driscoll]

Home Depot also gives a 10% veterans discount, but you have to ask for it.
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KR> Blank emails

[Patrick Driscoll]

Marc, both of them came through for me although I have received a few with 
no messages
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krnet@list.krnet.org

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  804


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KR> first to arrive

[Patrick Driscoll]

Why do they bend over. They can't see where they are going regardless of the 
weather.
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Patrick Driscoll]

I think I read somewhere on this group, that someone was using the wheels 
from wheel skates, (or whatever they are called). It seems that they bought 
the skates from a thrift shop and had 8 or 10 wheels for just a few bucks. 
They had to replace them often but for the price, they thought it was worth 
the trouble.
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KR> Glass cloth shelf life

[Patrick Driscoll]

Sid said  - Fiber glass cloth has a sizing coating on each strand to help 
the epoxy
resin to bond to the glass. The shelf life for most fiber glass sizing is
five years. After that time the wetting out with the resin becomes more
difficult and will result in a weaker structure. The older the cloth the
worse the situation will be.

I posted this question to the group some time ago and was told that there is 
no end shelf life on fiber glass cloth. Would someone in the industry, (If 
there is someone in the group), please check in and clear this up.

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KR> Engine Preheat

[Patrick Driscoll]

I guess I thought this was an auto dipstick heater. I'll read the 
descriptions next time.
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KR> Engine Preheat

[Patrick Driscoll]

Dan, I would look into this a little more. The dipstick heater is made for 
an auto engine with a long dipstick. Make sure you can still get the heat if 
you cut it shorter.
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KR> Jack Cooper Update

[Patrick Driscoll]

Thanks for the update Mark, As long as I have known Jack, I still forget 
that his name is Robert.
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KR> Shop Heat

[Patrick Driscoll]

Robert, I use a small electric heater from Menards. It hangs from the 
ceiling and keeps the UNINSULATED garage at about 60 degrees. It is however 
a 220V heater so you need that much voltage.
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KR> fuel tank sight gauge tubing?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark, go to a furniture store and see if they have a busted foam chair, (big 
ball chair). The foam is in little balls that would fit  the tube.
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KR> KRGATHERING ORG

[Patrick Driscoll]

I just tried to get on the gathering website and got a message that the site 
could not be found. I even tried thru KR net link and got the same message.
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KR> GATHERING WEATHER AND OTHER IDEAS

[Patrick Driscoll]

with God willing and the creeks don't rise.

Mark, I hate to be one to correct  another person, (not really, I have a 
ball doing it/), but the saying you used above is actually a response from a 
Senator, (don't recall his name), who was asked to come to Washington, (back 
in the 1700's) and sent a reply saying, "I'll be there if the good Lord's 
willing and the Creek don't rise". The reference to the Creek was to a tribe 
of Indians called the Creek, who were giving the settlers trouble at the 
time.
Now you are almost as smart as I am.




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KR> Re: KRSuper2

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mike. I am a KR2S builder and have also built a KR 2 (1975-1985). I had not 
heard of  Scott Watts before now, however, I was not the one that made the 
statement, that I had never heard of him. That was Oz from down under
   Patrick Panzera also made the same statement. I am glad you told me to 
check the history. I had overlooked that
and you are right, there is a lot of info there.
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KR> Attaching the Floor

[Patrick Driscoll]

Steve said:IMPORTANT and ALWAYS when sanding any wood that will receive 
glue. Use
compressed air (Nozzle held close to wood) and clean up the sanded areas.
This will help in opening the pores in the wood to assist with the glue.

I would not use compressed air as it could drive the sawdust into the open 
pores of the wood. I was told to always use a wire brush. just a couple of 
swipes will clear the pores.

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KR> Re: RAF 48 airfoil

[Patrick Driscoll]

Lee Van Dyke said;   Does anybody have a digital version of the RAF 48 that 
I can take to Kinkos

I downloaded Mark L's drawings to a disk and took it to Kinko;s and they 
gave me a full size printout that I used to cut out the ribs

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KR> Late post

[Patrick Driscoll]

Soirry about the late post on the gathering flyers. I had just set up a new 
desktop and coulden't get the outgoing mail to send until just now.

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KR> Gathering

[Patrick Driscoll]

I think that Mark's idea is great, we should get morer info out and IMHO the 
best way is to come up with a flyer and email it to all on the list and each 
one make as many copies as they can hand out .

Mark wrote:
I talked to Joe last night and he mentioned that we really should do more to
promote the Gathering, such as publish it in Sport Aviation and other
magazines and internet sites and lists, as well as  local airport flyers,
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KR> Gathering Weather

[Patrick Driscoll]

According to Pat Driscoll

60% chance of no rain on Thursday

100% chance of no rain on Friday

80 % chance of no rain on Saturday

60%chance of no rain on Sunday so go ahead with your plans to fly out.

THINK POSITIVE!!!


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KR> Jabaru vs corvair torque

[Patrick Driscoll]

Somewhere I found a set of plans and how to for making a torque measuring 
device using a VW wheel as the back of the motor mount and a 6',  2"x4" 
placed on a scale so that as the engine turned up the RPM's you could read 
the torque in foot pounds at any RPM and the guy used a 2"x4" for a prop so 
I don't think the prop has a lot to do with the torque. I have the drawings 
somewhere and if I can find them I'll give them to Mark L. to post on his 
site.  I haven't tried to find them on the internet because I've had these 
plans since the early 80's

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KR> BMW engine v VW and Corvair

[Patrick Driscoll]

I remember a article in (I believe) Popular Mechanics back in about 1973. 
The author was in a  Cessna 150 chase plane(?)and had photos of Ken Rand in 
the first KR-1. The KR-1 was actually flying circles around the 150 and I 
think the author said that the KR was doing about 150 MPH. That's when I 
called Ken and ordered plans for the 2 place when he finished drawing them 
up.
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KR> Fw: [eaa54_members] some cool footage.

[Patrick Driscoll]

Not KR 2 or Covair related but still some great aircraft film and after all, it 
is Friday, (Yesterday)
- Original Message - 



http://sleepingdogtv.com/


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KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 353, Issue 148, Message 1.

[Patrick Driscoll]

Charles Brown said; I'm going to dust off the plans and get started on my KR 
1.

   Do yourself a favor Charles, with not much more investment of time or 
money, you could build a KR2 and have a nice comfortable single place cross 
country aircraft.
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KR> RE: Glenda McElwee email to KR list

[Patrick Driscoll]

I got Glenda's email and didn't like the looks of it so I just deleted it. 
Thought I'd wait and see if anyone else caught it and if not, I was going to 
email Glenda and ask if it was ligit.
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KR> Fwd: KR right choice?

[Patrick Driscoll]

Larry, I got your first post OK. Check your spam folder
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KR> (no subject)

[Patrick Driscoll]

When I started flying in 1957, tail wheel was the only way to go. We did 
have a Tri-Pacer in the SAC Aero Club,(Davis Monthan AFB, AZ), but that was 
about a year after I started flying and the first trike gear I flew. On my 
second time in the air, with a different instructor than the first time, my 
new instructor told me to go ahead and taxi out and then told me to take 
off. He was under the impression that I had about 5 hours in the air. At 
that time I had about 50 minutes just getting use to the controls. I managed 
to get airborne after touching both sides of the runway, (about 50 feet 
wide) and making a low  pass at the hanger area. My instructor had the 
nerves of a lion going after a piss-ant. He said "That was a little rough, 
lets go around and try it again." Then after that take off he told me to 
land the airplane,(Champ 7AC). Never have I seen an instructor with that 
much guts. I did manage to get it on the ground but I suspect I had some 
help from the back seat. It was the that he asked me how much time I had. 
When I told him I had less than an hour of air work only, he said lets go 
try that again! I took off again with nothing but verbal instructions from 
him and also landed with just verbal instructions.
   TAIL DRAGGERS are easy
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KR> KR2S for sale/Calling it a Motorglider

[Patrick Driscoll]

Harold said; You cannot just call it a Motor glider as tempting as it might 
be there is a
definition out there regarding what qualifies... the more stringent being 
"the
maximum weight to wing span squared can not exceed 3.0 kg/m2 (0.62 
lb./ft2)".

All details are outlined in Advisory Circular 21.17-2A.

 I checked on 21.17-2A. If you look at the introduction, it is an advisory 
for "certification" of gliders and motor gliders.

   I have no intention of certifying my aircraft.
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KR> KR2S for sale

[Patrick Driscoll]

The FAA also says that we are responsible to self assess ourselves on rather
>or not we are medically fit to fly rather we qualify for a medical or not,
>and if you have failed a FAA medical you do not qualify for LSA.


I lost my medical after a heart attack in 1993. I also cannot afford to jump 
through the hoops every year. I also know my limitations and would not fly 
if I were not in top shape. My flight doc. said that there was no reason 
that I should not have my medical renewed so I took the physical and was 
turned down. That eliminates me from getting a LSA.
   I will register my aircraft as a motor glider and fly.  I would like 
someone to check the FAA's records and see if there was anyone that had a 
second heart attack while flying or who had had a medical related crash 
after getting a special use medical.


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KR> KR2S for sale

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark L. said;   keep it light, name it something other than
"KR2S",  register it as a light sport and you're in business without selling
your project.

It's my understanding that the FAA say's that your aircraft is what you say 
it is. If you call it a powered glider you can fly it without a medical. You 
also can fly at any speed and at night. You do have to have a glider 
endorsement on your ticket.

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KR> Fw: [eaa54_members] Fwd: A New Engine !

[Patrick Driscoll]

- Original Message - 

Don't want to downgrade the Corvair engine, (I've got 3 of them) but this is 
something to look at.

! 





The applications are unlimited!


Saving the World Two Strokes at a Time 


This is no wimp engine. 
It's a two cylinder with four pistons delivering 300+ Horse Power
It's extremely small and very efficient and is presently in use in test 
applications 
The configuration below is equivalent to a extremely ballsy four cylinder 
engine 
When doubled, it's an extremely ballsy 600+ H.P. engine




It?s called OPOC (Opposed Piston Opposed Cylinder), and it?s a turbocharged 
two-stroke, two-cylinder, with four pistons, two in each cylinder, that will 
run on gasoline, diesel or ethanol. The two pistons, inside a single cylinder, 
pump toward and away from each other, thus allowing a cycle to be completed 
twice as quickly as a conventional engine while balancing it's own loads.
The heavy lifting for this unconventional concept was performed Prof. Peter 
Hofbauer. During his 20 years at VW, Hofbauer headed up, among other things, 
development of VW?s first diesel engine and the VR6.
The OPOC has been in development for several years, and the company claims it?s 
30 percent lighter, one quarter the size and achieves 50 percent better fuel 
economy than a conventional turbo diesel engine.
They?re predicting 100 MPG in a conventional car.


For a good demo, See: 
http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder











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KR> Re:Gathering date change

[Patrick Driscoll]

Larry, don't buy any meds.
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KR> Re:Gathering date change

[Patrick Driscoll]

I would really like to have any date except the 16th & 17th. Joanne has a 
Pow-Wow in Mankato, MN on that date. She has gone to the Pow-Wow every year 
for the past 30 years except last year when she came to the gathering with 
me when the dates conflicted. If need be then 16th & 17 are OK as she will 
go to the Pow-Wow and I will go to the gathering. This was done a couple of 
times before but she really enjoys going with the gals while we look at 
airplanes.
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KR> Foam cutting large scale

[Patrick Driscoll]

Sure blew the hell out of all the estimates for your first 1,000 hours;
Here are the two that came near?

  William W

 Dec.16,2009

 5:16 PM
 CST


  Ron Lendon

 Dec 16 2009

 4:05 PM EST



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KR> 'Rectangular' boat building

[Patrick Driscoll]

When I started my first KR2 back about 74, I called Ken and asked about the 
square sides. He told me to go ahead and do it. He said he made the bottom 
less wide than the top because he liked the looks of it.
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KR> KR-2 project for sale - reskinning

[Patrick Driscoll]

Original Message
What would be a good procedure for removing existing fuselage skin and leave
surfaces good for applying new skin?




If you must remove the skin, try using a steam iron. let it set on the first 
part of the area you want to remove and when it gets real hot, just use a 
wedge to lift the plywood up and slip a sheet of paper between the longeron 
and the skin. Continue doing this until all the skin is removed. I used this 
method to remove a skin that was installed wrong, it worked very well
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KR> Craigs Seafury

[Patrick Driscoll]

Pat, try Microsoft matrix. It's a free website designer and is on Your 
computer.
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KR> Return

[Patrick Driscoll]

   I guess I get the award for the longest way home from the gathering.
   Jo and I drove to Fayetteville, NC right after the banquet and stayed there 
for 8 days and left on Monday morning, (09/27) and drove to Jack & Sandy 
Cooper's home. We spent the night there and left yesterday morning at about 
11:30. We drove through the night and arrived home this morning at 7:30. We 
also had to stop back at Berea, KY to retrieve two pillows we left at the motel.
   Had a very good time at Jack & Sandy's house and also a very good meal. 

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KR> Weather

[Patrick Driscoll]

Gary wrote:   All settled in for the night. Me the wife and some turkey 

Is that Mark J?
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KR> Gathering

[Patrick Driscoll]

Leaving in about an hour for the gathering. Going to IL for two nights and will 
be there Fri. afternoon.
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