KR> Torque

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Sorry, I meant for the bolts holding the inboard and outboard
 spars together, Virg


 On 8/31/2015 3:23 PM, Nerobro via KRnet wrote:
> I thought the limit on the WAF was the crush strength of the wood as
> opposed to the strength of the bolts?
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Virgil N.Salisbury via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>>  There is information some where as to the torque for each size
>>  bolt and thread pitch. A good reference, Virg
>>
>>
>>

KR> Reaming WAFs

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 There is information some where as to the torque for each size
 bolt and thread pitch. A good reference, Virg


 On 8/31/2015 2:15 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet wrote:
> And that is almost how they are done on the Mustang 2.  Those without
> folding wings use a bolt and nut, but when using folding wings you use a
> bolt ground to a bullet shaped end instead of threads and just bang it
> in the hole.  The wing gap seal has a piece on it that keeps them from
> being able to back out.
>
> However, on the KR I do recommend a nut and if you are putting it on
> might as well torque it correctly.  Since you have two relatively thin
> WAFs that can be bent a bit it is best to have them clamped together so
> the bolt is really loaded only in shear as designed.
>

KR> KR Gathering

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 O K, Lighten up. Chuckle, chuckle, Virg


 On 8/31/2015 10:30 AM, Mike Arnold via KRnet wrote:
> That supposed to be the letter K and the letter R and two not cartoons
> On Aug 31, 2015 9:29 AM, "Mike Arnold"  wrote:
>
>> My wife and I are going to take the motorhome out for a few days this
>> weekend how can I find some kartoos within driving distance of Springfield
>> Missouri
>> On Aug 31, 2015 8:42 AM, "Dan Prichard via KRnet" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the weather forecast for the event will be great. Sunny, winds
>>> out of the NW and temps in the 70's. Smoke from the wild fires should stay
>>> to the East of Mt Hood.
>>>
>>> Dan Prichard
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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KR> Foam, peel ply and tank vents...

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 In the 70's it was $16.00 for that same size. Figure in Inflation 
and see
 what it would be, Virg


 On 8/26/2015 11:11 PM, Bill Masquelier via KRnet wrote:
> I just checked on the price of extruded polystyrene at Whitecap- it is $76 
> per sheet (2" x 4' x 8'). Does that sound anything near appropriate? It 
> sounds about 4 times as expensive as I would have thought!
> Bill Masquelier
>
>

KR> Fuel Capacity

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The first part of  a relief tube is uphill. Residual fluid has to
 go somewhere. Think Gravity, Virg


 On 8/24/2015 5:19 PM, Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet wrote:
> However, relief tubes do not require dumping?!
>
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
>
>> about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".
>> These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.
>
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KR> Is this the correct foam?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Bill, Try and find 2#/cu ft Polyurethane foam, Virg


 On 8/22/2015 1:43 AM, Bill Masquelier via KRnet wrote:
> I have been searching for large pieces of foam for the KR2
> Is this the best (or at least a usable) source for the correct stuff?
> http://www.atsacoustics.com/item--Owens-Corning-703--1002.html?d=GPGEN01&kw=1002-703-2S
>
> Thanks
> BillM
>   
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KR> dropped valve

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 8/4/2015 8:35 AM, Earl Klinker via KRnet wrote:
> Mark,
>
>  The #3 cylinder was then the hottest running cylinder.
 The VW distributor had a 2 degree offset so the timing was later
 than the other cylinders to keep it cooler, Virg
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KR> Fwd: KR Gathering Shirt & Hat

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 AMEN, Virg


 On 7/30/2015 2:24 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
> Dan,
>
> It's so all your OLD airplane friends have a place to put their reading 
> glasses.  For some strange reason, I stopped buying shirts without pockets 
> some 15 years ago. :o)
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Lost Almost, NM
>
>

KR> So, any 'good ideas' for paint?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Rust O Lem ? Virg


 On 7/25/2015 4:49 PM, Dave Acklam via KRnet wrote:
> Simply put, my effort to complete my KR is progressing along nicely...
>
>
>
> I want a nice, smooth paintjob like I see on so many of you guys' planes..
>
> I'd also like a locally-obtainable variety of paint (eg, one that does not
> have to be ordered from Aircraft Spruce... Stuff from Sherwin Williams
> works) that doesn't require me to wear SCUBA gear to spray, and that won't
> crack/peel like 80s hardware-store latex
>
>

KR> Nvaero plans/supplements

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 THANK YOU A WHOLE BUNCH Steve. I appreciate what you are doing.
 As a friend use to say " Blessings on you ", Virg


 On 6/16/2015 11:55 PM, Steve G. via KRnet wrote:
> Can we please put this to rest. While there have been issues with plans and 
> availability both on of our parts I cannot say that all of that was Jeanette. 
> It is a 45 mile trip each way for me to get plans. I was only getting a few 
> at a time which made it difficult especially with my work schedule. I took a 
> break after the gathering last year because of all the BS and whining 
> regarding KR stuff and needed a breather.
>
> Any current plans orders will be filled shortly. We are nearly caught up on 
> parts orders so the wait times should not be as much as before. I am spending 
> more time at the hanger since purchasing Ellison Fluid Systems and we are 
> beginning to produce new carburetors as well as provide overhaul service. 
> Keep in mind I still work a regular job. It is 8:40 pm my time and I am just 
> getting off work and heading to the hanger.  I am voice writing this email as 
> I drive.
>
> Jeanette Rand is a great lady and has given most of her life's to the KR 
> design.  While many may not have agreed with how she has done business, she 
> has always been honest and provided what was ordered. I think any public 
> bashing is not necessary or appreciated.
>
> Anyone is free to bash away regarding me or nV Aero. As most know, I could 
> give a rats ass. I will get people's orders as quickly as I can.  But again 
> keep in mind I have to work a real job and this is typically about when I get 
> off work every day after starting about 530 in the morning. The KR business 
> has never paid for itself. It has always been out-of-pocket. I do it because 
> I love the design and believe in having an affordable plane for the average 
> guy.  If you have ordered parts they will come I can assure you. Hopefully 
> things will come a bit sooner now.
>
> Steve Glover
>

KR> Nvaero plans/supplements

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Jeanette has dine a lot for the KR community besides the
 plans. I have been a supporter of her since 1974., Virg


 On 6/16/2015 11:26 PM, Mike T via KRnet wrote:
> I was asking for the reason for the delay, not trying to blame Steve. It's
> obviously Jeanette Rand's fault.  Ken Rand died when the design of the KR
> was still evolving and the plans were little more than a first draft.  It's
> tragic  there was never anyone else at Rand-Robinson who was interested in
> correcting the errors in the plans and improving the KR's design.  (Of
> course many people here have done that, but you aren't the official
> supplier, so the defective plans keep getting sold and everyone has to
> rediscover the errors afresh).
>
> If Ken had been a careful pilot and stuck around awhile, he could have
> been another Burt Rutan, and the KR could have been the first of many
> brilliant designs.  Instead Rand-Robinson became a printing shop
> that did little for 40 years but reprint and sell the same set of plans,
> and now they apparently can hardly even do that.
>
> Mike Taglieri
> On Jun 16, 2015 10:33 PM, "Virgil N.Salisbury via KRnet" <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>>  Lighten up Mike. Walk in Steve's shoes for a while. If you want
>>  to discourage some from building any KR, you are doing a bang
>>  up job, Virg
>>  Broad shoulders, Thick skin !
>>
>>

KR> Nvaero plans/supplements

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Lighten up Mike. Walk in Steve's shoes for a while. If you want
 to discourage some from building any KR, you are doing a bang
 up job, Virg
 Broad shoulders, Thick skin !


 On 6/16/2015 6:34 PM, Mike T via KRnet wrote:
> What's the reason for these extraordinary delays?  Lots of older plansbuilt
> plane designs (some going back to the 1950s) have let Aircraft Spruce take
> over the printing and shipping of plans.  If nvaero isn't able to handle
> it, maybe they should consider that.  (Or are they getting the plans from
> Jeanette Rand?)  Whoever it is, this could make people give up before they
> even start.
>
> Mike Taglieri
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Robert Dunleavy via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I ordered my plans in early Feb. , Emailed nvaero about the status last
>> week, got a prompt reply which indicated the plans should be shipping out
>> soonrobert
>>
>>
>>

KR> rudder stops

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 At the rudder pedals, Virg


 On 6/7/2015 7:01 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet wrote:
> Hey Guys, Looks like I'll be doing Rudder stops as an afterthought. What's 
> the best place and method for this ?
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
>
> Cell no.205-966-3854  
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 123

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Was  that a KR-2 built for one person ? Virg


 On 5/18/2015 6:38 PM, hepporter--- via KRnet wrote:
> Interested in the KR-1 can I get email info?
> Thanks
>
>> On May 19, 2015, at 1:02 AM, Randall Smith via KRnet > list.krnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> If you are looking for a flying KR 1 I have I will let go to $4000. It used 
>> to belong to less Palmer. There are some pictures on a couple KR flying 
>> sites and if you email me direct I will some recent pictures.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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KR> change

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

Need to drop facilitator1 and use only virgnvs

KR> anyone using a redrive on small VW engine

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Add a Force One Bearing, Virg


 On 4/25/2015 8:32 PM, Marty Martin via KRnet wrote:
> I have always heard of crank shafts braking when used as direct drives.  I
> know that if you use a redrive there is a weight penalty.  But does the
> safety factor go up as well.
>
> I have found a 1776 cc VW engine real cheap.  It is brand new and has been
> pickled and sitting for about 8 years.  The lady wants $250.  With that in
> mind, would the redrive be a good idea.  I think I would like to buy the
> engine if anyone can tell me of a redrive and their performance and safety.
>
> Thank you
>
> Marty Martin
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KR> 2015 Gathering Web Page

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Same here, Virg


 On 4/8/2015 4:17 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
> great work! but (for me), the years before 2001 just show a row of generic 
> thumbnails and no pictures...
>
>

KR> Halon

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Double check that info. Halon in buildings was safe to breathe
 while evacuating the building. DO NOT BE SMOKING THOUGH,
 Virg


 On 4/6/2015 5:56 PM, Bill Wood via KRnet wrote:
> Not sure what the laws are in the US but in Canada, Halon was pulled many 
> years ago. It is one of the most efficient fire suppression systems around 
> except for the fact the chemical reaction with fire creates a fatal poisonous 
> gas. I don't think i would use it in my aircraft.
>
> Just my $0.02 worth.
>

KR> 15 year life on Control Cable and fittings

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 4/2/2015 8:53 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote:
> At 02:52 PM 4/2/2015, you wrote:
>> As Sid correctly points out, all the listed fittings are Swaged 
>> fittings.  When the cable is swaged inside a sleeve, it is impossible 
>> to inspect inside the sleeve for corrosion.
> 
>  
>
>
> I had all my cables Swaged at the local University aviation 
> maintenance training school.  Should I be concerned?
>
> Larry Flesner
>
 I thought that this was an Australian problem ? Virg
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KR> Pilots and Landings

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 3/25/2015 10:58 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> Adam Tippin wrote:
>
> >>   I'm building a KR2S widened. 43 @ longeron shouldres.
> I'm a builder, not a pilot as of yet. I told a friend I wanted to 
> build a plane. Tim Stringer suggested the KR. So I researched all the 
> quality and quirks. I fell in love. I know I will get my license. But 
> Do you think I'm putting the kart in front of the horse?
> I would enjoy your HO's<<
 Has anybody tried to fly the KR at 1 foot above the runway ?
 Then go around for the landing. Get your sight  picture for
 landing and just let it settle down. WATCH YOUR SPEED,
 Virg

KR> Pilots and Builders

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 It would be hard to be building and learning to fly at the same
 time. You would enjoy both so much that you would have
 a hard time doing both. The KR  handles so much different
 as it is a high performance hot rod, not a 152 truck. Schedule
 your priorities and have a ball, Virg


 On 3/25/2015 8:42 AM, CraigW via KRnet wrote:
> Go for it, the KR is a great choice...but, the KR is not for a novice pilot.
>   You need to get the licence and progress to more advanced aircraft before
> flying the KR.  I am sure others will chime in on this so I will just say
> welcome and enjoy building the plane.  I'll actually be sad when mine is done.
>   I love the building part.
>   
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
> www.flightwidgets.com
>   
>   
>   
> ch 25, 2015 at 7:40 AM Adam via KRnet  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a builder, not a pilot as of yet.
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KR> : Flight costs

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Might as well chime in here. Hunstvill Air Service, 1953/54.
  $7.00 for J-3 or PA-11 wet and $3.50 for the Instructor.
 I do not remember the cost of fuel, Virg


 On 3/24/2015 9:21 AM, Steve Bray via KRnet wrote:
>>
>>
>> I started flying in 1957 at a SAC aero club at Davis Monthan AFB in
>> Tucson, AZ. We paid $4.00 per hour for a J-3 and a Champ 7AC. $5.00 per
>> hour
>> for a Tripacer and $8.00 for a T-34. Time was free if you were flying to
>> get
>> parts or to break in an engine overhaul. For $300.00 I accumulated 84 hours
>> of flying .
>>
>> Patrick Driscoll
>> Saint Paul, MN
>> patrick36 at usfamily.net
>> www.pensbypat.com
>> If you can read this, Thank a teacher
>> If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
>>
>>
>> What a rip off.
>>
>   After only 25 years the AF aero club had increased their prices by 33%.
> I had to pay %12 per hr. wet fro a Navion, Mooney or T-34. Image, paying
> that much for a retract high performance complex FUN aircraft. Being old
> has its good parts. I flew up my entire G I bill having fun supposedly
> working on my commercial that I didn't want any.
>   When I got out Memphis NAS was selling their T-34's for $10K each, a whole
> row of them, you pick .
>   Back in the real world I could not afford to fly and didn't for another
> twenty years. I messed up,or got lucky and got a ride and it all started
> again I traded a truck for a VolksPlane.
>
> Steve Bray
> Uncompleted KR2
> 1941 Piper J-5A.
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KR> KR-1 prototype info

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I think 1" to the foot would be great, Virg


 On 3/12/2015 7:43 PM, Graham via KRnet wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Graham Banham, and i'm a model builder in the UK. I'm looking to 
> build a model of Ken Rand's KR-1 prototype after the fitment of the bubble 
> canopy.
>
> Does anyone know of a source for a three view general arrangement drawing of 
> this aircraft, and photographs?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Graham
>
> Sent from my iPad
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 44

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 2/13/2015 4:52 PM, Patrick Driscoll via KRnet wrote:
> I am trying to remember a picture of an airplane that I saw years ago. 
> I think it was a J3 with two props mounted on pylons sticking out to 
> each side of the aircraft. Anyone recall seeing this?
> Patrick Driscoll
 Yes just recently, Virg

KR> Touchdown speed

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Touchdown should = 1.3xVstall. 52 X 1.3 = 67.6


 On 2/13/2015 3:25 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote:
>> "Touchdown should be at about 70 mph"
> For a KR that's just plain ridiculous.
>

KR> Two propeller system?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Finish building and FLY ! Experiment later, Virg

 On 2/13/2015 7:16 AM, Pierre via KRnet wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   
>
> I have searched all over the internet and couldn't find any planes with one
> engine, but two (side by side) propellers. I had a young friend help me with
> my KR2S and he suggested it last night. First I dismissed the idea right of
> the bat, but after a nearly sleepless night, I think it just might
> work Two props = nearly twice the thrust? I don't think the engine
> will strain too much, although it might help if the props are a bit
> smaller.. Two pulleys on the crank and two cam belts running to each side of
> the engine to drive a prop. If one fails you still have a "spare" as wellJ
>
>

KR> Wing bolts

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Isn't this specified on the plans ? Virg


 On 2/12/2015 10:19 AM, dean choitz via KRnet wrote:
> What bolts do you use to fasten wing attach fittings to each other an3-5a
> on tear and an6-7a or an6-6a only my guess
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KR> EFS carbs/ethanol

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I am interested in your top mounted carb, Virg


 I think that's because it's mounted below your engine. Heat from 
the engine is forced/drawn into the low pressure side. Up on top, my 
Ellison gets a steady stream of fresh intake air and I  've never had 
any problem with vapor lock or hot starting.

KR> Fw: Actual KR1 empty weights?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 James, the original KR-1 claimed 100 MPH @ 1 Gal/Hr, Virg


 On 2/5/2015 2:19 AM, James Cook via KRnet wrote:
> Chris,
>
>
>
> (My personal goal is to have a single seater with 100mph economy cruise
> with a 1000 mile range with the smallest practical engine, so that is why
> weight is important for me).
>
>

KR> Reduce stick pitch sensitivity

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Why not decrease the Elevator  area ? This would increase the Stab 
to Elev ratio.. Virg


 On 2/5/2015 1:35 AM, Dave_A via KRnet wrote:
> I think the pitch sensitivity is more a function of the design - 
> specifically the elevator:horiz-stab surface area ratio...
>
>
>
> On 2/4/2015 10:17 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
>> I see this comment a lot. Is there a way KR builders reduce that 
>> pitch sensitivity by bringing the cable attach points on the stick 
>> 30% closer together or something?
>>

KR> Actual KR1 empty weights?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 And on 36 Hp, Virg


 2/3/2015 2:12 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
>
>   Ken Rand's claimed 310lb empty
> weight?  Never heard of one.  
>
>
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KR> Great Plains

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Thank You Steve. K R Dinners, Gatherings and all that.
 ENJOY, Virg


 On 2/2/2015 3:18 PM, STEVE via KRnet wrote:
> Steve is not the youngest kid on the block anymore.  An opportunity came 
> along to sell Great Plains to Marty Roberts that was good for both of us.  
> Linda and our son Scott will continue to do the landing gear, wheels, brakes, 
> tires and tubes (OKeefeAero.com).  Linda and I both have a desire to do a 
> little sight seeing around the US with our F350 and 5th wheel, and the sale 
> of Great Plains to Marty will allow us to do that.
>   
>
>
> Steve Bennett
>
>
>
>
>   
>   
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KR> Zenith Carb Installation

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Thank you Sid. I would be looking for a true side draft carb, Virg


 On 2/2/2015 11:00 AM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote:
> The Zenith carb model 14998 has been used on tens of thousands of farm 
> tractors and industrial engines.  Zenith carbs and repair parts and 
> kits are only sold through retail dealers. Prices vary.  The model 
> 14998 is an updraft carb with a side draft air entrance.
>
>
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KR> VW mount evolution

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 2/2/2015 5:24 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
> In the old KR1 cutaway, it seems to show channel iron with rubber mounts 
> against the firewall, and the back of the VW is mounted to that. Now it seems 
> more traditional mounts are in use. I vaguely recall from 25 years ago 
> reading that there was a reason for getting off that, but I don't recall what 
> it is.
> Anyone have any info on that? 
>
>
 It was Aluminum channel and put things too close to the firewall, Virg

KR> Zenith Carb installation

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Is that a side draft carb ? And for which engine ? Virg


 On 2/1/2015 9:32 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote:
> After 4 flights I made a new bracket to mount the Bowden cable 
> throttle installation for the Zenith carb.
> Thanks to Chris Gardiner and Chris Prata for their advice and help on 
> this carb re-work.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>
>
>
>
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KR> ADS-B and homebuilts

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Chris, Your idea is a good one. Mr B said, install a battery and 
starter.
 Recharge the battery at night and fly the next day, Virg


 On 1/30/2015 9:43 AM, Chris Kinnaman via KRnet wrote:
> "One exception is aircraft certified without an electrical system. 
> Maybe my purist idea to replicate Ken Rand's KR1 should hold true and 
> include no electrical system (hand prop). Thoughts?"
>
>
> Bingo!
>
> The only thing I don't like about the VW is the inability to air-start 
> it. I'm leaning toward a starter & battery with no alternator. An 
> engine driven charging/storage system is the deciding factor about 
> what constitutes an "electrical system". No requirement for a Xponder 
> with this setup either. My flying will never intentionally be anywhere 
> near airspace requiring ATC.
>
> Chris
>
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KR> (no subject)

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Flew all around that area in 1953/1954 when at Redstone. Learned to 
fly there,
 Virg


 On 1/24/2015 10:20 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> My plan for the day was to fly down to Pat Shows' place in Mississippi 
> to see his KR collection for sale, but I ran out of time and decided 
> to just fly around the patch, literally.  I did a big loop around 
> Huntsville, landing at 10 airports in less than three hours, climbing 
> as high as 6500' between airports, and burning 9.8 gallons of fuel in 
> the process.
>
> My main goal was to become more familiar with the iFly 720 and iEFIS 
> as navigation aids, improve my approaches to strange airports, and to 
> practice some crosswind landings.  It was windy and gusty, mostly 
> crosswinds, and I gained a little more confidence during the 
> flightdidn't manage to roll it up in a ball!  See enclosed flight 
> path.
>
> I was pushing my luck with sundown on the way back, and started 
> wondering if anybody's surveyed the LED nav-light and strobe scene 
> lately.  I think it's time for N891JF to sprout some nav lights and 
> strobes.  I have a new Whelan Comet Flash that I'll likely use for 
> strobes, but I'm sure LED nav-lights have come a long way since I 
> bought the three for N56ML over 10 years ago.
>
>
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KR> Spoilers & Flaps

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I think that that was DUMBO from Marietta Ga. Outran his folks 
Beechcraft, Virg


 On 1/21/2015 3:09 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote:
> I'm posting this link again of Randy Hebron's KR-1 taildragger with
> spoilers and full-span flaps.  This article is from 1980.  Early days.  A
> lot of what is under discussion re KR mods were done early on.
>
> http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/Kr80-8.HTM
>
> "With its updraft cooling, full span flaps, spoilers, and GAPC-1 airfoil,
> the highly-modified KR-1 was capable of a top speed of 179 MPH on a
> 1600cc VW engine and a stall speed in the 45 MPH range. While competing
> in the Lowers-Baker-Falck 500 efficiency and speed competition in 1981,
> Randy?s highly modified KR-1 was a strong contender. In fact, during the
> Baker portion of the competition, Randy and his KR-1 took 2nd place."
> Here is another article on one of Randy's airplanes.
>
> http://www.eaa.ca/experimenter/articles/2009-05_volmer.asp
>
> also
>
> http://www.eaa.ca/experimenter/issues/0905.html
>
> Randy is a member of EAA Chapter 113 and would be worth tracking down for
> anyone wanting to discuss KR mods in general, spoilers in particular.
>
> Mike
> KSEE
> 
> Death of Cable
> What Your Cable Company Doesn???t Want You to Know
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54c007bf64aed7bf48f4st02vuc
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KR> generator emissions

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 1/17/2015 11:13 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> KRnetHeads,
>
>
>
> But the most surprising thing about the flight was that with no 
> generator charging it, the battery only dropped .2V in an hour of 
> flight!  This is a 6 year-old Odyssey 680 AGM battery that started 
> N56ML for years.  The Compufire is supposed to fire down to 7V...and 
> then I have the backup battery at the flip of a switch.
>
> I have a new 680 that I bought during the starting troubles that 
> appeared the day of the planned Chino flight.  Might as well swap them 
> and put the old one in place of the backup.  Maybe I don't even need a 
> generator anymore!  just kiddin' there.
>
> I guess it's time to relearn how to use this ancient-but-expensive 
> oscilloscope I inherited from Jim Hill several years ago...

 Tony B said " Put a starter on your plane. Recharge the battery 
every night.
 At fly in's, you will get 17 starts  before your battery will cause 
a problem"
 Saves quite a bit of Alternator weight, Virg

KR> Flaps versus belly board versus spoilers

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 DUMBO had spoilers and a GAW (?)  airfoil. Check the Newsletters.
 I got into a WHOLE lot of trouble mentioning DUMBO before. It
 was built in Marietta (?) Georga, Virg


 On 1/13/2015 4:35 PM, chrisprata via KRnet wrote:
> Have spoilers been installed and used on a KR1?
>
> Where? Outer or inner wing? Do spoilers blanket ailerons with turbulent air?
>
> On apch, I wonder if you'd pull the nose up when spoilers deployed to create 
> a 'dirty' configuration?
>
> Anyone here running spoilers and or belly brake? Pics?
>
> Thx
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>  Original message From: bjoenunley via KRnet 
>  Date:01/13/2015  4:27 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Ronald Wright via KRnet  
> Subject: Re: KR> Flaps versus belly board versus spoilers 
> 
> 
> I like the spoiler concept. Easy to install. Between a belly board and 
> spoilers we should stop in a hurry.
>
> My question is; do we put holes in the spoilers to make them more efficient 
> or not?
>
> Just kidding about the holes,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>  Original message From: Ronald Wright via 
> KRnet  Date:01/13/2015  3:10 PM  
> (GMT-06:00) To: Chris Prata ,KRnet  at list.krnet.org> Subject: KR> Flaps versus belly board versus 
> spoilers 
> The KRs really need SPOILERS..  They are much better than flaps and a 
> lot easier to build/install.  Close a spoiler and you are instantly flying 
> again.  Dump a flap and you sink first and then get to climb again.  
> Personally, I love spoilers!
>
> Ron
>
>
>

KR> NVAreo

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 A little patience will go a long way. People have a life to live.
 Virg


 On 1/11/2015 7:39 PM, James Cook via KRnet wrote:
> Earl,
>
> I have sent in an email shortly after New Year and got an answer, but since
> than I have sent in two more and have not gotten answers. There are some
> issues there but I have no idea if it takes days, weeks or months to
> resolve them. I also don't have the foggiest idea of ready-made-p

> availability, and that also not too helpful. Would be nice to know NVAero
> plans for sure for future planning purposes.
>
> I am also looking for a KR-2S plan.
>
> James
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Earl Klinker via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Is NVAreo still in business?  I sent a mail requesting info about plans
>> for KR2S but have gotten no response.
>>
>> Regards
>> Earl
>>
>>

KR> Kr Plans

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 No, an already built single place, Virg


 On 1/6/2015 6:25 AM, Herbert F?rle via KRnet wrote:
> ..Randy Moore  offers his Kr Plans for 3000.00? Is it possible that the 
> decimal dot is on the wrong   place ? I think one left is ok.
> Herbert
> German Kr
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
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KR> Newbie question - KR-1 or single seat KR-2S

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 It has been done. Check w/ Steve Bennett, I think he built a
 a KR 1 &1/2 from KR 2 plans.You will have a nice wide comfortable
 cockpit w/ armrests and all. Prefab parts may not fit, be careful, Virg




 On 1/6/2015 12:51 AM, James Cook via KRnet wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A new member question here.
>
> My primary interest is a single seater, but it seems to me that most of the
> builders building 2 seaters. Since I am a first time builder, I have to
> rely more on others advice than more experienced builders, but if there are
> not too many single seater builders, it would be an uphill battle.
>
> The other fact is that the KR-2S have all the latest and greatest
> improvements in it, so I am thinking to get a KR-2S and narrow down the
> fuselage to 1 person, build it light with a 60hp or so VW engine. That way
> I can use the advice of the majority of the builders, I can use prefab
> parts as available and I can build a LIGHT single seater plane with 400+
> lbs empty weight, 800 lbs gross weight as it was designed originally.
>
> Is there a downside of my plan?
>
> Is there anyone else building along this plan?
>
> Thanks, James
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KR> KR Plans

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I will try and contact Jeannette Tomorrow and see what is up, Virg


 On 1/5/2015 7:34 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet wrote:
> I saw an address for Jeannette Rand in the archives. I believe it was in the 
> more recent set. When I get some time I can go back and look.
>
> Joe
>
> All plans from my understanding still are obtained through Jeannette Rand.
>
>

KR> Differential aileron control

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The downward aileron deflection of the upward going wing will stall 
first.
 You change the camber of the wing and increase the angle of attack, 
Virg


 On 12/13/2014 8:51 AM, Tinyauto--- via KRnet wrote:
>   
> The idea of differential control having a side advantage of reducing the
> chance of stall is nonsense to me.  Lets say we are flying along checking
> out something on the ground and are in a moderately steep bank of maybe 30  de
> grees and allow the airplane to get somewhat slow.  It would seem  if the
> pilot would slam in full deflection that the differential would  actually
> cause a stall of the already slower traveling wing on the inside  of the turn.
>   
> Now I realize if the airplane didn't have differential control and the turn
>   didn't stay coordinated that the nose of the airplane would blank out part
> of  the wing and possibly causing a stall.  Differential aileron helps an
> airplane fly easier (less pilot attention) due to not having to use  two
> separate controls to keep flying coordinated.  However I am  just not grasping
> the idea of it "reducing the tendency for the wing to stall"  part.  Am I
> wrong?
>   
> Kevin Golden
> Harrisonville, MO
>   
>
>
>
>
>
> Differential aileron  deflection
>
>
> 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/DifferentialAileron.svg/
> 450px-DifferentialAileron.svg.png
>
> Illustration  of a Differential aileron
>
> The geometry of most aileron linkages can be  configured so as to bias the
> travel further upward than downward. By  excessively deflecting the upward
> aileron, profile drag is increased rather  than reduced and separation  drag
>   further  aids in producing
> drag on the inside wing, producing a yaw force in the  direction of the
> turn.
> Though not as efficient as rudder mixing, aileron  differential is very easy
> to implement on almost any airplane and offers the  significant advantage of
> reducing the tendency for the wing to  stall
>   at the tip  first by
> limiting the downward aileron deflection and its associated  effective
> increase in angle of attack.
>
> Most airplanes use this method  of adverse yaw mitigation due to the simple
> implementation and safety  benefits.
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KR> First time KR2 owner..

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Great Planes,. Virg

 On 12/12/2014 10:49 AM, Bill Wood via KRnet wrote:
> I have been on here watching all that is going on and I am quite impressed.. 
> I am a low time pilot and new to the KR scene.  Just bought my first KR2, 
> most of it in a box.. The aircraft was built and flown a few years ago. It 
> has about 350 hours on the airframe. The engine is currently out and on my 
> bench in pieces.
>
> I am quite proficient in all areas of building and repair and so on..
>
> My first challenge so far (there is going to be more) and I am sure someone 
> out there will be able to point me in the right direction..
>
> I am looking for a parts break down for a VW 1835.
>
> Where is the best place to get parts for this engine. IE gasket kit, rings, 
> bearings.
>
> Thanks
>
> BillW at guspro.com
>
> Bill Wood
> Technical Consultant/R&D
> Guspro (Ice King)
> 519-352-4550 x262
>
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KR> build it light

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 And step yourself on the scale as well, Virg


 On 12/9/2014 12:06 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet wrote:
> Hello Guys land Dolls, As some of you already know I took over a project 
> from Eric Pitts over the summer. I think that I might be the fifth owner of 
> this project and there have been many changes from owner to owner. This is a 
> unique project that was started by Dr. Dean about 16 years ago now. So there 
> is no blame to be found here just observations on how a plane can weigh a ton 
> ( not really an exaggeration). When I got it home I took every assembly and 
> cataloged and weighed them. I then started to evaluate how I wanted this 
> plane to turn out and then evaluated what  weight reductions could be done. 
> To be very fair there are many very well built assemblies that I well use 
> pretty much as is.   The first and largest was the fuselage on gear. (too 
> many little items included or not included for anyone to make a comparison) 
> This weighed in at 150#. I have removed a lot of epoxy runs and spills. The 
> use of flox while in the right places was 2 to 3 times what was needed for 
> fillets and edge of foam filling. Wood blocking from different configurations 
> of systems was all still in place, even though not used anymore. The result 
> so far is a reduction of nearly 10# from just this assembly. I still see 
> another 3# in lightening holes and a couple more things to remove. (Like tail 
> wheel support) The seat had a much smaller yield but still gains to be had. 
> It started at 8.5# and with just sanding  extra flox out came down to 8# 
> even.There are a couple things that I am trying to share here in 
> thinking about where you might be able to build a part a bit lighter. One 
> item is in blocking. If you are trying to use a block of wood for a gusset or 
> support and is is being used or glued on two sides consider it being a 
> triangular piece instead of a square piece. Half the weight for free. In most 
> cases just epoxy is enough on the surfaces that is in contact. Flox fillets 
> are likely over kill and just more weight. (Yes, ounces add up to pounds) 
> Also if it is a long blocking situation think if it is needed full length or 
> if one or several short pieces would do the same job.Clean up extra 
> epoxy runs and spill overs. Use peel ply as much as you can. Again it does 
> make a difference on ever part. Be careful of the edge depth that is filled 
> with flox on every part. I think the rule of thumb is a 1/4" and it could be 
> a triangular 1/4" if the edge is over 1/2" wide. If the edge is that wide or 
> more I might suggest that the flox edge still only be the 1/4" triangular 
> edge and and a layer of glass to cover the surface with peel ply to take out 
> the excess epoxy. Lightening holes are  another very efficient way to 
> to save weight. I made two new mounting brackets for control stick assembly 
> out of aluminum angle. I was able to reduce the weight of each bracket by 
> exactly half with lightening holes with no loss of structural integrity. The 
> brackets weighed about 3 ounces each so basically I got 2 for one weight 
> wise. Not a lot but again ounces make pounds and I will not have another 700 
> plus pound KR.Give your bird a free Christmas present by saving 
> weight. Remember you save fuel forever for every ounce that you don't need to 
> drag into the air. Think before you beef up a part that has served as is for 
> 40 years of KR's. Think if it really does need to be thicker. Think if it 
> needs to be steel instead of aluminum. Think if it really needs another layer 
> of glass. Think if you really need heavy electric motors instead of light 
> flap or trim hand operated. Look at every part you make and wonder if it is 
> the lightest way that it can be completed.All my best,Joe Horton
> 
> Apple's Crazy New Gizmo
> Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture)
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KR> Newsletters

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 read all that I had then started looking at Larry's CD.
 OMG, what a resource, Virg

KR> Newsletters

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

I thought that I had ALL of the KR Newsletters,but
I only have up to #90. Were there more after that ? Virg

KR> update on my project

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Are not attachments good enough. What is this SIGN IN YAHOO I D 
STUFF, Virg


 On 11/9/2014 2:49 PM, Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet wrote:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/krIIairpane/photos/albums/769411823
>   
> I have added a new album to this group I put on yahoo
>
>
> Randy Moore
> Newbern Tn
> avid mark IV
> Challenger II
> KR II converting to single seat
> crashed Tbird I
> no1son38 at aol.com
> 731 589 1330
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KR> KR Newsletter download problem

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Why not  just get the 1975/2002 CD from Larry ? Virg


 On 10/15/2014 9:48 AM, Michael Lineback via KRnet wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> Wanted to fire off a short email on this.I just downloaded all 4 files
> and they seem to be fine.They are between 33 and 42 Meg each and on a
> quick cursory inspection seem to be complete. I do have a fast Internet
> connection at home 16Gig download average.
>
> HTH,
>
> Michael
>

KR> Annivery Flight

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Keep em (on) Flying, Virg


 On 9/28/2014 6:09 PM, dfeiger via KRnet wrote:
> September 28, 1984 to September 28; 2014, thirty years of flying my KR2 
> N39426.
>
> Seems like just yesterday, with 5.9 hours logged as a ?private pilot?, I was 
> a mite nervous as I took her off for her maiden flight.  A lot of water has 
> spilled over the dam so to speak since that day, 1491.2 hours logged in fact. 
>  (First flight described in KR Issue 121. September 1985)  At 77 years young 
> I  expect that the day will come when I can no longer enjoy flying my little 
> beast; interesting to note the the annual KR get to gather will be held in 
> McMinnville, Oregon next summer.  might be time to let her go then???.  Still 
> have lots of 2nd Saturday breakfasts at the EAA Chapter #617 hanger in 
> Prineville, Oregon to attend.
>
> David Feiger
> PO Box 581
> John Day, OR 97845
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KR> KR-2 in "Aftermath"

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The design of the KR was based on the Taylor Titch. A well respected
 plans seller for years. RR could have accepted that the design 
criteria
 was adequate and acceptable for the changes for the KR, Virg


 On 9/26/2014 2:41 AM, Mike T via KRnet wrote:
> I agree with DJ, and I think other kitplane makers do too.  Recently the
> designer of the CX4 (an aluminum single-seat design about 10 years old),
> discovered the cable attachment method on the rudder was causing fatigue
> cracks in the rudder cables of his prototype.  So he redesigned the part
> and emailed it as a "MANDATORY DESIGN CHANGE" in big letters to all
> registered builders.  Larger kitplane makers like RV make similar
> improvements in their plans all the time.
>
> According to some KR-Net posts, Neil Bingham's design review talking about
> the unsafe aft CG limit appeared in Sport Aviation in 1986 and also in the
> KR Newsletter.  Even if Rand-Robinson claimed they never heard of Sport
> Aviation, they can hardly claim they didn't know about the Newsletter
> because they occasionally made contributions to it.
>

KR> Mailings

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 7/16/2014 3:42 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> Ken Henderson wrote:
>
>> Lately my receiving of KRNet has been very spotty. I get every other 
>> one then it will skip 10 issues or so and start again. Anybody else 
>> having these problems?
>> Also, last issue of Corvaircraft was received on 4/5/2013, Vol. 342 
>> Issue 71. Attempts to contact Corvaircraft site only gets me ?Mail 
>> Delivery Failure? notices. Does anyone have any info about this?
>
> I've never heard of anybody missing so many issues of the digest, 
> especially not on this incarnation of the list.  I will ask the folks 
> that run the email server if they have visibility into that.I'm 
> not sure if the numbering of the digests would have gone 
> non-sequential like that though. I'm posting this to the whole list to 
> see if anybody else on the digest has insight into this, or has a 
> similar problem, but if so, please send directly to me rather than the 
> whole list.
>
 Mark, I have had no trouble receiving anything from the KR 
List, ever.
 Thank you for you efforts to keep it going, Virg

KR> "Engine-driven alternator?"

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Tony B says that a fully charged battery is good for 17 starts for 
Young
 Eagles rides. Recharge at night for the next day, Virg


 On 7/15/2014 4:55 AM, Dan Heath via KRnet wrote:
> May I suggest a back up battery system.  Larry F. and Mark L. and probably
> many others have done this.  A battery in good condition will last longer
> than you will need to get out of airspace, should you have an electrical
> problem.  I never did it, but will definitely build it in to my next
> aircraft.
>
>   
>
>

KR> Transponder Antenna

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 some diagonals missing ? Virg


 On 6/26/2014 12:28 AM, Phillip Matheson via KRnet wrote:
> Mark.
>
> I do not have the KR Plan in front of me, but the photo you added 
> seems to not have the normal bracing in the boat tail section.
> I could be wrong??
>
> Phil Matheson
>
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KR> Change

[Virgil N.Salisbury via KRnet]

How do I change from Facilitator1 at bellsouth.net
 to virgnvs at bellsouth.net ? Virg

KR> the answer is

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

>
> 4 shrubs, one tree, and multiple flowers.  There are times you work 
> past the pain and do your best to remain invisible. :-)  In spite of 
> it all, my intercom is working!!
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> on Top

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 THX for the Pics. Appreciate them, Virg


 On 4/12/2014 10:36 PM, Mark Langford wrote:
> Virg wrote:
>
>> Interested in the ON TOP info. Pics, etc, Virg
>
> Here's how John Shaffer did it...see 
> http://www.krnet.org/redoak2003/030913188.jpg .  Ken's method has the 
> Ellison facing rearward through the baffling.  I have a picture 
> somewhere (and Mike could get one), which I'll post next time I run 
> across it...
>
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> 

KR> on Top

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Interested in the ON TOP info. Pics, etc, Virg


 On 4/12/2014 8:38 PM, Mark Langford wrote:
> Mike Stirewalt wrote:
>
>>> As you mention on the Red Oak page linked above, my KR-1? (formerly 
>>> owned
> by Steve Bennett) was built by Ken Cottle of Columbia, MO.
>
> I couldn't think of the name, and eventually decided it was Max (so 
> close!), probably due to reading old Newsletters.  I did meet Ken at 
> the Gathering, and am still considering mimicking his "Ellison on top 
> of the engine" setup.
>

KR> Two up?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I have heard that 300/350 # in the cockpit is max weight, Virg


 On 4/10/2014 12:48 AM, Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've asked all South African KR2 owners if anyone flies his KR2 regularly 
> with two up and the short answer I received was NO! I find this hard to 
> believe and would like the opinion of other KR2 flyers all over the world on 
> this so that I can share with those in South Africa.
>
> Please be so kind as to give me your thoughts and feedback on this - Is the 
> KR2 a two place machine? If not and you were to build one again with this in 
> mind, what would you change to make it so.
>
> Tx for any feedback,
>
> Henni,
> South Africa
>
>

KR> Sun-N-Fun

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I have been wondering that for years, Virg


 On 3/29/2014 5:17 PM, smwood wrote:
> I'll be at Sun-N-Fun from Tues afternoon till Friday evening.  My cell 
> is 240-538-8465.  Lets get together and wonder why more KR folks are 
> not here enjoying the show.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>
>>
>> John
>> I'll be at Sun-n-Fun from Tues @noon till Thursday evening. Call my 
>> cell 330-388-2074 and I'll take a look at it. I'm building a wider, 
>> longer version of a KR-2S, about 80% done.
>> Are there any others KR Netters headed to S-n-F this year? Call and 
>> we can get together for a beer or dinner.Pete Klapp, Canton, OH
>>
>
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KR> Manual or Plans

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Call Steve @ Navaero, Virg


 On 3/18/2014 1:25 PM, Tulsa Turbine wrote:
> Just picked up our KR2 project in Springfield, MO.
> Fuselage, landing gear.
> Now I need a manual or plans.
>
> Also, in general, what is the next step?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
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KR> Firewall material

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Fibnrefrax is the heat shield, not the stainless, Virg


On 3/15/2014 8:52 AM, Kenneth B. Jones wrot
>> .015 in Stainless seem to be the only option...
> Thanks for digging up the reference Ken! I'll see what I ca



>> n do.
>>
>> Right off the bat, the existing plans method for constructing our aircraft
>> with .005 stainless doesn't meet Part 23 requirements in any regard...
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
>
> John/Rogelio,
>
> IF certifying under FAR 23, and using other than the listed materials, then 
> the fire test is required. Who knows?  Perhaps .005" stainless over Fiberfrax 
> is better than .015 stainless.
>
> Ken
>
>> ?23.1191
>> (h) THE FOLLOWING MATERIALS MAY BE USED in firewalls or shrouds "WITHOUT 
>> BEING TESTED" as required by this section:
>   
>  -
>> (1) Stainless steel sheet, 0.015 inch thick.
>> (2) Mild steel sheet (coated with aluminum or otherwise protected against
>> corrosion) 0.018 inch thick.
>> (3) Terne plate, 0.018 inch thick.
>> (4) Monel metal, 0.018 inch thick.
>> (5) Steel or copper base alloy firewall fittings.
>> (6) Titanium sheet, 0.016 inch thick.
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KR> Firewall material

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 How much is the Stainless and Fibrefrax firewall kit ? Virg


 On 3/13/2014 6:59 PM, Dan Prichard wrote:
> FYI. Neither wicks or aircraft spruce carry .005 stainless sheet or any other 
> size below .015. I found a specialty supplier in Ashland Oregon and they want 
> $63 per sqft. A touch spendy for me. Fortunately I have a piece coming from a 
> generous KR builder. So for the other new builders out there, good luck and 
> share with the group where you find it.
>
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KR> Firewall material?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, Virg


 On 3/10/2014 8:11 PM, Dan Prichard wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can order .005" stainless steel for the firewall?
>
> Dan Prichard
> Portland, OR
>
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KR> WING SKIN

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 3/4/2014 8:19 PM, Mark Langford wrote:
> Tony King wrote:
>
>>>
>
> I think a lot of the fear and loathing of fiberglass construction 
> arises from people's experience with polyester resin from the auto 
> parts or department store.  That stuff stinks, has a very short time 
> to cure, and is very sensitive to warm temperatures, such as your 
> hands.  If you mix up any usable quantity, it starts setting before 
> you even get it squeegeed into the fabric, and then you've got a 
> sticky smelly mess on your hands.  You can't even let go of it because 
> it's stuck to your hands and is unmanageable.  I suspect we all 
> learned about "fiberglass layups" like this, but today's aero-type 
> epoxies have working times like 30 minutes, and even then, you have 
> plenty of warning that you need to be finishing up or moving further 
> on.  After a while you learn that for big stuff like wings, you need 
> to do it in the cool of the day to give yourself plenty of working 
> time.  No biggie.
>
>
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> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
> Aircraft Spruce and Wicks sold a practice Fibreglass try out kit. 
> Cheep enough to have a go at it.
 Check with them and go for it, Virg
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KR> Angle of attack

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The three point picture you see sitting on the ground. Watch your
 speed or you will float down the runway, Virg


 On 2/20/2014 3:44 AM, Doran Jaffas wrote:
>   in the three point Landing configuration is anyone have any knowledge
> of the optimum angle of attack for the KR two standard?
>Doran
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KR> The KR2 or Sonerai 2 is a funeral waiting to happen

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Steve, Great Planes has experience with both, Virg


 On 2/13/2014 9:47 AM, Jeff Lange wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I am not one to pick a fight on the internet, but we had a guy join 
> sonerai.net that was apprehensive about the design based on this comment: 
> "The KR2 or Sonerai 2 is a funeral waiting to happen"
>
>

KR> stalls

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Reread Stick and Rudder. You are setting up a DANGEROUS SITUATION, Virg


 On 1/26/2014 10:28 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>   I can fly through a stall with my feet on the floor, using only 
> aileron to keep wings level.  I like that.
> Larry Flesner
>> ++
>
>>  PLEASE, DO NOT DO THAT ! KEEP THE WINGS LEVEL WITH
>> THE RUDDER! You increase the Angle of attack with the down 
>> aileron and set
>> yourself up for a SPIN, Virg
>> +
>Not in my KR.  If I try to use rudder to pick up a wing it causes 
> the nose to pitch down and it won't lift a wing.  With a 3 degree wash 
> out the ailerons are still flying.I can slow fly a C150 all day 
> with the stall horn buzzing and maintain wings level with rudder 
> only.  This ain't no Cessna or Piper we're flying here.   My KR does 
> power off stalls very gently and straight ahead, without rudder.
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Diehl Wing Skins & CG

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 PLEASE, DO NOT DO THAT ! KEEP THE WINGS LEVEL WITH
 THE RUDDER! You increase the Angle of attack with the down 
aileron and set
 yourself up for a SPIN, Virg



>   I can fly through a stall with my feet on the floor, using only 
> aileron to keep wings level.  I like that.
>
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> FAR Prop clearance

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I  new that the facts would show up, Virg


 On 1/5/2014 5:32 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_guidance_library/rgfar.nsf/bf94f3f079de2117852566c70067018c/a17c099806a3e38f85256687006f1418!OpenDocument
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 5 Jan 2014, at 12:04 am, Gerald Jones  wrote:
>>
>> I recognize that the passage you cite is form 14 CFR part 1 section ? 23.925 
>> Propeller clearance.  I don't have this part of the CFRs in my FAR/AIM.  Can 
>> you tell me where you found it online?  Does this apply just to LSAs or all 
>> aircraft?  I would have never guessed that there was a reg for prop
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KR> Prop clearance

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 More is better! I will bet that someone will come up with facts rather
 than our supposition, Virg
 Ain't this a great forum ?


 On 1/3/2014 9:37 AM, Pat and Robin Russo wrote:
> I was under the impression that nine inches was recommended/required 
> clearance.
>
> -Original Message----- From: Virgil N.Salisbury
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:19 AM
>
>
>
>
> Also I have heard that you need 4" prop clearance in a level
> position. Put
> your engine up high enough to get that figure, Virg
>
>
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KR> I joined my local EAA chapter

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 It was reported on this forum in the past " let the RVers know that 
you can do
 fiberglass work ",They will love you for that.
 Also I have heard that you need 4" prop clearance in a level 
position. Put
 your engine up high enough to get that figure, Virg


 On 1/3/2014 8:29 AM, Chris Kinnaman wrote:
> This is why I suggested checking around if there are more chapters 
> within a reasonable distance. When I moved to New Mexico, my boss told 
> me he was in two chapters and described one as "where the builders 
> are" and said more or less that the members of the other one had 
> finished building. I joined both. I saw that the one that was more of 
> a social club/gathering for Young Eagles rallies, pancake breakfasts 
> etc. gradually changed as new members came in, bringing their projects 
> with them. The chapter with the builders is now the chapter where the 
> building is in large part finished. The focus of a chapter is cyclical 
> and sometimes all it takes is a little nudge to change direction.
>
> Chris
>
> On 1/3/2014 5:23 AM, Robert Boyd wrote:
>> I thought I'd chime in on this one. I also am a past president of an EAA
>> chapter here in Ohio and found that it is true, you get out of it 
>> what you
>> put into it. However, I also have come to an opinion that EAA, or at 
>> least
>> a lot of its chapters, have become more AOPA. There is very little E in
>> most EAA chapters these days. At least that is what I have been 
>> finding and
>> is only my opinion. When trying to put some "E"-experimental, back into
>> our meetings it appeared that the majority of the members were not
>> interested and couldn't wait to get back on the subject of Young Eagles,
>> the next Pancake Breakfast or who is going to bring the buns to the next
>> meeting for the burgers. I know for fact there are several builders 
>> in my
>> chapter who never attend meetings for exactly that reason, there is 
>> no more
>> (E)experimental in the meetings.
>> OK enough of that, now does anyone have a tail wheel assembly for sale
>> cheap!!!
>> Bob
>> Frazeysburg Ohio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:12 PM, ppaulvsk at aol.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there's any KR experts in my chapter. But there's a 
>>> lot  of
>>> RVer. People can be so lost and confused and not know what there 
>>> missing. :
>>> )
>>>

KR> New Cowl- Props

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Ken had one and it did not work out. He had it mounted
 as a Plaque and gave it away as a Prize, Virg
 ( See pic sent to Larry )


 On 11/13/2013 2:57 AM, John Martindale wrote:
> Are you sure about that?  Three blade wooden props are a very rare item.
>
> John Martindale
> 29 Jane Circuit
> Toormina NSW 2452
> Australia
>   
> ph:61 2 6658 4767
> m:0403 432179
> email:john_martindale at bigpond.com
> web site: http://john-martindale-kr2.zxq.net
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
> Witmer
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 3:02 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> New Cowl- Props
>
> Props ???   I Have all the early first flight magazine acticles on KR-1  &
> 2  and they were useing 3 bladed props on VW eng.   Seemed like great take
> off ( short ) & great top speed so why change  Jus wondering ???
>
> ...snip
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KR> wrap up

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Thank you, Larry, Virg


 On 11/3/2013 9:19 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
>
> O.K. , it's November already and I need to wrap up the Gathering. 
> Extended house guest are gone, I'm nearly over my 4 week bout with 
> head and chest cold, and an awesome fun flight in the KR today has 
> nearly eliminated my Gathering host burnout.  The flight was fun, even 
> with plugged up ears.
>
> Anyway, I've acquired boxes for shipping and getting a mailing list 
> together for those that have ordered hats and shirts.  I apologize for 
> the delay but with everything happening it was easier to ignore it 
> than to buckle down and wrap things up.  When I get these orders 
> shipped, hopefully this week, I'll advise as to the number of shirts 
> and hats left, sizes, etc.
>
> As Larry the Cable Guy says, "Get-ter done". :-)
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Epoxy

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Try a dark colored van in the sunshine, Virg


 On 10/31/2013 12:58 PM, brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com wrote:
> I would like to hear what you think of the EZ after you give it a try.
>
> I don't really put mine outside to post cure, I do it just to speed up
> the initial cure a bit.  Not sure that it would get hot enough in the
> sun for a real post cure.  My point was that the strength of the EZ
> without a post cure is better than the West and you could get an
> additional 20% strength if you did post cure.  If I was doing a set of
> wings I might consider building a box from Home Depot insulating foam
> sheets and making a post cure oven, but it really is not necessary.
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KR> .KR BAD REP?

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

Go for it, Virg


On 10/30/2013 5:59 AM, Doran Jaffas wrote:
> If this aircraft has such a bad rep as the previous mentioned then why have
> so many been built and as a new owner should I be a bit concerned? I have
> previously owned and did the testing on a Sonerai 2 . The .KR 2 seems like
> a good step from there.
>Doran
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KR> KR project for sale

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 This was  the second plane that Jim Owen built, Virg


 On 10/29/2013 1:07 PM, Mark Langford wrote:
> Gary Sherrill wrote:
>
>> I'll take it! Unless you're in China or somewhere!!
> Not to be a doomsayer, but I've seen KR projects that included gear that
> weren't worth the gas to drive to the next county to pick them up!  I'd say
> there's a good chance you'll get lucky though...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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KR> KR project for sale

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The gentleman is Tom Hall in Springfield Mo. I just got a call from 
him.
 It is a KR-2 started by Jim Owen. Grove gear w/wheels and tires, 
Tinted
 canopy, Instrument panel and other things as previously mentioned. An
 easy more than a $2,000.00 value. He wants to concrete his hangar floor
 this winter and has to get rid of the project. Call and offer him a 
fair price
 and pick it up quickly, Virg He is at 417-353-8903


 On 10/29/2013 12:36 PM, I Fly KR's wrote:
> Sorry. Phone is (417)353-8903
>
>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:26, I Fly KR's  wrote:
>>
>> This gentleman has a KR project for sale he inherited from his dad's estate. 
>> Apparently fuselage and tail are complete with landing gear. That's all I 
>> know. He mentioned somewhere in the neighborhood of $400.
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KR> Spot welding aluminum tank

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Beech Musketeer tanks were sealed with Scotchweld.
 I do not think that it was as messy as Pro-Seal, Virg


 On 10/27/2013 8:20 PM, Craig Williams wrote:
> So I'm sitting around dreaming of flying my plane someday and contemplating 
> my stub wing tanks.  The outer wing tanks are welded aluminum and that was 
> fine but a bit pricey.  My mains are .032 aluminum sheet and I got to 
> thinking how hard it was going to be to weld such thin sheet.  Poking around 
> the internet I found that in fact you can spot weld thin aluminum sheet (see 
> video) and as luck would have it I have a new 220V spot welder sitting on the 
> shelf.  My plan is to use this technique to spot weld my tanks together and 
> seal the seams with Pro-Seal.  Anyone heard of spot welding fuel tanks or 
> aircraft skins?
>
>
> http://youtu.be/gcgC3V3mkcw
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
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KR> Hinge points

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Scarfing the longerons will be difficult, Virg


 On 10/20/2013 12:31 PM, Pat and Robin Russo wrote:
> 1- On my AT6 project I am about to fill in all of the hinge points with bits 
> of foam and glass. Not very exciting so am looking for suggestions or 
> alternative methods. And on another project;
> 2-I have an older KR boat abandoned by another builder and have decided to 
> cut it behind the seat and move/extend the  fuselage rearwards by 24?. Has 
> anyone out there tried this? I am loathe to start anew because the boat has 
> all the controls and landing gear done. It really appears to be a 
> mechanically simple task though tedious and exacting. Comments welcome!
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KR> video Bob !!

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Some one wanted a copy also, so I put in a BLANK tape  for them to 
copy on, Virg


 On 10/10/2013 11:56 PM, Miles Humphrey wrote:
> To anyone who might be interested, I have a 1997 KR gathering Perry 
> Oklahoma Video that I won at a drawing at the banquet a long time ago 
> that is offered to anyone who might want it or have a use for it.  
> Miles Humphrey 319-346-1591 email mnk at q.com or on this net.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
> 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> video Bob !!
>
>
>>
>>
>>> All of the Videos came from BOB, Virg
>>> +
>>> My videos started in 1996 at Pine Bluff.  (Video Bob )
>>
>> +
>>
>> Any idea who took the 1991 and 1992 video?
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
>>
>>
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KR> video Bob !!

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 All of the Videos came from BOB, Virg


 On 10/9/2013 5:48 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
>
> Netters,
>
> I got a great e-mail from Bob Vermeulen saying he is still around and 
> working as well as his assistant Terry.  I will include his e-mail 
> below.  Bob still has many of the Gathering videos available on his 
> web site  www.kr2videos.com  .  They are a must see for all the new 
> comers to the KR experience.  Maybe Bob would make a package deal for 
> everyone trying to catch up on the KR history (hint).  With respect 
> for all of Bob's and Terry's efforts in bringing us video of past 
> Gatherings I will not make available any duplicates of his tapes.  In 
> addition, I will forward to him the older videos.  If he wishes he can 
> make them available also by adding to his inventory.  I don't know who 
> sold the older videos but the info may be available on the tapes.  I 
> couldn't get my home equipment to work so I have no idea of the 
> quality or who produced them.
>
> Question to Bob:  Are all the older VHS tapes available in DVD format?
>
> I would encourage everyone to visit his web page and see what is 
> available.  Mark, could you add his web page to a prominent place the 
> KRNet site?
>
> Larry Flesner
> +++
>  
>
>
> Hi Larry,  Congrats on another successful Gathering.  I saw your post  
> inquiring as to whether I was still on the net.  Yes, I am.   I still 
> get the digest each day and always enjoy seeing who's doing what and 
> what the latest news is.  Terry, my camera assistant and I were having 
> coffee a week ago and were talking about the good times we had at past 
> Gatherings.  We would have loved to have made it to this years event.  
> Terry is a video producer and editor for a large cancer research 
> institute here in Grand Rapids, so he's a very busy person.  I of 
> course still don't see very well so it's very difficult to travel.  I 
> still get to Nashville a couple of times a year to do some recording, 
> but I need an assistant to help me get around and make sure I get to 
> where I need to go.  My eyesight is better than a couple of years ago, 
> but I still can't drive.  I see Virgil sent some of the old videos to 
> you and I'm assuming your wondering if you can get permission to copy 
> them.  If that's what you're wanting, the answer is yes.  My videos 
> started in 1996 at Pine Bluff.  Sounds like he had some older videos 
> also.  I still have a website, www.kr2videos.com   where I sell 
> videos, but I haven't sold any for quite awhile.  So, If somebody 
> would want to duplicate my old videos or turn them into DVDs, I would 
> have no problem.  As you may recall, last year I sent you the last of 
> my inventory to be used as door prizes or banquet giveaways.  I always 
> thought the videos were great motivation for the builders.  The KR 
> guys are great folks and I am pleased to help any and all in any way I 
> can.
>
> I always appreciate all you've done over the years,
>
> Bob Vermeulen
> aka Video Bob
>
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KR> Home Again

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 I have heard good reports about GOLD beads, Virg


 On 10/9/2013 8:01 PM, John Bryhan wrote:
>Glad you're home, sorry about the dumb generator.  Brushes would've fixed 
> huh?
> How're you doing?  Stupid congress... Director says we can use vacation if we 
> got it on
> the books...I was planning vacation anyway - so good news... I was thinking 
> if furloughed
> I wouldn't be allowed to use it.  Going back to Jamaica for a week!
>On the downside, I just got diagnosed with prostate cancer... what a drag. 
>  Researching
> my treatment options...surgery or chemo seems to be it...then what kind? 
> Pelette? Ion?
> Total removal or cryo?
> I need to talk to oncologist and then the radiologists.
>
> John from iPad
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KR> Gathering over site

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 BOB made the videos, Virg


 On 10/7/2013 5:35 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
>
> I must confess, I made an over site at the Gathering.  Virgil 
> Salisbury mailed a package to Chris several months before the 
> Gathering with instructions not to open.
>
> A day or two before the Gathering I received an e-mail from Virgil 
> with the following instructions:  "Open the mail after the Dinner, 
> Virg".  Virgil never wastes more than a word or two in his e-mails.  
> It didn't dawn on me that what Virgil was trying to say was "use the 
> package as a door prize".  I set the package with all my other 
> Gathering stuff and then forgot to do anything with it until packing 
> up to go home.
>
> I opened the package and found several VHS tapes of past Gatherings, 
> all the way back to Rough River.  So, now what to do with them.  I 
> tried to check them out on my VCR for quality and I'm not pressing the 
> right buttons or something.  I have no idea of who did the taping or 
> sold the videos.
>
> Is there anyone that would like to take on the task of converting the 
> VHS to DVD and making them available at cost.  I can't imagine they 
> are still available for sale anywhere so if someone made them 
> available at cost the original seller would not object.  Just a guess 
> on my part.  If the original maker of the videos is on the net, please 
> advise.
>
> Anyway,  that's the deal.  Sorry Virgil.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> spar extensions on KR2s wings

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Wing skins, Virg


 On 10/7/2013 4:51 PM, cruzj12 at frontiernet.net wrote:
> Has everyone building the 2s wings built the 12"extensions to plans or is 
> there another method to get  equal or better results? Thanks,...
>   Joe Cruz
>  Spencer,NY
> KR2S
> N6102L
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KR> Gathering

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Who opened the package at the dinner
 ? Virg

KR> Gathering info

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Open the mail after the Dinner, Virg


 On 10/2/2013 9:27 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
>
> REMINDER -  Get you Wick's orders in today or tomorrow for delivery to 
> Mt.Vernon.
>
> Tomorrow (Thursday) 8:00am will be the last time I check e-mail before 
> the Gathering.  I'll be off line for the entire Gathering.
>
> If you need to contact me after tomorrow morning, call me on my cell:  
> 618 201 5958  (write it down somewhere)
>
> Wishing a safe trip for all travelers.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> Mild Stone + building update

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 9/30/2013 12:04 AM, Phillip Matheson wrote:
> How did you fill the staple marks, Virg
> --
> Hi Virg
> That was easy.
>
> I just mixed up west system and micro balloons as I would for any 
> filler on the glass section and used a old credit card and worked my 
> way around and filled them all.
>
> I hit a few stops with a orbital sand and the filler was SOOO easy to 
> sand.. I will cover the ply with deck cloth and epoxy, the same as my 
> KR2.
>
> Need a low stool with caster wheels and slid around the fuselage.
>
> Phil
>
 Thanks a bunch, Virg
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KR> Mild Stone + building update

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 9/29/2013 9:31 PM, Phillip Matheson wrote:
> I attended the Australian AusFly weekend a week or so ago and my KR2 
> clocked over it's 500 hours mark on arrival at the fly in.
>
> I now have 507 hours on the clock.
> The VW type 4 belt drive 100hp is running the best for some time. I 
> was always concerned with the twin 150 CD carbs operation as it had an 
> unusual sound and ( hard to explain) roughness at FULL throttle. I 
> purchased TWO new old stock Carbs from the UK EBay over hauled them, 
> and found that the original carbs had two different metering needles 
> in them. One exhaust was always darker in colour than the other. I 
> got  a new needle from the UK the same number as the grey running 
> exhaust, the engine is now,so far is great.
>
> Building up date
>
> KR2SS.
>
> The 0200 in stripped down, I have all the parts with new pistons and 
> gudgeon pins fitted, it has been balanced, and will need assembly 
> soon. Still thinking about professional assembled Certified  engine or 
> just do it all my self cost ( $6000 labour to certify  or even $4000 
> as assembled Experiment engine by a professional) need the to make an 
> engine mount and cowl.
>
> I made new wing templates and set the fuse up level. got out the old 
> laser and set the rear spar in position and glues it into place.
>
> I have filled the marks in the fuse ply from all the staples and dints 
> removing the staples, I will have to invert the fuse soon to seal the 
> ply and get ready for under coat
> .
> I now have a complete fuselage and will start on panel next i hope.
>
> I am looking at seat design now, and want something that is much more 
> comfortable then the sling seat in my KR2.
>
> I may just add another page or two to my existing web page to include 
> my KR2SS, but have not yet done so. http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
>
> All the best to you all.
>
> Safe flying and may you always have a tail wind.
>
> Phil Matheson
>
> How did you fill the staple marks, Virg
>
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KR> Inverted fuel flow.

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Do not think the plans cover Inverted flight ! Do not also forget 
the OIL flow, Virg


 On 9/20/2013 7:24 PM, Adam Tippin wrote:
> I searched inverted fuel flow in the archives. Flying upsidedown, I need
> some ideas on how not to starve the carb while inverted. If this was
> mentioned in the plans I may have missed it.
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KR> wing length

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 The wing skins available add about 20" ??? to the wing span
 Check them out and see how it is done, Virg


 On 9/20/2013 10:42 AM, Pat and Robin Russo wrote:
> Virg
> The spars are done but not the foam work. Wing skins? Are you 
> referring to the store bought variety? Can I simply add spar extenders 
> and skin the whole as one? I am looking to add 18" to 22".
>
> -Original Message- From: Virgil N.Salisbury
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:17 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> wing length
>
>
> Would not recommend any longer except with the wing skins, Virg
>

KR> wing length

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Would not recommend any longer except with the wing skins, Virg


 On 9/20/2013 9:10 AM, Pat and Robin Russo wrote:
>
>
> I would like to increase wing length but standard KR spars are already 
> done. How much can I dare add to the wing tips? Anyone out there moved 
> in that direction?
>
> Pat  http://www.flickr.com/photos/100112644 at N03/
>
>
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KR> Fwd: Part 91 Ramp Check Just say NO

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 fantastique. You are always within your rights to protect your 
rights, Virg


 On 9/8/2013 1:43 PM, Scott Stanton wrote:
> You can find it online here:
> https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=forums&srcid=MTM3NDkxMTYxNjA0NTM2Mzg4MzkBMTAwMTQ0MzA2NDYwMDk5NTE5ODEBcGtiTHhYVEVHbUVKATQBAXYy
>  
>
>
> I haven't read the whole thing, so I'm not saying this is the right 
> thing to do or not, I'm just passing along the link. :)
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 9/8/2013 5:50 AM, Dan Heath wrote:
>> OK, where it the link?
>>
>> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
>> See you Oct. 4 and 5, 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN
>> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>>> A great in the Sept. 2013 AZ Pilots Assn. newsletter... Every pilot
>>> should know this info.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Could you use the spring off of an old office chair ? Virg


 On 8/26/2013 6:04 AM, Phillip Matheson wrote:
> HI guys.
>
> What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring 
> for my KR2ss 0200.
> I will need a engine mount seen as well.
>
> Phil Matheson
> Australia
>
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KR> One less KR - N774A

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 NOW you know what abuse the KR can take.
 And what it takes to break a spar, Virg


 On 8/4/2013 1:42 PM, Brad Ankerstar wrote:
> Some of you know that the KR I started in 1974, resurrected on 2005, and
> expected to fly to Mt Vernon this year, was destroyed on its first
> "official" test .  I have several pictures and some comments on the
> integrity of the design, at http://www.krnet.org/krs/bankerstar/.
>
>   
>
> I expect to attend the gathering again this year, by car.  I need at least
> one more to wean myself from the KR dream.  I expect to have several metal
> parts for sale when I get there.  All of them are visible in at least one of
> the pictures.  The engine, and most instruments, will go to a new project,
> probably an Aerosport Quail.
>
>   
>
> Brad Ankerstar
>
> Cell:  513 313-9265
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KR> Gathering, Dinner

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Larry, ask Chris @ MVN to hold onto the box from me until the
 KR Dinner, Virg


 On 8/4/2013 9:17 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
>
> Netters,
>
> Pictures of this years hats and shirts are now at www.krgathering.org  
> . Scroll down to "Pro Shop" and follow instructions.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 140

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 7/28/2013 4:46 PM, Tim Hoversten wrote:
> Aircraft certificates required on-board Experimental aircraft also include 
> Operating Limitations. (The document given to you with the airworthiness 
> certificate, and signed by the DAR /FAA inspector, not your Operations Manual 
> that you developed during testing)
>
> So the memory trick is:
>
> A - Airworthiness Certificate (Must be visible)
>
> R - Registration Certificate
 RADIO
>
> O - Operating Limitations
>
> W - Weight and Balance information
>
>   
> Tim Hoversten
> Oshkosh, WI
> ARROW, Virg
>   
> "Whatever you think is impossible, is really impossible for you. And whatever 
> you think is possible, it really is possible for you, just don't be afraid to 
> try it. Make a plan, consult with your friends and with the experts, with 
> everyone who can help you - and follow your dreams. Life is easy. So keep 
> smiling and be happy!" - Jan Hercek, Slovenian paraplegic pilot
>
>
>
> 
>   From: "krnet-request at list.krnet.org" 
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:00 AM
> Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 140
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>
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> 1.  certificates (joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com)
> 2. Re:  Video Kr2-egb (Dan Heath)
> 3. Re:  certificates (Allen G. Wiesner)
> 4.  A couple of building tips (Dan Heath)
> 5.  Oshkosh (Rob Schmitt)
> 6.  SkyView Installation (Dan Heath)
> 7. Re:  Oshkosh (Mike Sylvester)
> Hi Guys,I received my new aircraft registration certificate the other day and 
> promtly put in the plane. This got me thinking that we are now at the end of 
> the cycle to re- register all aircraft in the country. This fact along with a 
> recent AOPA email handout type of document titled "What to do if stopped by 
> law enforcement" Got me to wondering if ramp checks are about to be increased 
> dramaticly to ensure compliance. Maybe I have become part of the untrusting 
> public but better safe than sorry. Make sure your documents are up to date 
> and in the plane or your posession. As I understand it they are Pilot cert., 
> photo I.D., Medical cert., aircraft registration, log book presented upon 
> written request.Doom sayer,Joe HortonCoopersburg, Pa.
> 
> New Diet Pill Sales Soar
> New 'fast acting' diet pill flying off shelves amidst consumer frenzy
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51f44563d611d45633cc1st03duc
> Well said Mark.  I am sure you have echoed the sentiments of all the
> KRNetters who attend the Gatherings.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you Oct. 4 and 5, 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Eduardo, un avi?n muy hermoso en verdad. Usted nos bien y nos ha
> representado s?lo deseo que podr?a asistir a la reuni?n KR aqu? en los
> Estados. Seguro volar a mi amigo. Mark Jones
>
>
>
> From: " joe kr2s builder" < joe .kr2s.builder@ juno .com>
> To: krnet @list. krnet .org
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:09:07 PM
> Subject: KR> certificates
>
>> Hi Guys,I received my new aircraft registration certificate the other day 
>> and promtly put in the plane. This got me thinking that we are now at the 
>> end of the cycle to re- register all aircraft in the country. This fact 
>> along with a recent AOPA email handout type of document titled "What to do 
>> if stopped by law enforcement" Got me to wondering if ramp checks are about 
>> to be increased dramaticly to ensure compliance. Maybe I have become part of 
>> the untrusting public but better safe than sorry. Make sure your documents 
>> are up to date and in the plane or your posession . As I understand it they 
>> are Pilot cert., photo I.D., Medical cert., aircraft registration, log book 
>> presented upon written request.Doom sayer ,Joe HortonCoopersburg , Pa.<
> Required to be visible in the plane: Airworthiness Certificate , Registration 
> Certificate, (plus state R/C if one exists in your state) Weight & Balance & 
> Equipment List (keep the logbooks at home). On you, ID, Pilot Cert., Medical, 
> or Drivers License (if operating as a Sport Pilot), and if it's a Flying Club 
> A/C, it would be a good idea to have some sort of Club ID. (Pres., Flight 
> Ops. Officer, default A&P (we have an official one, but he still works for a 
> living + finishing up a Kitfox with a Rotec ) chie

KR> Address

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

Need the address for the Gathering. Is it at MVN?
Is Chris the manager ?
Need to send Package, Virg