KR> BMW engines

[rdrace...@aol.com]

If I am not mistaken, the BMW logo design is meant to look like a spinning  
airplane propeller viewed from the front of the airplane, symbolizing BMW's 
rich  history of manufacturing airplane engines as seen in this add from 
1917 _http://www.usautoparts.net/bmw/pics/7070_1024.jpg_ 
(http://www.usautoparts.net/bmw/pics/7070_1024.jpg) .

Todd  Thelin
"The older I get...The faster I was!"
rdrace...@aol.com

912-596-8057

KR> BMW engines

[Bucci]

Dear friends, in Europe there are several homebuilder using BMW engines.
You can see informations on www.spang-air.de
Best regards
Franco Bucci
ITALY
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Ferris <mijni...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: KR> BMW engines
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
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Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a 
motorcycle you want to stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would 
maybe kill you.
Jim



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Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 9:51:28 PM
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines


Well, with only about 4 square inches of wing area (i.e. my ears)The best I 
could get in the aera of lift, left me with not even a bounce on impact, 
only a splat.,My motocross days have left me with the desire for larger 
wings,and a large longing for pain killers. joseph

> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:39:07 -0600
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> From: fles...@verizon.net
> Subject: KR> BMW engines
>
> At 12:18 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote:
> >Kris, I have flown a couple of BMW's, short flights
> >,hard landings. I don't recommend it. Joseph
> > >+++
>
>
> I'm curious. What would the engine type have do with "hard
> landings". It seems to me that would be more a factor of pilot skill. :-)
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:00:56 +1100
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James Ferris wrote:
> Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes
Heretic!

Actually, I love bikes too, but I love planes more :)
Cheers.
Pete.



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If your bike is more fun than your plane, you obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> BMW engines

[bearlk...@aol.com]

 Way cool. See, you never know what will come up if your "off topic" returns to 
Airplane building.
Bob Polgreen





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Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 10:17 pm
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines










Apparently no one has yet flown a KR-2with a BMW engine? Here is a link
to a company that apparently sells a unit which looks like it would work
on a KR-2.  When I originally researched this topic I remember the water
cooled BMW was extremely fuel efficient.  This one is apparently an
R1100 of approx 100hp: http://www.takeoff-ul.de/  
Look here for a US company converting R80; R90; and R100:
http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/bmwconversion.htm 
Look at several CH601's with various BMW's here:
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo4a-engines.html

Marlyn Taylor
Turbo revmaster KR-2 Builder

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Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines


The R1100 engine has 98 horsepower at 7500 rpm.  This is a little high
for a propeller, and the load of a motorcycle might be different for a
propeller.  I just wanted to see if anyone has heard how the BMW
R-engine does on an airplane.  I have been told through some research
that the Rotax gearbox will go on a BMW engine.  The question is how
does this go on a KR and will it be a reliable setup for a KR?

Kris Leirfallom CFI
KR builder



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 I have imagined my Opposed cylinders in a Kr  many times, and I always come 
back to the weight of all that aluminum used to make the gearbox and the 
crankcase a 
matching unit. I have not resolved this, but perhaps a teardown and some re 
machining would help. My older engine runs at rpms that would be more prop 
friendly...
Bob Polgreen





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Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 7:30 pm
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The R1100 engine has 98 horsepower at 7500 rpm.  This is a little high for a
propeller, and the load of a motorcycle might be different for a propeller.  I
just wanted to see if anyone has heard how the BMW R-engine does on an airplane.
 I have been told through some research that the Rotax gearbox will go on a BMW
engine.  The question is how does this go on a KR and will it be a reliable
setup for a KR?

Kris Leirfallom CFI
KR builder

Quoting Dan Heath <da...@windstream.net>:

> I hate to spoil all the fun here, but I have not seen one post that had
> anything to do with using a BMW engine in a KR, other than the original
> question.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> 
> 
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[Marlyn Taylor]

Apparently no one has yet flown a KR-2with a BMW engine? Here is a link
to a company that apparently sells a unit which looks like it would work
on a KR-2.  When I originally researched this topic I remember the water
cooled BMW was extremely fuel efficient.  This one is apparently an
R1100 of approx 100hp: http://www.takeoff-ul.de/  
Look here for a US company converting R80; R90; and R100:
http://www.ultralightnews.com/engineinfo/bmwconversion.htm 
Look at several CH601's with various BMW's here:
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo4a-engines.html

Marlyn Taylor
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To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines


The R1100 engine has 98 horsepower at 7500 rpm.  This is a little high
for a propeller, and the load of a motorcycle might be different for a
propeller.  I just wanted to see if anyone has heard how the BMW
R-engine does on an airplane.  I have been told through some research
that the Rotax gearbox will go on a BMW engine.  The question is how
does this go on a KR and will it be a reliable setup for a KR?

Kris Leirfallom CFI
KR builder

KR> BMW engines

[Larry Knox]

Sorry Dan. Knew a guy years ago that flew a BMW in a cassett out of the
Rifle-Glenwood Springs area of Colo. He flew a lot, short distances, but
this is in the REAL Rocky Mnts. He said you had to continually Tweak it to
get best performance and not sure how he done that in fight . Every time I
arrived, in my Champ (no treaking) he was Tweaking but he defiantly liked it
and flew it a lot. Not much help but all I've got. Hope someone has
something more currant. Larry

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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:01 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines

I hate to spoil all the fun here, but I have not seen one post that had
anything to do with using a BMW engine in a KR, other than the original
question.

Thank you for your consideration.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



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The R1100 engine has 98 horsepower at 7500 rpm.  This is a little high for a
propeller, and the load of a motorcycle might be different for a propeller.  I
just wanted to see if anyone has heard how the BMW R-engine does on an airplane.
 I have been told through some research that the Rotax gearbox will go on a BMW
engine.  The question is how does this go on a KR and will it be a reliable
setup for a KR?

Kris Leirfallom CFI
KR builder

Quoting Dan Heath :

> I hate to spoil all the fun here, but I have not seen one post that had
> anything to do with using a BMW engine in a KR, other than the original
> question.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
> See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> 
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[rdrace...@aol.com]

Just chiming in on the motorcycle engine idea.  I was in an army unit a few 
years back that flew UAV's (unmanned aerial vehicles) that were powered by Moto 
Guzzi engines.  These are transverse v-twins rated at about 75 horsepower each, 
and were set up in a twin engine centerline thrust configuration (push me - 
pull you.)  I'm not sure what the max gross weight on them was, but it was 
rumoured that it in a rescue situation they were capable of carrying two 
passengers, one strapped onto each wing. I'm not sure I would want to put my 
trust in a pilot who was on the ground, possibly hundreds of miles away, but if 
they could carry that kind of weight in addition to the fuel and onboard 
equipment they already had it must have put them well over 1000 lbs.  
Seems like it would certainly be possible to use such a motorcycle engine in at 
least a KR1 if not a KR2.

Todd Thelin

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Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines



I hate to spoil all the fun here, but I have not seen one post that had
nything to do with using a BMW engine in a KR, other than the original
uestion.
Thank you for your consideration.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
ee you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
here is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
as begun.
aniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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[Dan Heath]

I hate to spoil all the fun here, but I have not seen one post that had
anything to do with using a BMW engine in a KR, other than the original
question.

Thank you for your consideration.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> BMW engines

[tinya...@aol.com]

All time aviation great (at least to me) Leo Loudenslager who  was the 
national aerobatic champion 7 times died as a result of a  motorcycle.  I love 
bikes, but you had better give them a lot of  respect.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


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bearlk...@aol.com writes:


My  first CFI was a gifted pilot and a crotch rocket fiend. He was 23 years 
old  when he missed a curve and hit a telephone pole. His ashes were 
scattered from  an airplane. In a plane death is always present, but often a 
mile 
or more  away. On a motorcycle, death is always about 3 feet away. In a 
plane, you are  your own worst enemy. On a motorcycle, any mistake by a 
stranger 
can kill you.  ( I was once boxed in by four cars at 80mph on a freeway- 
scary) My bike, a  vintage  BMW sits pickled and unused, while I romance my 
plane on a  regular basis. No real comparison.
Bob Polgreen
Nowthen  MN





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Sent:  Wed, Oct 28, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: RE: KR> BMW  engines










Halleluiah and A--AMEN  Motorcycles are like mules they can hurt you when 
you
are doing everything  right and enjoy it. An airplane won't hurt you unless
you make it. It's OK  to like motorcycles but you have to love airplanes. 
I'm
gaining on the KR2.  Larry

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Sent:  Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re:  KR> BMW engines

If your bike is more fun than your plane, you  obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos,  NM

-- Original Message --

Motorcycles are more  fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a
motorcycle you want to  stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would
maybe kill  you.
Jim





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[bearlk...@aol.com]

 My first CFI was a gifted pilot and a crotch rocket fiend. He was 23 years old 
when he missed a curve and hit a telephone pole. His ashes were scattered from 
an airplane. In a plane death is always present, but often a mile or more away. 
On a motorcycle, death is always about 3 feet away. In a plane, you are your 
own worst enemy. On a motorcycle, any mistake by a stranger can kill you. ( I 
was once boxed in by four cars at 80mph on a freeway- scary) My bike, a vintage 
 BMW sits pickled and unused, while I romance my plane on a regular basis. No 
real comparison.
Bob Polgreen
Nowthen MN





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Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines










Halleluiah and A--AMEN Motorcycles are like mules they can hurt you when you
are doing everything right and enjoy it. An airplane won't hurt you unless
you make it. It's OK to like motorcycles but you have to love airplanes. I'm
gaining on the KR2. Larry

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Of Jeff Scott
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> BMW engines

If your bike is more fun than your plane, you obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

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Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a
motorcycle you want to stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would
maybe kill you.
Jim





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[Larry Knox]

Halleluiah and A--AMEN Motorcycles are like mules they can hurt you when you
are doing everything right and enjoy it. An airplane won't hurt you unless
you make it. It's OK to like motorcycles but you have to love airplanes. I'm
gaining on the KR2. Larry

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Of Jeff Scott
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> BMW engines

If your bike is more fun than your plane, you obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

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Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a
motorcycle you want to stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would
maybe kill you.
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If your bike is more fun than your plane, you obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

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KR> BMW engines

[Pete]

James Ferris wrote:
> Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes
Heretic!

Actually, I love bikes too, but I love planes more :)
Cheers.
Pete.

KR> BMW engines

[James Ferris]

Motorcycles are more fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a 
motorcycle you want to stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would 
maybe kill you.
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Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 9:51:28 PM
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines


Well, with only about 4 square inches of wing area (i.e. my ears)The best I 
could get in the aera of lift, left me with not even a bounce on impact, only a 
splat.,My motocross days have left me with the desire for larger wings,and a 
large longing for pain killers. joseph

> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:39:07 -0600
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> From: fles...@verizon.net
> Subject: KR> BMW engines
> 
> At 12:18 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote:
> >Kris, I have flown a couple of BMW's, short flights
> >,hard landings. I don't recommend it. Joseph
> > >+++
> 
> 
> I'm curious. What would the engine type have do with "hard 
> landings". It seems to me that would be more a factor of pilot skill. :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
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[joseph lamberson]

Well, with only about 4 square inches of wing area (i.e. my ears)The best I 
could get in the aera of lift, left me with not even a bounce on impact, only a 
splat.,My motocross days have left me with the desire for larger wings,and a 
large longing for pain killers. joseph

> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:39:07 -0600
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> From: fles...@verizon.net
> Subject: KR> BMW engines
> 
> At 12:18 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote:
> >Kris, I have flown a couple of BMW's, short flights
> >,hard landings. I don't recommend it. Joseph
> > >+++
> 
> 
> I'm curious. What would the engine type have do with "hard 
> landings". It seems to me that would be more a factor of pilot skill. :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
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KR> BMW engines

[Fred Johnson]

I think it was airborne as in motorcycle:)

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV




I'm curious. What would the engine type have do with "hard 
landings".  It seems to me that would be more a factor of pilot skill. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> BMW engines

[Larry Flesner]

At 12:18 PM 10/27/2009, you wrote:
>Kris, I have flown a couple of BMW's, short flights
>,hard landings. I don't recommend it.  Joseph
> >+++


I'm curious. What would the engine type have do with "hard 
landings".  It seems to me that would be more a factor of pilot skill. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Doug Rupert]

Very true until you get the price tag F.O.B. here. If I was in Aus that
would probably be the way I'd go. Course been a while since I've seen the
price but since very seldom do prices drop I'd say it's still beyond my
meager funds.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario

If I was to build a KR2S in I would probably use the 6 cylinder Jabiru 3300
120hp for 81kg.

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Karl]

>Very true until you get the price tag F.O.B. here. If I was in Aus that
>would probably be the way I'd go. Course been a while since I've seen the
>price but since very seldom do prices drop I'd say it's still beyond my
>meager funds.
>Doug Rupert
>Simcoe Ontario
>
>If I was to build a KR2S in I would probably use the 6 cylinder Jabiru 3300
>120hp for 81kg.
>
>regards
>Barry Kruyssen
>Cairns, Australia
>RAA 19-3873




You guys should keep an eye on the exchange rate. The Aust$ is up at thew
moment and that should make imported goods from there cheper (6 cylinder
Jabiru 3300, 120hp for 81kg).

Just a thought.


Karl Pudney
Auckland
New Zealand

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines and now Jabiru engines

[Barry Kruyssen]

Not wanting to be a Jabiru salesman but they have agents in the following 
contries, checkout their WEB site for contact info at http://www.jabiru.net.au

Australia 
Austria 
Beijing 
Belgium 
Brazil 
Canada 
Chile 
China 
Colombia 
Ecuador 
France 
Germany 
Greece 
Indonesia 
Israel 
Italy 
Korea 
Malaysia  
Mexico 
Mongolia 
Morocco 
New Zealand 
Peru 
Poland 
Portugal and Spain 
Russia 
Scandinavia 
Southern Africa 
Taiwan 
Thailand 
Ukraine 
United Kingdom 
United States of America 

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873

k...@bigpond.com
http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm

  - Original Message - 
  You guys should keep an eye on the exchange rate. The Aust$ is up at thew
  moment and that should make imported goods from there cheper (6 cylinder
  Jabiru 3300, 120hp for 81kg).

  Just a thought.


  Karl Pudney
  Auckland
  New Zealand

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines and now Jabiru engines

[Doug Rupert]

Thanks Barry will do. Do you get a cut?
Doug

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:49 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines and now Jabiru engines

Not wanting to be a Jabiru salesman but they have agents in the following
contries, checkout their WEB site for contact info at
http://www.jabiru.net.au

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines and now Jabiru engines

[Barry Kruyssen]

Not cut but Jabiru have been so helpful with fibreglass info, etc and I haven't 
even spent a cent with them.
They are real down to earth people who take the time to listen and help if they 
can, as one person there put it "we view every person who contacts us as 
possibly our next big sale, today, tomorrow or in years to come"  truly service 
orientated.
  - Original Message - 


  Thanks Barry will do. Do you get a cut?
  Doug

  -Original Message-

  Not wanting to be a Jabiru salesman but they have agents in the following
  contries, checkout their WEB site for contact info at
  http://www.jabiru.net.au

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Wolfgang Decker]

Net Heads,

as promised earlier I hereby forward something about the BMW R1100, that is
used in Microlights in Europe. A company in England is offering these
complete with gears and everything. The interesting part is a centrifugal
clutch, that allows the prop to freely spin when the engine is off. The
address is: http://www.microlightsport.co.uk/Catalogue/bmwengine.htm

Also, I stumbled across a German webpage from a school for A Mechanics in
Munich, that has modified a small three cylinder Diesel engine from VW.
Looking at the latest developments coming from VW and Audi, these could be
interesting in the close future. Audi just released a 1.4 liter 3 cylinder
turbo charged and direct injected diesel engine, that develops about 90 HP.
The engine block is aluminum, and to my knowledge the engine weight is way
under 100 kg. The real intersting part is, that the engine develops a torque
of about 215 Nm (about 165 ft.lb.) from 1900 to abot 3000 rpm. This would
make it ideal for a direct driven machine.

I will try to get more information fromt the German school about their work,
anybody who is interested may mail me directly.

Cheers,

Wolfgang

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Wolfgang Decker]

Doug,

as far as I can tell from the one that works in my Passat (1.9 liter TDI) it
is way over 100 kg. Also, the torque is "only" 149 ft.lb., although it
develops that torque at 1,900 rpm already, which would make it perfect for a
direct drive engine. The weight is somewhat comparable to a O-320 or O-360,
so if you think you can get one of those into a KR-2 than go for it. These
engines are somewhat comparable to the aero-diesels that are currently under
development in Europe.

The newer Diesel engines built by VW and Audi have highly improved injection
systems and motor management. They now inject the fuel with up to 2,000 bar,
and have a separate pump for every cylinder. The engine computer also is
improved.

I will keep an eye on the development of these new diesels, and since I will
start my KR-2 this winter I still have a little time to finally commit to an
engine.

Wolfgang

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Doug Rupert
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:48 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines


What does a regular VW diesel weigh? Don't know the specs but they are
plentiful and rebuilding a diesel is a snap.
Doug Rupert




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KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Doug Rupert]

Thank you for the response Wolfgang. With those numbers I'll have to stay
away from the diesel for now. I just saw a clip on the news tonight about
the new Volkswagen with a V12 engine, definitely a radical change in
engineering with that vehicle. Looked like something from the Motor Works,
only on steroids. Like you I have a long way to go before engine mounting
but would like to have some idea of what I have to work with, numbers wise.
Best wishes.
Doug Rupert

KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines

[Barry Kruyssen]

If I was to build a KR2S in I would probably use the 6 cylinder Jabiru 3300 
120hp for 81kg.

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873

k...@bigpond.com
http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: Doug Rupert 
  To: 'KRnet' 
  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 2:01 PM
  Subject: RE: KR> BMW engines adn Diesel Engines


  Thank you for the response Wolfgang. With those numbers I'll have to stay
  away from the diesel for now. I just saw a clip on the news tonight about
  the new Volkswagen with a V12 engine, definitely a radical change in
  engineering with that vehicle. Looked like something from the Motor Works,
  only on steroids. Like you I have a long way to go before engine mounting
  but would like to have some idea of what I have to work with, numbers wise.
  Best wishes.
  Doug Rupert




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