KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-15 Thread Ross Aldrich

Thanks, I'm looking into that.  I believe that the nuts are heat treated 
(hardened) and many nut splitters are not suitable for those types.  Your 
suggestion about cutting them with a dremel tool may have some value.
Thanks,
Ross


> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:34:13 -0700
> From: lah...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
> To: kr...@mylist.net
>
> Ross,
> I think there is a tool you can buy that will split those nuts apart. I seem 
> to remember a circular thing that went around the nuts and then sharp wedges 
> tightened down to cut through the outside then towards the center (or maybe I 
> dreamed that-LOL) or you can maybe figure out how to cut them with a small 
> dremel grinding head without damaging the studs.
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Ross Aldrich 
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:52:51 AM
> Subject: RE: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>
>
> No, I was the buffoon here. I meant to say, "the head stud NUTS" rather the 
> the head studs themselves. I don't know what kind of trouble I would get into 
> if I were to strain or break a stud, but I have a hunch I don't want to find 
> out.
>
> What I've done so far is to break the nuts loose - that is just barely turn 
> them - and then tried to back them off. I could only turn them a few degrees 
> before the torque wrench read 40 lb-ft - the maximum that William suggests.
>
> I had previously soaked the tips of the studs and the nuts in two different 
> kinds of penetrating rust solvent. In addition, I had Q-tipped nitric acid 
> along the annular ring between the stud and nut threads. HNO3 reacts with 
> ("dissolves") rust. So far I still pull 40 lb-ft of torque with no further 
> movement on the "loosened" nuts.
>
> I have heard of a high frequency nut-only electronic heating device, but a) I 
> don't have one, b) I don't know anyone who does, c) most of the nuts are in a 
> location that might preclude the use of such a device anyway. It's amazing in 
> that it heats the bolt to red-hot without heating the stud. Of course, you 
> must work quickly before too much head is transferred from the nut to the 
> stud.
>
> Any suggestions out there would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Ross Aldrich
> 
>> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:10:47 -0700
>> From: lah...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>>
>> Sorry if I mis-spoke, I am talking about the studs that hold the heads to 
>> the block I believe.
>> Larry H.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Larry H.
>> To: KRnet
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:59:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>>
>> William says not to remove them. Do you need to remove them?
>> Larry H.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Ross Aldrich
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM
>> Subject: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>>
>>
>> I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
>> ruining them. Anybody have any experience with this problem? Any suggestions?
>> Ross Aldrich
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KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-13 Thread Larry H.
Ross,
I think there is a tool you can buy that will split those nuts apart. I seem to 
remember a circular thing that went around the nuts and then sharp wedges 
tightened down to cut through the outside then towards the center (or maybe I 
dreamed that-LOL) or you can maybe figure out how to cut them with a small 
dremel grinding head without damaging the studs.
Larry H.





From: Ross Aldrich <rra_...@hotmail.com>
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:52:51 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Corvair Head Studs


No, I was the buffoon here.  I meant to say, "the head stud NUTS" rather the 
the head studs themselves.  I don't know what kind of trouble I would get into 
if I were to strain or break a stud, but I have a hunch I don't want to find 
out.

What I've done so far is to break the nuts loose - that is just barely turn 
them - and then tried to back them off.  I could only turn them a few degrees 
before the torque wrench read 40 lb-ft - the maximum that William suggests.  

I had previously soaked the tips of the studs and the nuts in two different 
kinds of penetrating rust solvent.  In addition, I had Q-tipped nitric acid 
along the annular ring between the stud and nut threads.  HNO3 reacts with 
("dissolves") rust.  So far I still pull 40 lb-ft of torque with no further 
movement on the "loosened" nuts.

I have heard of a high frequency nut-only electronic heating device, but a) I 
don't have one, b) I don't know anyone who does, c) most of the nuts are in a 
location that might preclude the use of such a device anyway.  It's amazing in 
that it heats the bolt to red-hot without heating the stud.  Of course, you 
must work quickly before too much head is transferred from the nut to the stud.

Any suggestions out there would be greatly appreciated.

Ross Aldrich

> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:10:47 -0700
> From: lah...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
> To: kr...@mylist.net
>
> Sorry if I mis-spoke, I am talking about the studs that hold the heads to the 
> block I believe.
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Larry H. 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:59:15 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>
> William says not to remove them. Do you need to remove them?
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> ____________
> From: Ross Aldrich 
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM
> Subject: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>
>
> I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
> ruining them. Anybody have any experience with this problem? Any suggestions?
> Ross Aldrich
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KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-13 Thread Mark Wegmet


Ross Aldrich wrote...

Subject: RE: KR> Corvair Head Studs


No, I was the buffoon here.  I meant to say, "the head stud NUTS" rather the
the head studs themselves.  ...


[Mark] If you are planning on abusing the nuts like that, you may as well
get a "nut breaker" and remove them that way. I don't know what else to call
the tool, but it kind of looks like a heavy duty micrometer with a blade on
the moveable side and a heavy 'anvil' on the other. You simply straddle the
nut with it, tighten until the nut splits, and you're done.

You would want to get new nuts anyway.

Mark W.
N952MW



KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-13 Thread Ross Aldrich

No, I was the buffoon here.  I meant to say, "the head stud NUTS" rather the 
the head studs themselves.  I don't know what kind of trouble I would get into 
if I were to strain or break a stud, but I have a hunch I don't want to find 
out.

What I've done so far is to break the nuts loose - that is just barely turn 
them - and then tried to back them off.  I could only turn them a few degrees 
before the torque wrench read 40 lb-ft - the maximum that William suggests.  

I had previously soaked the tips of the studs and the nuts in two different 
kinds of penetrating rust solvent.  In addition, I had Q-tipped nitric acid 
along the annular ring between the stud and nut threads.  HNO3 reacts with 
("dissolves") rust.  So far I still pull 40 lb-ft of torque with no further 
movement on the "loosened" nuts.

I have heard of a high frequency nut-only electronic heating device, but a) I 
don't have one, b) I don't know anyone who does, c) most of the nuts are in a 
location that might preclude the use of such a device anyway.  It's amazing in 
that it heats the bolt to red-hot without heating the stud.  Of course, you 
must work quickly before too much head is transferred from the nut to the stud.

Any suggestions out there would be greatly appreciated.

Ross Aldrich

> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:10:47 -0700
> From: lah...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
> To: kr...@mylist.net
>
> Sorry if I mis-spoke, I am talking about the studs that hold the heads to the 
> block I believe.
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Larry H. 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:59:15 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>
> William says not to remove them. Do you need to remove them?
> Larry H.
>
>
>
>
> ________
> From: Ross Aldrich 
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM
> Subject: KR> Corvair Head Studs
>
>
> I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
> ruining them. Anybody have any experience with this problem? Any suggestions?
> Ross Aldrich
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KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-12 Thread Larry H.
Sorry if I mis-spoke, I am talking about the studs that hold the heads to the 
block I believe.
Larry H.





From: Larry H. <lah...@yahoo.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:59:15 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Corvair Head Studs

William says not to remove them. Do you need to remove them?
Larry H.





From: Ross Aldrich <rra_...@hotmail.com>
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM
Subject: KR> Corvair Head Studs


I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
ruining them.  Anybody have any experience with this problem?  Any suggestions?
Ross Aldrich
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KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-12 Thread Larry H.
William says not to remove them. Do you need to remove them?
Larry H.





From: Ross Aldrich <rra_...@hotmail.com>
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM
Subject: KR> Corvair Head Studs


I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
ruining them.  Anybody have any experience with this problem?  Any suggestions?
Ross Aldrich
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KR> Corvair Head Studs

2009-09-12 Thread Ross Aldrich

I am having one heck of a time trying to remove Corvair head studs without 
ruining them.  Anybody have any experience with this problem?  Any suggestions?
Ross Aldrich